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Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 57	Posted - 2013.12.26 08:20:00 - [1] - Quote Why oh why, do so many good players and good corps play for Gallente? Is proto stomping random players, mostly noobs in basic gear that exciting? Do you get a thrill from redlining the map and then tripping over each other for kills while camping the one hostile uplink/CRU? I was on a map earlier when 4 red tanks and a red squad had 4 squid players pinned in a bunker building. The rest of the map was red and we were the only four dudes doing ANYTHING for Caldari. And the Frogs were damn near killing each other to get in that building. I want an honest answer. LP is not worth enough to play a boring game, that has no risk, no challenge. I have played on the frog side several times and it is as boring as a dead map on oceanic. Please explain how killing noobs in basic gear, often stuck in the red line, is fun for full proto squads. Is K/D padding that important or are there other reasons?
Martyr Saboteur Amarrtyrs 46	Posted - 2013.12.26 08:23:00 - [2] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Why oh why, do so many good players and good corps play for Gallente? Is proto stomping random players, mostly noobs in basic gear that exciting? Do you get a thrill from redlining the map and then tripping over either each other for kills while camping the one hostile uplink/CRU? I was on a map earlier when 4 red tanks and a red squad had 4 squid players pinned in a bunker building. The rest of the map was red and we were the only four dudes doing ANYTHING for Caldari. And the Frogs were damn near killing each other to get in that building. I want an honest answer. LP is not worth enough to play a boring game, that has no risk, no challenge. I have played on the frog side several times and it is as boring as a dead map on oceanic. Please explain how killing noobs in basic gear, often stuck in the red line, is fun for full proto squads. Is K/D padding that important or are there other reasons? Most of the good players play for Gallente/Minmatar because they know they will win if they do, and they win because most good players play for Minmatar/Gallente. The play because they win, and they win because they play. Its a stupid cycle. ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQTSTALLION... I AM THE STALLION
Necandi Brasil DUST BRASIL S.A Covert Intervention 598	Posted - 2013.12.26 08:27:00 - [3] - Quote Because most of the "good players" don't want a challenge ... I play Amarr and Caldari FW... Tanks 514! Cheap, fast, Indestrucbible and you see tankers telling it's balanced... Just makes you want to quit this BS
Broonfondle Majikthies Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 625	Posted - 2013.12.26 08:30:00 - [4] - Quote Because in most likelihood they got very good maxing out Assault Rifles and can't be bothered to spec into something else "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
fragmentedhackslash FREE AGENTS LP 32	Posted - 2013.12.26 08:41:00 - [5] - Quote Because some of the clones stick to racial conflicts. Matari fighters and their corporations will always fight for Matari... etc etc. If you want to play outside your race, because that is how you play... then setup a q-sync of decent squads, use the Factional channel to gain air support, and arrr play FW like it should be... the fact that this needs to be explained is not surprising. Pain is just weakness leaving your body. Every day is a holiday. Every meal is a feast. I am hungry. Let's go eat!
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 58	Posted - 2013.12.26 09:00:00 - [6] - Quote fragmentedhackslash wrote: Because some of the clones stick to racial conflicts. Matari fighters and their corporations will always fight for Matari... etc etc. If you want to play outside your race, because that is how you play... then setup a q-sync of decent squads, use the Factional channel to gain air support, and arrr play FW like it should be... the fact that this needs to be explained is not surprising. I understand this concept. However, only a portion of players could call themselves loyalists. And lets pretend for a second all the masses playing for the Frogs are loyalists, which is not true. This is still a game. A game we play for fun. One side **** stomping the other side is NOT fun. It is boring, lopsided and simple. Yet all these high skilled players and corps continue playing for the same side when the outcome is already known. I don't understand how that is fun. So there must be another reason other than "long live the federation."
fragmentedhackslash FREE AGENTS LP 32	Posted - 2013.12.26 09:05:00 - [7] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: fragmentedhackslash wrote: Because some of the clones stick to racial conflicts. Matari fighters and their corporations will always fight for Matari... etc etc. If you want to play outside your race, because that is how you play... then setup a q-sync of decent squads, use the Factional channel to gain air support, and arrr play FW like it should be... the fact that this needs to be explained is not surprising. I understand this concept. However, only a portion of players could call themselves loyalists. And lets pretend for a second all the masses playing for the Frogs are loyalists, which is not true. This is still a game. A game we play for fun. One side **** stomping the other side is NOT fun. It is boring, lopsided and simple. Yet all these high skilled players and corps continue playing for the same side when the outcome is already known. I don't understand how that is fun. So there must be another reason other than "long live the federation." LP Gallente proto logistics [nSv] with 885 armour? Pain is just weakness leaving your body. Every day is a holiday. Every meal is a feast.
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1634	Posted - 2013.12.26 09:06:00 - [8] - Quote band wagon to the easy side, i've seen top tier players openly come out and tell me they don't fight for cal or amarr because it is "To hard" Amarr! Try EVE Online Buying Deamon Shotgun
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 906	Posted - 2013.12.26 09:09:00 - [9] - Quote I want to reach level 10, that is all. I wanted to show my "loyalty" to gallente.
Omareth Nasadra Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 219	Posted - 2013.12.26 09:11:00 - [10] - Quote i fought for caldari for the first time tonight, guess what? we won, probably because we didn't have half the team snipin like scrubs Minmatar, In rust we trust!!! Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes

Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 58	Posted - 2013.12.26 09:50:00 - [11] - Quote Omareth Nasadra wrote: i fought for caldari for the first time tonight, guess what? we won, probably because we didn't have half the team snipin like scrubs I admit that is a problem. Caldari is full of scrubs because most of the good players play for the same two sides. Even Amarr has more players than Caldari. But that is the point of this post. There are so many scubs on Caldari because so many good players play for the Gal/min side. A few go Amarr and Caldari gets what left plus a bulk of the random blueberries. And Frag brought up a point of the Gallente logi suit, which is a nice prize for fighting for Gallente. But the Caldari offers decent stuff also. Proto rail rifle, 100% needle, proto swarms. And most importantly, a vast majority of the players I am curious about already have full proto suits and gear. So they don't need most of the LP items. I'm talking top players from Outer.Haven, Sver true blood, Ancient Exiles, Nyan San, Science for Death, Rainbow Effect, Dem Durty Boy's, OSG Planetary, Un holy Legion of Dark Star, and Dark Legion to name a few. And there are more I can't even remember. Top players, top corps, all on the same side. It makes sense why the Caldari side is so awful right now. What dosen't make sense is how these top players on the frog side are not bored out of their minds yet.
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION 0	Posted - 2013.12.26 10:23:00 - [12] - Quote Doesn't the game itself hate Caldari? Since almost every rifle is biased shields, then add flux nades, and the recent nerf. It really just sucks to play in a Caldari suit.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 720	Posted - 2013.12.26 10:28:00 - [13] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Why oh why, do so many good players and good corps play for Gallente? Is proto stomping random players, mostly noobs in basic gear that exciting? Do you get a thrill from redlining the map and then tripping over each other for kills while camping the one hostile uplink/CRU? I was on a map earlier when 4 red tanks and a red squad had 4 squid players pinned in a bunker building. The rest of the map was red and we were the only four dudes doing ANYTHING for Caldari. And the Frogs were damn near killing each other to get in that building. I want an honest answer. LP is not worth enough to play a boring game, that has no risk, no challenge. I have played on the frog side several times and it is as boring as a dead map on oceanic. Please explain how killing noobs in basic gear, often stuck in the red line, is fun for full proto squads. Is K/D padding that important or are there other reasons? Fail faceplalm I was reading the CPU instead of the armor. {:)}{3GÇó>
Lazy Scumbag Intara Direct Action Caldari State 86	Posted - 2013.12.26 10:29:00 - [14] - Quote Short answer is lack of balance in the gear you can purchase with LP. This game has always had 'superior' fits, and right now freeing up high slots for damage mods is better than shield regen... because the TTK renders shield and armor mods obsolete.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 720	Posted - 2013.12.26 10:29:00 - [15] - Quote I can't edit my OP for some reason. you can delete this thread now moderator. {:)}{3GÇó>
Piraten Hovnoret No Tax Scrubs 147	Posted - 2013.12.26 10:32:00 - [16] - Quote I play gallante cuz I am gallante at hart And most of the stuff in the gallante Lp store is stuff I use. Proto logi/proto scout/armor rep/armor/scaners etc etc So 4 me it's cost effective to run gallante. Now even more sence I just made lvl 7 It's like 4-5 proto suits every game When I hit lvl 10 it will be AWSOME 1000LP every game plus 250 from the booster Again it's extremely cost effective if you are gallante as me.
Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 233	Posted - 2013.12.26 10:39:00 - [17] - Quote When i fight for gallente, its because i have orbital support in orbit I sit on ground spawn calling in strikes for people so an eve buddy gets his WP, nothing more >:3 Tech De Ra // Electronic Sports League Games Co-ordinator
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 875	Posted - 2013.12.26 11:02:00 - [18] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Why oh why, do so many good players and good corps play for Gallente? Is proto stomping random players, mostly noobs in basic gear that exciting? Do you get a thrill from redlining the map and then tripping over each other for kills while camping the one hostile uplink/CRU? I was on a map earlier when 4 red tanks and a red squad had 4 squid players pinned in a bunker building. The rest of the map was red and we were the only four dudes doing ANYTHING for Caldari. And the Frogs were damn near killing each other to get in that building. I want an honest answer. LP is not worth enough to play a boring game, that has no risk, no challenge. I have played on the frog side several times and it is as boring as a dead map on oceanic. Please explain how killing noobs in basic gear, often stuck in the red line, is fun for full proto squads. Is K/D padding that important or are there other reasons? That distinctly rings of bitching in my book. Nonetheless, most players run FW in order to get the perks that their LP store gives. If someone wants Gallente LP store items more than Caldari, they'll run it. Until the open market hits and people can sell Gal gear to Cal FW players, this trend is not likely to change. As for me, I run mainly Minmatar weapons and suits, so I run Matari FW. Since armor tanking is still better than shield tanking despite the new rifles, many good players still run Gal gear and so run Gal FW. It's as simple as that. Ulthane: Now get off of my property, 'fore more pigeons come looking an' crap on me yard! Overlord's: Ulath Bosse Zero
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 59	Posted - 2013.12.26 11:13:00 - [19] - Quote Baal, you bring up some good points and I can see where your coming from. But I know a lot of the players from the top corps I mentioned in my previous post already have proto suits and gear. They had it long before these changes to FW. The duvolle specialist is probably the only item they would need since you can't get it any where else. And another poster mentioned its more cost effective to get proto suits through the LP store, and I can understand that is true while fighting for the Gallente. That is absolutely not true from the Caldari point of view.
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc 597	Posted - 2013.12.26 11:20:00 - [20] - Quote Because fighting to protect my drugs makes sense. Those money whores would try and burn it all if they got to that part of losec. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^

Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 59	Posted - 2013.12.26 11:26:00 - [21] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: Because fighting to protect my drugs makes sense. Those money whores would try and burn it all if they got to that part of losec. Interesting. You are the first person I have ever heard mention EVE influence as a deciding factor for your faction of choice in Dust, other than true loyalists of course. The Dust influence on Eve is still so small but it's good to know it effects some aspects of players choosing sides. Thank you for your input.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1323	Posted - 2013.12.26 11:28:00 - [22] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: fragmentedhackslash wrote: Because some of the clones stick to racial conflicts. Matari fighters and their corporations will always fight for Matari... etc etc. If you want to play outside your race, because that is how you play... then setup a q-sync of decent squads, use the Factional channel to gain air support, and arrr play FW like it should be... the fact that this needs to be explained is not surprising. I understand this concept. However, only a portion of players could call themselves loyalists. And lets pretend for a second all the masses playing for the Frogs are loyalists, which is not true. This is still a game. A game we play for fun. One side **** stomping the other side is NOT fun. It is boring, lopsided and simple. Yet all these high skilled players and corps continue playing for the same side when the outcome is already known. I don't understand how that is fun. So there must be another reason other than "long live the federation." I play Mini FW warfare because my suit and primary weapon are Mini. I then play for gallante because I dual Tank. Playing for Amarr FW to get armour plates is both against my RP and my standings with Mini. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 526	Posted - 2013.12.26 11:41:00 - [23] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Omareth Nasadra wrote: i fought for caldari for the first time tonight, guess what? we won, probably because we didn't have half the team snipin like scrubs I admit that is a problem. Caldari is full of scrubs because most of the good players play for the same two sides. Even Amarr has more players than Caldari. But that is the point of this post. There are so many scubs on Caldari because so many good players play for the Gal/min side. A few go Amarr and Caldari gets what left plus a bulk of the random blueberries. And Frag brought up a point of the Gallente logi suit, which is a nice prize for fighting for Gallente. But the Caldari offers decent stuff also. Proto rail rifle, 100% needle, proto swarms. And most importantly, a vast majority of the players I am curious about already have full proto suits and gear. So they don't need most of the LP items. I'm talking top players from Outer.Haven, Sver true blood, Ancient Exiles, Nyan San, Science for Death, Rainbow Effect, Dem Durty Boy's, OSG Planetary, Un holy Legion of Dark Star, and Dark Legion to name a few. And there are more I can't even remember. Top players, top corps, all on the same side. It makes sense why the Caldari side is so awful right now. What dosen't make sense is how these top players on the frog side are not bored out of their minds yet. A lot of decent players only play FW for specialist weapons and equipment. They are only interested in those that give them a slight edge in PC. For instance, I have proficiency 5 in ARs, and they still work well enough in CQC, so that's what I use in PC. How am I going to get a specialist Duvolle without playing for Gallente? The other point to remember is that FW is generally a bad FPS experience due to it being laggier than pubs. If I'm not getting Gallente LP I'd sooner be in a pub, where performance is much more acceptable.
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 59	Posted - 2013.12.26 11:54:00 - [24] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: Omareth Nasadra wrote: i fought for caldari for the first time tonight, guess what? we won, probably because we didn't have half the team snipin like scrubs I admit that is a problem. Caldari is full of scrubs because most of the good players play for the same two sides. Even Amarr has more players than Caldari. But that is the point of this post. There are so many scubs on Caldari because so many good players play for the Gal/min side. A few go Amarr and Caldari gets what left plus a bulk of the random blueberries. And Frag brought up a point of the Gallente logi suit, which is a nice prize for fighting for Gallente. But the Caldari offers decent stuff also. Proto rail rifle, 100% needle, proto swarms. And most importantly, a vast majority of the players I am curious about already have full proto suits and gear. So they don't need most of the LP items. I'm talking top players from Outer.Haven, Sver true blood, Ancient Exiles, Nyan San, Science for Death, Rainbow Effect, Dem Durty Boy's, OSG Planetary, Un holy Legion of Dark Star, and Dark Legion to name a few. And there are more I can't even remember. Top players, top corps, all on the same side. It makes sense why the Caldari side is so awful right now. What dosen't make sense is how these top players on the frog side are not bored out of their minds yet. A lot of decent players only play FW for specialist weapons and equipment. They are only interested in those that give them a slight edge in PC. For instance, I have proficiency 5 in ARs, and they still work well enough in CQC, so that's what I use in PC. How am I going to get a specialist Duvolle without playing for Gallente? The other point to remember is that FW is generally a bad FPS experience due to it being laggier than pubs. If I'm not getting Gallente LP I'd sooner be in a pub, where performance is much more acceptable. Thank you Ryme. Would you say most people playing for the Frogs, or FW in general, are doing it to achieve a goal like gain LP? When playing fw they don't care about gud fights or challenges, as long as they get LP?
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 526	Posted - 2013.12.26 12:35:00 - [25] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: Omareth Nasadra wrote: i fought for caldari for the first time tonight, guess what? we won, probably because we didn't have half the team snipin like scrubs I admit that is a problem. Caldari is full of scrubs because most of the good players play for the same two sides. Even Amarr has more players than Caldari. But that is the point of this post. There are so many scubs on Caldari because so many good players play for the Gal/min side. A few go Amarr and Caldari gets what left plus a bulk of the random blueberries. And Frag brought up a point of the Gallente logi suit, which is a nice prize for fighting for Gallente. But the Caldari offers decent stuff also. Proto rail rifle, 100% needle, proto swarms. And most importantly, a vast majority of the players I am curious about already have full proto suits and gear. So they don't need most of the LP items. I'm talking top players from Outer.Haven, Sver true blood, Ancient Exiles, Nyan San, Science for Death, Rainbow Effect, Dem Durty Boy's, OSG Planetary, Un holy Legion of Dark Star, and Dark Legion to name a few. And there are more I can't even remember. Top players, top corps, all on the same side. It makes sense why the Caldari side is so awful right now. What dosen't make sense is how these top players on the frog side are not bored out of their minds yet. A lot of decent players only play FW for specialist weapons and equipment. They are only interested in those that give them a slight edge in PC. For instance, I have proficiency 5 in ARs, and they still work well enough in CQC, so that's what I use in PC. How am I going to get a specialist Duvolle without playing for Gallente? The other point to remember is that FW is generally a bad FPS experience due to it being laggier than pubs. If I'm not getting Gallente LP I'd sooner be in a pub, where performance is much more acceptable. Thank you Ryme. Would you say most people playing for the Frogs, or FW in general, are doing it to achieve a goal like gain LP? When playing fw they don't care about gud fights or challenges, as long as they get LP? Well there are lots of players who are into FW more than PC. You mentioned Science for Death, I think they're a dedicated Gal/Min FW corp. Those kinds of players are in it to further the goals of their chosen faction(s). But yes, there are a lot of FW players who are just in it for the LP. I never played Eve and Dust doesn't really give us any information about the factions, so I can't say I feel any great loyalty to any faction. As it happens my character is Gallente, but that's purely based on the three sentence description it gives you when you start up the game for the first time. I wouldn't fight for them unless it gave me something useful. As for gud fights, FW is the last place I'd go for those due to the lag.
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 60	Posted - 2013.12.26 13:06:00 - [26] - Quote Thank you for your honesty Ryme. I was hoping FW would be a battleground for good fights and competition outside of PC. So far, that has not been the case. Maybe the player market will help balance things out better since the underdog will always have the most valuable LP. Until then I guess I'm done with FW. Fighting for one side is too stupid easy, and fighting for the other side is an uphill battle that is making me go broke.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 946	Posted - 2013.12.26 13:12:00 - [27] - Quote Martyr Saboteur wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: Why oh why, do so many good players and good corps play for Gallente? Is proto stomping random players, mostly noobs in basic gear that exciting? Do you get a thrill from redlining the map and then tripping over either each other for kills while camping the one hostile uplink/CRU? I was on a map earlier when 4 red tanks and a red squad had 4 squid players pinned in a bunker building. The rest of the map was red and we were the only four dudes doing ANYTHING for Caldari. And the Frogs were damn near killing each other to get in that building. I want an honest answer. LP is not worth enough to play a boring game, that has no risk, no challenge. I have played on the frog side several times and it is as boring as a dead map on oceanic. Please explain how killing noobs in basic gear, often stuck in the red line, is fun for full proto squads. Is K/D padding that important or are there other reasons? Most of the good players play for Gallente/Minmatar because they know they will win if they do, and they win because most good players play for Minmatar/Gallente. The play because they win, and they win because they play. Its a stupid cycle. Lol, the word "good" here means cheap scrub spam/camp tactics. Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn! BURN DUST 2014
rretri bution 21	Posted - 2013.12.26 15:08:00 - [28] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: fragmentedhackslash wrote: Because some of the clones stick to racial conflicts. Matari fighters and their corporations will always fight for Matari... etc etc. If you want to play outside your race, because that is how you play... then setup a q-sync of decent squads, use the Factional channel to gain air support, and arrr play FW like it should be... the fact that this needs to be explained is not surprising. I understand this concept. However, only a portion of players could call themselves loyalists. And lets pretend for a second all the masses playing for the Frogs are loyalists, which is not true. This is still a game. A game we play for fun. One side **** stomping the other side is NOT fun. It is boring, lopsided and simple. Yet all these high skilled players and corps continue playing for the same side when the outcome is already known. I don't understand how that is fun. So there must be another reason other than "long live the federation." most of this crowd don' t play for fun, they have forgotten that this is just a game, they only care about padding their KDR and EZ mode gameplay, they play competitvely but they have also lost touch with what competing is and chose the side that offers them easy garunteed wins, every EZ mode duvolle weilding proto logi scrub has flocked to the Gallente faction, and they are ruining the game for everyone making it more boring than it already was
Orion Vahid DUST University Ivy League 244	Posted - 2013.12.26 15:16:00 - [29] - Quote Stop blaming Gallente. Maybe organize YOUR own squads and YOUR own EVE pilots? There. Gallente doesn't perform black magic rituals in the war room. For example, I'm a HMG Heavy. Nothing else. What useful thing am I gonna get for playing Amarr or Caldari? HMGs are Minimatar weapons.
rretri bution 21	Posted - 2013.12.26 15:19:00 - [30] - Quote the battle finder has a large role in this, it is easier for the battlefinder to fit single players than squads so all the new solo players who don't even know what FW is get placed on the caldari and amar side because there is more open slots for players, they just enter FW with all the faction checked, on the other hand full squads always join the mimnatar and gallente side so that side fills up first. The end result is that the caldari and Amar side ends up being a bunch of solo noobs who are going against full squads of experienced players. what the caldari's need is unity and patience, they need to wait till they two full squads and then and only then, join a match. What happens most of the time is I get in one squad and we go in and get crushed because our squad is the only one organized and doing anything.

negative49er The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 462	Posted - 2013.12.26 15:25:00 - [31] - Quote The only reason i play minmatar is because i run minmatar stuff, like the mass driver, flaylock, combat rifle, and minmatar scout so i play it because it have stuff that i need Dedicated Shotgun Scout
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1827	Posted - 2013.12.26 15:35:00 - [32] - Quote Because the first year of this game was CaldariShieldTanking514 and F*YouDuctTapeSlaveScrubsBecauseMySIsGold514. My character was born Gallente and put up with the struggle for effective armor for long enough. Now, we're on top of the pile and I'm not letting you assholes ascend to power again. TL,DR; We lost plenty, today is our day mother ******. Alyssa Milano.
pseudosnipre 416	Posted - 2013.12.26 15:36:00 - [33] - Quote Scout suits. That is all. Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 3885	Posted - 2013.12.26 15:42:00 - [34] - Quote Because the AR is he most common weapon in the game and everyone and their mother has the Duvolle. As such it's only natural to want the Duvolle specialist. Also the gallente logi is pretty... Ya kno... So ppl play for that too. Not to mention the best scout is for gallente too GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 3 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
BattleCry1791 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 289	Posted - 2013.12.26 15:56:00 - [35] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Because the first year of this game was CaldariShieldTanking514 and F*YouDuctTapeSlaveScrubsBecauseMySIsGold514. My character was born Gallente and put up with the struggle for effective armor for long enough. Now, we're on top of the pile and I'm not letting you assholes ascend to power again. TL,DR; We lost plenty, today is our day mother ******. I was wondering when someone would bring this up ( I was going to if no one else did). I find it hard to have any sympathy for Caldari and I have always detested Amarr. But as to the reason for the MinGal dominance, I would offer, as it has been offered before that the Duvoulle is the likely reason. While the RR is awesome, it doesn't do "everything" the same way the AR does. It has limitations and I would dare say in PC you don't want to find yourself limited as a result. And looking at it the other way, the CR has an advantage in CQC over the AR...thus, the Min love. Same with the HMG for Heavies. As a Heavy, the gun is more important than the suit, always has been. What does Caldari or Amarri have that the majority of players will want or need?
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 809	Posted - 2013.12.26 16:01:00 - [36] - Quote I play minmatar because I use minmatar stuff. Mass drivers? Check. Combat rifles? Check. Speed suits? Check. HMGs? Check! Kinda sucks that all these "I only play to win, not have a good fight" guys are making my timer between matches so long. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1409	Posted - 2013.12.26 16:08:00 - [37] - Quote I fight for the Amarr and Caldari because I only use their weapons. "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2405	Posted - 2013.12.26 16:35:00 - [38] - Quote Necandi Brasil wrote: Because most of the "good players" don't want a challenge ... I play Amarr and Caldari FW... Like a baws Proud member of the Commndo 6 <3 Commando AK.0
ZiwZih Seraphim Initiative.. 313	Posted - 2013.12.26 16:40:00 - [39] - Quote You as a merc could see it as an opportunity. Make friends, qsync, win. Save LPs, sell once open market hits, profit. When all switch side, you go opposite. Sounds good in theory, but :ccp: -- you never know. ZEN 514
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 2439	Posted - 2013.12.26 16:42:00 - [40] - Quote I am Gallente in Eve. But I've considered fighting for the Amarr just for more of a challenge. I don't wanly to screw up my Gallente standings or I'd fight for Caldari. It doesn't matter really though all the random solo players are killing FW and Dust in general. Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.

Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 3461	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:24:00 - [41] - Quote I and my corporation fight for the glorious republic, as such her ally is also privy to our service. I fight for my race through thick and thin, do not accuse me of otherwise Caldari puppet. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 3 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1079	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:30:00 - [42] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: Because fighting to protect my drugs makes sense. Those money whores would try and burn it all if they got to that part of losec. Damn straight, if they want my drugs they have to buy them from the far corner in the war barge just like everyone else. But seriously, they play for gallente/minmatar for the reduced cost weapons. If I don't like their weapons I'll never play for said faction "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history"
Sgt Kirk Kirk Industries 3856	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:38:00 - [43] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Doesn't the game itself hate Caldari? Since almost every rifle is biased shields, then add flux nades, and the recent nerf. It really just sucks to play in a Caldari suit. you must be new here. Caldari 514 - Never Forget
ReGnYuM Imperfects 1617	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:42:00 - [44] - Quote Grinding dat standing, Hot dawgy! + 1 to Foxfour, adding yet another grind to dust 514 Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset To the Matari, I am the equivalent to the Boogie Man
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 532	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:48:00 - [45] - Quote Sorry, but the last FW bonus caldari won over galante and amarr fought against the minmatar. Its our time, FOR GALANTE AND MINMATAR!!! *Assassination is my thing.*
Sgt Kirk Kirk Industries 3856	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:51:00 - [46] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Sorry, but the last FW bonus caldari won over galante and amarr fought against the minmatar. Its our time, FOR GALANTE AND MINMATAR!!! even before that Gallente were winning and Amarr was losing. better prizes in general. The should create a LP incentive to play for loosing factions that are getting raped. I.E LolDari
Awesome Pantaloons Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 184	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:52:00 - [47] - Quote I run a bit of Gallente and Caldari, but my passion is for Amarr. It's due in part to the lore, mostly because of the cosmetics, but also because there is just a bit of a challenge. I do what I can to ** off Minmatar tankers and redliners. No way am I letting duct tape junkies ** on my front porch. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Divu Aakmin Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 29	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:58:00 - [48] - Quote Everyone ran AR up until a few weeks ago. FW launched and people are farming good weapons for what they are ALREADY skilled into. I also see alot of Gallente suits running around which is one more reason to run FW. Why fight for unproven weapons and inferior proto suits?
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 61	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:59:00 - [49] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Why oh why, do so many good players and good corps play for Gallente? Is proto stomping random players, mostly noobs in basic gear that exciting? Do you get a thrill from redlining the map and then tripping over each other for kills while camping the one hostile uplink/CRU? I was on a map earlier when 4 red tanks and a red squad had 4 squid players pinned in a bunker building. The rest of the map was red and we were the only four dudes doing ANYTHING for Caldari. And the Frogs were damn near killing each other to get in that building. I want an honest answer. LP is not worth enough to play a boring game, that has no risk, no challenge. I have played on the frog side several times and it is as boring as a dead map on oceanic. Please explain how killing noobs in basic gear, often stuck in the red line, is fun for full proto squads. Is K/D padding that important or are there other reasons? We are a Gallente corp have been fighting on that side since fac war came out stomping you scrubs way before 1.7 nothing has changed. No one told you guys to run cheap gear and not squid up thats your problem. There is nothing even in the Gallente lp store that i even want i have all proto toys anyway that i can buy with isk. I have 50,000 LP with nothing to spend it on maybe i will buy a bunch of madrugers and put remotes on them and just crash into your tanks all day. The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
Artificer Ghost Bojo's School of the Trades 842	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:59:00 - [50] - Quote I play G-FW because I'm a Gallente loyalist/purist. I play M-FW because the people I run EVE Support with hang out in Minmatar Space. I play against C-FW because they're a bunch of no-good losers. LOSER. YOU'RE A LOSER. BABY WANT A BOTTLE? A BIG DIRT BOTTLE? I play against A-FW because... I don't know. I DO need the Imperial Proto-Commandos... Hm...YOLO I hate the Caldari. ~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition

Demon Buddah Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 106	Posted - 2013.12.26 18:44:00 - [51] - Quote I play for Gallente/Minmitar because they have the gear I want. That's honestly why I thought everyone did.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2611	Posted - 2013.12.26 18:54:00 - [52] - Quote Remember when everyone flocked to Amarr/Caldari for the rewards during that FW event? Remember when they kept saying "HTFU" and "Get Good"? Payback's a b!tch isn't it? We finally deployed in the MinFW Match! \o/
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 559	Posted - 2013.12.26 18:57:00 - [53] - Quote What you get from the LP store, is more beneficial from Minmatar and Gallente, atleast for me and a couple peers. We have dedicated Caldari and Amarr faction runners in corporation The main reason to be honest is the amount of new players or players for a month or so are joining FW with no preference to whom they fight for. It was supposed to be a middle of the road challenge when you start getting a decent amount of Skill Points, ISK and Skill and knowledge of Maps in DUST. The average Caldari and Amarr FW runners doesn't know the maps... most for instance don't even understand they need to "hack" the objective and merely get there then stand around assuming it will change over. Most won't even invest into their win's where most Minmatar and Gallente are wearing ADV and Prototype. A lot actually have to do with the type of gear the LP store offer aswell. Most of the gear would benefit a new player more then a veteran, as you need a lot less skills to use the items is the main benefit to 80% of the stuff in the LP store(not a reduction in fitting cost). This would make most of the LP store items appeal to a new player as they can get into Prototype gear with a lot less skills. Even the Madrugar Federation edition requires no skills to use. A lot have to do with players that don't know any better because CCP doesn't explain their games to well, and the rest has to do with this being a free to play, and the average player we even get into DUST 514 is... special.. and will keep going back for the loss and blame everyone else. The rest has to do with Aim assist turning this game into (You have "X" health, I have "X" health, I have "X" damage, you have "X" damage... both our aim assists lock on... the person with inferior skills and gear looses.) so new players that work or have Aiming ability are not really a factor unless the vet is reloading.. Meh >.>
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2611	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:02:00 - [54] - Quote Most of the people who currently play for the Gallente/Minmatar were also doing so even when the Amarr & Caldari owned 99% of FW territory. We are what people call LOYALISTS. We have LOYALTY. We aren't going to go fight for our enemy because the vast majority of your players suck. I fight for the Minmatar because I hate the Amarr. Along with that all of the gear I use is either Minmatar or Caldari, so the Amarr offers me nothing, while also managing to go against my ideals and RP. And don't give me that crap about easymode. Almost every match I've ever been in has had coordinated squads of people in PRO gear on the enemy team. Get better. Honest Answer: Because I am a Matari at heart. A loyalist to the Republic and all that he stands for. We finally deployed in the MinFW Match! \o/
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 2963	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:17:00 - [55] - Quote I don't play for anyone because no one is offering the Breach AR. My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior.
Asya Belentine Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 92	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:20:00 - [56] - Quote looks in the mirror Does my asss look fat in this medium frame? ~Somewhere out there is a tree, tirelessly producing oxygen so you can breathe. I think you owe it an apology~
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 491	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:21:00 - [57] - Quote Personally I just want Minny LP. Though earlier it was taking 10 mins or so to even get into a game. I have considered fighting for Caldari to help balance things out (lol yea like I will make the blindest bit of difference) but to be honest if you dont want LP for a certain race then what is the point of fighting for a team that has nothing to offer you? FW is a great idea but it is so lob-sided currently. I say CCP should give every faction a few high end better than complex (Just under officer level) gear that everyone will want so they will move around and fight for everyone. Faction weapons that dont just give fitting bonus, maybe make them just a slight bit LESS powerful than the officer guns. Like it is in eve... you get the idea.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2613	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:23:00 - [58] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Personally I just want Minny LP. Though earlier it was taking 10 mins or so to even get into a game. I have considered fighting for Caldari to help balance things out (lol yea like I will make the blindest bit of difference) but to be honest if you dont want LP for a certain race then what is the point of fighting for a team that has nothing to offer you? FW is a great idea but it is so lob-sided currently. I say CCP should give every faction a few high end better than complex (Just under officer level) gear that everyone will want so they will move around and fight for everyone. Faction weapons that dont just give fitting bonus, maybe make them just a slight bit LESS powerful than the officer guns. Like it is in eve... you get the idea. I do agree with some of this, but we should not be encouraging people to fight for everyone. Loyalty to a faction needs to matter. We finally deployed in the MinFW Match! \o/
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 389	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:34:00 - [59] - Quote If you werent smart enough to realized is most of the stuff alot of those corps and most players use now are in the gallnete/minmatar loyalty market(cheap Proto AR and CR,vechicle stuff,proto suits etc) It isnt about going over to the winning side for easy win,it's about individuals coming together knowig what they want and working together. A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 416	Posted - 2013.12.26 20:04:00 - [60] - Quote fragmentedhackslash wrote: Because some of the clones stick to racial conflicts. Matari fighters and their corporations will always fight for Matari... etc etc. If you want to play outside your race, because that is how you play... then setup a q-sync of decent squads, use the Factional channel to gain air support, and arrr play FW like it should be... the fact that this needs to be explained is not surprising. ^ This I play for Gallente & Minmatar because that's who our alliance supports EVE-side, and even though we are not currently participating in FW in EVE, I choose to continue the trend. I believe our corp's DUST standings should effect the corp/alliance's ability to enlist for faction warfare, as it does with EVE corp standings - strengthening the DUST-EVE link (albeit only slightly) and maybe encouraging more varied RP corps. Of course, FW still needs work and many do not deem it worthwhile to participate in DUST FW. Gÿó +¦ +¦ Gÿó Trained Skills

Namirial Kensai Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 23	Posted - 2013.12.26 20:55:00 - [61] - Quote Necandi Brasil wrote: Because most of the "good players" don't want a challenge ... I play Amarr and Caldari FW... same here, i refuse to play gal/min. but seriously, holy **** "bad" is not even the word i woudl use to describe some of the CALDARI players, over half the matches im in for caldari we lose ebcause no one can even hack a point, not because the enemy team is taking them, but because half our team is hiding in the redline, and the remaining half actually going for points involves half of them SHOOTING the other half if they get to the point first because apparently team killing over hacking rigths is a thing now. like seriously, its worse than when i used to play CoD. And amarr seems to rarely have this problem
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 417	Posted - 2013.12.26 22:51:00 - [62] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: And most importantly, a vast majority of the players I am curious about already have full proto suits and gear. So they don't need most of the LP items. I'm talking top players from Outer.Haven, Sver true blood, Ancient Exiles, Nyan San, Science for Death, Rainbow Effect, Dem Durty Boy's, OSG Planetary, Un holy Legion of Dark Star, and Dark Legion to name a few. Nyain San & Ancient Exiles have been winning matches for Amarr so... yeah. Gÿó +¦ +¦ Gÿó Trained Skills
PADDEHATPIGEN BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 109	Posted - 2013.12.26 23:48:00 - [63] - Quote I'm sure that there a lot of players that do it for the easy winn, but i think that players are also looking at what they can get in the LP stores and what the fastest way to get some LP. The only things worth getting in the LP stores for all the vets are the spec proto weapons that only have fitting cost like an advanced weapon, and all the newbees go for the proto gear they can use at lvl 3. Amar/Caldari. Laser rifle. Scrambler rifle. Scrambler pistol. Sniper rifle. (That can't kill anything and you can get one just like it as salvage in pub matches) Swarm launcher. (That can't kill anything) Rail rifle. Shield based vehicles. They have aces to 6 weapons and 2 of them are USELESS. Gallante/Minmatar. Assault rifle. Plasma cannon. Mass driver. Combat rifle. SMG. HMG. (A weapon only Amar can use so they are kinda forced to fight for there enemy to get the weapon they want/need) Armor based vehicles. I'm sure i forgot a few things but i think you all can see the problem.
Alpha Canine Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.12.26 23:55:00 - [64] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Why oh why, do so many good players and good corps play for Gallente? Is proto stomping random players, mostly noobs in basic gear that exciting? Do you get a thrill from redlining the map and then tripping over each other for kills while camping the one hostile uplink/CRU? I was on a map earlier when 4 red tanks and a red squad had 4 squid players pinned in a bunker building. The rest of the map was red and we were the only four dudes doing ANYTHING for Caldari. And the Frogs were damn near killing each other to get in that building. I want an honest answer. LP is not worth enough to play a boring game, that has no risk, no challenge. I have played on the frog side several times and it is as boring as a dead map on oceanic. Please explain how killing noobs in basic gear, often stuck in the red line, is fun for full proto squads. Is K/D padding that important or are there other reasons? K/D padding is very important to a lot of douchebags out there. D1cklord#2
Alpha Canine Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.12.27 00:02:00 - [65] - Quote Has anyone seen my pig? D1cklord#2
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 291	Posted - 2013.12.27 00:25:00 - [66] - Quote I wouldn't say the good players are playing for gallente/minmatar, just the FotM players. I solo a lot of amarr (have kids so I need to be able to go AFK in a split second and for good amounts of time). Whenever I see 1 squad on the amarr side I know that we are going to put up a good fight and have a decent chance at winning. This means when I know that the amarr side will have 7+ players trying, we are going to do good. The problem is this: Queues for gallente/minmatar are long, for amarr/caldari they are short. This means that all of the newberries that don't know they can deselect certain factions get defaulted to amarr/caldari FW. Basically CCP has institutionalized newberry stomping in FW. They can fix it easily too, I just think they are being lazy. Best counter to Tanks? Tanks Best counter to Infantry? Tanks Best counter to Dropships? Tanks
Piraten Hovnoret No Tax Scrubs 157	Posted - 2013.12.27 11:23:00 - [67] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Personally I just want Minny LP. Though earlier it was taking 10 mins or so to even get into a game. I have considered fighting for Caldari to help balance things out (lol yea like I will make the blindest bit of difference) but to be honest if you dont want LP for a certain race then what is the point of fighting for a team that has nothing to offer you? FW is a great idea but it is so lob-sided currently. I say CCP should give every faction a few high end better than complex (Just under officer level) gear that everyone will want so they will move around and fight for everyone. Faction weapons that dont just give fitting bonus, maybe make them just a slight bit LESS powerful than the officer guns. Like it is in eve... you get the idea. Maybee open upp the oficer weapons abd suits for LP when your standing hits 9-10. ( would say 10 ) Think about it a officer caldari assult suit.., that would get things going. Any way just a base ide that I have.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5086	Posted - 2013.12.27 11:30:00 - [68] - Quote Oh frustrated Caldari, making assumptions. I play Gallente because I'm Gallente. I use the GAR even though it's the worst rifle of the four. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5086	Posted - 2013.12.27 11:32:00 - [69] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Doesn't the game itself hate Caldari? Since almost every rifle is biased shields, then add flux nades, and the recent nerf. It really just sucks to play in a Caldari suit. GAR/SCR - Shields CR/RR - Armor I don't see a bias here? In addition, while flux grenades may "strip your shields" (Oh boohhooo!), a grenade will instantly kill an armor tanker. No regen, no hiding in cover, just dead. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Valmorgan Aubaris Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services 71	Posted - 2013.12.27 11:34:00 - [70] - Quote Maybe the whole "slavery and religion" thing turns them off?... Couldn't imagine why. EVE alliance seeks mercs, join Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services today! Let's gank Scotty.

Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 65	Posted - 2013.12.27 11:46:00 - [71] - Quote Valmorgan Aubaris wrote: Maybe the whole "slavery and religion" thing turns them off?... Couldn't imagine why. Um. That is Amarr not Caldari. Also the stupid Frogs treated the Caldari like second class citizens. They also tried to force us to think like them. That is why we separated from them. But the stupid Frogs didn't like these independent ideas so they massacred the Caldari population on Caldari Prime. In the Squid vs. Frog conflict the Frogs are the evil ones. Not sure how everyone gets that wrong. Everyone believes the gals want peace and freedom buy thats only if it's on their terms. Disagree with their ideas, their motives or try to do your own thing and the damn frogs will burn your whole planet. The Gallente are not good. Get your facts straight.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 292	Posted - 2013.12.27 12:15:00 - [72] - Quote Facists and religious fanatics deserve every bit of the stomping they are geting, LONG LIVE THE FEDERATION & GLORY TO THE REPUBLIC!!
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 65	Posted - 2013.12.27 12:50:00 - [73] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: Facists and religious fanatics deserve every bit of the stomping they are geting, LONG LIVE THE FEDERATION & GLORY TO THE REPUBLIC!! It's obvious you and the majority of frog scum don't know what fascism is. Nor do you realize the scum frogs are the fascists, not the Caldari. Core beliefs of fascism stem from uniformity, unified beliefs, and beliefe that ultra militarism/ warfare, and committing atrocities is for the better good of the nation. Also the Caldari's hyper capitalist society, and corporation controlled government is completely at odds with Facisim's controlled economies and authoritarian leadership structure. The Caldari had different ideas and beliefs from the Frogs. The Caldari wanted to do their own thing and go their own way. The "freedom" loving frogs responded by trying to destroy an entire planet, Caldari Prime, and its entire population. That is known as genocide. The Frogs tried to massacre the Caldari. The Frogs basically said do what we say or we will kill you. Sounds fascist to me.
Valmorgan Aubaris Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services 73	Posted - 2013.12.27 19:56:00 - [74] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Um. That is Amarr not Caldari. Exactly, and he is Amarr wondering why his faction sucks. Quote: Also the stupid Frogs treated the Caldari like second class citizens. They also tried to force us to think like them. That is why we separated from them. But the stupid Frogs didn't like these independent ideas so they massacred the Caldari population on Caldari Prime. [/quote] There is no middle ground, you are either free, or not free. There is nothing independant about slavery and corporatism. Both are collectivist ideas. Freedom is based on the individual, and rights based upon the individual. Get your own facts streight. Quote: In the Squid vs. Frog conflict the Frogs are the evil ones. Not sure how everyone gets that wrong. Everyone believes the gals want peace and freedom buy thats only if it's on their terms. Disagree with their ideas, their motives or try to do your own thing and the damn frogs will burn your whole planet. The terms are: We will be free whether you like it or not. Quote: The Gallente are not good. Get your facts straight. I think after about 10 years a an EVE player, I probably have them as straight as Ill get them. I began as Caldari, untill I learned what they attract. I know what I'm doing. Do you? EVE alliance seeks mercs, join Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services today! Let's gank Scotty.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 156	Posted - 2013.12.27 20:11:00 - [75] - Quote We've been running Gallente before it was FOTM, and I believe I've only run about a half dozen rounds since LPs were introduced -- they were all boring stomps. That said, I'm thinking of switching sides to Caldari -- more of a challenge and I want me some low CPU/PG specialist RRs.
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 792	Posted - 2013.12.27 20:29:00 - [76] - Quote There's no honest answer, because most of it will be bias although there's a few solid facts. All FW had their "loyalists" before the change. Back during the great FW war we had, the Gallente and Minmatar ALWAYS LOST. That's an overstatement but it was pretty much the opposite of what's happening now but maybe a little worse due to the Gallente and Minmatar having crappy rewards. I'll say that the Gal/Min people have been plotting for a comeback for a while. I'd even go out to say that the Gal have been doing it more hardcore than the Min because we usually have dedicated pilots online looking to bomb something. Also there's the communication thing. We like to communicate as well and often I'll walk into a FW chat and we'll talk about Q-Syncing or running a plan. An example would be yesterday when I lead my squad(which was mostly Rainbow Effect and Foxhound) and we either took charge and combined efforts with the team w/o actually communicating. Then there's also the players who dgaf about K/D ratio and will try their hardest to win, like me, but lately we've been catching a lot of tag-alongs who only want the spoils and so you're more likely to find a game where players will only go so far...Which leads me to my next point... From what I usually see, Caldari players are either afraid or jaded with battle. Seriously. Kick them out of the battlefield or a major center point and they will stop fighting back. I'd also like to emphasize that a good percentage of us don't fight because it's an easy win. A lot of us want hard battles but the other team fails to deliver. Honestly, I would love to fight against another team that has 3 full squads(of course with our team having the same) so that we can have really competitive battles. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
echo47 Minmatar Republic 138	Posted - 2013.12.27 20:44:00 - [77] - Quote Fact, dust players want it as easy as possible minmal risk with max reward. I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
Everything Dies Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 381	Posted - 2013.12.27 20:53:00 - [78] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Why oh why, do so many good players and good corps play for Gallente? Is proto stomping random players, mostly noobs in basic gear that exciting? Do you get a thrill from redlining the map and then tripping over each other for kills while camping the one hostile uplink/CRU? I was on a map earlier when 4 red tanks and a red squad had 4 squid players pinned in a bunker building. The rest of the map was red and we were the only four dudes doing ANYTHING for Caldari. And the Frogs were damn near killing each other to get in that building. I want an honest answer. LP is not worth enough to play a boring game, that has no risk, no challenge. I have played on the frog side several times and it is as boring as a dead map on oceanic. Please explain how killing noobs in basic gear, often stuck in the red line, is fun for full proto squads. Is K/D padding that important or are there other reasons? It warms my heart to read of the struggles of the poor Caldari and Amarr... ... ... but only because of how badly we were beat down when CCP was giving away faction rewards a month or two ago. I guess everyone wanted the scrambler rifles and whatnot, because you were seeing nothing but good players and corps sync up on the Amarr/Caldari side and redline us damn near every battle. But yes, I've certainly noticed a lack of corps/squads in FW on the Amarr/Caldari side of things. A shame, really, as I've always preferred to play FW due to the likelihood of having more evenly-matched battles than skirmish public matches. Life is killing me.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1155	Posted - 2013.12.28 01:30:00 - [79] - Quote Our alliance was in Gallente fac war long before uprising, so we've kept our loyalty. When Q syncing we always chose Gallente and now that Fac War draws more people we just happen to be on the most OP side. If Caldari suits were as popular as Gallente it would be a bit more balanced, but GK0 Logis are the thing to have I guess. Caldari get plenty of EVE support, but half the time no one drops it. Tarn chose peace. Tallen chose war. Where is my Gallente sidearm? SoonGäó514
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 293	Posted - 2013.12.28 01:46:00 - [80] - Quote If you are a rich gallentian, the world is your oyster. You are above the law, you answer to no one, and you can have all the pleasures/delights/whatever you want. If you are a poor gallentian, you life is literally hell. You have no food, no house, no future. You and your offspring will forever be poor, and you will only know menial labor that barely pays enough to keep you alive until you die. The gallente spout freedom and rights, but have the majority of the poor and destitute in new eden and could care less about them. While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.



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