DUST Search - not bittching, just want an honest answer

Ryme Intrinseca wrote:

Izlare Lenix wrote:

Omareth Nasadra wrote:

i fought for caldari for the first time tonight, guess what? we won, probably because we didn't have half the team snipin like scrubs Pirate

I admit that is a problem. Caldari is full of scrubs because most of the good players play for the same two sides. Even Amarr has more players than Caldari.

But that is the point of this post. There are so many scubs on Caldari because so many good players play for the Gal/min side. A few go Amarr and Caldari gets what left plus a bulk of the random blueberries.

And Frag brought up a point of the Gallente logi suit, which is a nice prize for fighting for Gallente. But the Caldari offers decent stuff also. Proto rail rifle, 100% needle, proto swarms.

And most importantly, a vast majority of the players I am curious about already have full proto suits and gear. So they don't need most of the LP items. I'm talking top players from Outer.Haven, Sver true blood, Ancient Exiles, Nyan San, Science for Death, Rainbow Effect, Dem Durty Boy's, OSG Planetary, Un holy Legion of Dark Star, and Dark Legion to name a few.

And there are more I can't even remember. Top players, top corps, all on the same side. It makes sense why the Caldari side is so awful right now.

What dosen't make sense is how these top players on the frog side are not bored out of their minds yet.

A lot of decent players only play FW for specialist weapons and equipment. They are only interested in those that give them a slight edge in PC.

For instance, I have proficiency 5 in ARs, and they still work well enough in CQC, so that's what I use in PC. How am I going to get a specialist Duvolle without playing for Gallente?

The other point to remember is that FW is generally a bad FPS experience due to it being laggier than pubs. If I'm not getting Gallente LP I'd sooner be in a pub, where performance is much more acceptable.


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Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 57	Posted - 2013.12.26 08:20:00 - [1] - Quote Why oh why, do so many good players and good corps play for Gallente? Is proto stomping random players, mostly noobs in basic gear that exciting? Do you get a thrill from redlining the map and then tripping over each other for kills while camping the one hostile uplink/CRU? I was on a map earlier when 4 red tanks and a red squad had 4 squid players pinned in a bunker building. The rest of the map was red and we were the only four dudes doing ANYTHING for Caldari. And the Frogs were damn near killing each other to get in that building. I want an honest answer. LP is not worth enough to play a boring game, that has no risk, no challenge. I have played on the frog side several times and it is as boring as a dead map on oceanic. Please explain how killing noobs in basic gear, often stuck in the red line, is fun for full proto squads. Is K/D padding that important or are there other reasons?
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 58	Posted - 2013.12.26 09:00:00 - [2] - Quote fragmentedhackslash wrote: Because some of the clones stick to racial conflicts. Matari fighters and their corporations will always fight for Matari... etc etc. If you want to play outside your race, because that is how you play... then setup a q-sync of decent squads, use the Factional channel to gain air support, and arrr play FW like it should be... the fact that this needs to be explained is not surprising. I understand this concept. However, only a portion of players could call themselves loyalists. And lets pretend for a second all the masses playing for the Frogs are loyalists, which is not true. This is still a game. A game we play for fun. One side **** stomping the other side is NOT fun. It is boring, lopsided and simple. Yet all these high skilled players and corps continue playing for the same side when the outcome is already known. I don't understand how that is fun. So there must be another reason other than "long live the federation."
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 58	Posted - 2013.12.26 09:50:00 - [3] - Quote Omareth Nasadra wrote: i fought for caldari for the first time tonight, guess what? we won, probably because we didn't have half the team snipin like scrubs I admit that is a problem. Caldari is full of scrubs because most of the good players play for the same two sides. Even Amarr has more players than Caldari. But that is the point of this post. There are so many scubs on Caldari because so many good players play for the Gal/min side. A few go Amarr and Caldari gets what left plus a bulk of the random blueberries. And Frag brought up a point of the Gallente logi suit, which is a nice prize for fighting for Gallente. But the Caldari offers decent stuff also. Proto rail rifle, 100% needle, proto swarms. And most importantly, a vast majority of the players I am curious about already have full proto suits and gear. So they don't need most of the LP items. I'm talking top players from Outer.Haven, Sver true blood, Ancient Exiles, Nyan San, Science for Death, Rainbow Effect, Dem Durty Boy's, OSG Planetary, Un holy Legion of Dark Star, and Dark Legion to name a few. And there are more I can't even remember. Top players, top corps, all on the same side. It makes sense why the Caldari side is so awful right now. What dosen't make sense is how these top players on the frog side are not bored out of their minds yet.
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 59	Posted - 2013.12.26 11:13:00 - [4] - Quote Baal, you bring up some good points and I can see where your coming from. But I know a lot of the players from the top corps I mentioned in my previous post already have proto suits and gear. They had it long before these changes to FW. The duvolle specialist is probably the only item they would need since you can't get it any where else. And another poster mentioned its more cost effective to get proto suits through the LP store, and I can understand that is true while fighting for the Gallente. That is absolutely not true from the Caldari point of view.
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 59	Posted - 2013.12.26 11:26:00 - [5] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: Because fighting to protect my drugs makes sense. Those money whores would try and burn it all if they got to that part of losec. Interesting. You are the first person I have ever heard mention EVE influence as a deciding factor for your faction of choice in Dust, other than true loyalists of course. The Dust influence on Eve is still so small but it's good to know it effects some aspects of players choosing sides. Thank you for your input.
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 59	Posted - 2013.12.26 11:54:00 - [6] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: Omareth Nasadra wrote: i fought for caldari for the first time tonight, guess what? we won, probably because we didn't have half the team snipin like scrubs I admit that is a problem. Caldari is full of scrubs because most of the good players play for the same two sides. Even Amarr has more players than Caldari. But that is the point of this post. There are so many scubs on Caldari because so many good players play for the Gal/min side. A few go Amarr and Caldari gets what left plus a bulk of the random blueberries. And Frag brought up a point of the Gallente logi suit, which is a nice prize for fighting for Gallente. But the Caldari offers decent stuff also. Proto rail rifle, 100% needle, proto swarms. And most importantly, a vast majority of the players I am curious about already have full proto suits and gear. So they don't need most of the LP items. I'm talking top players from Outer.Haven, Sver true blood, Ancient Exiles, Nyan San, Science for Death, Rainbow Effect, Dem Durty Boy's, OSG Planetary, Un holy Legion of Dark Star, and Dark Legion to name a few. And there are more I can't even remember. Top players, top corps, all on the same side. It makes sense why the Caldari side is so awful right now. What dosen't make sense is how these top players on the frog side are not bored out of their minds yet. A lot of decent players only play FW for specialist weapons and equipment. They are only interested in those that give them a slight edge in PC. For instance, I have proficiency 5 in ARs, and they still work well enough in CQC, so that's what I use in PC. How am I going to get a specialist Duvolle without playing for Gallente? The other point to remember is that FW is generally a bad FPS experience due to it being laggier than pubs. If I'm not getting Gallente LP I'd sooner be in a pub, where performance is much more acceptable. Thank you Ryme. Would you say most people playing for the Frogs, or FW in general, are doing it to achieve a goal like gain LP? When playing fw they don't care about gud fights or challenges, as long as they get LP?
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 60	Posted - 2013.12.26 13:06:00 - [7] - Quote Thank you for your honesty Ryme. I was hoping FW would be a battleground for good fights and competition outside of PC. So far, that has not been the case. Maybe the player market will help balance things out better since the underdog will always have the most valuable LP. Until then I guess I'm done with FW. Fighting for one side is too stupid easy, and fighting for the other side is an uphill battle that is making me go broke.
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 65	Posted - 2013.12.27 11:46:00 - [8] - Quote Valmorgan Aubaris wrote: Maybe the whole "slavery and religion" thing turns them off?... Couldn't imagine why. Um. That is Amarr not Caldari. Also the stupid Frogs treated the Caldari like second class citizens. They also tried to force us to think like them. That is why we separated from them. But the stupid Frogs didn't like these independent ideas so they massacred the Caldari population on Caldari Prime. In the Squid vs. Frog conflict the Frogs are the evil ones. Not sure how everyone gets that wrong. Everyone believes the gals want peace and freedom buy thats only if it's on their terms. Disagree with their ideas, their motives or try to do your own thing and the damn frogs will burn your whole planet. The Gallente are not good. Get your facts straight.
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 65	Posted - 2013.12.27 12:50:00 - [9] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: Facists and religious fanatics deserve every bit of the stomping they are geting, LONG LIVE THE FEDERATION & GLORY TO THE REPUBLIC!! It's obvious you and the majority of frog scum don't know what fascism is. Nor do you realize the scum frogs are the fascists, not the Caldari. Core beliefs of fascism stem from uniformity, unified beliefs, and beliefe that ultra militarism/ warfare, and committing atrocities is for the better good of the nation. Also the Caldari's hyper capitalist society, and corporation controlled government is completely at odds with Facisim's controlled economies and authoritarian leadership structure. The Caldari had different ideas and beliefs from the Frogs. The Caldari wanted to do their own thing and go their own way. The "freedom" loving frogs responded by trying to destroy an entire planet, Caldari Prime, and its entire population. That is known as genocide. The Frogs tried to massacre the Caldari. The Frogs basically said do what we say or we will kill you. Sounds fascist to me.