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Namirial Kensai
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:55:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote:Because most of the "good players" don't want a challenge ...
I play Amarr and Caldari FW...
same here, i refuse to play gal/min.
but seriously, holy **** "bad" is not even the word i woudl use to describe some of the CALDARI players, over half the matches im in for caldari we lose ebcause no one can even hack a point, not because the enemy team is taking them, but because half our team is hiding in the redline, and the remaining half actually going for points involves half of them SHOOTING the other half if they get to the point first because apparently team killing over hacking rigths is a thing now.
like seriously, its worse than when i used to play CoD. And amarr seems to rarely have this problem |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
417
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Posted - 2013.12.26 22:51:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:And most importantly, a vast majority of the players I am curious about already have full proto suits and gear. So they don't need most of the LP items. I'm talking top players from Outer.Haven, Sver true blood, Ancient Exiles, Nyan San, Science for Death, Rainbow Effect, Dem Durty Boy's, OSG Planetary, Un holy Legion of Dark Star, and Dark Legion to name a few.
Nyain San & Ancient Exiles have been winning matches for Amarr so... yeah.
Gÿó +¦ +¦ Gÿó
Trained Skills
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PADDEHATPIGEN
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.26 23:48:00 -
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I'm sure that there a lot of players that do it for the easy winn, but i think that players are also looking at what they can get in the LP stores and what the fastest way to get some LP.
The only things worth getting in the LP stores for all the vets are the spec proto weapons that only have fitting cost like an advanced weapon, and all the newbees go for the proto gear they can use at lvl 3.
Amar/Caldari.
Laser rifle.
Scrambler rifle.
Scrambler pistol.
Sniper rifle. (That can't kill anything and you can get one just like it as salvage in pub matches)
Swarm launcher. (That can't kill anything)
Rail rifle.
Shield based vehicles.
They have aces to 6 weapons and 2 of them are USELESS.
Gallante/Minmatar.
Assault rifle.
Plasma cannon.
Mass driver.
Combat rifle.
SMG.
HMG. (A weapon only Amar can use so they are kinda forced to fight for there enemy to get the weapon they want/need)
Armor based vehicles.
I'm sure i forgot a few things but i think you all can see the problem. |
Alpha Canine
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.26 23:55:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Why oh why, do so many good players and good corps play for Gallente?
Is proto stomping random players, mostly noobs in basic gear that exciting? Do you get a thrill from redlining the map and then tripping over each other for kills while camping the one hostile uplink/CRU?
I was on a map earlier when 4 red tanks and a red squad had 4 squid players pinned in a bunker building. The rest of the map was red and we were the only four dudes doing ANYTHING for Caldari. And the Frogs were damn near killing each other to get in that building.
I want an honest answer. LP is not worth enough to play a boring game, that has no risk, no challenge. I have played on the frog side several times and it is as boring as a dead map on oceanic.
Please explain how killing noobs in basic gear, often stuck in the red line, is fun for full proto squads. Is K/D padding that important or are there other reasons?
K/D padding is very important to a lot of douchebags out there.
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Alpha Canine
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.12.27 00:02:00 -
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Has anyone seen my pig?
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Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.27 00:25:00 -
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I wouldn't say the good players are playing for gallente/minmatar, just the FotM players.
I solo a lot of amarr (have kids so I need to be able to go AFK in a split second and for good amounts of time). Whenever I see 1 squad on the amarr side I know that we are going to put up a good fight and have a decent chance at winning.
This means when I know that the amarr side will have 7+ players trying, we are going to do good.
The problem is this:
Queues for gallente/minmatar are long, for amarr/caldari they are short. This means that all of the newberries that don't know they can deselect certain factions get defaulted to amarr/caldari FW. Basically CCP has institutionalized newberry stomping in FW.
They can fix it easily too, I just think they are being lazy.
Best counter to Tanks? Tanks
Best counter to Infantry? Tanks
Best counter to Dropships? Tanks
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Piraten Hovnoret
No Tax Scrubs
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Posted - 2013.12.27 11:23:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Personally I just want Minny LP. Though earlier it was taking 10 mins or so to even get into a game.
I have considered fighting for Caldari to help balance things out (lol yea like I will make the blindest bit of difference) but to be honest if you dont want LP for a certain race then what is the point of fighting for a team that has nothing to offer you?
FW is a great idea but it is so lob-sided currently. I say CCP should give every faction a few high end better than complex (Just under officer level) gear that everyone will want so they will move around and fight for everyone.
Faction weapons that dont just give fitting bonus, maybe make them just a slight bit LESS powerful than the officer guns.
Like it is in eve... you get the idea.
Maybee open upp the oficer weapons abd suits for LP when your standing hits 9-10. ( would say 10 )
Think about it a officer caldari assult suit.., that would get things going.
Any way just a base ide that I have. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5086
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Posted - 2013.12.27 11:30:00 -
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Oh frustrated Caldari, making assumptions.
I play Gallente because I'm Gallente.
I use the GAR even though it's the worst rifle of the four.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5086
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Posted - 2013.12.27 11:32:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:Doesn't the game itself hate Caldari? Since almost every rifle is biased shields, then add flux nades, and the recent nerf. It really just sucks to play in a Caldari suit.
GAR/SCR - Shields
CR/RR - Armor
I don't see a bias here?
In addition, while flux grenades may "strip your shields" (Oh boohhooo!), a grenade will instantly kill an armor tanker.
No regen, no hiding in cover, just dead.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Valmorgan Aubaris
Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services
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Posted - 2013.12.27 11:34:00 -
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Maybe the whole "slavery and religion" thing turns them off?... Couldn't imagine why.
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Izlare Lenix
FREE AGENTS LP
65
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Posted - 2013.12.27 11:46:00 -
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Valmorgan Aubaris wrote:Maybe the whole "slavery and religion" thing turns them off?... Couldn't imagine why.
Um. That is Amarr not Caldari.
Also the stupid Frogs treated the Caldari like second class citizens. They also tried to force us to think like them. That is why we separated from them.
But the stupid Frogs didn't like these independent ideas so they massacred the Caldari population on Caldari Prime.
In the Squid vs. Frog conflict the Frogs are the evil ones. Not sure how everyone gets that wrong. Everyone believes the gals want peace and freedom buy thats only if it's on their terms. Disagree with their ideas, their motives or try to do your own thing and the damn frogs will burn your whole planet.
The Gallente are not good. Get your facts straight. |
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
292
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Posted - 2013.12.27 12:15:00 -
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Facists and religious fanatics deserve every bit of the stomping they are geting, LONG LIVE THE FEDERATION & GLORY TO THE REPUBLIC!! |
Izlare Lenix
FREE AGENTS LP
65
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Posted - 2013.12.27 12:50:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:Facists and religious fanatics deserve every bit of the stomping they are geting, LONG LIVE THE FEDERATION & GLORY TO THE REPUBLIC!!
It's obvious you and the majority of frog scum don't know what fascism is. Nor do you realize the scum frogs are the fascists, not the Caldari.
Core beliefs of fascism stem from uniformity, unified beliefs, and beliefe that ultra militarism/ warfare, and committing atrocities is for the better good of the nation. Also the Caldari's hyper capitalist society, and corporation controlled government is completely at odds with Facisim's controlled economies and authoritarian leadership structure.
The Caldari had different ideas and beliefs from the Frogs. The Caldari wanted to do their own thing and go their own way. The "freedom" loving frogs responded by trying to destroy an entire planet, Caldari Prime, and its entire population.
That is known as genocide. The Frogs tried to massacre the Caldari.
The Frogs basically said do what we say or we will kill you. Sounds fascist to me. |
Valmorgan Aubaris
Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services
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Posted - 2013.12.27 19:56:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:
Um. That is Amarr not Caldari.
Exactly, and he is Amarr wondering why his faction sucks.
Quote:Also the stupid Frogs treated the Caldari like second class citizens. They also tried to force us to think like them. That is why we separated from them.
But the stupid Frogs didn't like these independent ideas so they massacred the Caldari population on Caldari Prime. [/quote]
There is no middle ground, you are either free, or not free.
There is nothing independant about slavery and corporatism. Both are collectivist ideas. Freedom is based on the individual, and rights based upon the individual. Get your own facts streight.
Quote:In the Squid vs. Frog conflict the Frogs are the evil ones. Not sure how everyone gets that wrong. Everyone believes the gals want peace and freedom buy thats only if it's on their terms. Disagree with their ideas, their motives or try to do your own thing and the damn frogs will burn your whole planet.
The terms are: We will be free whether you like it or not.
Quote:The Gallente are not good. Get your facts straight.
I think after about 10 years a an EVE player, I probably have them as straight as Ill get them.
I began as Caldari, untill I learned what they attract. I know what I'm doing. Do you?
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.27 20:11:00 -
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We've been running Gallente before it was FOTM, and I believe I've only run about a half dozen rounds since LPs were introduced -- they were all boring stomps.
That said, I'm thinking of switching sides to Caldari -- more of a challenge and I want me some low CPU/PG specialist RRs. |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
792
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Posted - 2013.12.27 20:29:00 -
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There's no honest answer, because most of it will be bias although there's a few solid facts.
All FW had their "loyalists" before the change. Back during the great FW war we had, the Gallente and Minmatar ALWAYS LOST. That's an overstatement but it was pretty much the opposite of what's happening now but maybe a little worse due to the Gallente and Minmatar having crappy rewards.
I'll say that the Gal/Min people have been plotting for a comeback for a while. I'd even go out to say that the Gal have been doing it more hardcore than the Min because we usually have dedicated pilots online looking to bomb something.
Also there's the communication thing. We like to communicate as well and often I'll walk into a FW chat and we'll talk about Q-Syncing or running a plan. An example would be yesterday when I lead my squad(which was mostly Rainbow Effect and Foxhound) and we either took charge and combined efforts with the team w/o actually communicating.
Then there's also the players who dgaf about K/D ratio and will try their hardest to win, like me, but lately we've been catching a lot of tag-alongs who only want the spoils and so you're more likely to find a game where players will only go so far...Which leads me to my next point...
From what I usually see, Caldari players are either afraid or jaded with battle. Seriously. Kick them out of the battlefield or a major center point and they will stop fighting back.
I'd also like to emphasize that a good percentage of us don't fight because it's an easy win. A lot of us want hard battles but the other team fails to deliver. Honestly, I would love to fight against another team that has 3 full squads(of course with our team having the same) so that we can have really competitive battles.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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echo47
Minmatar Republic
138
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Posted - 2013.12.27 20:44:00 -
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Fact, dust players want it as easy as possible minmal risk with max reward.
I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
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Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
381
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Posted - 2013.12.27 20:53:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Why oh why, do so many good players and good corps play for Gallente?
Is proto stomping random players, mostly noobs in basic gear that exciting? Do you get a thrill from redlining the map and then tripping over each other for kills while camping the one hostile uplink/CRU?
I was on a map earlier when 4 red tanks and a red squad had 4 squid players pinned in a bunker building. The rest of the map was red and we were the only four dudes doing ANYTHING for Caldari. And the Frogs were damn near killing each other to get in that building.
I want an honest answer. LP is not worth enough to play a boring game, that has no risk, no challenge. I have played on the frog side several times and it is as boring as a dead map on oceanic.
Please explain how killing noobs in basic gear, often stuck in the red line, is fun for full proto squads. Is K/D padding that important or are there other reasons?
It warms my heart to read of the struggles of the poor Caldari and Amarr...
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but only because of how badly we were beat down when CCP was giving away faction rewards a month or two ago. I guess everyone wanted the scrambler rifles and whatnot, because you were seeing nothing but good players and corps sync up on the Amarr/Caldari side and redline us damn near every battle.
But yes, I've certainly noticed a lack of corps/squads in FW on the Amarr/Caldari side of things. A shame, really, as I've always preferred to play FW due to the likelihood of having more evenly-matched battles than skirmish public matches.
Life is killing me.
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.12.28 01:30:00 -
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Our alliance was in Gallente fac war long before uprising, so we've kept our loyalty. When Q syncing we always chose Gallente and now that Fac War draws more people we just happen to be on the most OP side. If Caldari suits were as popular as Gallente it would be a bit more balanced, but GK0 Logis are the thing to have I guess. Caldari get plenty of EVE support, but half the time no one drops it.
Tarn chose peace. Tallen chose war. Where is my Gallente sidearm?
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Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
293
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Posted - 2013.12.28 01:46:00 -
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If you are a rich gallentian, the world is your oyster. You are above the law, you answer to no one, and you can have all the pleasures/delights/whatever you want.
If you are a poor gallentian, you life is literally hell. You have no food, no house, no future. You and your offspring will forever be poor, and you will only know menial labor that barely pays enough to keep you alive until you die.
The gallente spout freedom and rights, but have the majority of the poor and destitute in new eden and could care less about them.
While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
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