DUST Search - A 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK suit

DJINN Marauder wrote:

RED FARM wrote:

I guess I am the only one that thinks tanks are sort of not so bad. The problem is not HAVs. It is blueberries on foot trying to attack them and dying. Scouts trying to cross the road right in front of them etc. BBs poking out from cover ..."I wonder if the tank is still there?"

If there are 4 enemies tanks on the field and maybe a LAV.... That is 4-8 less enemies foot soldiers able to attack or hold an objective(s). I know people will disagree.

One person can hold an objective against 2 tanks. It boils down to DEFEAT usually by getting cloned and not losing your MCC. Stay in cover and do not engage. Two days ago, I held an objective outside of a city vs. two tank with 3 operators for like 5 minutes. I just danced around a box. Anytime one started to leave I popped a couple rounds into him to make him stay.

If any tanker is 10 or more kills and 0 deaths..... squad leads need to target that tank and take him out them watch for a vehicle delivery and take him out again OR target him to completely avoid.

So, in this regard I feel a 100k tank is (or should be) about as effective as a 100k suit. In reality the tank may or maybe not be force multiplier depending on the blueberries.

Too bad I play ambush... No where to hide there and no objectives Cry

To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.

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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4894	Posted - 2013.12.22 18:05:00 - [1] - Quote A 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK suit. That is all. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3448	Posted - 2013.12.22 18:06:00 - [2] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: A 70k tank should be as effective as a 70k suit. That is all. Good feline, here , have some fish. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
jin foxdale Jedi Slime. 133	Posted - 2013.12.22 18:09:00 - [3] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: A 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK suit. That is all. That'd be fun for a day or two, taking down three HAVs with one AR clip, punching dropships from rooftops etc. Maybe an event? If you see me in the redline, driving an LAV in circles, fear not! Its my two year old son enjoying New Eden.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4894	Posted - 2013.12.22 18:11:00 - [4] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cat Merc wrote: A 70k tank should be as effective as a 70k suit. That is all. Good feline, here , have some fish. Nomnomnom Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1574	Posted - 2013.12.22 18:14:00 - [5] - Quote Compared to other tanks im sure it is... Amarr! Try EVE Online Selling Templar BPO
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4897	Posted - 2013.12.22 18:25:00 - [6] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: As for dropsuits it has never been on the same lvl, my 100k dropsuit could destroyer a 400k tank before 1.7 with ease. Yeah well, now that 100k dropsuit has to die several times to get that same tank that now costs 100k. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1482	Posted - 2013.12.22 18:26:00 - [7] - Quote I do love allot of these price related gripes and groans about vehicles especially from infantry who told tankers for months and months that isk price should not factor into balance Its gone from suck .....to blow level 1 forum warrior
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4898	Posted - 2013.12.22 18:29:00 - [8] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: I do love allot of these price related gripes and groans about vehicles especially from infantry who told tankers for months and months that isk price should not factor into balance Well, considering that a tank forces players to switch to AV, which means less fighters on the field, it was justified. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 218	Posted - 2013.12.22 18:32:00 - [9] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: A 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK suit. That is all. No. That's a Tank that's different. Tank is supposed to be more effective than 5 Players don't care about their ISK price. A Unfitted Tank is maybe 70K ISK (Militia) but an real tank well fitted cost more than 10 fits and is not always as effective. Militia Tank should just have no "Base" Modules and Turrets. I think Militia Tank should be empty. And to be use we should buy ourselves the turrets / and modules. Like that Militia tanks could be used without skills BUT will cost at least the same price than a Tank because we have to buy our weapons on. (Tank modules and weapons is really expensive even at militia level)
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 218	Posted - 2013.12.22 18:35:00 - [10] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: pegasis prime wrote: I do love allot of these price related gripes and groans about vehicles especially from infantry who told tankers for months and months that isk price should not factor into balance Well, considering that a tank forces players to switch to AV, which means less fighters on the field, it was justified. And you know these time (TTK so low...) An free suit or 2000ISK suit is as effective than an 80000ISK suit. Both of these suits is instant killed and die as easy. Now than Tanking does'not exist anymore. So you can't really compare Tanks and Dropsuits right now than the game is TOTALLY unbalanced. (Not just one or two eapons but the Core of the game is now ****** up with this TTK). Sorry for my bad english (Really sorry ^^')

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4898	Posted - 2013.12.22 18:37:00 - [11] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Cat Merc wrote: A 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK suit. That is all. No. That's a Tank that's different. Tank is supposed to be more effective than 5 Players don't care about their ISK price. A Unfitted Tank is maybe 70K ISK (Militia) but an real tank well fitted cost more than 10 fits and is not always as effective. Militia Tank should just have no "Base" Modules and Turrets. I think Militia Tank should be empty. And to be use we should buy ourselves the turrets / and modules. Like that Militia tanks could be used without skills BUT will cost at least the same price than a Tank because we have to buy our weapons on. (Tank modules and weapons is really expensive even at militia level) "Tank is supposed to be more effective than 5 Players don't care about their ISK price." Why. Give me a good reason in terms of game balance. "A Unfitted Tank is maybe 70K ISK (Militia) but an real tank well fitted cost more than 10 fits and is not always as effective." Lmao, the most expensive tank fit I saw was 180k, I have dropsuits more expensive than that. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
bear90211 Nyain San Renegade Alliance 140	Posted - 2013.12.22 18:39:00 - [12] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: A 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK suit. That is all. You do know, their cutting the costs of suits and weapons to kill the QQ about vary small payouts. this will be fixed soon. Heavies are still squishy to my AR, just 5 rounds into them extra ;D hmm, I want taco's...
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5190	Posted - 2013.12.22 18:41:00 - [13] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: A 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK suit. That is all. Lol okay we get tanks need an ISK increase, but why even bother having vehicles and roles in this game is they should all be as effective as one another? To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
TunRa RETR0 PR0 GAMERS INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 268	Posted - 2013.12.22 18:41:00 - [14] - Quote This is why I started AT-tanking, to shut up all the infantry. Thanks CCP Foxfour
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4899	Posted - 2013.12.22 18:43:00 - [15] - Quote bear90211 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: A 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK suit. That is all. You do know, their cutting the costs of suits and weapons to kill the QQ about vary small payouts. this will be fixed soon. As far as I know, this was a rumor started by players. I want to see source. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
IR Scifi Knights of Eternal Darkness 72	Posted - 2013.12.22 19:01:00 - [16] - Quote jin foxdale wrote: Cat Merc wrote: A 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK suit. That is all. That'd be fun for a day or two, taking down three HAVs with one AR clip, punching dropships from rooftops etc. Maybe an event? As stupid as the other idea sounds, I'd fully support this.
RED FARM GOOD OL' B0YS 42	Posted - 2013.12.22 19:15:00 - [17] - Quote I guess I am the only one that thinks tanks are sort of not so bad. The problem is not HAVs. It is blueberries on foot trying to attack them and dying. Scouts trying to cross the road right in front of them etc. BBs poking out from cover ..."I wonder if the tank is still there?" If there are 4 enemies tanks on the field and maybe a LAV.... That is 4-8 less enemies foot soldiers able to attack or hold an objective(s). I know people will disagree. One person can hold an objective against 2 tanks. It boils down to DEFEAT usually by getting cloned and not losing your MCC. Stay in cover and do not engage. Two days ago, I held an objective outside of a city vs. two tank with 3 operators for like 5 minutes. I just danced around a box. Anytime one started to leave I popped a couple rounds into him to make him stay. If any tanker is 10 or more kills and 0 deaths..... squad leads need to target that tank and take him out them watch for a vehicle delivery and take him out again OR target him to completely avoid. So, in this regard I feel a 100k tank is (or should be) about as effective as a 100k suit. In reality the tank may or maybe not be force multiplier depending on the blueberries. Public Chat: GOOD OL' B0YS Please note the word B0YS has a zero in it.
DeadlyAztec11 2850	Posted - 2013.12.22 19:24:00 - [18] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: That's a Tank that's different. Tank is supposed to be more effective than 5 Players don't care about their ISK price. Lost all credibility with that. »We still have our honor!
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1382	Posted - 2013.12.22 19:30:00 - [19] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: A 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK suit. That is all. ISK arguments are not right or wrong, but they are totally irrelevant wrt game balance for all the obvious and oft-quoted reasons. To belabour the painfully obvious, CCP will still have to think carefully about mineral inputs and EVE market value for DUST vehicles. I support SP rollover.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1409	Posted - 2013.12.22 19:58:00 - [20] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: A 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK suit. That is all. So the question is.. who is lacking efficiency :)

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4904	Posted - 2013.12.22 19:59:00 - [21] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Cat Merc wrote: A 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK suit. That is all. So the question is.. who is lacking efficiency :) Or maybe who is too efficinet :) Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 3510	Posted - 2013.12.22 20:05:00 - [22] - Quote RED FARM wrote: I guess I am the only one that thinks tanks are sort of not so bad. The problem is not HAVs. It is blueberries on foot trying to attack them and dying. Scouts trying to cross the road right in front of them etc. BBs poking out from cover ..."I wonder if the tank is still there?" If there are 4 enemies tanks on the field and maybe a LAV.... That is 4-8 less enemies foot soldiers able to attack or hold an objective(s). I know people will disagree. One person can hold an objective against 2 tanks. It boils down to DEFEAT usually by getting cloned and not losing your MCC. Stay in cover and do not engage. Two days ago, I held an objective outside of a city vs. two tank with 3 operators for like 5 minutes. I just danced around a box. Anytime one started to leave I popped a couple rounds into him to make him stay. If any tanker is 10 or more kills and 0 deaths..... squad leads need to target that tank and take him out them watch for a vehicle delivery and take him out again OR target him to completely avoid. So, in this regard I feel a 100k tank is (or should be) about as effective as a 100k suit. In reality the tank may or maybe not be force multiplier depending on the blueberries. Too bad I play ambush... No where to hide there and no objectives GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 3 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5193	Posted - 2013.12.22 22:03:00 - [23] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: RED FARM wrote: I guess I am the only one that thinks tanks are sort of not so bad. The problem is not HAVs. It is blueberries on foot trying to attack them and dying. Scouts trying to cross the road right in front of them etc. BBs poking out from cover ..."I wonder if the tank is still there?" If there are 4 enemies tanks on the field and maybe a LAV.... That is 4-8 less enemies foot soldiers able to attack or hold an objective(s). I know people will disagree. One person can hold an objective against 2 tanks. It boils down to DEFEAT usually by getting cloned and not losing your MCC. Stay in cover and do not engage. Two days ago, I held an objective outside of a city vs. two tank with 3 operators for like 5 minutes. I just danced around a box. Anytime one started to leave I popped a couple rounds into him to make him stay. If any tanker is 10 or more kills and 0 deaths..... squad leads need to target that tank and take him out them watch for a vehicle delivery and take him out again OR target him to completely avoid. So, in this regard I feel a 100k tank is (or should be) about as effective as a 100k suit. In reality the tank may or maybe not be force multiplier depending on the blueberries. Too bad I play ambush... No where to hide there and no objectives Ambush is the worst game mode and no tank should be balanced for Ambush the garbage game mode that it is. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
CLONE117 planetary retaliation organisation 536	Posted - 2013.12.22 22:21:00 - [24] - Quote my cheap mlt suit is more effective than my 88k isk tank in some matches ive been having....
Auris Lionesse SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 16	Posted - 2013.12.22 22:31:00 - [25] - Quote Tanks are fine in bf and they die in 3-4 hits and limited to 1 or 2 per team. No one complains.
Thumb Green Novashift 599	Posted - 2013.12.22 22:49:00 - [26] - Quote RED FARM wrote: If there are 4 enemies tanks on the field and maybe a LAV.... That is 4-8 less enemies foot soldiers able to attack or hold an objective(s). I know people will disagree. I do disagree because many objectives (particularly on the old maps) can be attacked & defended by tanks; just not captured, but they sure as hell can cover the infantryman that is capturing the objective. Never mind the president, let's overgrow the government.
Daddrobit PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 413	Posted - 2013.12.22 23:21:00 - [27] - Quote Hmmmm, I just went 45-5 in my 47,000 suit. Have you thought maybe it's operator error if you can't do well in expensive things?
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1035	Posted - 2013.12.22 23:31:00 - [28] - Quote I don't think anyone could disagree with the title.
Jason Pearson 3591	Posted - 2013.12.22 23:39:00 - [29] - Quote So it's okay for AV to cry about prices, but when my 1.7mil tank gets taken out by three Lai Dais, I need to htfu? You know what? HTFU you terribad players. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire. Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.
Kane Fyea Scions of Athra 2430	Posted - 2013.12.22 23:43:00 - [30] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: So it's okay for AV to cry about prices, but when my 1.7mil tank gets taken out by three Lai Dais, I need to htfu? You know what? HTFU you terribad players. You do know that there was only like 2 or 3 people saying that isk isn't a balancing factor right?



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