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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2013.12.22 23:45:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:So it's okay for AV to cry about prices, but when my 1.7mil tank gets taken out by three Lai Dais, I need to htfu?
You know what? HTFU you terribad players. You do know that there was only like 2 or 3 people saying that isk isn't a balancing factor right?
Nope, people said it was fine, thus everybody was against me.
You're all awful people and I hope TQ goes down while I'm sleeping.
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Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2013.12.22 23:45:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:So it's okay for AV to cry about prices, but when my 1.7mil tank gets taken out by three Lai Dais, I need to htfu?
You know what? HTFU you terribad players.
What crap ass tank are you running that dies to 3 Dai Lai's?
Like seriously.
»We still have our honor!
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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2013.12.22 23:47:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:So it's okay for AV to cry about prices, but when my 1.7mil tank gets taken out by three Lai Dais, I need to htfu?
You know what? HTFU you terribad players. What crap ass tank are you running that dies to 3 Dai Lai's? Like seriously.
Before 1.7, nearly everything died to Lai Dais.
Like, seriously girlfriend.
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Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
5200
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Posted - 2013.12.22 23:56:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:So it's okay for AV to cry about prices, but when my 1.7mil tank gets taken out by three Lai Dais, I need to htfu?
You know what? HTFU you terribad players. What crap ass tank are you running that dies to 3 Dai Lai's? Like seriously. Before 1.7, nearly everything died to Lai Dais. Like, seriously girlfriend.
Yup 3 was always enough to finish my tank from god only know what angle that I could even comprehend.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2013.12.22 23:58:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:So it's okay for AV to cry about prices, but when my 1.7mil tank gets taken out by three Lai Dais, I need to htfu?
You know what? HTFU you terribad players. What crap ass tank are you running that dies to 3 Dai Lai's? Like seriously. Before 1.7, nearly everything died to Lai Dais. Like, seriously girlfriend.
Like OMG, don't be such a drama queen. Vehicles had issues with cost ans rendering but CCP went way too far with all the AV nerfs, like totally.
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.23 00:00:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:So it's okay for AV to cry about prices, but when my 1.7mil tank gets taken out by three Lai Dais, I need to htfu?
You know what? HTFU you terribad players. What crap ass tank are you running that dies to 3 Dai Lai's? Like seriously. Before 1.7, nearly everything died to Lai Dais. Like, seriously girlfriend. Like OMG, don't be such a drama queen. Vehicles had issues with cost ans rendering but CCP went way too far with all the AV nerfs, like totally.
I cant take a man seriously if he says "Like Totally" in a sentence....you just crossed a line.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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Tectonic Fusion
772
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Posted - 2013.12.23 00:03:00 -
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All I know is I'd rather have a tank and six advanced gear people defending an objective than 10+ proto stompers.
Solo Player
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Sky Kage
Immortal Guides
598
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Posted - 2013.12.23 00:06:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:A 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK suit.
That is all.
i personally only use my 95k isk mlt rail tank against other tanks that are pissing me off and believe me when i say thats the only real AV left now.
I die alot AND have fun... Who knew?
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
218
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Posted - 2013.12.23 00:14:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:Tanks are fine in bf and they die in 3-4 hits and limited to 1 or 2 per team. No one complains.
I'm a Battlefield Tank driver.
In Battlefield Tanks is free.
Well fitted tank in BF can take 9 rocket shots shots from face.
Tanks in BF can EASILY avoid RPG shoots.
They have 2 weapons primary AND secondary.
The Turrets for passenger makes kill waym ore easier than in Dust.
They can use flare to avoid launchers like the Swarm Launcher.
They have the Speed boost.
They are way more easy to manoeuver.
And to finish my Battlefield tank can crush ennemies just by passing on them.
Quote:Lmao, the most expensive tank fit I saw was 180k, I have dropsuits more expensive than that.
Then open your eyes.
A good Tank fit is more than 500K.
Modules is really expensive and Turrets is OH MY GAWD So expensive.
And i'm not even an Tank driver..... just goes to market 25sec.... |
Kane Fyea
Scions of Athra
2430
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Posted - 2013.12.23 00:18:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:Tanks are fine in bf and they die in 3-4 hits and limited to 1 or 2 per team. No one complains. I'm a Battlefield Tank driver. In Battlefield Tanks is free. Well fitted tank in BF can take 9 rocket shots shots from face. Tanks in BF can EASILY avoid RPG shoots. They have 2 weapons primary AND secondary. The Turrets for passenger makes kill waym ore easier than in Dust. They can use flare to avoid launchers like the Swarm Launcher. They have the Speed boost. They are way more easy to manoeuver. And to finish my Battlefield tank can crush ennemies just by passing on them. Quote:Lmao, the most expensive tank fit I saw was 180k, I have dropsuits more expensive than that. Then open your eyes. A good Tank fit is more than 500K. Modules is really expensive and Turrets is OH MY GAWD So expensive. And i'm not even an Tank driver..... just goes to market 25sec....
Battlefield tanks also die very easily to c4. Put 3 on and detonate and you have a kill. Also I can snipe tanks very well with the RPG (I also destroy helicopters with my RPG). |
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1302
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Posted - 2013.12.23 00:32:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Cat Merc wrote:A 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK suit.
That is all. No. That's a Tank that's different. Tank is supposed to be more effective than 5 Players don't care about their ISK price. A Unfitted Tank is maybe 70K ISK (Militia) but an real tank well fitted cost more than 10 fits and is not always as effective. Militia Tank should just have no "Base" Modules and Turrets. I think Militia Tank should be empty. And to be use we should buy ourselves the turrets / and modules. Like that Militia tanks could be used without skills BUT will cost at least the same price than a Tank because we have to buy our weapons on. (Tank modules and weapons is really expensive even at militia level)
Hold on, 5 players? You are saying a tank should have the equivalent force strength of a 5 man wolf pack?
Are you serious?
So a team with 5 tanks has a force strength of 36 against 16?
And you wonder why WTF has a bad reputation for pub stomping, you wonder everyone and their mother is rushing to deploy there tank first?
Ill say it once, Ill say it a thousand times.
One tank alone should be no more effective than 1 infantry unit.
1tank == 1infantry
5tank == 5infantry
1tank + 4 infantry > 5 infantry
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1302
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Posted - 2013.12.23 00:39:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:A 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK suit.
That is all.
Not quite, I agree with the principle, disagree with the mentality.
Units should be priced on their survivability, not power.
But units should be balanced against each other based on Force Strength.
1 unit should never be undeniably better in a solo instance than another.
So shotgunners should be no less useful than snipers, who should be no less useful than rifles, who should be no less useful than tanks.
Instead there worth is improved dependent upon the situation, tanks should be no different even if they were cheaper than adv suits.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Jason Pearson
3595
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Posted - 2013.12.23 00:48:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:
So shotgunners should be no less useful than snipers
I read this, and all I could picture was a scout with a shotgun on a mountain just firing and getting kills from hundreds of meters away -¼_-¼
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire.
Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2013.12.23 00:51:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:Tanks are fine in bf and they die in 3-4 hits and limited to 1 or 2 per team. No one complains. I'm a Battlefield Tank driver. In Battlefield Tanks is free. Well fitted tank in BF can take 9 rocket shots shots from face. Tanks in BF can EASILY avoid RPG shoots. They have 2 weapons primary AND secondary. The Turrets for passenger makes kill waym ore easier than in Dust. They can use flare to avoid launchers like the Swarm Launcher. They have the Speed boost. They are way more easy to manoeuver. And to finish my Battlefield tank can crush ennemies just by passing on them. Quote:Lmao, the most expensive tank fit I saw was 180k, I have dropsuits more expensive than that. Then open your eyes. A good Tank fit is more than 500K. Modules is really expensive and Turrets is OH MY GAWD So expensive. And i'm not even an Tank driver..... just goes to market 25sec.... Battlefield tanks also die very easily to c4. Put 3 on and detonate and you have a kill. Also I can snipe tanks very well with the RPG (I also destroy helicopters with my RPG). Also the only way you can tank 9+ rpgs in battlefield is if you have someone repping the tank or the person sucks aat using the RPG (To effectively tank in bf you better have a good gunner or else get ready to get blown up by c4 or rpgs).
If you died in Battlefield 4 by C4 it means you're not really lucky
I'm almost level 30 and i never died from C4 on my Tank. (But i'm always moving when i'm in my tank so.....)
In battlefield 4 RPG rockets are as slow than the Plasma Cannon.
You hear the shot you move it will miss.
I said 9 rockets i didn't say RPG.
I was speaking about NLAW or light guided rockets. (Which looks like the Swarm launcher.) |
Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1302
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Posted - 2013.12.23 00:54:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
So shotgunners should be no less useful than snipers
I read this, and all I could picture was a scout with a shotgun on a mountain just firing and getting kills from hundreds of meters away -¼_-¼
Now that would be hilarious, but that is not quite what I meant you understand.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
5205
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Posted - 2013.12.23 00:55:00 -
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Swarm Launcher would be cool if the player had to guide their rockets to the target.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
218
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Posted - 2013.12.23 00:58:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Cat Merc wrote:A 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK suit.
That is all. No. That's a Tank that's different. Tank is supposed to be more effective than 5 Players don't care about their ISK price. A Unfitted Tank is maybe 70K ISK (Militia) but an real tank well fitted cost more than 10 fits and is not always as effective. Militia Tank should just have no "Base" Modules and Turrets. I think Militia Tank should be empty. And to be use we should buy ourselves the turrets / and modules. Like that Militia tanks could be used without skills BUT will cost at least the same price than a Tank because we have to buy our weapons on. (Tank modules and weapons is really expensive even at militia level) Hold on, 5 players? You are saying a tank should have the equivalent force strength of a 5 man wolf pack? Are you serious? So a team with 5 tanks has a force strength of 36 against 16? And you wonder why WTF has a bad reputation for pub stomping, you wonder everyone and their mother is rushing to deploy there tank first? Ill say it once, Ill say it a thousand times. One tank alone should be no more effective than 1 infantry unit. 1tank == 1infantry 5tank == 5infantry 1tank + 4 infantry > 5 infantry
Oh come on SERIOUSLY ?
Why are you attacking WTF for what i'm saying ME ?
As far as i remember i didn't protostomp.
Please don't start speaking about WTF with no reason just..don't speak to me like i was an WTF.
I mean that's a FREAKING TANK.
That's EVIDENT than a tank is stronger than a single player.......
With your logic a single player with Militia rifle should be able to kill an TITAN from EVE as easily than the TITAN to kill the little soldier ?
Come one all of you tank driver try to explain to him.
For me that's SO EVIDENT than a tank is supposed to be stronger than a dropsuits that i can't explain to him... |
Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1303
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Posted - 2013.12.23 01:04:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Cat Merc wrote:A 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK suit.
That is all. No. That's a Tank that's different. Tank is supposed to be more effective than 5 Players don't care about their ISK price. A Unfitted Tank is maybe 70K ISK (Militia) but an real tank well fitted cost more than 10 fits and is not always as effective. Militia Tank should just have no "Base" Modules and Turrets. I think Militia Tank should be empty. And to be use we should buy ourselves the turrets / and modules. Like that Militia tanks could be used without skills BUT will cost at least the same price than a Tank because we have to buy our weapons on. (Tank modules and weapons is really expensive even at militia level) Hold on, 5 players? You are saying a tank should have the equivalent force strength of a 5 man wolf pack? Are you serious? So a team with 5 tanks has a force strength of 36 against 16? And you wonder why WTF has a bad reputation for pub stomping, you wonder everyone and their mother is rushing to deploy there tank first? Ill say it once, Ill say it a thousand times. One tank alone should be no more effective than 1 infantry unit. 1tank == 1infantry 5tank == 5infantry 1tank + 4 infantry > 5 infantry Oh come on SERIOUSLY ? Why are you attacking WTF for what i'm saying ME ? As far as i remember i didn't protostomp. Please don't start speaking about WTF with no reason just..don't speak to me like i was an WTF. I mean that's a FREAKING TANK. That's EVIDENT than a tank is stronger than a single player....... With your logic a single player with Militia rifle should be able to kill an TITAN from EVE as easily than the TITAN to kill the little soldier ? Come one all of you tank driver try to explain to him. For me that's SO EVIDENT than a tank is supposed to be stronger than a dropsuits that i can't explain to him...
Fine I'll leave em out of it, Stonger as in more health or survivability, yes.
In terms of worth on the battle field no. If you want an example, you way say shuttle or frigate shouldn't be worth as much as say a super carrier? THIS video suggests otherwise.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
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Goric Rumis
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
258
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Posted - 2013.12.23 01:05:00 -
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Yes and no.
"No" in that nothing in the game should be balanced on ISK alone. Balancing the battlefield is more important than balancing the cost.
"Yes" in as much as effectiveness is measured overall, and not specifically by the ability to destroy it or its ability to kill. Its effectiveness needs to be limited to a specific realm. Right now, tanks are the most effective in all realms--they just need infantry to take care of the little stuff like hacking objectives. Their effectiveness needs to be limited by a redesign of the maps to limit their domain. |
Guildo Crow
ZionTCD
Public Disorder.
173
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Posted - 2013.12.23 01:12:00 -
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how about a 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK tank?
A tank and a dropsuit are not the same thing. You want to kill that tank... bring a tank.
AV is supplementary. When it comes down to the basics, only a vehicle should "easily" take out another vehicle. Since tanks are balanced now, you can bring in a MLT tank and have a great chance at popping a STD tank.
Game balancing shouldn't mean everything can kill everything equally. If that were the case, then make all suits and vehicles insta-kill each other at infinite range.
USE the tanks! they are cheaper now, and easier to access for all players. |
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
218
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Posted - 2013.12.23 01:12:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Cat Merc wrote:A 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK suit.
That is all. No. That's a Tank that's different. Tank is supposed to be more effective than 5 Players don't care about their ISK price. A Unfitted Tank is maybe 70K ISK (Militia) but an real tank well fitted cost more than 10 fits and is not always as effective. Militia Tank should just have no "Base" Modules and Turrets. I think Militia Tank should be empty. And to be use we should buy ourselves the turrets / and modules. Like that Militia tanks could be used without skills BUT will cost at least the same price than a Tank because we have to buy our weapons on. (Tank modules and weapons is really expensive even at militia level) Hold on, 5 players? You are saying a tank should have the equivalent force strength of a 5 man wolf pack? Are you serious? So a team with 5 tanks has a force strength of 36 against 16? And you wonder why WTF has a bad reputation for pub stomping, you wonder everyone and their mother is rushing to deploy there tank first? Ill say it once, Ill say it a thousand times. One tank alone should be no more effective than 1 infantry unit. 1tank == 1infantry 5tank == 5infantry 1tank + 4 infantry > 5 infantry Oh come on SERIOUSLY ? Why are you attacking WTF for what i'm saying ME ? As far as i remember i didn't protostomp. Please don't start speaking about WTF with no reason just..don't speak to me like i was an WTF. I mean that's a FREAKING TANK. That's EVIDENT than a tank is stronger than a single player....... With your logic a single player with Militia rifle should be able to kill an TITAN from EVE as easily than the TITAN to kill the little soldier ? Come one all of you tank driver try to explain to him. For me that's SO EVIDENT than a tank is supposed to be stronger than a dropsuits that i can't explain to him... Fine I'll leave em out of it, Stonger as in more health or survivability, yes. In terms of worth on the battle field no. If you want an example, you way say shuttle or frigate shouldn't be worth as much as say a super carrier? THIS video suggests otherwise.
No i'm saying than an man with a small gun is not as powerful than a TANK.
Which is pretty Logic. |
Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1303
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Posted - 2013.12.23 01:14:00 -
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Guildo Crow wrote:how about a 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK tank?
A tank and a dropsuit are not the same thing. You want to kill that tank... bring a tank.
AV is supplementary. When it comes down to the basics, only a vehicle should "easily" take out another vehicle. Since tanks are balanced now, you can bring in a MLT tank and have a great chance at popping a STD tank.
Game balancing shouldn't mean everything can kill everything equally. If that were the case, then make all suits and vehicles insta-kill each other at infinite range.
USE the tanks! they are cheaper now, and easier to access for all players.
So what happens when only one side brings tanks?
Tell me have you ever been on the recieving end of 5 blaster turrets, in your redline?
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
218
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Posted - 2013.12.23 01:20:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Guildo Crow wrote:how about a 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK tank?
A tank and a dropsuit are not the same thing. You want to kill that tank... bring a tank.
AV is supplementary. When it comes down to the basics, only a vehicle should "easily" take out another vehicle. Since tanks are balanced now, you can bring in a MLT tank and have a great chance at popping a STD tank.
Game balancing shouldn't mean everything can kill everything equally. If that were the case, then make all suits and vehicles insta-kill each other at infinite range.
USE the tanks! they are cheaper now, and easier to access for all players. So what happens when only one side brings tanks? Tell me have you ever been on the recieving end of 5 blaster turrets, in your redline?
If one side comes in underwear with a tooth pick.
While the others are using Destroyers and Metal gears.
It seems pretty logic than the side with technolgy wins isn't ?
If the underwear side was 10x more and hided (like in vietnam) then OK they can win.
But it's 16vs 16.
They lose.
That's exactly what he said.
Militia tank can destroy normal tank easily with good timing.
They have tanks ?
Bring yours it's pretty cheap.
I mean in Battlefield if one side have 4 T-90 and 3 LAV that's NORMAL they win over 7 poor soldier. |
Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1303
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Posted - 2013.12.23 01:22:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:
No.
That's a Tank that's different.
Tank is supposed to be more effective than 5 Players don't care about their ISK price.
A Unfitted Tank is maybe 70K ISK (Militia) but an real tank well fitted cost more than 10 fits and is not always as effective.
Militia Tank should just have no "Base" Modules and Turrets.
I think Militia Tank should be empty.
And to be use we should buy ourselves the turrets / and modules.
Like that Militia tanks could be used without skills BUT will cost at least the same price than a Tank because we have to buy our weapons on.
(Tank modules and weapons is really expensive even at militia level)
Hold on, 5 players? You are saying a tank should have the equivalent force strength of a 5 man wolf pack? Are you serious? So a team with 5 tanks has a force strength of 36 against 16? And you wonder why WTF has a bad reputation for pub stomping, you wonder everyone and their mother is rushing to deploy there tank first? Ill say it once, Ill say it a thousand times. One tank alone should be no more effective than 1 infantry unit. 1tank == 1infantry 5tank == 5infantry 1tank + 4 infantry > 5 infantry Oh come on SERIOUSLY ? Why are you attacking WTF for what i'm saying ME ? As far as i remember i didn't protostomp. Please don't start speaking about WTF with no reason just..don't speak to me like i was an WTF. I mean that's a FREAKING TANK. That's EVIDENT than a tank is stronger than a single player....... With your logic a single player with Militia rifle should be able to kill an TITAN from EVE as easily than the TITAN to kill the little soldier ? Come one all of you tank driver try to explain to him. For me that's SO EVIDENT than a tank is supposed to be stronger than a dropsuits that i can't explain to him... Fine I'll leave em out of it, Stonger as in more health or survivability, yes. In terms of worth on the battle field no. If you want an example, you way say shuttle or frigate shouldn't be worth as much as say a super carrier? THIS video suggests otherwise. No i'm saying than an man with a small gun is not as powerful than a TANK. Which is pretty Logic.
So you don't disagree with the video then?
No he is not gonna be as 'Powerful', but that tank isn't likely to turn the tide of battle than an extra guy on the ground.
If you start getting into the realms of 1 thing having more worth than another, the outcome of the battle devolves into simple math. They have higher force strength so they will win, tactics become pointless, teamwork becomes useless, even infantry gear no longer has an effect.
In addition as someone pointed out, in EVE there is no soilder cap. If you bring in a titan, I could bring in 500 frigates to deal with it. Do you not think Bigger ships would be unfair if you could only 5 ships per side?
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1303
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Posted - 2013.12.23 01:26:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Guildo Crow wrote:how about a 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK tank?
A tank and a dropsuit are not the same thing. You want to kill that tank... bring a tank.
AV is supplementary. When it comes down to the basics, only a vehicle should "easily" take out another vehicle. Since tanks are balanced now, you can bring in a MLT tank and have a great chance at popping a STD tank.
Game balancing shouldn't mean everything can kill everything equally. If that were the case, then make all suits and vehicles insta-kill each other at infinite range.
USE the tanks! they are cheaper now, and easier to access for all players. So what happens when only one side brings tanks? Tell me have you ever been on the recieving end of 5 blaster turrets, in your redline? If one side comes in underwear with a tooth pick. While the others are using Destroyers and Metal gears. It seems pretty logic than the side with technolgy wins isn't ? If the underwear side was 10x more and hided (like in vietnam) then OK they can win. But it's 16vs 16. They lose. That's exactly what he said. Militia tank can destroy normal tank easily with good timing. They have tanks ? Bring yours it's pretty cheap. I mean in Battlefield if one side have 4 T-90 and 3 LAV that's NORMAL they win over 7 poor soldier.
In battlefield everyone has access to those same vehicles they are free and they respawn.
It doesn't guarantee victory.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
5207
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Posted - 2013.12.23 01:47:00 -
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Goric Rumis wrote:Yes and no.
"No" in that nothing in the game should be balanced on ISK alone. Balancing the battlefield is more important than balancing the cost.
"Yes" in as much as effectiveness is measured overall, and not specifically by the ability to destroy it or its ability to kill. Its effectiveness needs to be limited to a specific realm. Right now, tanks are the most effective in all realms--they just need infantry to take care of the little stuff like hacking objectives. Their effectiveness needs to be limited by a redesign of the maps to limit their domain.
True in some regards but New Eden is based on a harsh reality.
You buy better stuff, you tend to win. Were not in some Starwars arcade defy all disbelief. In reality when you buy something of higher quality that someone else you tend to have better results from it.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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Mobius Wyvern
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
4221
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Posted - 2013.12.23 05:18:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:A 70k ISK tank should be as effective as a 70k ISK suit.
That is all.
I'd support this thread, but I'd just get called a traitor.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.12.23 06:57:00 -
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On principal alone, it makes sense to me that a body costs the same or relatively more than a vehicle to produce.
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.23 07:06:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:On principal alone, it makes sense to me that a body costs the same or relatively more than a vehicle to produce.
Really seems to me the body would be cheaper to make than a compact internal vehicle powerplant
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
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Posted - 2013.12.23 11:03:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:On principal alone, it makes sense to me that a body costs the same or relatively more than a vehicle to produce. Really seems to me the body would be cheaper to make than a compact internal vehicle powerplant
Fusion over new life, I would say they are about equal.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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