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skippy678 the.R3D.kings IMMORTAL REGIME 405	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:21:00 - [1] - Quote Come on CCP, Do something...say something...let us know that your on this. Standing back and not saying anything about if this is working as intended? Get involved man because this tank spam is ruining the game. Horrible I cant even play for 3 matches before i just Cant anymore. U.play.good? F.T.U. Recruiting Thread
Green Living Scions of Athra 1082	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:24:00 - [2] - Quote Everyone head to the MCC for protection! You can still get your SP and let the tanks play with each other.
Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 570	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:25:00 - [3] - Quote You mad bruh? *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5022	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:25:00 - [4] - Quote skippy678 wrote: Come on CCP, Do something...say something...let us know that your on this. Standing back and not saying anything about if this is working as intended? Get involved man because this tank spam is ruining the game. Horrible I cant even play for 3 matches before i just Cant anymore. Call in your own MLT tank and clear them out? couple that with friendly AV fire? All are useful ideas. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 964	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:26:00 - [5] - Quote don't tell me you're leaving skippy? the main problem with tanks is the quantity you can bring in. if they lower that, then the tank problem should be fixed. just stick it out a little longer. i'm sure they'll fix it. Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
Panoscape BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 175	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:27:00 - [6] - Quote Here, have some CHEESE for your wine. HTFU and grow a spine. Get a crew of forge gunners or RE guys and go tank hunting. Make tankers fear calling in a tank when you're facing them. If you don't have the SP in the right places, save up and put it there.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 861	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:27:00 - [7] - Quote they already reduced our top speed... what more do you want? on second thought save your fingers i already know. "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout, tanker. CLOSED BETA VET
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 74	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:31:00 - [8] - Quote I'm killing tanks by the handful? Skill into AV a bit, don't run at a tank screaming "Gobbdlyguk!" unless you're in a Matari Mobile Missile (Jihad Jeep). Bring a friend, play it safe and smart, or call in a tank.....all of which viable options. Granted, the right team will abuse having tanks around, even if the tankers suck, so if it looks that way, just avoid the tanks whenever possible and kill the infantry, make it easier for your AV to work. side note: I have adjusted to the new swarms already....I make it work just fine now.
skippy678 the.R3D.kings IMMORTAL REGIME 405	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:34:00 - [9] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: don't tell me you're leaving skippy? the main problem with tanks is the quantity you can bring in. if they lower that, then the tank problem should be fixed. just stick it out a little longer. i'm sure they'll fix it. i still go on everyday , i just get off now after a couple matches....my game used to be running with a squad doing good now all the key players are spending the entire match chasing the non stop tanks evrywhere... I used to do say 10/2 most matches being a logi. now its like 10/8 with the extra 6 deaths all from tanks evrydamn match...sniping in the redline...run over by a tank...walk out of a building..hey theres 5 tanks there....bullshit If i wanted to play world of tanks i would play it, but im not im playing dust. believe me you Im a 25 millionsp player and I know you can blow up a tank but thats not the only thing i wanna spend my whole day doing...and it is...at least untill i decide that watching TV is more fun than tank514. which it is after 3 matches. sorry.. U.play.good? F.T.U. Recruiting Thread
echo47 Minmatar Republic 118	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:34:00 - [10] - Quote True Adamance wrote: skippy678 wrote: Come on CCP, Do something...say something...let us know that your on this. Standing back and not saying anything about if this is working as intended? Get involved man because this tank spam is ruining the game. Horrible I cant even play for 3 matches before i just Cant anymore. Call in your own MLT tank and clear them out? couple that with friendly AV fire? All are useful ideas. Same response from AV when they advised tankers to use support and not run solo. How did that work out for you? I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.

True Adamance Scions of Athra 5022	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:36:00 - [11] - Quote echo47 wrote: True Adamance wrote: skippy678 wrote: Come on CCP, Do something...say something...let us know that your on this. Standing back and not saying anything about if this is working as intended? Get involved man because this tank spam is ruining the game. Horrible I cant even play for 3 matches before i just Cant anymore. Call in your own MLT tank and clear them out? couple that with friendly AV fire? All are useful ideas. Same response from AV when they advised tankers to use support and not run solo. How did that work out for you? We became usable? I don't see how you can compare 1.6 to 1.7 since at 50 m you people were invisible you swarms could lock across half the map, and FG were so devastating one tower forgegunner killed the entire vehicle aspect of this game.... To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
skippy678 the.R3D.kings IMMORTAL REGIME 405	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:38:00 - [12] - Quote echo47 wrote: True Adamance wrote: skippy678 wrote: Come on CCP, Do something...say something...let us know that your on this. Standing back and not saying anything about if this is working as intended? Get involved man because this tank spam is ruining the game. Horrible I cant even play for 3 matches before i just Cant anymore. Call in your own MLT tank and clear them out? couple that with friendly AV fire? All are useful ideas. Same response from AV when they advised tankers to use support and not run solo. How did that work out for you? I hve a militia tank set up with 2x damage and 2x rails..which works ok still gets old quick, I even sneeked up djinn marauder earlier for the kill..and then him and his 3 friends bend me over for the duration. U.play.good? F.T.U. Recruiting Thread
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 257	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:38:00 - [13] - Quote skippy678 wrote: Come on CCP, Do something...say something...let us know that your on this. Standing back and not saying anything about if this is working as intended? Get involved man because this tank spam is ruining the game. Horrible I cant even play for 3 matches before i just Cant anymore. Ok, I'll let you in on a "secret"... About half those tanks out there are there due to the other half. What I mean is someone brings out a tank. So someone else realizes that the best counter is another tanks, only you don't need a beefy high-skilled tank to kill another tank. You can just use a Militia one. Who can get out a militia tank? Just about everyone will not so many skillpoints. combine that with how cheap they are and there you have it. The arms race.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 74	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:41:00 - [14] - Quote Jadd Hatchen wrote: skippy678 wrote: Come on CCP, Do something...say something...let us know that your on this. Standing back and not saying anything about if this is working as intended? Get involved man because this tank spam is ruining the game. Horrible I cant even play for 3 matches before i just Cant anymore. Ok, I'll let you in on a "secret"... About half those tanks out there are there due to the other half. What I mean is someone brings out a tank. So someone else realizes that the best counter is another tanks, only you don't need a beefy high-skilled tank to kill another tank. You can just use a Militia one. Who can get out a militia tank? Just about everyone will not so many skillpoints. combine that with how cheap they are and there you have it. The arms race. Not "just about everyone"....EVERYone can bring out a MLT tank lol. All you need is 70k ISK and a few seconds to fit the tank.
skippy678 the.R3D.kings IMMORTAL REGIME 405	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:42:00 - [15] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: they already reduced our top speed... what more do you want? on second thought save your fingers i already know. Is it wrong of me to tthink that its no fun to walk outside the door of an objective and see 3 tanks? comon dude... Im not arguing one side or the other... All Im saying is.. This game is no longer fun for people who are not tankers. U.play.good? F.T.U. Recruiting Thread
Friendly Woodsman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 126	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:43:00 - [16] - Quote Also, CCP is on winter break. Don't expect anything till January. This message has not been approved.
Bunny Demon Scions of Athra 26	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:46:00 - [17] - Quote skippy678 wrote: Come on CCP, Do something...say something...let us know that your on this. Standing back and not saying anything about if this is working as intended? Get involved man because this tank spam is ruining the game. Horrible I cant even play for 3 matches before i just Cant anymore. Learn to only attack when you don't see those really obvious hardeners, and use your squad. Tanks go down like a Luke warm knife through cold butter, not an insta win but definitely doable (Unlike if you attack when they have hardeners and it's like cutting metal with a butter knife (as in a knife made of butter)) Donate isk to the guy above ^ (Or me, whichever you prefer)
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 965	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:47:00 - [18] - Quote skippy678 wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: don't tell me you're leaving skippy? the main problem with tanks is the quantity you can bring in. if they lower that, then the tank problem should be fixed. just stick it out a little longer. i'm sure they'll fix it. i still go on everyday , i just get off now after a couple matches....my game used to be running with a squad doing good now all the key players are spending the entire match chasing the non stop tanks evrywhere... I used to do say 10/2 most matches being a logi. now its like 10/8 with the extra 6 deaths all from tanks evrydamn match...sniping in the redline...run over by a tank...walk out of a building..hey theres 5 tanks there....bullshit If i wanted to play world of tanks i would play it, but im not im playing dust. believe me you Im a 25 millionsp player and I know you can blow up a tank but thats not the only thing i wanna spend my whole day doing...and it is...at least untill i decide that watching TV is more fun than tank514. which it is after 3 matches. sorry.. it's all good. everyone has their limits. Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
skippy678 the.R3D.kings IMMORTAL REGIME 407	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:49:00 - [19] - Quote Bunny Demon wrote: skippy678 wrote: Come on CCP, Do something...say something...let us know that your on this. Standing back and not saying anything about if this is working as intended? Get involved man because this tank spam is ruining the game. Horrible I cant even play for 3 matches before i just Cant anymore. Learn to only attack when you don't see those really obvious hardeners, and use your squad. Tanks go down like a Luke warm knife through cold butter, not an insta win but definitely doable (Unlike if you attack when they have hardeners and it's like cutting metal with a butter knife (as in a knife made of butter)) I like the positiveity. and i get the hardner thing thanks! I m just saying thats not why i wanna play this game. 100% of my time is invested in killing tanks ..no fun U.play.good? F.T.U. Recruiting Thread
sQuatch78 Ultramarine Corp 26	Posted - 2013.12.18 21:54:00 - [20] - Quote Found this is quite effective when tanks show up. 1) Grab a scout suit w 1 or 2 damps, Swarm and AV grenades 2) flank the tanks 3) giggle at the 4) use cover and get close 5) let fly with your arsenal Seriously, I don't understand why people think they can go head to head with tanks without adjust their gameplay. It is amazing how often tanks are just fixated on looking 1 direction. Tank speed seems pretty good now, imo. "We are the slayers of kings, the destroyers of worlds, bringers of ruination and death in all its forms." Cato Sicarius

Rennan Oliveira State Patriots Templis De Novo 9	Posted - 2013.12.18 22:14:00 - [21] - Quote the big deal is that the game is not supposed to be a tank hunt only.
Zimander Tickle My Null-Sac 15	Posted - 2013.12.18 22:20:00 - [22] - Quote Last night I blow out 3 tanks in 1 game took me half of the game to play cat and mouse but is passible Solution for TANK SPAM is simple CCP can put a limit for tanks in battle let say 2per team like is now with calling a total of vehicle in a team quad
Gorra Snell The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 323	Posted - 2013.12.18 22:27:00 - [23] - Quote I spend 90% of my Dust time on this toon, and that's all infantry (mostly logi, a little assault and scout). 1.7 has not made the game any more difficult or less fun for this character. I have two alts, one is skilled almost exclusively into vehicles. For the first time since I started playing, around March, this toon is tons of fun to play, and...I don't want to jinx it, but...capable of running a profit. My other alt is a heavy...it's slightly more difficult to kill tanks with my Assault Forge, but I still kill more than kill me. I really think people just need to adjust to the idea of tanks being present on the battlefield, and moving with an awareness of them. I don't want to go back to them being a weird novelty that only 10 people could run profitably. RDVs are a failed experiment - can't we just remove them from the game?
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3347	Posted - 2013.12.18 22:28:00 - [24] - Quote skippy678 wrote: Come on CCP, Do something...say something...let us know that your on this. Standing back and not saying anything about if this is working as intended? Get involved man because this tank spam is ruining the game. Horrible I cant even play for 3 matches before i just Cant anymore. Buy MLT Sica Put dual shield hardeners on it Rail Snipe. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
Ambrii Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.12.18 22:34:00 - [25] - Quote skippy678 wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: don't tell me you're leaving skippy? the main problem with tanks is the quantity you can bring in. if they lower that, then the tank problem should be fixed. just stick it out a little longer. i'm sure they'll fix it. i still go on everyday , i just get off now after a couple matches....my game used to be running with a squad doing good now all the key players are spending the entire match chasing the non stop tanks evrywhere... I used to do say 10/2 most matches being a logi. now its like 10/8 with the extra 6 deaths all from tanks evrydamn match...sniping in the redline...run over by a tank...walk out of a building..hey theres 5 tanks there....bullshit If i wanted to play world of tanks i would play it, but im not im playing dust. believe me you Im a 25 millionsp player and I know you can blow up a tank but thats not the only thing i wanna spend my whole day doing...and it is...at least untill i decide that watching TV is more fun than tank514. which it is after 3 matches. sorry.. Not a 25mil SP player myself but, as someone relatively new whom was having a blast before 1.7, I agree wholeheartedly. It's sad when movies & not playing after a few matches is a better option for an evening. Plus, what's up with the matchmaking all of a sudden like?-- last night I played 20 matches or so & my side won once. It seemed, every time, that we were matched with a full squad of protos. Probably because those can't play FW because of their FF bans. That said, I had more fun playing FW but skirmish every time gets repetitive (plus no ISK; I'm relatively new & don't have millions stashed away.)
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 243	Posted - 2013.12.18 22:38:00 - [26] - Quote The only mode that's really broken is Ambush - tanks can't hack anything, and the redzone in Domination or Skirmish should offer enough cover to get your own tanks into the match. A Sica with 2 militia damage amps can wreck the best possible tanks, it should cost you about 80K. Solved. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5024	Posted - 2013.12.18 22:40:00 - [27] - Quote Rennan Oliveira wrote: the big deal is that the game is not supposed to be a tank hunt only. Big deal is that you have had to put up with this for 9 days.....9 ******* days. Tankers put up with the bullshit for months, HTFU. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
skippy678 the.R3D.kings IMMORTAL REGIME 409	Posted - 2013.12.18 22:44:00 - [28] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Rennan Oliveira wrote: the big deal is that the game is not supposed to be a tank hunt only. Big deal is that you have had to put up with this for 9 days.....9 ******* days. Tankers put up with the bullshit for months, HTFU. two wrongs dont make a right. wise words U.play.good? F.T.U. Recruiting Thread
Dubber Rucky Silent 1nterface 8	Posted - 2013.12.18 22:56:00 - [29] - Quote All tankers want is a challenge, why make it easy on them. I try and drive bomb with remote explosive loaded dropships. Not very cost effective but worth it somehow......
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5024	Posted - 2013.12.18 22:57:00 - [30] - Quote skippy678 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Rennan Oliveira wrote: the big deal is that the game is not supposed to be a tank hunt only. Big deal is that you have had to put up with this for 9 days.....9 ******* days. Tankers put up with the bullshit for months, HTFU. two wrongs dont make a right. wise words But revenge is satisfying. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK

True Adamance Scions of Athra 5024	Posted - 2013.12.18 22:58:00 - [31] - Quote Dubber Rucky wrote: All tankers want is a challenge, why make it easy on them. I try and drive bomb with remote explosive loaded dropships. Not very cost effective but worth it somehow...... Tankers want to have fun, they want to be viable on the battlefield, they finally are now, ridiculous aspects of the game have been addressed like 400m swarm lock range, invisible avers at 50m, and OP roof top forge gunners denying any vehicle a meaningful role on the map. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 74	Posted - 2013.12.18 23:04:00 - [32] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dubber Rucky wrote: All tankers want is a challenge, why make it easy on them. I try and drive bomb with remote explosive loaded dropships. Not very cost effective but worth it somehow...... Tankers want to have fun, they want to be viable on the battlefield, they finally are now, ridiculous aspects of the game have been addressed like 400m swarm lock range, invisible avers at 50m, and OP roof top forge gunners denying any vehicle a meaningful role on the map. Try not to pretend that a Buff in Tanking isn't also responsible, I know because I do both. 10 mil tanker and 14 mil infantry spec AVer. The range + DMG drop for swarms, plus a reduction in clip size at Proto, + a damage reduction to AV grenades, combined with the Buff to Tank EHP and number of tanks results in an imbalance. I'm not crying about it personally because I blow tanks up just the same...just takes a bit of prior planning on my part, but let's not attribute it solely to one side or the other.
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5025	Posted - 2013.12.18 23:11:00 - [33] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dubber Rucky wrote: All tankers want is a challenge, why make it easy on them. I try and drive bomb with remote explosive loaded dropships. Not very cost effective but worth it somehow...... Tankers want to have fun, they want to be viable on the battlefield, they finally are now, ridiculous aspects of the game have been addressed like 400m swarm lock range, invisible avers at 50m, and OP roof top forge gunners denying any vehicle a meaningful role on the map. Try not to pretend that a Buff in Tanking isn't also responsible, I know because I do both. 10 mil tanker and 14 mil infantry spec AVer. The range + DMG drop for swarms, plus a reduction in clip size at Proto, + a damage reduction to AV grenades, combined with the Buff to Tank EHP and number of tanks results in an imbalance. I'm not crying about it personally because I blow tanks up just the same...just takes a bit of prior planning on my part, but let's not attribute it solely to one side or the other. I do both as well. Tank speed certainly needs addressing properly, possible AV buffs buf must not exceed pre 1.7 damage, the swarm lock nerf stays in place, and I see all being right with the world. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 563	Posted - 2013.12.18 23:15:00 - [34] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Reign Omega wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dubber Rucky wrote: All tankers want is a challenge, why make it easy on them. I try and drive bomb with remote explosive loaded dropships. Not very cost effective but worth it somehow...... Tankers want to have fun, they want to be viable on the battlefield, they finally are now, ridiculous aspects of the game have been addressed like 400m swarm lock range, invisible avers at 50m, and OP roof top forge gunners denying any vehicle a meaningful role on the map. Try not to pretend that a Buff in Tanking isn't also responsible, I know because I do both. 10 mil tanker and 14 mil infantry spec AVer. The range + DMG drop for swarms, plus a reduction in clip size at Proto, + a damage reduction to AV grenades, combined with the Buff to Tank EHP and number of tanks results in an imbalance. I'm not crying about it personally because I blow tanks up just the same...just takes a bit of prior planning on my part, but let's not attribute it solely to one side or the other. I do both as well. Tank speed certainly needs addressing properly, possible AV buffs buf must not exceed pre 1.7 damage, the swarm lock nerf stays in place, and I see all being right with the world. 175 range is simply not viable. Dopships laugh at you, tankers laugh at you, LAV users laugh at you. No one competitively is going to sacrifice their main weapon slot for swarms.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution 2530	Posted - 2013.12.18 23:18:00 - [35] - Quote skippy678 wrote: Come on CCP, Do something...say something...let us know that your on this. Standing back and not saying anything about if this is working as intended? Get involved man because this tank spam is ruining the game. Horrible I cant even play for 3 matches before i just Cant anymore. If you're going to be outdoors, your team needs tanks. What, do you think you're exempt from that responsibility or something? They made militia tanks cheap for a reason. Working as intended. If you refuse to use tanks, you deserve to die.
Green Living Scions of Athra 1088	Posted - 2013.12.18 23:19:00 - [36] - Quote I will be giving free laser light shows with my worthless Laser Rifle in the MCC if anyone wants to join me.
DJINN Nukem Black Phoenix Mercenaries 66	Posted - 2013.12.18 23:21:00 - [37] - Quote Panoscape wrote: Here, have some CHEESE for your wine. HTFU and grow a spine. Get a crew of forge gunners or RE guys and go tank hunting. Make tankers fear calling in a tank when you're facing them. If you don't have the SP in the right places, save up and put it there. dude I love it. +1 the only way to stop tanks is to destroy them, I dedicate most games to stop all tankers, I hope they will fear my name someday Trample The Weak Hurdle the Dead
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5028	Posted - 2013.12.18 23:24:00 - [38] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: True Adamance wrote: Reign Omega wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dubber Rucky wrote: All tankers want is a challenge, why make it easy on them. I try and drive bomb with remote explosive loaded dropships. Not very cost effective but worth it somehow...... Tankers want to have fun, they want to be viable on the battlefield, they finally are now, ridiculous aspects of the game have been addressed like 400m swarm lock range, invisible avers at 50m, and OP roof top forge gunners denying any vehicle a meaningful role on the map. Try not to pretend that a Buff in Tanking isn't also responsible, I know because I do both. 10 mil tanker and 14 mil infantry spec AVer. The range + DMG drop for swarms, plus a reduction in clip size at Proto, + a damage reduction to AV grenades, combined with the Buff to Tank EHP and number of tanks results in an imbalance. I'm not crying about it personally because I blow tanks up just the same...just takes a bit of prior planning on my part, but let's not attribute it solely to one side or the other. I do both as well. Tank speed certainly needs addressing properly, possible AV buffs buf must not exceed pre 1.7 damage, the swarm lock nerf stays in place, and I see all being right with the world. 175 range is simply not viable. Dopships laugh at you, tankers laugh at you, LAV users laugh at you. No one competitively is going to sacrifice their main weapon slot for swarms. 400m range encourages spam from impossible to hit locations. If you want to fire at us, we should be able to fire back at you. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1257	Posted - 2013.12.18 23:27:00 - [39] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: don't tell me you're leaving skippy? the main problem with tanks is the quantity you can bring in. if they lower that, then the tank problem should be fixed. just stick it out a little longer. i'm sure they'll fix it. That's one of the problems, but also the hardest to solve fairly! Sure you could limit people to 2 tanks a team, but who gets first pick? How will you limit Tank Stomping Superiority? Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 970	Posted - 2013.12.18 23:32:00 - [40] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: skippy678 wrote: Come on CCP, Do something...say something...let us know that your on this. Standing back and not saying anything about if this is working as intended? Get involved man because this tank spam is ruining the game. Horrible I cant even play for 3 matches before i just Cant anymore. Buy MLT Sica Put dual shield hardeners on it Rail Snipe. i play with skippy almost everyday, and he has no problem taking out tanks. the problem is that he, or alot of people for that matter, doesn't play this game to tank hunt. i know i didn't skill into all these weapons just to have to tank hunt all day. Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?

Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance 137	Posted - 2013.12.18 23:35:00 - [41] - Quote True Adamance wrote: 400m range encourages spam from impossible to hit locations. If you want to fire at us, we should be able to fire back at you. That is horrible logic coming from a tanker. An infantryman can't fire back at you.
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 615	Posted - 2013.12.18 23:38:00 - [42] - Quote odd OP Why not just blow them up? Hell today I killed a driver, 'decorated' his tank and then sat back to watch the fireworks when he got back "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Imp Smash Black Phoenix Mercenaries 199	Posted - 2013.12.18 23:42:00 - [43] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dubber Rucky wrote: All tankers want is a challenge, why make it easy on them. I try and drive bomb with remote explosive loaded dropships. Not very cost effective but worth it somehow...... Tankers want to have fun, they want to be viable on the battlefield, they finally are now, ridiculous aspects of the game have been addressed like 400m swarm lock range, invisible avers at 50m, and OP roof top forge gunners denying any vehicle a meaningful role on the map. Try not to pretend that a Buff in Tanking isn't also responsible, I know because I do both. 10 mil tanker and 14 mil infantry spec AVer. The range + DMG drop for swarms, plus a reduction in clip size at Proto, + a damage reduction to AV grenades, combined with the Buff to Tank EHP and number of tanks results in an imbalance. I'm not crying about it personally because I blow tanks up just the same...just takes a bit of prior planning on my part, but let's not attribute it solely to one side or the other. So this. So so this. Before you could pop an adv tank with 3 adv av grenades. That was stupid. Now you can't even pop a militia tank. That's - meh not too terrible. But then high end tanks take a lot more work. A LOT. Heck drop ships too. Drop ships sucked for sooooo long and needed love. Now it's very hard to kill one. I'm not saying one person with some av grenades should be able to solo a vehicle. Far from it - I'm glad that tanks and drops are beefy. I just think when they **** up they can get out and away a bit too fast. Nothing like sitting and taking a forge+swarms+av grenades - getting a few kills and being able to somehow escape all that concentrated av fire from multiple sources.
skippy678 the.R3D.kings IMMORTAL REGIME 414	Posted - 2013.12.19 00:38:00 - [44] - Quote i just wanna have fun playing the game. so after how many hours of jihad LAVs....... RE's..... swarms..... militia tanks...hiding in the corner..am I ok to do something else in the game? However I must say I have had several AV debates in these forums and alot of them very intelligent. And i want to throw this out there, I respect your play and image herein the forums(true adamance) but some of the statements you made in this thread left me wondering. "revenge is sweet" "we have been dealing with this for.." honestly the comments like that , make me wonder if you actually want whats best for the game, or just best for you. The bigger beta players/tankers like you ....were already stomping before 1.7! we didnt need this militia spam **** for you to have fun. I loved having a great AV fight with a strong tanker...but then again i would rather fight 1 good tanker than 9 crap ones like i do now. If you really care about the game man, you will join the communitty of player that will own whats going on right now and help fix it instead of pretending everythings hunky dory...while we loose possible player base over the holiday season because newbs couldnt last against mercs in new eden imagine what a newb feels walking into a squad of 6 tanks...they leave man. just an opinion. there is an imbalance right now big time. CCP....did my old lady call you and set this up? cuz I feel like she made this happen some how?lol U.play.good? F.T.U. Recruiting Thread
Jillian Chastot Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 5	Posted - 2013.12.19 00:39:00 - [45] - Quote Green Living wrote: Everyone head to the MCC for protection! You can still get your SP and let the tanks play with each other. God this pisses me off to no end.
Our Deepest Regret L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 411	Posted - 2013.12.19 00:40:00 - [46] - Quote HA HA HA HA HA HA! You thought you had it rough with TANKS?! Fool. Fool. FOOOOOOOOL!!! It's the dawn of the heavy. HMG's are going to carve a crimson canal from your neck to your rectum. You're going BEG to get tank spammed compared to the horrors to come, because heavies can climb stairs. You're ****-ed!
skippy678 the.R3D.kings IMMORTAL REGIME 414	Posted - 2013.12.19 00:47:00 - [47] - Quote Our Deepest Regret wrote: HA HA HA HA HA HA! You thought you had it rough with TANKS?! Fool. Fool. FOOOOOOOOL!!! It's the dawn of the heavy. HMG's are going to carve a crimson canal from your neck to your rectum. You're going BEG to get tank spammed compared to the horrors to come, because heavies can climb stairs. You're ****-ed! I have never walked through a door and run into 4 heavies...but i have walked into 4 tanks. U.play.good? F.T.U. Recruiting Thread
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 432	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:01:00 - [48] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: You mad bruh? I saw you with that missile tank, hummpfff my triple rep cannot compete with the volley your missiles do. I need to adapt, but I was enjoying murdering the little dust bunnies running about on foot ....... (Not this character but you 1 volleyd a few of my alts tanks)
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 432	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:05:00 - [49] - Quote skippy678 wrote: i just wanna have fun playing the game. so after how many hours of jihad LAVs....... RE's..... swarms..... militia tanks...hiding in the corner..am I ok to do something else in the game? However I must say I have had several AV debates in these forums and alot of them very intelligent. And i want to throw this out there, I respect your play and image herein the forums(true adamance) but some of the statements you made in this thread left me wondering. "revenge is sweet" "we have been dealing with this for.." honestly the comments like that , make me wonder if you actually want whats best for the game, or just best for you. The bigger beta players/tankers like you ....were already stomping before 1.7! we didnt need this militia spam **** for you to have fun. I loved having a great AV fight with a strong tanker...but then again i would rather fight 1 good tanker than 9 crap ones like i do now. If you really care about the game man, you will join the communitty of player that will own whats going on right now and help fix it instead of pretending everythings hunky dory...while we loose possible player base over the holiday season because newbs couldnt last against mercs in new eden imagine what a newb feels walking into a squad of 6 tanks...they leave man. just an opinion. there is an imbalance right now big time. CCP....did my old lady call you and set this up? cuz I feel like she made this happen some how?lol Mate - I have tried to get some of my mates to play DUST. A few of them did but the whole game is sqewed AGAINST new players. That isn't going to bring people in. I know we like it and all that but the whole game design is counter productive to giving new players a good time. Before it was that "I have to buy all my weapons and I lose it all if I die?" Then , "How am I meant to kill someone with more than triple (Sometimes quadruple) my health" followed by "This is stupid I am not playing this any more" Yes you can say "Gett good noob," or "Get a squad or corp noob" But seriously the game design is totally counter productive. That's if you want new players to stick around. IMHO - New players need to start with more skill points. There should be a video tutorial explaining why certain core skills are very important and they need more isk so they can play around with stuff more. That would be for starters.
Meknow Intaki 43	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:06:00 - [50] - Quote when you can fully fit a basic blaster tank for under 70k why not spam them... 70k is cheaper then a lot of my drop suit fits

True Adamance Scions of Athra 5033	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:11:00 - [51] - Quote skippy678 wrote: "revenge is sweet" "we have been dealing with this for.." honestly the comments like that , make me wonder if you actually want whats best for the game, or just best for you. Yeah I do, and I was stomping infantry like you before 1.7.... However revenge, justice must be done, Amarr Victor and all that ****..... Nerfing tanks however is not what is best of this game. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Yeeuuuppp clone-B Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 0	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:19:00 - [52] - Quote Honestly, CCP sees these threads everyday. They don't even care anymore. Earlier there was 6 enemy tanks. I called my rail gun tank in and killed a few and when I got bored i ran aroun with remote explosives chasing the tanks. I SINGLE HANDEDLY DESTROYEDD ALL THE TANKS. Try going av before bitching on the forums.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1262	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:36:00 - [53] - Quote Yeeuuuppp clone-B wrote: Honestly, CCP sees these threads everyday. They don't even care anymore. Earlier there was 6 enemy tanks. I called my rail gun tank in and killed a few and when I got bored i ran aroun with remote explosives chasing the tanks. I SINGLE HANDEDLY DESTROYEDD ALL THE TANKS. Try going av before bitching on the forums. A tank is not AV it is a TANK Remote Explosives are pretty much the only thing that can do enough damage before someone turns on the hardners! Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 985	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:36:00 - [54] - Quote Yeeuuuppp clone-B wrote: Honestly, CCP sees these threads everyday. They don't even care anymore. Earlier there was 6 enemy tanks. I called my rail gun tank in and killed a few and when I got bored i ran aroun with remote explosives chasing the tanks. I SINGLE HANDEDLY DESTROYEDD ALL THE TANKS. Try going av before bitching on the forums. you're not very bright, are you? read some of the posts before commenting dumbass. he DOES go AV. ALMOST 24/7 NOW. fcking r.etarded... Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?*
skippy678 the.R3D.kings IMMORTAL REGIME 437	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:44:00 - [55] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: Yeeuuuppp clone-B wrote: Honestly, CCP sees these threads everyday. They don't even care anymore. Earlier there was 6 enemy tanks. I called my rail gun tank in and killed a few and when I got bored i ran aroun with remote explosives chasing the tanks. I SINGLE HANDEDLY DESTROYEDD ALL THE TANKS. Try going av before bitching on the forums. you're not very bright, are you? read some of the posts before commenting dumbass. he DOES go AV. ALMOST 24/7 NOW. f*cking r.etarded... Thanks Tranq...i started writing a response to the post and then just didn't. but im glad you did. U.play.good? F.T.U. Recruiting Thread
jerrmy12 kahoalii The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 153	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:45:00 - [56] - Quote skippy678 wrote: Come on CCP, Do something...say something...let us know that your on this. Standing back and not saying anything about if this is working as intended? Get involved man because this tank spam is ruining the game. Horrible I cant even play for 3 matches before i just Cant anymore. hmm, i prefer tank spam over proto cubs because i have a chance of winning recuruit link 5 to 11 mil isk per 100k recuruit
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 3423	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:45:00 - [57] - Quote I agree. The tank spam is ***** ****. It's not that I can't blow up tanks. I can (Mlt sica OP) It's that it's BORING AS TRYING TO KILL TANKS ALL *** GAME EVERYGAME! It's simply not fun GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 3** \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
skippy678 the.R3D.kings IMMORTAL REGIME 437	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:47:00 - [58] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: I agree. The tank spam is ***** ****. It's not that I can't blow up tanks. I can (Mlt sica OP) It's that it's BORING AS TRYING TO KILL TANKS ALL ***** GAME EVERYGAME! It's simply not fun EXACTLY! U.play.good? F.T.U. Recruiting Thread
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5034	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:48:00 - [59] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: I agree. The tank spam is ***** ****. It's not that I can't blow up tanks. I can (Mlt sica OP) It's that it's BORING AS TRYING TO KILL TANKS ALL ***** GAME EVERYGAME! It's simply not fun Don't bother with us, we will kill each other first and foremost....just run and hide if your teams tanks loose..... To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
echo47 Minmatar Republic 122	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:50:00 - [60] - Quote True Adamance wrote: echo47 wrote: True Adamance wrote: skippy678 wrote: Come on CCP, Do something...say something...let us know that your on this. Standing back and not saying anything about if this is working as intended? Get involved man because this tank spam is ruining the game. Horrible I cant even play for 3 matches before i just Cant anymore. Call in your own MLT tank and clear them out? couple that with friendly AV fire? All are useful ideas. Same response from AV when they advised tankers to use support and not run solo. How did that work out for you? We became usable? I don't see how you can compare 1.6 to 1.7 since at 50 m you people were invisible you swarms could lock across half the map, and FG were so devastating one tower forgegunner killed the entire vehicle aspect of this game.... Not comparing just saying this was the advice given to takers at the time. And everything you just said was true. I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.

Ivy Zalinto Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd 185	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:55:00 - [61] - Quote Tanks pose very little threat to a person with a decent train of thought. Im so drunk right now I can barely aim my rail rifle and ive killed three tanks in faction war for caldari tonight. Idk who those people were, or if they were friendly or not but as i havent been banned im assuming theiy were nt blue's. Seriously, learn to avoid the tanks or quitcha bitchin about where they are... On a side note, whiskey + railrifle = alot of laughs wondering why you cant hit them. Dedicated scout. New player tutor; scout instructor Scrambler Pistol dedication
Seeth Mensch 2Shitz 1Giggle 86	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:56:00 - [62] - Quote sQuatch78 wrote: Found this is quite effective when tanks show up. 1) Grab a scout suit w 1 or 2 damps, Swarm and AV grenades 2) flank the tanks 3) giggle at the 4) use cover and get close 5) let fly with your arsenal Seriously, I don't understand why people think they can go head to head with tanks without adjust their gameplay. It is amazing how often tanks are just fixated on looking 1 direction. Tank speed seems pretty good now, imo. I have been doing all that for several months now. In fact, my fave fit is adv swarm, AV nade and submachine gun. I did harm to tanks before, and occasionally took one out. Now? There's so damn many tanks that it's ridiculous. I just run from point to point, take it and go. When I shoot one, they harden up and run away, while their 3 friends come in. I don't mind dealing with a few tanks, I really don't. It's just...boring. I want a tight gun game, and to have fun. I want to exploit weaknesses. Maybe if I could empty my swarm payload quickly...but they get thumped once, and then I better have cover because I'll die. It's ridiculous. I don't blame tankers for using what CCP has given them. I just want a game that is a bit more welcoming. Last example: I play gunner a lot, and in an ambush today I killed one guy...as the next spawned in to die, and then next and the next...I ran out of ammo because they kept leaping like lemmings in. I didn't intend to camp, but who would deny being fed points? I'll bet those guys were ticked, though. We didn't really get touched, and we sat there. Because this is a game, there has to be some sort of "fairness" that isn't inherent in the real world. That "fairness" happens, and suddenly we are having fun, win or lose. /rant Hi! Gosh, I've missed you...with every bullet, plasma shot, rail gun, and missile.
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 3425	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:57:00 - [63] - Quote True Adamance wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: I agree. The tank spam is ***** ****. It's not that I can't blow up tanks. I can (Mlt sica OP) It's that it's BORING AS TRYING TO KILL TANKS ALL *** GAME EVERYGAME! It's simply not fun Don't bother with us, we will kill each other first and foremost....just run and hide if your teams tanks loose..... Lol worst advise ever. Yup avoid tanks... Let my blues get raped and lose the match great advise. NO! If I don't help, we'll get demolished via the 6 tanks on enemy side. GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 3** \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4228	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:58:00 - [64] - Quote Ivy Zalinto wrote: Tanks pose very little threat to a person with a decent train of thought. Im so drunk right now I can barely aim my rail rifle and ive killed three tanks in faction war for caldari tonight. Idk who those people were, or if they were friendly or not but as i havent been banned im assuming theiy were nt blue's. Seriously, learn to avoid the tanks or quitcha bitchin about where they are... On a side note, whiskey + railrifle = alot of laughs wondering why you cant hit them. You're aware the Rail Rifle is an infantry weapon, treated as small arms, and does so little damage to tanks that it gets literally ignored by them, right? You're still drunk, aren't you? Tanks as in HAVs, not just heavily-tanked Dropsuits. Unless you mean Railgun, which is a vehicle-mounted weapon and therefore not infantry AV, which is where people claim there is a problem.
Ferocitan WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 93	Posted - 2013.12.19 03:16:00 - [65] - Quote Course of games. 1 tanks go out to kill turrets to be able to roam freely. Only troopmovement is restricted if they get cought in a Dropship. 2 they kill other tanks and Av got work. Troops have got spawnpoints and objectives up and gotten a foothold. 3.A few roaming tanks might keep running around untill our ISK refunds run dry. Troops now got the immediate threat to nw tanks vs troops. Troops do the winning with group movement and mixing up av/anti personell weapons. I would repeat again. I got 150 mill Isk to burn that I got refunded. So far I might lose 0-2mill on vehicles enjoying while the ISK last. People have to much monies to care if they lose tanks. I called in 4 450k tanks to my squadmates to test out some protofitted tanks. None survived I think. Anotyer fix might b: make every militia gear a bit worse worse in stats and not just cpu/pgu req. Leaving these "OP" rail sicas not so OP. Blaster tanks not able to hit that far and for far less damage so troop can take a few shots extra to flee or get an extra AV shot off?
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5046	Posted - 2013.12.19 03:34:00 - [66] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: True Adamance wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: I agree. The tank spam is ***** ****. It's not that I can't blow up tanks. I can (Mlt sica OP) It's that it's BORING AS TRYING TO KILL TANKS ALL ***** GAME EVERYGAME! It's simply not fun Don't bother with us, we will kill each other first and foremost....just run and hide if your teams tanks loose..... Lol worst advise ever. Yup avoid tanks... Let my blues get raped and lose the match great advise. NO! If I don't help, we'll get demolished via the 6 tanks on enemy side. Well I don't expect you to follow it, I don't bother with tanks because its simple enough to hit the central objectives and control the internals of structures whenever I play on foot, then its just a matter of dropshipping to the next objective, taking it, and the extracting if possible to whichever point we can. I figure in vehicles as fundamental aspects of any game, not just threats and add on content that ruins infantry combat, it focuses it and refines encounters into more epic experiences. E.G- Saw a Soma milling about in the open, I remoted him and ran off feeling very self satisfied. Another time I dropped from a Dropship onto the objective which had a tank present, we stacked up a well organised fall back point and uplinks, then dropped down into the objective on the opposite side the tank was one, captured it, and proceeded to hold the point until a friendly tanker pulled up, tried to run, anddrew the enemy tank off. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2155	Posted - 2013.12.19 05:55:00 - [67] - Quote echo47 wrote: True Adamance wrote: skippy678 wrote: Come on CCP, Do something...say something...let us know that your on this. Standing back and not saying anything about if this is working as intended? Get involved man because this tank spam is ruining the game. Horrible I cant even play for 3 matches before i just Cant anymore. Call in your own MLT tank and clear them out? couple that with friendly AV fire? All are useful ideas. Same response from AV when they advised tankers to use support and not run solo. How did that work out for you? used support for over six months "He shouldve realized at that point I was lying as I'd already had my morning poo and I don't read newspapers." CB Vet
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 329	Posted - 2013.12.19 09:33:00 - [68] - Quote True Adamance wrote: echo47 wrote: True Adamance wrote: skippy678 wrote: Come on CCP, Do something...say something...let us know that your on this. Standing back and not saying anything about if this is working as intended? Get involved man because this tank spam is ruining the game. Horrible I cant even play for 3 matches before i just Cant anymore. Call in your own MLT tank and clear them out? couple that with friendly AV fire? All are useful ideas. Same response from AV when they advised tankers to use support and not run solo. How did that work out for you? We became usable? I don't see how you can compare 1.6 to 1.7 since at 50 m you people were invisible you swarms could lock across half the map, and FG were so devastating one tower forgegunner killed the entire vehicle aspect of this game.... And yet somehow you guys were always managing to go 30/0 per match in spite of your terrible handicaps ...
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1986	Posted - 2013.12.19 12:44:00 - [69] - Quote Green Living wrote: Everyone head to the MCC for protection! You can still get your SP and let the tanks play with each other. I support this Infantry firing ARs at me or throwing swarms at my glowing gunlogi are an annoyance Tanks fights is where its at Intelligence is OP
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 438	Posted - 2013.12.19 18:26:00 - [70] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: I agree. The tank spam is ***** ****. It's not that I can't blow up tanks. I can (Mlt sica OP) It's that it's BORING AS TRYING TO KILL TANKS ALL ***** GAME EVERYGAME! It's simply not fun I find it fun personally. However I agree tanks really have taken over dust. Its fine on the more urban type maps but on the open area ones it is a little crazy.

Toxxikcity Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy 23	Posted - 2013.12.19 18:46:00 - [71] - Quote Panoscape wrote: Here, have some CHEESE for your wine. HTFU and grow a spine. Get a crew of forge gunners or RE guys and go tank hunting. Make tankers fear calling in a tank when you're facing them. If you don't have the SP in the right places, save up and put it there. Thats all well and good IF you skilled into being a heavy... however most mercenaries i run with are medium and light fit so to get CCP to do something maybe all non heavies should BOYCOTT THE GAME until they do something about it
Andius Fidelitas The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 106	Posted - 2013.12.19 18:55:00 - [72] - Quote Learn to fight within the confines of buildings. I have seen a squadron of smart AV infantry use buildings as effective cover, negating the advantage of tanks. And yes, this is a squadron of 6 that actually held off 5-7 tanks of diverse types effectively.


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