DUST Search - Are the Gallente as honorable as most Dust players seem to think?

Jacques Cayton II wrote:

Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

Jacques Cayton II wrote:

Dagger-Two wrote:

The Gallente spied on the Caldari?!

While Heth, the man who wanted to murder every Gallentean in sight, was in power!!??

AND THE TWO NATIONS WERE AT WAR!!?!?!?!?!

Say it ain't so!

The Gallente made some Caldari men and women like this by their unjust taking of Caldari Prime and the way they treated the civilian populace on Caldari world's. The gallente have brung this war to themselves for not getting out of Caldari space after the first war. We Caldari will stand against your vast war machine and stop your corrupt ways from affecting our people. My children will remain honorfull and will not disrespect their elders. While your children run amok and commit crimes and do drugs.

Unjust?

Clearly we should sit idly by while you raze our cities, and kill every last man, woman and child in them.

What the templis dragonaors done was out of line but the state had no part in those actions. What your federation done was bombard our homeland in hopes we would surrender. We didn't and it costs both sides millions of lives. Your federation did exactly what the templis dragonaors wanted and paid the price by gaining nothing. Your own navy crashed a ship into Ishukone headquarters which is why we are at war now. One difference though it was done by the Federations navy. Only difference in this war but we gained our homeland back. We will never forget what your people have done.

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DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9030	Posted - 2013.12.17 18:29:00 - [31] - Quote Kristoff Atruin wrote: You guys wouldn't support the NSA would you? Believe it or not, this is a video game. Shocking, I know. Vids / O7
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1462	Posted - 2013.12.17 18:31:00 - [32] - Quote EVE is real
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 6373	Posted - 2013.12.17 18:48:00 - [33] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Dagger-Two wrote: The Gallente spied on the Caldari?! While Heth, the man who wanted to murder every Gallentean in sight, was in power!!?? AND THE TWO NATIONS WERE AT WAR!!?!?!?!?! Say it ain't so! The Gallente made some Caldari men and women like this by their unjust taking of Caldari Prime and the way they treated the civilian populace on Caldari world's. The gallente have brung this war to themselves for not getting out of Caldari space after the first war. We Caldari will stand against your vast war machine and stop your corrupt ways from affecting our people. My children will remain honorfull and will not disrespect their elders. While your children run amok and commit crimes and do drugs. Unjust? Clearly we should sit idly by while you raze our cities, and kill every last man, woman and child in them. Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3639	Posted - 2013.12.17 19:33:00 - [34] - Quote Dagger-Two wrote: If both sides actually stopped their petty bickering and talked peace, things might be different. Things were looking promising for peace for a second but then those terrorist attacks happened and tree everything out of wack. and No, neither side were responsible, **** just happened. And the Right-Winged government that took over The Gallente Federation was under at the time due to the attack wanted blind vengeance and started conflict and propaganda and dismantling the citizens rights with their intelligence gathering. Damn, sounds so familiar. (another reason why I was drawn to the Gallente) Sadly we're still trying to get rid of some of the negative residue from the former right wing.
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard EVE Alliance 20131217 319	Posted - 2013.12.17 21:55:00 - [35] - Quote Dagger-Two wrote: You know Cayton, there are plenty of thugs and drug abusers in the State if you just take a peek down the corporate ladder. The initial attack on Caldari Prime was exaggerated, yes. Nouvelle Rouvenor was a terrible act done by terrorists, and not the State. Unfortunately, it was enough to push people over the edge, a hardline right-wing government came to power in the Federation and wanted blood. But so was the placing of a Leviathan above the planet 5 years ago, threatening to kill every Gallentean below. The Caldari home planet lies unfortunately in the heart of the Federation, so as long as the Caldari are a hostile entity, it will be a security risk. If both sides actually stopped their petty bickering and talked peace, things might be different. I agree but that titan was their because we know what you would have done if it wasn't there. And as far as criminal acts their is far less in the state than the Federation We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard EVE Alliance 20131217 319	Posted - 2013.12.17 22:02:00 - [36] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Dagger-Two wrote: The Gallente spied on the Caldari?! While Heth, the man who wanted to murder every Gallentean in sight, was in power!!?? AND THE TWO NATIONS WERE AT WAR!!?!?!?!?! Say it ain't so! The Gallente made some Caldari men and women like this by their unjust taking of Caldari Prime and the way they treated the civilian populace on Caldari world's. The gallente have brung this war to themselves for not getting out of Caldari space after the first war. We Caldari will stand against your vast war machine and stop your corrupt ways from affecting our people. My children will remain honorfull and will not disrespect their elders. While your children run amok and commit crimes and do drugs. Unjust? Clearly we should sit idly by while you raze our cities, and kill every last man, woman and child in them. What the templis dragonaors done was out of line but the state had no part in those actions. What your federation done was bombard our homeland in hopes we would surrender. We didn't and it costs both sides millions of lives. Your federation did exactly what the templis dragonaors wanted and paid the price by gaining nothing. Your own navy crashed a ship into Ishukone headquarters which is why we are at war now. One difference though it was done by the Federations navy. Only difference in this war but we gained our homeland back. We will never forget what your people have done. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Vulcanus Lightbringer Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 120	Posted - 2013.12.17 22:08:00 - [37] - Quote I care not of politics, or the interests more civilized men. I care about making every last Amarr suffer for what they did to my people, and if that means I have to fraternize with wretched scum then so be it. (RP'ing is fun!)
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard EVE Alliance 20131217 319	Posted - 2013.12.17 22:12:00 - [38] - Quote I support my allies. I may not like what they do but I support them nonetheless We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Sgt Buttscratch 1171	Posted - 2013.12.17 22:32:00 - [39] - Quote We'll be doing more than breaching borders soon enough, hide yo kids!!! Caldari scum I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 6374	Posted - 2013.12.17 22:36:00 - [40] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Dagger-Two wrote: The Gallente spied on the Caldari?! While Heth, the man who wanted to murder every Gallentean in sight, was in power!!?? AND THE TWO NATIONS WERE AT WAR!!?!?!?!?! Say it ain't so! The Gallente made some Caldari men and women like this by their unjust taking of Caldari Prime and the way they treated the civilian populace on Caldari world's. The gallente have brung this war to themselves for not getting out of Caldari space after the first war. We Caldari will stand against your vast war machine and stop your corrupt ways from affecting our people. My children will remain honorfull and will not disrespect their elders. While your children run amok and commit crimes and do drugs. Unjust? Clearly we should sit idly by while you raze our cities, and kill every last man, woman and child in them. What the templis dragonaors done was out of line but the state had no part in those actions. What your federation done was bombard our homeland in hopes we would surrender. We didn't and it costs both sides millions of lives. Your federation did exactly what the templis dragonaors wanted and paid the price by gaining nothing. Your own navy crashed a ship into Ishukone headquarters which is why we are at war now. One difference though it was done by the Federations navy. Only difference in this war but we gained our homeland back. We will never forget what your people have done. We will never forget what you did to us either. Nouvelle Rouvenor is hardly the only atrocity you've committed. Every act of war on our part has been in retribution for something else you've done. Your homeland? It's populated primarily by Gallenteans, and has been a sovereign world of the Federation for over 200 years. That's hardly your homeland. Parking a titan in orbit and threatening to glass every single person on every planet in the system? Show me what we've done that comes anywhere close to that. Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'

Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard EVE Alliance 20131217 320	Posted - 2013.12.17 23:45:00 - [41] - Quote Name one more act of treacherous acts than nouvelle. We are a respectful people and our homeland was mostly Caldari before you took it federation dog We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9067	Posted - 2013.12.17 23:52:00 - [42] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Name one more act of treacherous acts than nouvelle. We are a respectful people and our homeland was mostly Caldari before you took it federation dog Think of Caldari prime like our living room, and the Caldari people like a cockroach infestation What else would you have us do? Vids / O7
True Adamance Scions of Athra 4988	Posted - 2013.12.17 23:56:00 - [43] - Quote Dagger-Two wrote: You know Cayton, there are plenty of thugs and drug abusers in the State if you just take a peek down the corporate ladder. The initial attack on Caldari Prime was exaggerated, yes. Nouvelle Rouvenor was a terrible act done by terrorists, and not the State. Unfortunately, it was enough to push people over the edge, a hardline right-wing government came to power in the Federation and wanted blood. But so was the placing of a Leviathan above the planet 5 years ago, threatening to kill every Gallentean below. The Caldari home planet lies unfortunately in the heart of the Federation, so as long as the Caldari are a hostile entity, it will be a security risk. If both sides actually stopped their petty bickering and talked peace, things might be different. Are you talking about Leithe? A Crystal Egg Addicted Civre of the disassociated caste? Yeah he's the prime example. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
DeadlyAztec11 2816	Posted - 2013.12.18 00:14:00 - [44] - Quote We may be depraved and we may commit atrocities, but we do so with honor and intercity. That is the Gallante way. »We still have our honor!
True Adamance Scions of Athra 4989	Posted - 2013.12.18 00:15:00 - [45] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: We may be depraved and we may commit atrocities, but we do so with honor and intercity. That is the Gallante way. The mandate of the righteous is fine thing is it now Aztec? The Gallente and Amarr do have far to much in common, but sit at other ends of the spectrum from one another. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 1685	Posted - 2013.12.18 00:26:00 - [46] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Is America as honorable? Sheesh. Even when I started I wasn't dumb enough to believe are hands were clean. not only are OUR hands not clean. OUR command of OUR own language is terrible.... stop the lol bans in FW.... instead make teamkillers purple! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=129910&fi
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard EVE Alliance 20131217 321	Posted - 2013.12.18 00:39:00 - [47] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire must be looking for more Caldari atrocities other than nouvelle. It would be hard since their are none but I could name a few the gallente have done just from the top of my head. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
DeadlyAztec11 2817	Posted - 2013.12.18 00:59:00 - [48] - Quote True Adamance wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: We may be depraved and we may commit atrocities, but we do so with honor and integrity. That is the Gallante way. The mandate of the righteous is fine thing is it now Aztec? The Gallente and Amarr do have far to much in common, but sit at other ends of the spectrum from one another. We do not assert that our way is the only way, nor the best way. It is simply how we choose to live. We are conscious of our flaws, but together we hope to perfect ourselves. Though we remain humble in the fact that we can never achieve it. The best thing is that not everyone has to choose this path. We are all free to act how we choose, all suffering the consequences, whether in this life or the next. »We still have our honor!
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard EVE Alliance 20131217 322	Posted - 2013.12.18 01:04:00 - [49] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: True Adamance wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: We may be depraved and we may commit atrocities, but we do so with honor and integrity. That is the Gallante way. The mandate of the righteous is fine thing is it now Aztec? The Gallente and Amarr do have far to much in common, but sit at other ends of the spectrum from one another. We do not assert that our way is the only way, nor the best way. It is simply how we choose to live. You do assert your way look at the Minmatar. Also the war with the Caldari which is fought because of you pushing your ways on another race We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
DeadlyAztec11 2817	Posted - 2013.12.18 01:34:00 - [50] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: True Adamance wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: We may be depraved and we may commit atrocities, but we do so with honor and integrity. That is the Gallante way. The mandate of the righteous is fine thing is it now Aztec? The Gallente and Amarr do have far to much in common, but sit at other ends of the spectrum from one another. We do not assert that our way is the only way, nor the best way. It is simply how we choose to live. You do assert your way look at the Minmatar. Also the war with the Caldari which is fought because of you pushing your ways on another race The Caldari-Gallante war was a result of paranoia and terrorist attacks, that were wrongfully avenged on the innocent. And the Federation could not simply allow the Caldari to leave. Doing so would have weakened the control of the central federal bureaucracy. No. When you look back at it, it was for the best. If we wouldn't have fought them, we would be weaker today. The war modernized our militaries faster than anybody could have imagined. If both of our empires didn't have strong warriors than we would have gotten overrun by the Amarr a long time ago. Funny when you think about it. »We still have our honor!

Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard EVE Alliance 20131217 322	Posted - 2013.12.18 01:42:00 - [51] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: True Adamance wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: We may be depraved and we may commit atrocities, but we do so with honor and integrity. That is the Gallante way. The mandate of the righteous is fine thing is it now Aztec? The Gallente and Amarr do have far to much in common, but sit at other ends of the spectrum from one another. We do not assert that our way is the only way, nor the best way. It is simply how we choose to live. You do assert your way look at the Minmatar. Also the war with the Caldari which is fought because of you pushing your ways on another race The Caldari-Gallante war was a result of paranoia and terrorist attacks, that were wrongfully avenged on the innocent. And the Federation could not simply allow the Caldari to leave. Doing so would have weakened the control of the central federal bureaucracy. No. When you look back at it, it was for the best. If we wouldn't have fought them, we would be weaker today. The war modernized our militaries faster than anybody could have imagined. If both of our empires didn't have strong warriors than we would have gotten overrun by the Amarr a long time ago. Funny when you think about it. The reason why terrorist attacked the way they did was because of the gallente pushing their ways on someone who doesn't want them. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
DeadlyAztec11 2817	Posted - 2013.12.18 02:00:00 - [52] - Quote That's not how I recall the story, Jacques. The way I heard it told was that the Caldari wanted more privileges at the federal level than any of the other cultures. Holding secret colonies isn't cool, not when everybody else was open with what they were doing. If a company was found to be even half as troubling in the State as the Caldari were in the Federation, well that company would be liquefied without any hesitation. I'm still of the school of thought that we should have just tried to economically destabilize the State through causing tension between the corporations. Then sweep in and clean house when they had no time to prepare. I don't know why the Federation dislikes a tactical approach. Well that was then. We are in the now. No point in being upset about old mistakes. Look forward and to the sky. That is the Gallante way. »We still have our honor!
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard EVE Alliance 20131217 322	Posted - 2013.12.18 02:28:00 - [53] - Quote I respect you but your people have wronged us. In the beginning we thought it mutual to join but soon regretted it. We wished to leave your people would have surely said no. So we operated to create a new home elsewhere. We would have left you alone in peace if a certain group had not taken their own actions. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3655	Posted - 2013.12.18 02:33:00 - [54] - Quote Its hard to argue against people that dont know lore well.
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard EVE Alliance 20131217 322	Posted - 2013.12.18 02:47:00 - [55] - Quote What's wrong with my interpretation? The Gallente found our colonies we put ships up to keep you from taking them, then you blockaded Caldari Prime, and templis dragonaors bombed nouvelle We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
True Adamance Scions of Athra 4997	Posted - 2013.12.18 02:52:00 - [56] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Its hard to argue against people that dont know lore well. Now you know how I feel when I try to explain the nature of the Amarr is not simply one of Machiavellian moustache twirling empresses, 1984 style big brother societies, and bogeymen who live in cupboards and under beds.... To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Goric Rumis Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 255	Posted - 2013.12.18 03:01:00 - [57] - Quote Simply put: Everybody is bad. The four imperial factions are generally terrible and the pirate factions are terrible and the Jove and Sansha are evil and the Sleeper machines just want to kill everybody. There are no "good guys" in New Eden. Why do you think there are no "legal" repercussions for in-game scams and hostile takeovers? Because everybody's just trying to get their piece.
True Adamance Scions of Athra 4999	Posted - 2013.12.18 03:07:00 - [58] - Quote Goric Rumis wrote: Simply put: Everybody is bad. The four imperial factions are generally terrible and the pirate factions are terrible and the Jove and Sansha are evil and the Sleeper machines just want to kill everybody. There are no "good guys" in New Eden. Why do you think there are no "legal" repercussions for in-game scams and hostile takeovers? Because everybody's just trying to get their piece. Sure there are good guys, just depends on how indoctrinated you are to their cultural outlooks. I mean initially I just liked the Amarr aesthetic, now I cannot imagine ever harming the empire, etc and I honestly believe IN NEW EDEN (not IRL) the Amarr are doing the right thing. Unifying mankind one way or another, either under their banner, or against them. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
DeadlyAztec11 2819	Posted - 2013.12.18 03:18:00 - [59] - Quote Goric Rumis wrote: Simply put: Everybody is bad. The four imperial factions are generally terrible and the pirate factions are terrible and the Jove and Sansha are evil and the Sleeper machines just want to kill everybody. There are no "good guys" in New Eden. Why do you think there are no "legal" repercussions for in-game scams and hostile takeovers? Because everybody's just trying to get their piece. That is not really fair to say. It is like saying **** Germany was completely bad. Nope. They did a lot of bad things but they did a lot of right things. -Jet Engine -Discovered the extreme limits of the human body in a scientific method -Banned smoking -Promoted exercise -Promoted education -Brought the German economy back to an unstoppable expansion Now don't take me wrong, they were a lot worse than they were good, but humans are imperfect beings we can never be pure evil nor pure good. Also the lack of trade enforced by law is not evil in in of itself. Early modern civilizations traded with each other without any type of third party enforcer. So none of the Empire's are evil, except maybe Sansha and even then Sansha is doing what he's doing because he thinks he is helping society as a whole, he is wrong but that is that. As for the Sleepers, well we don't know their intentions since we have never really consulted one. Chances are that their machines are operating on millennium old orders to protect their space. »We still have our honor!
Mac Dac Wraith Shadow Guards D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 362	Posted - 2013.12.18 03:23:00 - [60] - Quote for me the merc quarters were just somthing different from the standard caldari quarters we had all beta. Truth be told i was originally minmatar but when they added in the racial quarters i was like "WTF this s*** got no walls just GD pipes everywhere." I mean come on the consoles in the minmatar quarters don't even look like the belong at all. tis the only reason i am gallante. "We should take care not to make intellect our god; it has, of course, strong muscles, but no personality" Albert Einste



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