+1, but then the only problem would be that those who have died once the clone count reaches zero would be stuck waiting for the match to end. This already happens, and it is very annoying :3

Yes it is. One day I hope to be able to view that mercenary in camera mode as we sit and wait. Would get everyone on comm's routing for one side or the other.

Also allow for massive learning potential to someone not fully comfortable with DUST to watch different playstyles of players.

Would be cool looking from the Big overall map and be able to select a mercenary to first person view.

until then Ambush truly being last man standing and a simple view of the overall map is enough for me to wait knowing that they might potentially pull out the win.

Unfortunately stuff like that is far away from Dust. It even took Dice (or whoever designed the game) until BF4 to introduce that, who KNOWS how long it'll take Dust. That would be a very neat and good idea though

+1 for both, one of the most unique amazing factors of this game is the whole explanation around clones. More emphasis on this premise would only enhance this experience in DUST 514. As a Minmatar Logistics, I hate getting yelled at or feeling guilty for sacrificing a players score using my equipment to try and save that player money. This would allow me to fulfill my role of a Logistics much better, making the need to even use my gun less and less.. Which is truly what i feel Logistics are for, to revive, heal and support while slayer classes work their craft.

Any meaning to ambush for a Logistics, like the last man standing recommendation with clones feeling actually important will make that game mode a lot more exciting. As Ambush is currently for myself and my role, it isn't as enjoyable as Domination and Skirmish game modes where the pursuit of the win is an involved process.

Who here gives a **** about their K/D? I sure as hell don't.

-This would fix needle spam pick up's and make them relevant as it could extend your clone termination timer, And would preserve player's raged about "KD/R's" and actually have them asking for a pick up as it would save their suit investment ISK.

Also will give an awesome dynamic for players to finish off "Downed" mercenaries to make sure they are truly dead.

I think the player that "Downed" the Mercenary should get credit for a kill. However the "Downed" Mercenary should not get penalized for a death until his clone is officially terminated.

Obviously there would have to be safe guard's put in place to prevent farming, Might i suggest a TKO rule where 3 "downs" in a 10 second window and your clone is lost? I'm sure you guy's have a good developer's bag of trick's to use for safeguards better then my suggestion.


-As it is slightly connected but would improve Ambush competition and the game mode massively. Mercenaries spawning into Ambush modes uses up one of the clones from the 50,80 totals. And it is the last man standing wins.

Often in Ambush one side will reach 0 clones before the other... Then the fight will continue until only one side is alive... Often the loosing side will pull together at the end and clone out the winning side before the match end's only to receive a loss. If every clone counted in Ambush and it was truly last man standing.. The game mode would really shine again.


Thanks for your consideration,
Bethy

Wholly agree with the needle point.

Disagree with at the ambush change because you'll get people (like me!) who are the last ones standing in a proto-pubstomp and are running away to save a suit. If I hide the game will go on indefinitely, and if there's a timer then it's what we have now.

The 15 minute timer in Ambush should always be present In my opinion, possibly leaving a "match draw" option if two are still left.

I would much rather Omniscient sight granted when there is only a 1vs1 left So those two people can find each other quick and easy and enjoy the true 1vs1 dynamic pulling out the Match Win in a clutch performance. Thus creating memorable experiences and moment's in DUST.

The 15 minute timer in Ambush should always be present In my opinion, possibly leaving a "match draw" option if two are still left.

I would much rather Omniscient sight granted when there is only a 1vs1 left So those two people can find each other quick and easy and enjoy the true 1vs1 dynamic pulling out the Match Win in a clutch performance. Thus creating memorable experiences and moment's in DUST.

I would much rather Omniscient sight granted when there is only a 1vs1 left So those two people can find each other quick and easy and enjoy the true 1vs1 dynamic pulling out the Match Win in a clutch performance. Thus creating memorable experiences and moment's in DUST.

If it does get down to 1v1 tho, whats to stop one player from hiding from the other, especially if they believe they are weaker. Good Lord, I've spent too much time with Goonswarm, the first thing I think about any tactic is how to abuse it, lol.

Who here gives a **** about their K/D? I sure as hell don't.

Omniscient meaning both players can see each other permanently as soon as it get's to that player count. Allowing for one player to chase the other one down, or both players to go for the win and many other options. Allowing for a lot of different dynamic's but counterable by all parties.

This of course may be more complicated on CCP's developing end then my biased gamer mind could comprehend, but I would hope it do-able.

I'm not against the idea, I'd actually be for it, if not for the ability to abuse the system and waste people's time. Think 3 heavy forge gunners set up shop atop a tall building. Who wants to call in a dropship and try and get them off? Not I. Or a scout suit running away from a heavy (around objects, keeping the divide always between the two).

If you figure out a way to stop stuff like that, then I'm all in for the idea.

I believe battlefield uses the system you propose, (being revived erases your death). Pro's and Con's I suppose.


If you defeat a player 1v1 it's simple, you get 1 kill, he gets 1 death. If he is revived, healed to 100% comes at you again, and loses again, shouldn't he have 2 deaths? He fairly lost 2 engagements. The only issue is getting shot 1 second after being revived. What's really fair here?


Here is my solution: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1488496#post1488496

Along with other improvements to the Nanite Injector, I would make it so for 10 seconds after you are revived, you are still on the same 'life'. If you are re-killed within 10 seconds of a revive, there will be no death or kill added to either players records.

I believe battlefield uses the system you propose, (being revived erases your death). Pro's and Con's I suppose.


If you defeat a player 1v1 it's simple, you get 1 kill, he gets 1 death. If he is revived, healed to 100% comes at you again, and loses again, shouldn't he have 2 deaths? He fairly lost 2 engagements. The only issue is getting shot 1 second after being revived. What's really fair here?


Here is my solution: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1488496#post1488496

Along with other improvements to the Nanite Injector, I would make it so for 10 seconds after you are revived, you are still on the same 'life'. If you are re-killed within 10 seconds of a revive, there will be no death or kill added to either players records.

50 points for a down and an extra 5 for making sure they're terminated?

I mean technically you did get gunned down to the point where you've flatlined but I get it and it would make for more interesting gameplay than just immediately respawning when you get shot down.