I really don't understand why so many scouts are getting so upset about the idea of cloaks being just normal equipment

You all seem to be forgetting that cloaks in Eve are high power slots ... the equivalent of DUSTs weapon slots.

Who's to say it won't (or shouldn't) be a light weapon slot module !?

Someone had to say it: cloaks should be scout only, for fucks sake we can't have one bloody thing to ourselves?

Mark my words that this module will be abused heavily by non scout players, just watch it happen.

Someone had to say it: cloaks should be scout only, for fucks sake we can't have one bloody thing to ourselves?

Mark my words that this module will be abused heavily by non scout players, just watch it happen.

tell me, I know you started playing EvE, how many non-black ops combat ships fit cloaky? none...

things that fit cloaking units:
scanning ships
haulers
black ops
stealth bombers
T3 covert reconfiguration
occasionally travel fit caps but that is rare

applying the same to dust:
things that fit cloaking units:
scouts

Last I checked Eve and Dust are two different games and should stay as such. Heavies got their guns and we get our cloaks.
Then mediums suits can have whatever the hell they will be getting later.

?"Must"??
You dont get to just throw claims like that without justification. particularly as a CPM.
You have no justification for your "must" claim.

edit:
You seem to be suffering from "I want it, but I dont wanna play scout!" syndrome.
As such, you are demonstrating lousy aptitude to be a CPM

I agree with you.
It makes no sense to be able to fit a forge gun on a scout.
JUST LIKE IT MAKES NO SENSE TO BE ABLE TO FIT A CLOAK ON A HEAVY.
Or anything other than a suit specifically designed to be easily cloaked.
They have a word for that.. I think its a "scout".

The cloak should be the bonus for hitting level 5 on scout dropsuit. not equipment. Would be pathetic to see a gallente logi rocking dmg mods, heavy armor, proto weaps, triage hives and be invisible....

Games is currently all over the ******* map, everyone is set to headless chicken mode, Scouts laugh more than anyone, logi's are whatever they want to be, assault runs scared and heavies fill in for the asault using light assault weapons.

Does it make sense that a SMALLER power source with a SMALLER CPU should be able to better support a CPU and power hungry cloaking device? Or does it make more sense that a Heavy with the needed CPU and PG already on it should be able to? The ONLY way it makes sense on the Scout is if, due to having less of a surface area to cover combined with special "bonuses" that are totally made up it is somehow able to. !

The Scout dropsuit is a lightweight suit optimized for enhanced mobility, multi-spectrum stealth ...
This high-tech suit is coated in adaptive camouflage, a thin layer of bio-hermatic membranes interwoven with microscopic optical sensors that control millions of individual pigment ferro-crystals

Yes, exactly. The suit is supposed to have special bonuses.

Read the scout dropsuit description sometime. They're supposed to ALREADY HAVE IT!

*THE SUIT*, specifically!
The suit is described as,



Clearly, from the game's very beginning, some kind of visual cloak was envisioned, and it was envisioned as being SCOUT-ONLY, because of specializations inherent in the dropsuit itself.
Not even "light frame", but scout, specifically.

To replace a weapon, would have similarly difficult repercussions, however since the weapons are already on that menu it's more feasible but would still affect the weapon switching button on the controller (unless cloak being on = no weapons readied; readying weapon = cloak goes off). The easiest implementation would be an equipment slot item and it would then make any class have to consider three things in order to want to be able to use it: first the skills needed to fit and operate it; second the PG and CPU requirements (which should be high enough in CPU to make logi's not able to fit and and lots of other equipment); and third, it means sacrificing an equipment slot to do it.

No it says it's optimized for it, not that it's EXCLUSIVELY for it.

you seem to be having a reading comprehension problem.

It says it was "(optimized for stealth)", as a general case statement. that's not the cloak specific part.

It then says it has an optical camoflage layer.

That is the sort of thing required for visual stealth to work.
No other suit has it. Therefore, no other suit gets visual stealth.

Someone had to say it: cloaks should be scout only, for fucks sake we can't have one bloody thing to ourselves?

Mark my words that this module will be abused heavily by non scout players, just watch it happen.

It's an equipment. Equipments go in equipment slots. Have an equipment slot? Then you can equip this equipment, assuming you have the grid to do so.

In EVE Covert Ops ships aren't the only ones who can fit cloaks, they're the only ones who can fit covert ops cloaks (in effect). One is a basic cloak that doesn't offer much utility aside from remaining hidden while sitting still, where the covert ops cloak allows movement and has significantly less drawbacks.

This is how they should be in DUST. Proto cloaks should require so much grid that if you aren't a scout, you might be able to fit an advanced weapon and some basic modules on a proto suit with that cloak, where a scout can fit that as if it were a standard module.

This promotes diversity, which is healthy for the game.

As if people actually use the Commando

WHY?

Like the OP says, scouts deserve something that is scout-exclusive. It's supposed to be a specialist suit.

Jealous? Want a cloak? You can have one. Just go change into a scout suit.

And to stop the re-re-rehash: No, not everything is usable in all suits, so your 'should' is completely unjustifyable.

There are heavy-only items, so it's perfectly justifyable to have scout-only items.

Fitting in the light weapon slot is the most feasible way to do it, you've even covered ALL the reasons in your single paragraph here ^^

In order to activate the cloak you would have to select it as a weapon ... therefore you cannot run round with a weapon selected to decloak with sights aimed at someones head.
You say "it would then make any class have to consider three things" ... Heavies don't have equipment slots ... so there's one class eliminated from using it ... Why ?
You also say "should be high enough in CPU to make logi's not able to fit" ... most logis only have a light weapon slot and a grenade slot ... if they fitted the cloak in their light weapon slot they'd only have a grenade for offence ! ... how is this not appealing to anyone opposed to "killer bees" or "lologis" or "logi slayers" or whatever you want to call them ... they won't be able to use them. (quick Edit : UNLESS THEY'RE JUST LOGI'ING)
This way EVERYONE can fit it ... EVERYONE is heavily penalised for what is going to be a powerful tool ... and Scouts get to fit them at a massively reduced fitting cost which if done right would be enough that every other class had to lose their light weapon AND make sacrifices in equipment, grenades and/or ehp/regen whereas Scouts could fit them and have more cpu/pg left over than they would if they'd fitted a light weapon, so they could go full proto on everything else.

No matter where it goes it will still be damn difficult to fit for anything armour tanked since it would take cpu/pg extenders and they would have to sacrifice their tanking slots in order to fit it, whereas shield tankers won't.

Second Edit : Also in the light weapon slot similar mechanics could be implemented as are in Eve, where there is a delay between decloaking and your ability to fire weapons ... the same would go in DUST ... but Scouts could get a bonus to that too !