Should of waited until the release of 1.7 to see what was balanced, I mean it's kind of retar*ed to spend large amounts of sp right before a major update because no one knows what ninja nerfs will happen and therefore if you are spilling into something that will be useless

You made a decision based on patch notes rather than waiting a few days to see the patch for yourself?
HTFU.

You're claiming you did wait. Obviously not.

Really? You obviously cannot read.

Can you not comprehend that the old graph was still the graph that we had to go off of for the first couple days of Uprising 1.7?

Makes irreversible decisions based on official CCP information.
QQ's.

All I hear is "wah wah wah".
Cry more.

All I hear is "wah wah wah".
Cry more.

Yus this is question I have been waiting for.


Caldari

"The Caldari State, a nation formed on the ideal of meritocracy, honour, community, and self betterment. The state is composed of 8 megacorporations, massive sprawling entities that control almost all forms of business and social constructs within the State.The Caldari are a proud and independent people, choosing to adhere to their traditional customs rather than accept those of the other empires. The Caldari State has brought many victories to its people through its tough and rigid social structure, and also much misery.

I would also go on to explain the state of the megacorporations, how they control and regulate society, mention that Caldari philosophy that the One will fail and die, where the community will work together to survive. I would also mention the Caldari lost their home world to the Gallente, and that, to compensate for the empathy card, the Caldari are utterly ruthless and efficient selling the Intaki homeworlds.

With the Amarr I would impress the ideals of solidity, stability, and its stature as a Galactic power. I would then run a short introduction to the Amarr enslaving the MInmatar but explain that they believe that in doing so they are able to help the Minmatar become a productive part of the Empire. I would continue with the idea that the Amarr are capable of great good and great evil, but historically have not shown this Great Evil people have talked about.

I would then impress that the amarr value individuality, are a hopeful, inspired, and faithful people.

I don't have time to write out full Bios but I could if you insist.

But what if you found value in some of the LP stuff because CCP was toting around a graph that grossly misrepresented how much LP we would be making? And spent 3.5 million unallocated skill points based on that blunder? It isn't hard.

I can only assume anybody defending this crybaby is new to New Eden. Always wait until after a patch deploys before making decisions. ALWAYS. Failing to do so is a demonstration of ignorance to how CCP operates.

Your tears are delicious.

you have all the time in the world to think about what you are writing on the internet before you hit "POST"

Poop.

Edit: Fart.

Edit 2: If you're making skill decisions based on LP payouts, I have no sympathy for your QQ.

Edit 3: It looks like I have all the time in the world to think about what I'm writing after I hit "POST", too.

We know you're incapable of rational discussion, it's why no one has taken you seriously.

Please though, by all means, continue.

We know you're incapable of rational discussion, it's why no one has taken you seriously.

Please though, by all means, continue.

Wasn't patch notes, it was official charts provided by CCP

Derp

A devblog, right? SoGǪ it was notes? About the patch?

I can only assume anybody defending this crybaby is new to New Eden. Always wait until after a patch deploys before making decisions. ALWAYS. Failing to do so is a demonstration of ignorance to how CCP operates.

Your tears are delicious.

You crystal balled in advance on numbers that were always subject to change and you lost.

In the end I attribute my issue with FW not down to skilled players vs non skilled players, I attribute it to CCP doing a **** poor job introducing the racial groups of New Eden.

[...]

Till then this game is ******* ridiculous as two factions immediately appeal to the wider social climate while the others openly oppose them. Apart from aesthetics there is no reason to pick any race other than Gal or Min since deep down most people don't want to be the villain.

TL;DR We were told LP Payouts would be high, so many (or at least I) figured you could make a good amount of prototype suits with loyalty points, which only required level 3. However, a few days after the update they revealed they had changed the LP Payouts and that now it is unreasonable to fund yourself with LP and if you want a lot of proto suits you'd need to buy the full ISK versions with level 5. Problem is, SP was already spent based on the original false information.

EDIT: I did wait until after Uprising 1.7 to spend these points. I didn't crystal ball anything, I did not predict anything. I used official CCP information which was current on December 10th, 2013 after Uprising 1.7 went live. CCP didn't update their official information to the accurate numbers until three days later on December 13th, 2013.

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The new items in the Loyalty Stores have reduced skill requirements to use them. Notably, you can use prototype suits at level 3, which saves you a lot of SP. Now, when Uprising 1.7 launched CCP was still displaying the following graph,

http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65526/1/LP_Graph.png

Surely other people looked at this, then looked at the costs of suits in the LP store and decided they would spend their points elsewhere and just buy the protosuits from the loyalty store? But then, AFTER Uprising 1.7 launched, CCP updated the displayed information to the following,

https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65526/1/fw_devblog_11_lppayouttable.png

Note how things drastically changed. Now you look at it, and realize you're not going to be able to get as many dropsuits as you thought. I know I personally would of rather spent my skill points going up to Level 5 in my dropsuit to simply buy the prototype suits with ISK, but it's too late now.

I understand that the contents of the original graph was based on when LP costs where higher, but we were never given that information until a few days after Uprising 1.7 hit. I understand that the information displayed in the image was the numbers present at launch, but given how the original graph only uses markings at 10,000 LP intervals, there was no way we would of known. After all, during the first few days of Uprising 1.7 that first graph was still the information CCP was presenting to us. And no, I'm not saying we should be getting 40,000 LP per victory, but nonetheless that was the information CCP was presenting us and it has altered many decisions.

It's just so stupid how CCP can make huge mistakes like this, and this is a huge mistake (they were presenting to us numbers that were not even remotely accurate) and not do anything about it. I can not be the only one who spent a ton of skill points based off the information provided on the first graph, but surely CCP won't care. They'll just drastically alter things without telling us and then tell you "tough luck."

Did ccp say how much each proto suit would cost? So could you say the graph told you nothing the first time.

But what if you found value in some of the LP stuff because CCP was toting around a graph that grossly misrepresented how much LP we would be making? And spent 3.5 million unallocated skill points based on that blunder? It isn't hard.

The graph was still displayed for the first couple days of Uprising 1.7, when we could look up the costs of the items in the loyalty stores ourselves. And since for those first couple days people were level 2 standing at best, you couldn't tell that the graph was inaccurate.

But what if you found value in some of the LP stuff because CCP was toting around a graph that grossly misrepresented how much LP we would be making? And spent 3.5 million unallocated skill points based on that blunder? It isn't hard.