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Darken-Sol
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:05:00 -
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These guys have been crying since open beta ended. That's way longer than anyone, they need their turn with the paddle or they will quit. You can bet AV will get a buff, the infantry cry louder and harder. This game has become a cry till CCP gives you the win kind of affair. That's fine. Tanks will be abused and nerfed. Chromosome had everything even super tank spam. What happened to those tanks? Removed.
I tanked in 1.6, it was fun any challenging. Now days Sica or soma is the equivalent of a decent tank a week ago. This is sweet as a tanker. As AV I just avoid them. Really they are so busy killing blueberries you can just walk around the battlefield. Any hope on using them for squad based combat? Don't count on it. They can't move with infantry or provide transportation. Too fast and no seats.
I feel cheated in regards to seriousness. This game is more fun, but less tactical. This is really what tankers wanted? I think tanking is a joke, but jokes are fun, for a bit. |
Mad Mav
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:08:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:These guys have been crying since open beta ended. That's way longer than anyone.
Derpship pilots say hi.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:09:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:These guys have been crying since open beta ended. That's way longer than anyone, they need their turn with the paddle or they will quit.
pre patch armor tanks and proper fit took 20 - 30 seconds (depending on the amount of damage mods) to kill SOLO with proto swarms. I wonder what those people crying about solo guys killing them did in those timeframe. roof forges is a map design issue. the only real issue that existed is that getting into a tank resistant enough to proto AV took long while you could get proto AV in a week of playing, which many did not realized. all the tank QQ did was already highlighting how bad some people are. most tank driver behave like average CoD kids, they want be able to run into a squad alone, kill everyone and move out alive and if it does not happen, they cry on the forum.
it would be naiv to believe that this will stay like it is now, CCP will sooner or later realize the mistake and swing the nerf hammer again. enjoy while it lasts, I will just watch the show and again collect the tears of all bad tank drivers whining all over the forum. |
Terra Thesis
HDYLTA Defiant Legacy
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:14:00 -
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hello, militia overdrive bug. so many balance threads about a bug.
"this bug is totally OP!!!!!"
"no it's great!!! thank you CCP for designing this bug!!!!"
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8213
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:18:00 -
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On December 10th, the tank thing was fun. I didn't care, it was just so cool to see tanks doing flips n' sh*t.
But the fun is done now. I want to get back to playing the game, but I can't because tanks broke it. |
Darken-Sol
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:21:00 -
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Terra Thesis wrote:hello, militia overdrive bug. so many balance threads about a bug.
"this bug is totally OP!!!!!"
"no it's great!!! thank you CCP for designing this bug!!!!"
its great fun. I am not talking about the bug.
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8213
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:22:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:These guys have been crying since open beta ended. That's way longer than anyone, they need their turn with the paddle or they will quit. pre patch armor tanks and proper fit took 20 - 30 seconds (depending on the amount of damage mods) to kill SOLO with proto swarms. I wonder what those people crying about solo guys killing them did in those timeframe. roof forges is a map design issue. the only real issue that existed is that getting into a tank resistant enough to proto AV took long while you could get proto AV in a week of playing, which many did not realized. all the tank QQ did was already highlighting how bad some people are. most tank driver behave like average CoD kids, they want be able to run into a squad alone, kill everyone and move out alive and if it does not happen, they cry on the forum. it would be naiv to believe that this will stay like it is now, CCP will sooner or later realize the mistake and swing the nerf hammer again. enjoy while it lasts, I will just watch the show and again collect the tears of all bad tank drivers whining all over the forum.
If your tank got popped by one guy with a swarm launcher, YOU DESERVED IT. Real tankers... GOOD tankers didn't go down to solo AV players.
But you are correct, now tankers will have a nerf hammer so hard hit upside their head they'll be begging for 1.6 tank conditions again. In a few months tanks will be banished to the dark part of New Eden; the place of obsolesce. But the HMG, Scout suit, and TacAR will keep them company... |
pegasis prime
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:22:00 -
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8213 wrote:On December 10th, the tank thing was fun. I didn't care, it was just so cool to see tanks doing flips n' sh*t.
But the fun is done now. I want to get back to playing the game, but I can't because tanks broke it.
good god can we just see how it pans out once they fix the nitro bug..............iv seen allot of QQ here over the last 24 hours along the lines of QQ my swarm launcher is unneffective while the gunlogi has its hardners up , QQ tanks are too fast and they can get away from me now instead of instapoping (yes the mlt nitro is broken reall tankers use the complex one any way ) lets just see how this all pans out once they have fixed the nitro bug and infantry learn how effective the plasma cannon is against gunlogis it really is effective but takes skill to use so don't expect to see many folks using it.
Its gone from suck .....to blow
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Darken-Sol
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:23:00 -
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8213 wrote:On December 10th, the tank thing was fun. I didn't care, it was just so cool to see tanks doing flips n' sh*t.
But the fun is done now. I want to get back to playing the game, but I can't because tanks broke it.
agreed. I want a little more seriousness in my shooter. |
Darken-Sol
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:26:00 -
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Please shut the fuuck up about the nitrous bug. No one gives a damn about it here. |
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pegasis prime
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:26:00 -
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8213 wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:These guys have been crying since open beta ended. That's way longer than anyone, they need their turn with the paddle or they will quit. pre patch armor tanks and proper fit took 20 - 30 seconds (depending on the amount of damage mods) to kill SOLO with proto swarms. I wonder what those people crying about solo guys killing them did in those timeframe. roof forges is a map design issue. the only real issue that existed is that getting into a tank resistant enough to proto AV took long while you could get proto AV in a week of playing, which many did not realized. all the tank QQ did was already highlighting how bad some people are. most tank driver behave like average CoD kids, they want be able to run into a squad alone, kill everyone and move out alive and if it does not happen, they cry on the forum. it would be naiv to believe that this will stay like it is now, CCP will sooner or later realize the mistake and swing the nerf hammer again. enjoy while it lasts, I will just watch the show and again collect the tears of all bad tank drivers whining all over the forum. If your tank got popped by one guy with a swarm launcher, YOU DESERVED IT. Real tankers... GOOD tankers didn't go down to solo AV players. But you are correct, now tankers will have a nerf hammer so hard hit upside their head they'll be begging for 1.6 tank conditions again. In a few months tanks will be banished to the dark part of New Eden; the place of obsolesce. But the HMG, Scout suit, and TacAR will keep them company...
now im just getting bored of your arguments you wer the guy who said to me that why would anyone run a tank when there is proto av on field, and tbh that's lame ...... a whole class in this game was able to be knocked out of any game by 1 proto aver and thusly putting many folks like myself who had ALL their sp into tanks out the game but I guess you thought that was fine..
Its gone from suck .....to blow
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Darken-Sol
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:42:00 -
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What I was getting at was immersion. Why skill into anything useful. I can call a soma or sica and be more effective than 75%of the mercs on the field. With a logi pilot it increases to the gain.
the wolves have been callin tanks and leavin em for blueberries. We roll up and stick REs all over good tanks. I wanted god machines, not clown cars.
an honest opinion please. Does anyone think this will last?
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:51:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:What I was getting at was immersion. Why skill into anything useful. I can call a soma or sica and be more effective than 75%of the mercs on the field. With a logi pilot it increases to the gain.
the wolves have been callin tanks and leavin em for blueberries. We roll up and stick REs all over good tanks. I wanted god machines, not clown cars.
an honest opinion please. Does anyone think this will last?
Honestly? No.
Which is why I only put 5M back into tanks. Got some pretty solid proto infantry too, so I'll be smiling whatever happens.
Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown.
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Darken-Sol
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:00:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:What I was getting at was immersion. Why skill into anything useful. I can call a soma or sica and be more effective than 75%of the mercs on the field. With a logi pilot it increases to the gain.
the wolves have been callin tanks and leavin em for blueberries. We roll up and stick REs all over good tanks. I wanted god machines, not clown cars.
an honest opinion please. Does anyone think this will last?
Honestly? No. Which is why I only put 5M back into tanks. Got some pretty solid proto infantry too, so I'll be smiling whatever happens.
good man playin both sides, smart. I got 32 mil invested into my toon. I grab a forge and hop in a soma almost every match. I wanna use my other gear but can't find the time. |
Terra Thesis
HDYLTA Defiant Legacy
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:03:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Please shut the fuuck up about the nitrous bug. No one gives a damn about it here.
i give a damn, and so should everyone, because that's the one thing keeping me from assault forge gunning 80% of these tanks into oblivion. every single one of these threads is just pointless noise unless they address the bug that lets vehicles dispatch at warp speed at the first hint of damage.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:05:00 -
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Terra Thesis wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Please shut the fuuck up about the nitrous bug. No one gives a damn about it here. i give a damn, and so should everyone, because that's the one thing keeping me from assault forge gunning 80% of these tanks into oblivion. every single one of these threads is just pointless noise unless they address the bug that lets vehicles dispatch at warp speed at the first hint of damage.
Getting fixed soon as the hotfix is approved.
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Darken-Sol
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:07:00 -
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Terra Thesis wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Please shut the fuuck up about the nitrous bug. No one gives a damn about it here. i give a damn, and so should everyone, because that's the one thing keeping me from assault forge gunning 80% of these tanks into oblivion. every single one of these threads is just pointless noise unless they address the bug that lets vehicles dispatch at warp speed at the first hint of damage.
I was pointing out that everyone who can read knows its a bug. Thanks for the bump. Hopefully you will have something useful to contribute next time. |
ROEG X
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:17:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:These guys have been crying since open beta ended. That's way longer than anyone, they need their turn with the paddle or they will quit. You can bet AV will get a buff, the infantry cry louder and harder. This game has become a cry till CCP gives you the win kind of affair. That's fine. Tanks will be abused and nerfed. Chromosome had everything even super tank spam. What happened to those tanks? Removed.
I tanked in 1.6, it was fun any challenging. Now days Sica or soma is the equivalent of a decent tank a week ago. This is sweet as a tanker. As AV I just avoid them. Really they are so busy killing blueberries you can just walk around the battlefield. Any hope on using them for squad based combat? Don't count on it. They can't move with infantry or provide transportation. Too fast and no seats.
I feel cheated in regards to seriousness. This game is more fun, but less tactical. This is really what tankers wanted? I think tanking is a joke, but jokes are fun, for a bit.
I love tankers but when they are chasing everyone in bunkers and the AV technology is utterly useless to destroy those bastards, there's a problem lol !! I feel like I'm in Jurassic Park get runned down in my LAV by a Tank speeding on my rear end ready to blow me away lol !!! it sucks. Love Tanks but being utterly powerless to blow them off there tracks is bad . |
Darken-Sol
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:24:00 -
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ROEG X wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:These guys have been crying since open beta ended. That's way longer than anyone, they need their turn with the paddle or they will quit. You can bet AV will get a buff, the infantry cry louder and harder. This game has become a cry till CCP gives you the win kind of affair. That's fine. Tanks will be abused and nerfed. Chromosome had everything even super tank spam. What happened to those tanks? Removed.
I tanked in 1.6, it was fun any challenging. Now days Sica or soma is the equivalent of a decent tank a week ago. This is sweet as a tanker. As AV I just avoid them. Really they are so busy killing blueberries you can just walk around the battlefield. Any hope on using them for squad based combat? Don't count on it. They can't move with infantry or provide transportation. Too fast and no seats.
I feel cheated in regards to seriousness. This game is more fun, but less tactical. This is really what tankers wanted? I think tanking is a joke, but jokes are fun, for a bit. I love tankers but when they are chasing everyone in bunkers and the AV technology is utterly useless to destroy those bastards, there's a problem lol !! I feel like I'm in Jurassic Park get runned down in my LAV by a Tank speeding on my rear end ready to blow me away lol !!! it sucks. Love Tanks but being utterly powerless to blow them off there tracks is bad .
I'll let u in on the joke.drop couple MLT tanks. Two will out dps and destroy most tanks you see. They don't run seats for gunners so you don't have to worry about an Av guy poppin your cheap ass tank. Chase him to the redline and beyond. Who cares gear is cheap, making people explode is worth a little isk. |
Terra Thesis
HDYLTA Defiant Legacy
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:28:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:I was pointing out that everyone who can read knows its a bug. Thanks for the bump. Hopefully you will have something useful to contribute next time.
the bug is pertinent to your thread (and the 5627 others) because:
1. bug fixed 2. av relevant again 3. end of LOLtanks 4. start of srs dust 514, the original topic in question.
IWS, thanks for the update.
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Darken-Sol
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:33:00 -
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Terra Thesis wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:I was pointing out that everyone who can read knows its a bug. Thanks for the bump. Hopefully you will have something useful to contribute next time. the bug is pertinent to your thread (and the 5627 others) because: 1. bug fixed 2. av relevant again 3. end of LOLtanks 4. start of srs dust 514, the original topic in question. IWS, thanks for the update.
trolling is pertinent to every thread. You are the only one here talking about the bug. The only responses you are getting are shut up. Plz keep trolling a decent discussion. We love making fun of people who don't understand but keep defending themselves anyway. They are forum equivalents to blueberries. |
Terra Thesis
HDYLTA Defiant Legacy
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:47:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:trolling is pertinent to every thread. You are the only one here talking about the bug. The only responses you are getting are shut up. Plz keep trolling a decent discussion. We love making fun of people who don't understand but keep defending themselves anyway. They are forum equivalents to blueberries.
darken, i wasn't trolling. as of my last post i thought i could still talk some sense into you. i don't know, i guess i still had a little respect for you left? but it looks like you're going all forum warrior on me, so sure, I'll leave.
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8213
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:47:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:8213 wrote:On December 10th, the tank thing was fun. I didn't care, it was just so cool to see tanks doing flips n' sh*t.
But the fun is done now. I want to get back to playing the game, but I can't because tanks broke it. good god can we just see how it pans out once they fix the nitro bug..............iv seen allot of QQ here over the last 24 hours along the lines of QQ my swarm launcher is unneffective while the gunlogi has its hardners up , QQ tanks are too fast and they can get away from me now instead of instapoping (yes the mlt nitro is broken reall tankers use the complex one any way ) lets just see how this all pans out once they have fixed the nitro bug and infantry learn how effective the plasma cannon is against gunlogis it really is effective but takes skill to use so don't expect to see many folks using it.
Peg, its more than just a nitro bug. I know you've been wanting a good tank buff and AV nerf but this --like everything CCP does-- went way overboard.
Tanks are cheap, idiot proof, insanely survivable, deadly...
I rolled up to a Sica with my Soma. When the Soma turned on the hardener, my blaster did 0 damage. It healed through my shots and stayed at full as I pelt blaster shots into it.
My 77k ISK Soma can survive 4 volleys from proto swarms. (I actually stayed in place w/ mine just to find out)
The only effective AV is to simply put REs on a LAV and commit suicide. And the tanker can just call in another tank because they are cheap throw aways.
The balance in vehicles is broken. I have found it cheaper and more effective to just use tanks now 100% of the time. It's not a specialty like it once was. Everybody and their grandmother has a tank and is r*ping face with it. Tankers got f*cked over the most by this, because in a few months they will get nerfed so hard you'll want your pre 1.7 back.
I don't ever remember you getting popped by one AVer. You are a top tanker. You had more success than failure with them. My Protosuit sometimes gets killed by a noob in a starter fit. It happens, I brought it out onto the field, I took the risk. Look at how many tanks the W0LVES have destroyed on the field. We have destroyed 3,4,5,6,7 in a single match. Its there fault for bringing tanks out onto the field and still getting beat down. But it also took a team of specialists to take down tanks. Now a team of specialists can't do anything to a HAVs. |
Darken-Sol
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:57:00 -
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Terra Thesis wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:trolling is pertinent to every thread. You are the only one here talking about the bug. The only responses you are getting are shut up. Plz keep trolling a decent discussion. We love making fun of people who don't understand but keep defending themselves anyway. They are forum equivalents to blueberries. darken, i wasn't trolling. as of my last post i thought i could still talk some sense into you. i don't know, i guess i still had a little respect for you left? but it looks like you're going all forum warrior on me, so sure, I'll leave.
I just want a real discussion here. There are fifty other threads you can cry about the bug in. Here I want people who can think. I was hoping to get an accurate projection of where dust is heading. Maybe come to common ground on a few things. Everyone hides behind the bugged nitro excuse. Tankers and AV agree its got to go. No discussion there.
how to keep tanks from getting nerfed into the ground, now that would take some brains. Going back and forth is fun, but we should get serious and argue over the real problems |
Darken-Sol
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:59:00 -
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8213 wrote:pegasis prime wrote:8213 wrote:On December 10th, the tank thing was fun. I didn't care, it was just so cool to see tanks doing flips n' sh*t.
But the fun is done now. I want to get back to playing the game, but I can't because tanks broke it. good god can we just see how it pans out once they fix the nitro bug..............iv seen allot of QQ here over the last 24 hours along the lines of QQ my swarm launcher is unneffective while the gunlogi has its hardners up , QQ tanks are too fast and they can get away from me now instead of instapoping (yes the mlt nitro is broken reall tankers use the complex one any way ) lets just see how this all pans out once they have fixed the nitro bug and infantry learn how effective the plasma cannon is against gunlogis it really is effective but takes skill to use so don't expect to see many folks using it. Peg, its more than just a nitro bug. I know you've been wanting a good tank buff and AV nerf but this --like everything CCP does-- went way overboard. Tanks are cheap, idiot proof, insanely survivable, deadly... I rolled up to a Sica with my Soma. When the Soma turned on the hardener, my blaster did 0 damage. It healed through my shots and stayed at full as I pelt blaster shots into it. My 77k ISK Soma can survive 4 volleys from proto swarms. (I actually stayed in place w/ mine just to find out) The only effective AV is to simply put REs on a LAV and commit suicide. And the tanker can just call in another tank because they are cheap throw aways. The balance in vehicles is broken. I have found it cheaper and more effective to just use tanks now 100% of the time. It's not a specialty like it once was. Everybody and their grandmother has a tank and is r*ping face with it. Tankers got f*cked over the most by this, because in a few months they will get nerfed so hard you'll want your pre 1.7 back. I don't ever remember you getting popped by one AVer. You are a top tanker. You had more success than failure with them. My Protosuit sometimes gets killed by a noob in a starter fit. It happens, I brought it out onto the field, I took the risk. Look at how many tanks the W0LVES have destroyed on the field. We have destroyed 3,4,5,6,7 in a single match. Its there fault for bringing tanks out onto the field and still getting beat down. But it also took a team of specialists to take down tanks. Now a team of specialists can't do anything to a HAVs.
we can drop some warhounds but that's just feeding the fire |
HiddenBrother
Days of Ruin
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:01:00 -
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You're the guy that kept redlining my 2.2 million ISK Vayu.
Alone.
Ruin.
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Darken-Sol
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:03:00 -
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HiddenBrother wrote:You're the guy that kept redlining my 2.2 million ISK Vayu.
Alone.
that was funny. But in all honesty the one proxy I left there redlined you when I left to kill a different tank and hack e. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:04:00 -
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Tanks are fine, its AV which are ******* stuipd
I have to write a how to guide for AV since they are that dense |
8213
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:06:00 -
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HiddenBrother wrote:You're the guy that kept redlining my 2.2 million ISK Vayu.
Alone.
I remember that game. My boss kept you redlined the whole game, because:
1. You were to stupid to just recall and give up. 2. Couldn't deal with ONE guy shooting you... did it ever occur to you to just jump out of your tank and shoot him? 3. We destroyed a few tanks that game as a team and you high tailed it to the redline because you got scared and paniced.
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Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:09:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:These guys have been crying since open beta ended. That's way longer than anyone, they need their turn with the paddle or they will quit. You can bet AV will get a buff, the infantry cry louder and harder. This game has become a cry till CCP gives you the win kind of affair. That's fine. Tanks will be abused and nerfed. Chromosome had everything even super tank spam. What happened to those tanks? Removed.
I tanked in 1.6, it was fun any challenging. Now days Sica or soma is the equivalent of a decent tank a week ago. This is sweet as a tanker. As AV I just avoid them. Really they are so busy killing blueberries you can just walk around the battlefield. Any hope on using them for squad based combat? Don't count on it. They can't move with infantry or provide transportation. Too fast and no seats.
I feel cheated in regards to seriousness. This game is more fun, but less tactical. This is really what tankers wanted? I think tanking is a joke, but jokes are fun, for a bit. They're only this good right now because of the bugged Militia Nitrous injector. Take that away from them and their tanks won't be leaping around anymore.
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