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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:05:00 -
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These guys have been crying since open beta ended. That's way longer than anyone, they need their turn with the paddle or they will quit. You can bet AV will get a buff, the infantry cry louder and harder. This game has become a cry till CCP gives you the win kind of affair. That's fine. Tanks will be abused and nerfed. Chromosome had everything even super tank spam. What happened to those tanks? Removed.
I tanked in 1.6, it was fun any challenging. Now days Sica or soma is the equivalent of a decent tank a week ago. This is sweet as a tanker. As AV I just avoid them. Really they are so busy killing blueberries you can just walk around the battlefield. Any hope on using them for squad based combat? Don't count on it. They can't move with infantry or provide transportation. Too fast and no seats.
I feel cheated in regards to seriousness. This game is more fun, but less tactical. This is really what tankers wanted? I think tanking is a joke, but jokes are fun, for a bit. |
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:21:00 -
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Terra Thesis wrote:hello, militia overdrive bug. so many balance threads about a bug.
"this bug is totally OP!!!!!"
"no it's great!!! thank you CCP for designing this bug!!!!"
its great fun. I am not talking about the bug.
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:23:00 -
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8213 wrote:On December 10th, the tank thing was fun. I didn't care, it was just so cool to see tanks doing flips n' sh*t.
But the fun is done now. I want to get back to playing the game, but I can't because tanks broke it.
agreed. I want a little more seriousness in my shooter. |
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:26:00 -
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Please shut the fuuck up about the nitrous bug. No one gives a damn about it here. |
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:42:00 -
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What I was getting at was immersion. Why skill into anything useful. I can call a soma or sica and be more effective than 75%of the mercs on the field. With a logi pilot it increases to the gain.
the wolves have been callin tanks and leavin em for blueberries. We roll up and stick REs all over good tanks. I wanted god machines, not clown cars.
an honest opinion please. Does anyone think this will last?
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:00:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:What I was getting at was immersion. Why skill into anything useful. I can call a soma or sica and be more effective than 75%of the mercs on the field. With a logi pilot it increases to the gain.
the wolves have been callin tanks and leavin em for blueberries. We roll up and stick REs all over good tanks. I wanted god machines, not clown cars.
an honest opinion please. Does anyone think this will last?
Honestly? No. Which is why I only put 5M back into tanks. Got some pretty solid proto infantry too, so I'll be smiling whatever happens.
good man playin both sides, smart. I got 32 mil invested into my toon. I grab a forge and hop in a soma almost every match. I wanna use my other gear but can't find the time. |
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:07:00 -
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Terra Thesis wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Please shut the fuuck up about the nitrous bug. No one gives a damn about it here. i give a damn, and so should everyone, because that's the one thing keeping me from assault forge gunning 80% of these tanks into oblivion. every single one of these threads is just pointless noise unless they address the bug that lets vehicles dispatch at warp speed at the first hint of damage.
I was pointing out that everyone who can read knows its a bug. Thanks for the bump. Hopefully you will have something useful to contribute next time. |
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:24:00 -
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ROEG X wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:These guys have been crying since open beta ended. That's way longer than anyone, they need their turn with the paddle or they will quit. You can bet AV will get a buff, the infantry cry louder and harder. This game has become a cry till CCP gives you the win kind of affair. That's fine. Tanks will be abused and nerfed. Chromosome had everything even super tank spam. What happened to those tanks? Removed.
I tanked in 1.6, it was fun any challenging. Now days Sica or soma is the equivalent of a decent tank a week ago. This is sweet as a tanker. As AV I just avoid them. Really they are so busy killing blueberries you can just walk around the battlefield. Any hope on using them for squad based combat? Don't count on it. They can't move with infantry or provide transportation. Too fast and no seats.
I feel cheated in regards to seriousness. This game is more fun, but less tactical. This is really what tankers wanted? I think tanking is a joke, but jokes are fun, for a bit. I love tankers but when they are chasing everyone in bunkers and the AV technology is utterly useless to destroy those bastards, there's a problem lol !! I feel like I'm in Jurassic Park get runned down in my LAV by a Tank speeding on my rear end ready to blow me away lol !!! it sucks. Love Tanks but being utterly powerless to blow them off there tracks is bad .
I'll let u in on the joke.drop couple MLT tanks. Two will out dps and destroy most tanks you see. They don't run seats for gunners so you don't have to worry about an Av guy poppin your cheap ass tank. Chase him to the redline and beyond. Who cares gear is cheap, making people explode is worth a little isk. |
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:33:00 -
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Terra Thesis wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:I was pointing out that everyone who can read knows its a bug. Thanks for the bump. Hopefully you will have something useful to contribute next time. the bug is pertinent to your thread (and the 5627 others) because: 1. bug fixed 2. av relevant again 3. end of LOLtanks 4. start of srs dust 514, the original topic in question. IWS, thanks for the update.
trolling is pertinent to every thread. You are the only one here talking about the bug. The only responses you are getting are shut up. Plz keep trolling a decent discussion. We love making fun of people who don't understand but keep defending themselves anyway. They are forum equivalents to blueberries. |
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:57:00 -
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Terra Thesis wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:trolling is pertinent to every thread. You are the only one here talking about the bug. The only responses you are getting are shut up. Plz keep trolling a decent discussion. We love making fun of people who don't understand but keep defending themselves anyway. They are forum equivalents to blueberries. darken, i wasn't trolling. as of my last post i thought i could still talk some sense into you. i don't know, i guess i still had a little respect for you left? but it looks like you're going all forum warrior on me, so sure, I'll leave.
I just want a real discussion here. There are fifty other threads you can cry about the bug in. Here I want people who can think. I was hoping to get an accurate projection of where dust is heading. Maybe come to common ground on a few things. Everyone hides behind the bugged nitro excuse. Tankers and AV agree its got to go. No discussion there.
how to keep tanks from getting nerfed into the ground, now that would take some brains. Going back and forth is fun, but we should get serious and argue over the real problems |
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:59:00 -
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8213 wrote:pegasis prime wrote:8213 wrote:On December 10th, the tank thing was fun. I didn't care, it was just so cool to see tanks doing flips n' sh*t.
But the fun is done now. I want to get back to playing the game, but I can't because tanks broke it. good god can we just see how it pans out once they fix the nitro bug..............iv seen allot of QQ here over the last 24 hours along the lines of QQ my swarm launcher is unneffective while the gunlogi has its hardners up , QQ tanks are too fast and they can get away from me now instead of instapoping (yes the mlt nitro is broken reall tankers use the complex one any way ) lets just see how this all pans out once they have fixed the nitro bug and infantry learn how effective the plasma cannon is against gunlogis it really is effective but takes skill to use so don't expect to see many folks using it. Peg, its more than just a nitro bug. I know you've been wanting a good tank buff and AV nerf but this --like everything CCP does-- went way overboard. Tanks are cheap, idiot proof, insanely survivable, deadly... I rolled up to a Sica with my Soma. When the Soma turned on the hardener, my blaster did 0 damage. It healed through my shots and stayed at full as I pelt blaster shots into it. My 77k ISK Soma can survive 4 volleys from proto swarms. (I actually stayed in place w/ mine just to find out) The only effective AV is to simply put REs on a LAV and commit suicide. And the tanker can just call in another tank because they are cheap throw aways. The balance in vehicles is broken. I have found it cheaper and more effective to just use tanks now 100% of the time. It's not a specialty like it once was. Everybody and their grandmother has a tank and is r*ping face with it. Tankers got f*cked over the most by this, because in a few months they will get nerfed so hard you'll want your pre 1.7 back. I don't ever remember you getting popped by one AVer. You are a top tanker. You had more success than failure with them. My Protosuit sometimes gets killed by a noob in a starter fit. It happens, I brought it out onto the field, I took the risk. Look at how many tanks the W0LVES have destroyed on the field. We have destroyed 3,4,5,6,7 in a single match. Its there fault for bringing tanks out onto the field and still getting beat down. But it also took a team of specialists to take down tanks. Now a team of specialists can't do anything to a HAVs.
we can drop some warhounds but that's just feeding the fire |
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:03:00 -
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HiddenBrother wrote:You're the guy that kept redlining my 2.2 million ISK Vayu.
Alone.
that was funny. But in all honesty the one proxy I left there redlined you when I left to kill a different tank and hack e. |
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:10:00 -
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8213 wrote:HiddenBrother wrote:You're the guy that kept redlining my 2.2 million ISK Vayu.
Alone. I remember that game. My boss kept you redlined the whole game, because: 1. You were to stupid to just recall and give up. 2. Couldn't deal with ONE guy shooting you... did it ever occur to you to just jump out of your tank and shoot him? 3. We destroyed a few tanks that game as a team and you high tailed it to the redline because you got scared and paniced.
I think he had a blueberry. Also this guy redlined me, so what if it was his red line. I could have been useful elsewhere. |
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:16:00 -
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HiddenBrother wrote:8213 wrote:HiddenBrother wrote:You're the guy that kept redlining my 2.2 million ISK Vayu.
Alone. I remember that game. My boss kept you redlined the whole game, because: 1. You were to stupid to just recall and give up. 2. Couldn't deal with ONE guy shooting you... did it ever occur to you to just jump out of your tank and shoot him? 3. We destroyed a few tanks that game as a team and you high tailed it to the redline because you got scared and paniced. You really should refrain from personal attacks. Did it ever occur to you that my suit was militia; because I invested all of my SP into tanks? It was likely that he was carrying an advanced sidearm.
it would have been a terrible mistake to step out. You are right about that. You could have gotten out of the redline though. A good tanker knows the maps and the redline is huge. Your tank was pretty tough but your skittish. YOLO. |
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:37:00 -
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Poppin tanks is easy. Enemy tanks are of no concern to me. I got proto AV. the suit costs 90k. Why bother? I can drop a soma kill the tank and rapefest infantry too, for 70k.
there was a time when it took skill and intelligence to be a pilot. I have no reason not to drop cheap tanks and mow down anyone I see. Nobody does. That's why there is so much tank spam. The novelty is wearing off. I don't even watch out for good tankers anymore or care if its armor or Shield. It doesn't matter its just a job now. |
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:44:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:These guys have been crying since open beta ended. That's way longer than anyone, they need their turn with the paddle or they will quit. You can bet AV will get a buff, the infantry cry louder and harder. This game has become a cry till CCP gives you the win kind of affair. That's fine. Tanks will be abused and nerfed. Chromosome had everything even super tank spam. What happened to those tanks? Removed.
I tanked in 1.6, it was fun any challenging. Now days Sica or soma is the equivalent of a decent tank a week ago. This is sweet as a tanker. As AV I just avoid them. Really they are so busy killing blueberries you can just walk around the battlefield. Any hope on using them for squad based combat? Don't count on it. They can't move with infantry or provide transportation. Too fast and no seats.
I feel cheated in regards to seriousness. This game is more fun, but less tactical. This is really what tankers wanted? I think tanking is a joke, but jokes are fun, for a bit. The thing is infantry has never had 'their turn with the paddle'. Tell me, when did you ever see infantry effectively immune to tank fire, in the way that tanks are effectively immune to infantry fire (including AV) at the moment? Infantry versus AV was more or less balanced between launch and 1.7 - infantry scared of tanks+tanks scared of AV=balance. In beta it was Tank 514 like it is now. I'd like to see CCP give infantry the upper hand for once, but I don't think I'll still be playing when they finally pull their heads out their arses.
swarms were stupidly op in 1.6. Shield tanks were laughable. Maddies relied on a broken rep cycle. It took alot of skill and aPC fit Maddy to not get instapopped. I loved it. On both sides. Now we see generic fits and tank spam. How is this better. If it took more than a mlt tank to be effective I would have skilled back into tanks. |
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:57:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Can a tanker confirm whether the militia nitro bug has been hotfixed?
there are other threads for this type of nonsense. |
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Posted - 2013.12.12 14:54:00 -
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Chilling for a week is good advice. I personally think good tankers will all be running the same builds. And so will all the blueberries, just slightly less effective. A decent fit is what?750k? A MLT variant of that fit is 1/10 of that, with no sp investment. Is the badass tank 10 times more effective? Would it take 10 MLT tanks to pop him? |
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Posted - 2013.12.12 15:36:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:8213 wrote:HiddenBrother wrote:You're the guy that kept redlining my 2.2 million ISK Vayu.
Alone. I remember that game. My boss kept you redlined the whole game, because: 1. You were to stupid to just recall and give up. 2. Couldn't deal with ONE guy shooting you... did it ever occur to you to just jump out of your tank and shoot him? 3. We destroyed a few tanks that game as a team and you high tailed it to the redline because you got scared and paniced. You obviously don't understand tanking.
8213 is a competent tanker. Also a slayer of men on the ground. He understands battle and is helpful with new guys. This fellow in the vayu was simply a coward. As cowards go he is afraid of them too. He skilled into a tank he couldn't afford and we crushed his armored column(I think ahrendee tanks for the most part) and chased him the 20 meters it took for him to make back to his ground spawn. He just hid the rest of the time. Also 1 proxy in the road held him at bay for a good 3minutes. He had a tough vayu, he was just to scared to use it.
alas, glory days. Now tanking is a big joke. Maybe he will find a spine somewhere and come and play. Cowards don't usually change their stripes, its easier to change their pants. |
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:55:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Chilling for a week is good advice. I personally think good tankers will all be running the same builds. And so will all the blueberries, just slightly less effective. A decent fit is what?750k? A MLT variant of that fit is 1/10 of that, with no sp investment. Is the badass tank 10 times more effective? Would it take 10 MLT tanks to pop him?
I don't know if I feel the same or different after a week. Been trying to do corp stuff. I bought some basic tanks. But usually pull out a sica to pop other tanks. Its still weird, I miss my Maddy and my 4226. |
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