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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:54:00 -
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You guys know that I love this game but why make a weapon so ridiculously overpowered? Does this make people happy? Run around with a crutch? I don-¦t get it..  |
Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
211
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:56:00 -
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My combat rifle one shots most non-heavy suits, has almost zero kick, I can carry 2 of them and they have a 1 second reload time
Tech De Ra // Electronic Sports League Games Co-ordinator
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis Dragonaors
256
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:59:00 -
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All I hear is wah wah that rifle does damage to armor how am i going to survie now wah wah nerf nerf nerf. Dude RR has a charge up time and if you strafe you can dodge it
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
402
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:01:00 -
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I-¦m getting shot all over the place in no time at the moment. Skilled into Rail Rifle Op level1 to try it out and dear me.. 2 easy. |
Yoma Carrim
Situation Normal all fraked up
97
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:01:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:My combat rifle one shots most non-heavy suits, has almost zero kick, I can carry 2 of them and they have a 1 second reload time
 a commando user as appeared
When you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck
Logi, Tanker, Heavy
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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
402
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:02:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:All I hear is wah wah my armor ssuit has a rifle that does damage to armor wah wah nerf nerf nerf. Dude RR has a charge up time and if you strafe you can dodge it
And now you bring your tears to my thread?
I for one do not cry over a free video game but I do like to discuss the obvious. |
Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
211
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:05:00 -
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Yoma Carrim wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:My combat rifle one shots most non-heavy suits, has almost zero kick, I can carry 2 of them and they have a 1 second reload time
a commando user as appeared
gotta max that reload speed son
Tech De Ra // Electronic Sports League Games Co-ordinator
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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
402
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:06:00 -
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Are you guys skilling into a weapon that is obviously gonna get a BIG nerve? What-¦s going on? |
Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis Dragonaors
256
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:08:00 -
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You sir are not bright it does 20% extra damage to shields are is it 10%? Whatever the point is that when you run a suit that is amarr or gallente it does extra damage including damage mods and prof lvl. I'm a shield kinda guy you know what seems op to me scr and gar. Reasoning damage mods prof lvl and it does 110% to shields. But now I think they are all balanced. But that's my opinion you can tear my thought up now
We fight for the future of the State not our
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis Dragonaors
256
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:09:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:Are you guys skilling into a weapon that is obviously gonna get a BIG nerve? What-¦s going on?
Psst they aren't going to nerf the gar never did look at logi's also they don't care.
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
403
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:10:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:You sir are not bright
Yeah.. I stopped reading after that. Learn manners lil kid.
Besides.. Stats don-¦t matter 2 me. What happens on the battlefield is what counts.
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis Dragonaors
256
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:13:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:You sir are not bright Yeah.. I stopped reading after that. Learn manners lil kid. Besides.. Stats don-¦t matter 2 me. What happens on the battlefield is what counts.
That hurts me a lil kid bah. Manners in a troll environment learn your place padawan I'm gonna find you and give you kittens. Yes kittens why because science
We fight for the future of the State not our
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
828
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:14:00 -
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I would say the Rail Rifle is balanced (or nearly so) with the Scrambler Rifle and Combat Rifle. However, the Rail Rifle is much more common because it is an easier weapon to use.
While the RR has more straight up damage potential, the downsides help keep it from outperforming good SCR and CR users. The spool-up time, while not significant, is enough to give a quick reacting SCR and CR user a good opportunity to take down a RR user. Additionally, the spool-up time makes it a very poor weapon when exchanging shots with someone ducking in and out of cover. The other downside of the RR is that though the kick doesn't seem to be too great, there is enough that tracking moving enemies at a distance is quite difficult.
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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
403
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:29:00 -
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We can all use those weapons so same goes for all. Might be feeling the rail Rifle a bit 2 much at the moment because it-¦s fresh/new and so many using it. But it does leave a scratch on our suits.. Thats 4 sure. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
316
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:39:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:All I hear is wah wah that rifle does damage to armor how am i going to survie now wah wah nerf nerf nerf. Dude RR has a charge up time and if you strafe you can dodge it
Yup it has does it hinder me nope honestly I dindn't even noticed the charge until I was exactly looking for it... |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
1106
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:42:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:We can all use those weapons so same goes for all. Might be feeling the rail Rifle a bit 2 much at the moment because it-¦s fresh/new and so many using it. But it does leave a scratch on our suits.. Thats 4 sure.
I'm not 100% sure what you just said but I think that I partially agree. The new ARs are ballanced with the other AR like weapons in the game.
The issue with this is that not all the other weapons are ballanced with the ARs (GAR, SCR, RR, CR). The HMG is a particularly heinous example of this since in its current state it can barely outgun an SMG let alone a full proto AR of any racial variant.
Now that CCP has built a balanced bunch of AR's they need to boost the damage potential of other weapons to match.
Fun > Realism
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
582
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:59:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:You guys know that I love this game but why make a weapon so ridiculously overpowered? Does this make people happy? Run around with a crutch? I don-¦t get it..
i'm surprised that You weren't typing in Caps to scream out RR OP. lol
I'm guessing tomorrow you are gonna say CR is OP. unless you specced into CR and not RR. Just FYI Duvolle works even better now. |
axis alpha
Red Star.
EoN.
96
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:11:00 -
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Its not so easy using the rr. The people using them is what's key.
The best part of waking up,
is whiskey in my cuuuuup!
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Lazy Scumbag
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
72
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:14:00 -
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Every new weapon is better ( except for the horrid plasma cannon ) It helps reiterate that your grind will never be complete. |
Lazy Scumbag
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
72
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:23:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:All I hear is wah wah that rifle does damage to armor how am i going to survie now wah wah nerf nerf nerf. Dude RR has a charge up time and if you strafe you can dodge it
Skill into another racial suit and see how you like it. Armor has always been at a disadvantage in this game.
I ran Gallente assault suits from the first day they were available. Almost always advanced fits. Have recently been running standard tier Caldari assault suits, and they are so much more survivable. There is no balance, and CCP has been making multiple changes to gear all at once without regard to the players who wasted sp.
Example: swarm damage and range nerfed in one shot. I saw five people using swarms against one dropship earlier (at once), dropship got away. |
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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
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Posted - 2013.12.11 18:44:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:You guys know that I love this game but why make a weapon so ridiculously overpowered? Does this make people happy? Run around with a crutch? I don-¦t get it.. i'm surprised that You weren't typing in Caps to scream out RR OP. lol I'm guessing tomorrow you are gonna say CR is OP. unless you specced into CR and not RR. Just FYI Duvolle works even better now.
I-¦m seeing many things out on the battlefield at the moment that are OP. Don-¦t get me started on the tanks. And then we have other stuff going the opposite way like the swarm launchers hardly working at all.
This game was more balanced before this update.
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HyperionsThunder
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
157
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Posted - 2013.12.11 18:53:00 -
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The combat rifle also benefits from +10% dam vs. armor, but suffers a smaller reduction vs. shields (-5% vs. -10%). Nevertheless, this gun will hopefully balance out the problem with everyone armor stacking on gal logi suits.
Common sense will prevail. Adapt or die.
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TheSprayNPray2
Fatal Absolution
241
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Posted - 2013.12.11 18:53:00 -
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The boundless combat rifle with proficiency 5 and 2 damage mods.... it does about 47damge a bullet it is pretty crazy. |
True Adamance
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.11 18:56:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:All I hear is wah wah that rifle does damage to armor how am i going to survie now wah wah nerf nerf nerf. Dude RR has a charge up time and if you strafe you can dodge it
Being a RR user, that time is essentially non existant, and after you start firing you either hold trigger until you die or kill your enemy.... its well....pretty easy, and pretty powerful.
In the end I see a 0.1 sec or 0.2 addition to the charge up time as an acceptable nerf, I don't like reducing gun power....
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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Beyond Creation
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
27
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Posted - 2013.12.11 18:58:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:Are you guys skilling into a weapon that is obviously gonna get a BIG nerve? What-¦s going on? Psst they aren't going to nerf the gar never did look at logi's also they don't care.
They actually nerfed the amarr logi by taking away one of the four equipment slots :p |
Lucrezia LeGrand
Sentinels of New Eden
94
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Posted - 2013.12.11 18:59:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:We can all use those weapons so same goes for all. Might be feeling the rail Rifle a bit 2 much at the moment because it-¦s fresh/new and so many using it. But it does leave a scratch on our suits.. Thats 4 sure.
This. I don't think the RR is overused because it's OP, rather it's new and people love new things. Personally, I like the RR and will spec into it, but d*** if it doesn't sound really annoying.
I hope CCP changes the sound effects of the RR because I hate it as it is. *pew pew pew* |
Beyond Creation
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
27
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Posted - 2013.12.11 19:02:00 -
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Lazy Scumbag wrote:Every new weapon is better ( except for the horrid plasma cannon ) It helps reiterate that your grind will never be complete.
The plasma cannon is a great weapon!!!
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HYENAKILLER X
AGGRESSIVE TYPE
382
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Posted - 2013.12.11 19:02:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:You guys know that I love this game but why make a weapon so ridiculously overpowered? Does this make people happy? Run around with a crutch? I don-¦t get it..
Its good, but in cqc vs ar or smg its trash
You are welcome for my leadership
*Proven Aggressive Type
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HyperionsThunder
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
157
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Posted - 2013.12.11 19:02:00 -
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Lucrezia LeGrand wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:We can all use those weapons so same goes for all. Might be feeling the rail Rifle a bit 2 much at the moment because it-¦s fresh/new and so many using it. But it does leave a scratch on our suits.. Thats 4 sure. This. I don't think the RR is overused because it's OP, rather it's new and people love new things. Personally, I like the RR and will spec into it, but d*** if it doesn't sound really annoying. I hope CCP changes the sound effects of the RR because I hate it as it is. *pew pew pew*
I like the sound X-D.
It will force people to use shields, for sure.
Common sense will prevail. Adapt or die.
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Beyond Creation
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
27
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Posted - 2013.12.11 19:04:00 -
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Lazy Scumbag wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:All I hear is wah wah that rifle does damage to armor how am i going to survie now wah wah nerf nerf nerf. Dude RR has a charge up time and if you strafe you can dodge it Skill into another racial suit and see how you like it. Armor has always been at a disadvantage in this game. I ran Gallente assault suits from the first day they were available. Almost always advanced fits. Have recently been running standard tier Caldari assault suits, and they are so much more survivable. There is no balance, and CCP has been making multiple changes to gear all at once without regard to the players who wasted sp. Example: swarm damage and range nerfed in one shot. I saw five people using swarms against one dropship earlier (at once), dropship got away.
Swarms dont do **** to shielded dropships unless you have about four volleys in less than 5 seconds cuz the passive unskilled recharge rate is like 200 sumthin after 8 sec and it fills fast
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