So, according to the forums, the RR, the CR and the SR are all overpowered. Considering the fact that they are the most used weapons currently, and make up 75% of all rifles, wouldn't that just make the AR (plasma rifle) underpowered?

Question, were you in the correct range for the RR, and I'm guessing you were close with the CR?

I've been watching the feeds and all rifles seem to be regularly appearing, RR and CR especially because "OMGNEWSTUFFS"

Railguns are Caldari tech which are ok to use since the Caldari are our allies. The CR on the other hand is a gas operated, bullet flinging, piece of antiquated tech that the subhuman Matari improvised in an attempt to save their hides.

Sorry but you can't just play two games with one test for each rifle and make an educated factual conclusion. That doesn't give you any evidence that they are overpowered. You have just been part of a game where you were in the right place at the right time or perhaps your a CQC battle guy in which the Combat Rifle is meant for. I had games with the rail rifle and went 34 and 2 at just base level but other times i couldn't do squat. You need multiple test samples under many different environments including a proto stomp area, new-berry area and etc. Besides have you consider the ammunition consumption of the gun? You burn through ammo like its going out of style. You sir, are why we can't have nice things.

Isn't this how racism and stereotyping starts? Oh look 2 black guys are good at basketball...I guess that means ALL BLACK PEOPLE ARE GOOD AT BASKETBALL!

First match on my main i took my recruit BPO and tried it with the rail and the CR.
Rail won tremendously.
Don't CQC with the RR? Seems to be my advice.
Railrifles are easy as $h1t to counter: peekaboo and burstfire.
On the other hand, the RR wins unanimously at the Adv tier around 80 or so meters.
RR also has no recoil for the first 3-5 shots. So burst fire it.

Fighting at long range.

Enemy in a Prototype Gallente Assault Suit, with the Standard model of Combat Rifle.
Me in a Militia Caldari Assault Suit (Starter Fit, obviously), with the Standard model of Rail Rifle.

I have maxed Shield and Armour skills, for the best durability SP can buy, and I have a pair of Militia Shield Extender BPOs for the worst durability AUR can buy.

No, I wasn't fitted in such a way that I stood any chance of actually WINNING, but kitten did I come close. By the time I died, he was down to less than 1/4 armour. Shields pretty much insta-vanished when I opened fire.

I could be wrong, but I think a Protosuit should be expected to survive that encounter. Both weapons are in a relatively effective range, both are equal level, but mine was in optimum range bracket and his was firing outside its preferred range. He had a distinct HP advantage because of an upgraded suit, and I still did a LOT of damage before going down.

I will say that it felt like a LITTLE too long a range to be dying that fast to what's supposed to be a CQC weapon, so maybe loosen up the shot spread a bit or something to make it less effective at that kind of range, but other than that, the only problem I have is the same issue I have with a lot of other weapons in DUST. After hit detection fixes (thanks for that, by the way), it now feels like TTK is slightly lower than I'd prefer for this kind of tactical combat with super-energy-shielded nanotech cyborg clones.

So I decided to try out the two new weapons today, this is how I made my judgement relatively fair:
- both times I had only the rifle level 1 skill learned.
- I used the standard rifle of each.
- I used the same gear, Amarr Assault A/1 with two shield extenders, one armour extender and a repairer.
- I played both games in Amarr Factional Warfare, both games were full duration.

My K/D is 2.36 and W/L is 1.1.

And out came the results:
Rail Rifle - 5 kills, 6 deaths.
Combat Rifle - 21 kills, 4 deaths.

I haven't played Dust 514 for several weeks, and with no skill at all I popped out a very good result with the Combat Rifle... It is immensely overpowered and easy to use compared to the Rail Rifle. I am calling for a damage nerf. It seems that with about 4-5 bursts I can kill an enemy, whereas the Rail Rifle requires a much larger degree of skill to use.





EDIT - some people are misinterpreting my test purpose:

I am NOT TESTING THE WEAPONS ABILITY. I am testing how EASY IT IS TO USE on first impressions. I picked them both up and decided how much skill they require to use... and the Combat Rifle clearly requires much less skill.

So I decided to try out the two new weapons today, this is how I made my judgement relatively fair:
- both times I had only the rifle level 1 skill learned.
- I used the standard rifle of each.
- I used the same gear, Amarr Assault A/1 with two shield extenders, one armour extender and a repairer.
- I played both games in Amarr Factional Warfare, both games were full duration.

My K/D is 2.36 and W/L is 1.1.

And out came the results:
Rail Rifle - 5 kills, 6 deaths.
Combat Rifle - 21 kills, 4 deaths.

I haven't played Dust 514 for several weeks, and with no skill at all I popped out a very good result with the Combat Rifle... It is immensely overpowered and easy to use compared to the Rail Rifle. I am calling for a damage nerf. It seems that with about 4-5 bursts I can kill an enemy, whereas the Rail Rifle requires a much larger degree of skill to use.





EDIT - some people are misinterpreting my test purpose:

I am NOT TESTING THE WEAPONS ABILITY. I am testing how EASY IT IS TO USE on first impressions. I picked them both up and decided how much skill they require to use... and the Combat Rifle clearly requires much less skill.

So I decided to try out the two new weapons today, this is how I made my judgement relatively fair:
- both times I had only the rifle level 1 skill learned.
- I used the standard rifle of each.
- I used the same gear, Amarr Assault A/1 with two shield extenders, one armour extender and a repairer.
- I played both games in Amarr Factional Warfare, both games were full duration.

My K/D is 2.36 and W/L is 1.1.

And out came the results:
Rail Rifle - 5 kills, 6 deaths.
Combat Rifle - 21 kills, 4 deaths.

I haven't played Dust 514 for several weeks, and with no skill at all I popped out a very good result with the Combat Rifle... It is immensely overpowered and easy to use compared to the Rail Rifle. I am calling for a damage nerf. It seems that with about 4-5 bursts I can kill an enemy, whereas the Rail Rifle requires a much larger degree of skill to use.





EDIT - some people are misinterpreting my test purpose:

I am NOT TESTING THE WEAPONS ABILITY. I am testing how EASY IT IS TO USE on first impressions. I picked them both up and decided how much skill they require to use... and the Combat Rifle clearly requires much less skill.

So I decided to try out the two new weapons today, this is how I made my judgement relatively fair:
- both times I had only the rifle level 1 skill learned.
- I used the standard rifle of each.
- I used the same gear, Amarr Assault A/1 with two shield extenders, one armour extender and a repairer.
- I played both games in Amarr Factional Warfare, both games were full duration.

My K/D is 2.36 and W/L is 1.1.

And out came the results:
Rail Rifle - 5 kills, 6 deaths.
Combat Rifle - 21 kills, 4 deaths.

I haven't played Dust 514 for several weeks, and with no skill at all I popped out a very good result with the Combat Rifle... It is immensely overpowered and easy to use compared to the Rail Rifle. I am calling for a damage nerf. It seems that with about 4-5 bursts I can kill an enemy, whereas the Rail Rifle requires a much larger degree of skill to use.





EDIT - some people are misinterpreting my test purpose:

I am NOT TESTING THE WEAPONS ABILITY. I am testing how EASY IT IS TO USE on first impressions. I picked them both up and decided how much skill they require to use... and the Combat Rifle clearly requires much less skill.

Aaaannd now comes the "nerf combat rifle" threads.

F*** you. Stop the D*** nerf threads. No one can have anything nice without some jackoff trying to get a weapon nerfed. So you had one good game, big F***** deal. The CR and the RR are fine and should be left alone. We are have more pressing manners to attend to like Tank Spam, match making, and the release of all racial suits just to name a few.

Sounds like you fight mostly close range?

Not surprised this is coming up. everyone called it.

Nerf anything minmatar

Or nerf anything Caldari