Its really fun to see people misinterpreting what someone wrote and then raging about that misinterpretation.

Don't you think this should've been resolved in Alpha? Almost 2 years and they can't get this game right. I had my hopes, but it looks like no DICE.

Do people even read the things they are linking? In no point does it say that TTK is 'working as intended'

Learn to read you idiots.

What did they do to my baby?

I read the link. It sounds like CCP Remnant is happy where we are now... I am not happy where we are now.
Also, did they "fix" it? It better still be the same weapon that it was before, or I really won't have a reason to play Dust anymore.

Try re reading it yourself. Instead of quoting one sentence comprehend the whole paragraph as whole. Good luck.

First and foremost, combat should be fun. Long TTK is not fun if itGÇÖs the result of loose controls, poor aim assists or dance-strafing/bunny-hopping combat GÇô all problems that DUST has suffered from in the past. The work weGÇÖve done on aim and control systems has only really come together in the last few months, and this combined with recent changes to weapon range have been the biggest culprits behind the shorter TTK. ItGÇÖs taken us longer than weGÇÖd have liked, but I do believe that the second-to-second combat in DUST is more enjoyable than itGÇÖs ever been. Not perfect, but a lot better. DUST is very much a game about outcomes and so the TTK IGÇÖd like to see in DUST is one long enough for the differences in dropsuit fittings (be that higher damage, more HP or faster regen) to help shape the outcome, but short enough to not have to dance around my opponent until one of us is mercifully put out of our misery; that fine line where the edge given by twitch skill or a smart fitting blurs and the outcome becomes unpredictable. Beyond that, though, is the minute-to-minute battlefield experience, the sort of timescale where squad play, tactics and combined roles become a larger factor in the outcome of a firefight, and this is an area that will get significant attention going forward.

I would think the fact that they finally fixed hit detection would get peopleGÇÖs hops up. Fixing the TTK is much easier than fixing hit detection. CCP is a company which has never produced a FPS before. Now they are a company which have produced a FPS with mostly functioning hit detection. I would say they are learning and improving. If I wanted to play a game that did things the way they have always been done, I would not be playing a CCP game.

First and foremost, combat should be fun. Long TTK is not fun if itGÇÖs the result of loose controls, poor aim assists or dance-strafing/bunny-hopping combat GÇô all problems that DUST has suffered from in the past. The work weGÇÖve done on aim and control systems has only really come together in the last few months, and this combined with recent changes to weapon range have been the biggest culprits behind the shorter TTK. ItGÇÖs taken us longer than weGÇÖd have liked, but I do believe that the second-to-second combat in DUST is more enjoyable than itGÇÖs ever been. Not perfect, but a lot better.

DUST is very much a game about outcomes and so the TTK IGÇÖd like to see in DUST is one long enough for the differences in dropsuit fittings (be that higher damage, more HP or faster regen) to help shape the outcome,

but short enough to not have to dance around my opponent until one of us is mercifully put out of our misery;

that fine line where the edge given by twitch skill or a smart fitting blurs and the outcome becomes unpredictable.

Beyond that, though, is the minute-to-minute battlefield experience, the sort of timescale where squad play, tactics and combined roles become a larger factor in the outcome of a firefight, and this is an area that will get significant attention going forward.

What makes you think I didn't read it all? Just that I didn't quote it all?

Anyway, I've re-ready it and I still don't see him saying that TTK is at the right level right now.

he quite clearly says The TTK now is good and wants the game blanaced around that.

We all thinj thats a load of rubish better tell bear not to patch cuz that was the deal breaker

he quite clearly says The TTK now is good and wants the game blanaced around that.

We all thinj thats a load of rubish better tell bear not to patch cuz that was the deal breaker

dying within a span of a couple of seconds or less is not fun.

not when ive tanked out my Logi suit as hard as i can, i don't even use damage mods on my logi suits.

the worst is when one doesnt even have enough time to ascertain where you are getting shot from.


And no not talking niche weapons like the sniper rifle MD or forge or cannon....


currently TTK is too short ..."imho"

This is why I quit. I don't even give a **** about 1.7 either.

Dev says that the state of the game is currently the best it has ever been in terms of controls, aim assist and other factors, all of which have contributed to the longer TTK in the game.

Player posts thread claiming that means they want the shorter TTK we have as a result of these problems being fixed.

This happens in spite of the dev in question directly stating that the ideal TTK would allow for weapon and defensive upgrades to come into play - meaning that shield extenders and armour plates should have some value, and that weapon mods should make enemies die faster.

GG. Reading comprehension is UP, buff plz.

Really? Who ever wanted a faster TTK!

Here is the link

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1586138#post1586138

This is why I quit. I don't even give a **** about 1.7 either.

Read din't assume, he said he didn't want MASSIVELY long TTK, we don't want people dancing around infront of each other for 12 mags of AR fire.

He wants gear to make a difference, yet still have skill involved, which is a very precise sweet spot.


Too Long and Gear is all that Matters
Too Short and its Pot Luck

I think we are on a little Too Short at the moment, but only a little, maybe 1.4 + 10%

This is why I quit. I don't even give a **** about 1.7 either.

The second to second combat is the most enjoyable its ever been.

We all think its worse its ever been. Gunfights boring all matches are on sided and anyone new to dust spends more time looking at the spawn screen then they do the rest of the game.

The problem is that he implied that it's the best it's been currently and came of as implying that it needs some work but not much. That is the core of the issue, I believe most players believe it's got ridiculously short for AR's and Scramblers where as he is saying it only needs a tweak.