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Fox Gaden
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Posted - 2013.12.10 16:36:00 -
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You misinterpreted what he said. As Spectral Clone points out, he said that TTK should be long enough that module choice matters. That means longer than the current TTK.
I expect they want to see data from all 4 Infantry Rifle variants before they do the TTK tweak. Hopefully we will see at least some minor tweaking in 1.8. |
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Posted - 2013.12.10 16:45:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Wow... That really shook my hopes for Dust...
They do realize many people got into this game because it wasn't another twitch shooter right?
The only reason I was continuing to play from time to time was my hope that CCP would increase TTK and make fittings other than armor/dual/damage tanks viable again.
My Plasma Cannon relies on a long TTK. Idk if I'm going to keep playing Dust anymore...
What shakes my hopes for DUST are people who takes a Troll at his word without actually reading what he linked, and people who actually read it but completely fail at reading comprehension. |
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Posted - 2013.12.10 16:58:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:You misinterpreted what he said. As Spectral Clone points out, he said that TTK should be long enough that module choice matters. That means longer than the current TTK. I expect they want to see data from all 4 Infantry Rifle variants before they do the TTK tweak. Hopefully we will see at least some minor tweaking in 1.8. Don't you think this should've been resolved in Alpha? Almost 2 years and they can't get this game right. I had my hopes, but it looks like no DICE.
I would think the fact that they finally fixed hit detection would get peopleGÇÖs hops up. Fixing the TTK is much easier than fixing hit detection. CCP is a company which has never produced a FPS before. Now they are a company which have produced a FPS with mostly functioning hit detection. I would say they are learning and improving. If I wanted to play a game that did things the way they have always been done, I would not be playing a CCP game. |
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:04:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:Do people even read the things they are linking? In no point does it say that TTK is 'working as intended'
Learn to read you idiots.
You get a like for using a word that I soooo want to use myself. Sometimes treating everyone with respect is so unsatisfying.  |
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:06:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Wow... That really shook my hopes for Dust...
They do realize many people got into this game because it wasn't another twitch shooter right?
The only reason I was continuing to play from time to time was my hope that CCP would increase TTK and make fittings other than armor/dual/damage tanks viable again.
My Plasma Cannon relies on a long TTK. Idk if I'm going to keep playing Dust anymore... What shakes my hopes for DUST are people who takes a Troll at his word without actually reading what he linked, and people who actually read it but completely fail at reading comprehension. By the way, did you completely miss the stealth Buff to the Plasma Cannon? What did they do to my baby?
Think Negative Space. They did nothing to your baby. Instead they nerfed vehicle health and all other forms of AV. |
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:12:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Wow... That really shook my hopes for Dust...
They do realize many people got into this game because it wasn't another twitch shooter right?
The only reason I was continuing to play from time to time was my hope that CCP would increase TTK and make fittings other than armor/dual/damage tanks viable again.
My Plasma Cannon relies on a long TTK. Idk if I'm going to keep playing Dust anymore... What shakes my hopes for DUST are people who takes a Troll at his word without actually reading what he linked, and people who actually read it but completely fail at reading comprehension. By the way, did you completely miss the stealth Buff to the Plasma Cannon? I read the link. It sounds like CCP Remnant is happy where we are now... I am not happy where we are now. Also, did they "fix" it? It better still be the same weapon that it was before, or I really won't have a reason to play Dust anymore.
Question: Do you think that with the current TTK that modules make a big difference in the outcome of a fight? Or is it all about who shoots first? Once you have answered that question, re read what the Dev said.
And yes, the Plasma Cannon is exactly the same weapon it was before. The GÇ£stealthGÇ¥ buff was to do absolutely nothing to it, while nerfing all other AV. |
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:21:00 -
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Quote:First and foremost, combat should be fun. Long TTK is not fun if itGÇÖs the result of loose controls, poor aim assists or dance-strafing/bunny-hopping combat GÇô all problems that DUST has suffered from in the past. The work weGÇÖve done on aim and control systems has only really come together in the last few months, and this combined with recent changes to weapon range have been the biggest culprits behind the shorter TTK. ItGÇÖs taken us longer than weGÇÖd have liked, but I do believe that the second-to-second combat in DUST is more enjoyable than itGÇÖs ever been. Not perfect, but a lot better.
Hit detection fixed. Yeah.
Quote:DUST is very much a game about outcomes and so the TTK IGÇÖd like to see in DUST is one long enough for the differences in dropsuit fittings (be that higher damage, more HP or faster regen) to help shape the outcome,
Needs to be longer than it is now.
Quote:but short enough to not have to dance around my opponent until one of us is mercifully put out of our misery;
Will still need to use cover.
Quote:that fine line where the edge given by twitch skill or a smart fitting blurs and the outcome becomes unpredictable.
CCP still wants a FPS vet who is new to the game to have a chance against a DUST vet in a Proto suit.
Quote:Beyond that, though, is the minute-to-minute battlefield experience, the sort of timescale where squad play, tactics and combined roles become a larger factor in the outcome of a firefight, and this is an area that will get significant attention going forward. |
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:25:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:he quite clearly says The TTK now is good and wants the game blanaced around that.
We all thinj thats a load of rubish better tell bear not to patch cuz that was the deal breaker
He quite clearly said that Hit Detection now is good and wants the TTK balanced around that. |
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