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Thanatus Sleep 64	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:22:00 - [1] - Quote So fast you can't kill. Great men are forged in fire. It is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame. Whatever the cost. > Warrior Doctor
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11141	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:32:00 - [2] - Quote Send another tank after it. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Infantry Armoring =// Unlocked
Ranger SnakeBlood OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 235	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:36:00 - [3] - Quote Thats not a counter if the only counter for z is z or z+ theres something wrong, granted i dont actually know if the tank speed is op have yet to play 1.7 just a responce to the send another tank responce
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 302	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:36:00 - [4] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Send another tank after it. Someone here has some brains. Tanker/Logi Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry. -Spkr4theDead
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1316	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:39:00 - [5] - Quote Ranger SnakeBlood wrote: Thats not a counter if the only counter for z is z or z+ theres something wrong, granted i dont actually know if the tank speed is op have yet to play 1.7 just a responce to the send another tank responce On the contrary, tank speed is a VERY good thing. It means tanks have more of a "shock trooper" role. Come in, do massive damage, and leave for a minute of whatever. If you have a proto AV squad keeping watch it'll probably be pretty reasonable to kill these tanks but otherwise, if left uncontested, these things will be able to do good damage again! (which is what they wanted I believe). Marston VC, STB Member
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1458	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:39:00 - [6] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Send another tank after it. OH SNAP! Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 377	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:40:00 - [7] - Quote Ranger SnakeBlood wrote: Thats not a counter if the only counter for z is z or z+ theres something wrong, granted i dont actually know if the tank speed is op have yet to play 1.7 just a responce to the send another tank responce
Booker DaFooker Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 177	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:40:00 - [8] - Quote Thanatus Sleep wrote: So fast you can't kill. Faster than swarms? I fear not Bullshit Baffles Brains
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11141	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:41:00 - [9] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Send another tank after it. OH SNAP! Thats how I lost my third maduger of the day. I was harassing the hell out of a group at one capture point, their tank blows me to bits while it caught me in the middle of a reload >< I should have brought my missile tank out considering it does full vehicle damage. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Infantry Armoring =// Unlocked
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. 1302	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:42:00 - [10] - Quote They are fast. I am wondering if my prox mines will hit a full speed HAV. About to find out. We need a web for sure now. Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.

DeadlyAztec11 2674	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:43:00 - [11] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Ranger SnakeBlood wrote: Thats not a counter if the only counter for z is z or z+ theres something wrong, granted i dont actually know if the tank speed is op have yet to play 1.7 just a responce to the send another tank responce On the contrary, tank speed is a VERY good thing. It means tanks have more of a "shock trooper" role. Come in, do massive damage, and leave for a minute of whatever. If you have a proto AV squad keeping watch it'll probably be pretty reasonable to kill these tanks but otherwise, if left uncontested, these things will be able to do good damage again! (which is what they wanted I believe). AV squads are the easiest units to kill in the game, they lack tank, speed and stealth. One guy with a Militia AR and you can take half of them out no problem. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4135	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:45:00 - [12] - Quote And so it begins the great tank vs av wars again!
Thanatus Sleep 64	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:45:00 - [13] - Quote swarms suck balls now. TANK 514 Great men are forged in fire. It is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame. Whatever the cost. > Warrior Doctor
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2964	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:47:00 - [14] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Marston VC wrote: Ranger SnakeBlood wrote: Thats not a counter if the only counter for z is z or z+ theres something wrong, granted i dont actually know if the tank speed is op have yet to play 1.7 just a responce to the send another tank responce On the contrary, tank speed is a VERY good thing. It means tanks have more of a "shock trooper" role. Come in, do massive damage, and leave for a minute of whatever. If you have a proto AV squad keeping watch it'll probably be pretty reasonable to kill these tanks but otherwise, if left uncontested, these things will be able to do good damage again! (which is what they wanted I believe). AV squads are the easiest units to kill in the game, they lack tank, speed and stealth. One guy with a Militia AR and you can take half of them out no problem. What are they all logis, have they no sidearms? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 2 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Yagihige Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 433	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:49:00 - [15] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: They are fast. I am wondering if my prox mines will hit a full speed HAV. About to find out. We need a web for sure now. Did FoxFour actually reveal the surprise? Because now you said that it remind me he hinted it was something that contains and that the surprise would be somthing like a picture... So it would be neat if they were to show a picture of the web equipment. em ta kool t'nod
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 311	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:49:00 - [16] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: And so it begins the great tank vs av wars again! Did your REALLY expect something different? This was so obvious to forsee and just wait for the buff AR threads...
Ranger SnakeBlood OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 237	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:52:00 - [17] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Ranger SnakeBlood wrote: Thats not a counter if the only counter for z is z or z+ theres something wrong, granted i dont actually know if the tank speed is op have yet to play 1.7 just a responce to the send another tank responce On the contrary, tank speed is a VERY good thing. It means tanks have more of a "shock trooper" role. Come in, do massive damage, and leave for a minute of whatever. If you have a proto AV squad keeping watch it'll probably be pretty reasonable to kill these tanks but otherwise, if left uncontested, these things will be able to do good damage again! (which is what they wanted I believe). I dont disagee with that but thats a role that id prefer to see filled by some sort of fast assualt vehicle rather than the games version of a MBT which in my eyes should be for providing fire support to advancing infantry and breaking enemy positions and putting the hostile fortifications and fortified positions but thats a different topic and cant be talked about due to lack of content, Either way thats all well and good i dont have problem as long as good AV can take out good tank, if it takes a tank to take out a tank we have a real problem that needs addressing but as ive said i dont know this to be true yet as i have yet to play this build. Also well played Marston in last PC battle i hate that scrambler lol pure minmatar shield guy here
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 222	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:58:00 - [18] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Ranger SnakeBlood wrote: Thats not a counter if the only counter for z is z or z+ theres something wrong, granted i dont actually know if the tank speed is op have yet to play 1.7 just a responce to the send another tank responce On the contrary, tank speed is a VERY good thing. It means tanks have more of a "shock trooper" role. Come in, do massive damage, and leave for a minute of whatever. If you have a proto AV squad keeping watch it'll probably be pretty reasonable to kill these tanks but otherwise, if left uncontested, these things will be able to do good damage again! (which is what they wanted I believe). Ill have to reserve judgement on this one, it really depends how easy they are to destroy, to add high speed to a unit that already has so many advantages against infantry it has to have something else lowered to be balanced. If this becomes the game of troll tank 514, where they role in, blow the ** out if everyone and leave, this ** is going to get real old real fast.
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Zero-Day 1972	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:59:00 - [19] - Quote so now i can get the hell out and actually SURVIVE? I love 1.7 even though im getting an ammo nerf Gÿ£GÿàGÿPWhen Using These Forums You Must Remember To explain Logical Thinking To These ChildrenGÿ£GÿàGÿP
Thanatus Sleep 64	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:08:00 - [20] - Quote Time to skill back in to Tank. Great men are forged in fire. It is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame. Whatever the cost. > Warrior Doctor

Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 328	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:10:00 - [21] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Send another tank after it. No more rock, paper, scissors, it's just tank>infantry, is it? No wonder the game is dying with geniuses like this running things.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 801	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:10:00 - [22] - Quote Thanatus Sleep wrote: So fast you can't kill. you're kidding me right? you do realize they got a speed nerf since 1.6 right? "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout, tanker. CLOSED BETA VET
Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 230	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:12:00 - [23] - Quote I was ..... right next to him .......my forge was charging up for the final blow...I blinked .. and he was gone speeding around the corner like a LAV ......from a complete standstill.. I was like wtf just happened ? No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1659	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:13:00 - [24] - Quote Thanatus Sleep wrote: swarms suck balls now. TANK 514 You mean, now that you have to actively hunt tanks you suck. AV were and are now scrubs 514. If your not pulling up on a tank with another player throwing av nades followed by swarms as they try to run then you are doing it wrong anyway. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1659	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:16:00 - [25] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Send another tank after it. No more rock, paper, scissors, it's just tank>infantry, is it? No wonder the game is dying with geniuses like this running things. I'm shocked that you of all people say that, two people will blow a tank up no problem so what is the problem? All I see are solo av people butthurt they can't solo now. The tanks in ww2 needed teams to take out so clearly a behemoth 22 thousand years in the future will need two guys. The problem isn't the tanks, its solo av barbarian's. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11150	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:19:00 - [26] - Quote Ahem Its Tank Rock <> Tank Paper <> Tank Scissors now. I am sure you can squeeze in a LAV in it. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Rail and Combat Rifle =// Unlocked
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 223	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:25:00 - [27] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Send another tank after it. No more rock, paper, scissors, it's just tank>infantry, is it? No wonder the game is dying with geniuses like this running things. I'm shocked that you of all people say that, two people will blow a tank up no problem so what is the problem? All I see are solo av people butthurt they can't solo now. The tanks in ww2 needed teams to take out so clearly a behemoth 22 thousand years in the future will need two guys. The problem isn't the tanks, its solo av barbarian's. Someone's been drinking the tank coolant too often. Neither vehicles or AV are supposed to have an empirical advantage. If so a squad with just two tanks on the field would already have 12.5% more equivalent infantry on the ground, vehicles are not a replacement for teamwork. Because of this, one tank should be a me to take out one AV guy and vice versa.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 578	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:28:00 - [28] - Quote Thanatus Sleep wrote: So fast you can't kill. Give it Atleast 48 hours before we make a list of new GOD modes and FOTM may be ?!
Thanatus Sleep 64	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:29:00 - [29] - Quote You do know I was a Tanker in close beta. Right now it 1.5X faster now. Why nerf the AV if the Tanker can move fast to cover now, unlike the last few built. Just wait till we get advanced tank back with that god speed. Tank 514 Great men are forged in fire. It is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame. Whatever the cost. > Warrior Doctor
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 82	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:30:00 - [30] - Quote lol. ikr. you tryed useing a fckn complex prop mod with those maddy's

TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1659	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:30:00 - [31] - Quote Slag Emberforge wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Send another tank after it. No more rock, paper, scissors, it's just tank>infantry, is it? No wonder the game is dying with geniuses like this running things. I'm shocked that you of all people say that, two people will blow a tank up no problem so what is the problem? All I see are solo av people butthurt they can't solo now. The tanks in ww2 needed teams to take out so clearly a behemoth 22 thousand years in the future will need two guys. The problem isn't the tanks, its solo av barbarian's. Someone's been drinking the tank coolant too often. Neither vehicles or AV are supposed to have an empirical advantage. If so a squad with just two tanks on the field would already have 12.5% more equivalent infantry on the ground, vehicles are not a replacement for teamwork. Because of this, one tank should be a me to take out one AV guy and vice versa. Someone's projecting what they think it should be like as opposed to how it should be. A tank IS an advantage, you get in a tank to gain a slaying advantage, its not a tin can mate, the whole point of a tank is so your side gains an advantage, you don't bring a tank onto the field because theres no advantage do you lol Its a tank ffs and my point still stands as you can clearly tell from the game and reality. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1659	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:32:00 - [32] - Quote Me and a corp mate can demolish any tank within seconds. Solo av barbarians. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 230	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:32:00 - [33] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Ahem Its Tank Rock <> Tank Paper <> Tank Scissors now. I am sure you can squeeze in a LAV in it. SO ... Sab any word about putting WP for AV damage back in ? No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
LudiKure ninda Black Phoenix Mercenaries 54	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:34:00 - [34] - Quote tank 514 finaly :DDD I can finaly stomp infantry with my tank until rail/mislle tank comes in
Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 230	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:35:00 - [35] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Me and a corp mate can demolish any tank within seconds. Solo av barbarians. Which one of you gets paid ? Or do you switch of the kill shot ? When did AV become playing the frigging lottery in order to make a profit ? No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11153	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:36:00 - [36] - Quote Gelan Corbaine wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Ahem Its Tank Rock <> Tank Paper <> Tank Scissors now. I am sure you can squeeze in a LAV in it. SO ... Sab any word about putting WP for AV damage back in ? I need a few days to see the environment through. Right now I feel a hell lot safer calling a tank down for some odd reason to engage other tanks at least. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Rail and Combat Rifle =// Unlocked
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1659	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:36:00 - [37] - Quote Gelan Corbaine wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Me and a corp mate can demolish any tank within seconds. Solo av barbarians. Which one of you gets paid ? Or do you switch of the kill shot ? When did AV become playing the frigging lottery in order to make a profit ? I have no idea what that has to do with anything. You sir are clearly a solo av scrubber, posts hidden, good day. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 1161	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:37:00 - [38] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Marston VC wrote: Ranger SnakeBlood wrote: Thats not a counter if the only counter for z is z or z+ theres something wrong, granted i dont actually know if the tank speed is op have yet to play 1.7 just a responce to the send another tank responce On the contrary, tank speed is a VERY good thing. It means tanks have more of a "shock trooper" role. Come in, do massive damage, and leave for a minute of whatever. If you have a proto AV squad keeping watch it'll probably be pretty reasonable to kill these tanks but otherwise, if left uncontested, these things will be able to do good damage again! (which is what they wanted I believe). AV squads are the easiest units to kill in the game, they lack tank, speed and stealth. One guy with a Militia AR and you can take half of them out no problem. I've gone slaying with a swarm+SMG fit. Don't give me the ''AV Players are defenseless'' crap. If they can't defend themselves with an SMG, that their fault. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Level 1 Forum Warrior The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 223	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:40:00 - [39] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Slag Emberforge wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Send another tank after it. No more rock, paper, scissors, it's just tank>infantry, is it? No wonder the game is dying with geniuses like this running things. I'm shocked that you of all people say that, two people will blow a tank up no problem so what is the problem? All I see are solo av people butthurt they can't solo now. The tanks in ww2 needed teams to take out so clearly a behemoth 22 thousand years in the future will need two guys. The problem isn't the tanks, its solo av barbarian's. Someone's been drinking the tank coolant too often. Neither vehicles or AV are supposed to have an empirical advantage. If so a squad with just two tanks on the field would already have 12.5% more equivalent infantry on the ground, vehicles are not a replacement for teamwork. Because of this, one tank should be a me to take out one AV guy and vice versa. Someone's projecting what they think it should be like as opposed to how it should be. A tank IS an advantage, you get in a tank to gain a slaying advantage, its not a tin can mate, the whole point of a tank is so your side gains an advantage, you don't bring a tank onto the field because theres no advantage do you lol Its a tank ffs and my point still stands as you can clearly tell from the game and reality. It's been said before it'll be said again, this game is risk vs reward, tanks are a game changer without the appropriate counter on the field, and while tanks are literally superior ok every way to infantry, av is not. To allow for fun competitive play, bringing out tanks can't be considered a "win button" I don't give a **** how much your tank costs, it doesn't make sense that one side requires teamwork and the other requires none. Also don't bring realism into this argument, not only does it not have a place in dust, it also only leads you to being wrong. One Javelin can take out a tank. Mini-guns are accurate to 600m, and mass drivers equivalent the m203, has a 15ft KILL radius per shot.
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 223	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:44:00 - [40] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Marston VC wrote: Ranger SnakeBlood wrote: Thats not a counter if the only counter for z is z or z+ theres something wrong, granted i dont actually know if the tank speed is op have yet to play 1.7 just a responce to the send another tank responce On the contrary, tank speed is a VERY good thing. It means tanks have more of a "shock trooper" role. Come in, do massive damage, and leave for a minute of whatever. If you have a proto AV squad keeping watch it'll probably be pretty reasonable to kill these tanks but otherwise, if left uncontested, these things will be able to do good damage again! (which is what they wanted I believe). AV squads are the easiest units to kill in the game, they lack tank, speed and stealth. One guy with a Militia AR and you can take half of them out no problem. I've gone slaying with a swarm+SMG fit. Don't give me the ''AV Players are defenseless'' crap. If they can't defend themselves with an SMG, that their fault. SMGs are awesome, until you get riddled at 60 meters by an assault rifle or SCR. Good luck killing anyone of equivalent gear at that range. Also wasting the time to shoot them can easily allow vehicles to escape, now more than ever.

Thanatus Sleep 65	Posted - 2013.12.10 14:33:00 - [41] - Quote Yup NEW God Mode. Great men are forged in fire. It is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame. Whatever the cost. > Warrior Doctor
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 822	Posted - 2013.12.10 14:35:00 - [42] - Quote Booker DaFooker wrote: Thanatus Sleep wrote: So fast you can't kill. Faster than swarms? I fear not sharp turn and 50% of the missile crash into the ground during the attempt to realign to the new direction. this is how it has always been which I mentioned several times but obviously nobody cared, just the usual CoD kids responded with some troll posts. welcome to tanks 514
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1661	Posted - 2013.12.10 14:43:00 - [43] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: Booker DaFooker wrote: Thanatus Sleep wrote: So fast you can't kill. Faster than swarms? I fear not sharp turn and 50% of the missile crash into the ground during the attempt to realign to the new direction. this is how it has always been which I mentioned several times but obviously nobody cared about swarm pathing once a certain speed is reached, just the usual CoD kids responded with some troll posts. welcome to tanks 514 Oh look another solo av barbarian who calls people cod kids yet wants to solo tanks, you are a fool who is good a trolling, posts also hidden. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 822	Posted - 2013.12.10 14:55:00 - [44] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Booker DaFooker wrote: Thanatus Sleep wrote: So fast you can't kill. Faster than swarms? I fear not sharp turn and 50% of the missile crash into the ground during the attempt to realign to the new direction. this is how it has always been which I mentioned several times but obviously nobody cared about swarm pathing once a certain speed is reached, just the usual CoD kids responded with some troll posts. welcome to tanks 514 Oh look another solo av barbarian who calls people cod kids yet wants to solo tanks, you are a fool who is good a trolling, posts also hidden. please try again when you are able to provide something of value with some arguments instead of this pathetic troll answer all you have done is just make yourself look stupid. first of all, as long as you can drive a tank solo a solo player should be able to hold a tank off. this is not rocket science, as soon as a tank is equal more than a single suit you create an arfiticial balance issue which turns the game into "the team with more tanks win" and to clear things up, pre patch tanks were not soloable when driven by a nonscrub. the problem was that AV scaled too fast compared to tanks and tanks were a bit too low on hp. I posted the math several times how long it takes to down a SP maxed tank with proper fit solo pre patch moths ago and the question is, what was the tank driver doing in those 20 to 30 seconds while being shot by a single guy? masturbating? tank whines only serve a single thing, highlight which player is just bad at tank driving. I also warned when tank vehicle changes were announced that 20k+ehp is already much and every further change has to be done with cauiton but instead of only changaing tanks the devs also have thrown AV nerf into it the mix. now we have vehicles with 20k+ ehp and AV weaponry doing 30% less damage. now you have the complete opposite to before, sooner or later tanks will get nerfed again and histroy repeats.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1479	Posted - 2013.12.10 15:04:00 - [45] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Send another tank after it. I love you, cause you get it!!! "HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete." GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 272	Posted - 2013.12.10 15:12:00 - [46] - Quote I just witnessed a flurry of tank on tank combat, and it was hilarious. Watching these things zoom around like go-carts and shooting each other...just hilarious. Totally ignored me, a lone infantryman amid a tornado of tank violence. I saw one injured Madrugar try to retreat, but he was so fast that he zoomed backwards and hit a rock formation that was a good 15-20 ft behind him, and instantly exploded. Careful tankers, that speed might turn into your enemy!
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1486	Posted - 2013.12.10 15:15:00 - [47] - Quote Forge Gun needs a buff.... .... ... what? The answer is "ForgeGun"... doesnt matter what the question is...
Caeli SineDeo Imperfects Negative-Feedback 724	Posted - 2013.12.10 15:21:00 - [48] - Quote Thanatus Sleep wrote: swarms suck balls now. TANK 514 Na just sounds like you suck balls and are used to easy mode swarms. They have pampered you way to long and now you lost your ability to think. Going after a tank when it is hardened will only lose you your battle. You need to watch how it engages and then watch what they do when they disengage. Next time they engage go to where they pull out and you will have a easy kill with a tank that has no hardeners on.
Ghermard-ol Dizeriois Maphia Clan Corporation 18	Posted - 2013.12.10 15:23:00 - [49] - Quote At least tanks are not flying for the whole time... Aren't they, right? If you're an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 148	Posted - 2013.12.10 15:29:00 - [50] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Send another tank after it. No more rock, paper, scissors, it's just tank>infantry, is it? No wonder the game is dying with geniuses like this running things. I'm shocked that you of all people say that, two people will blow a tank up no problem so what is the problem? All I see are solo av people butthurt they can't solo now. The tanks in ww2 needed teams to take out so clearly a behemoth 22 thousand years in the future will need two guys. The problem isn't the tanks, its solo av barbarian's. 12 year old German children were able to solo tanks in WW2 with a Panzerfaust. Tanks can be taken out solo in today's wars. But to be totally honest there shouldn't even be any tanks in the future. The advanced weaponry and drones would render them useless.

Thanatus Sleep 66	Posted - 2013.12.10 15:31:00 - [51] - Quote Caeli SineDeo wrote: Thanatus Sleep wrote: swarms suck balls now. TANK 514 Na just sounds like you suck balls and are used to easy mode swarms. They have pampered you way to long and now you lost your ability to think. Going after a tank when it is hardened will only lose you your battle. You need to watch how it engages and then watch what they do when they disengage. Next time they engage go to where they pull out and you will have a easy kill with a tank that has no hardeners on. Yeah it take skill to speed back to the red line and roof FG is skill. Don't know why guy keep give tip about tank that I know seen beta. Great men are forged in fire. It is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame. Whatever the cost. > Warrior Doctor
Thanatus Sleep 66	Posted - 2013.12.10 15:33:00 - [52] - Quote Ghermard-ol Dizeriois wrote: At least tanks are not flying for the whole time... Aren't they, right? Tank can fly for .5 sec now going full speed. LOL, Ram a tank it funny as hell. Great men are forged in fire. It is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame. Whatever the cost. > Warrior Doctor
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4141	Posted - 2013.12.10 15:34:00 - [53] - Quote Its pretty unbeiliavable as a forger I took a shot at a tank at my maximum range got his attention and he drove the distance before I could get my third shot out, now I did not have an lav close to me, so I was toast cause I had no where to run so after throwing my 3 proto av nades I was space particles. The speed is wish my scout suit could carry the damn forge. Tactics are a changing
Thanatus Sleep 66	Posted - 2013.12.10 15:39:00 - [54] - Quote Tank speed now is how scout need to be. LOL Great men are forged in fire. It is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame. Whatever the cost. > Warrior Doctor
Thumb Green Novashift 560	Posted - 2013.12.10 16:10:00 - [55] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Send another tank after it. No more rock, paper, scissors, it's just tank>infantry, is it? No wonder the game is dying with geniuses like this running things. I'm shocked that you of all people say that, two people will blow a tank up no problem so what is the problem? All I see are solo av people butthurt they can't solo now. The tanks in ww2 needed teams to take out so clearly a behemoth 22 thousand years in the future will need two guys. The problem isn't the tanks, its solo av barbarian's. Someone doesn't know their ww2 weaponry very well. Say hello to the Panzerfaust "was operated by a single soldier", "The weapon, when correctly fired from the crook of the arm, could with its shaped charge warhead penetrate the armor of any armoured fighting vehicle of the period." Never mind the president, let's overgrow the government.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 823	Posted - 2013.12.10 16:16:00 - [56] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Send another tank after it. No more rock, paper, scissors, it's just tank>infantry, is it? No wonder the game is dying with geniuses like this running things. I'm shocked that you of all people say that, two people will blow a tank up no problem so what is the problem? All I see are solo av people butthurt they can't solo now. The tanks in ww2 needed teams to take out so clearly a behemoth 22 thousand years in the future will need two guys. The problem isn't the tanks, its solo av barbarian's. Someone doesn't know their ww2 weaponry very well. Say hello to the Panzerfaust "was operated by a single soldier", "The weapon, when correctly fired from the crook of the arm, could with its shaped charge warhead penetrate the armor of any armoured fighting vehicle of the period." yeah it is really funny when some internet historians think they know something. and btw AV grenade also easily destroyed tanks because armor on tanks is thin on the top or under the tank.
D3LTA Blitzkrieg II 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 65	Posted - 2013.12.10 16:22:00 - [57] - Quote armor tanks plus active fuel injector is like a bullet shot out of a gun, OP as fuk. Nerf the speed and make some damn sense with the armor plates! Shield tank could use a little nerf in speed as well O.H Tourney Team: slaying Regnums K.D one PC at a time
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 985	Posted - 2013.12.10 16:26:00 - [58] - Quote D3LTA Blitzkrieg II wrote: armor tanks plus active fuel injector is like a bullet shot out of a gun, OP as fuk. Nerf the speed and make some damn sense with the armor plates! Shield tank could use a little nerf in speed as well agreed. vehicle combat is to twitchy. it's all about who catches the other person with their resist down. then the fight ends in 2 seconds. not very cool So about those vehicle locks...
Phaize Kilrathi Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 22	Posted - 2013.12.10 16:45:00 - [59] - Quote Kam Elto wrote: But to be totally honest there shouldn't even be any tanks in the future. The advanced weaponry and drones would render them useless. Drone Tanks Put signature here
D3LTA Blitzkrieg II 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 65	Posted - 2013.12.10 16:47:00 - [60] - Quote KenKaniff69 wrote: D3LTA Blitzkrieg II wrote: armor tanks plus active fuel injector is like a bullet shot out of a gun, OP as fuk. Nerf the speed and make some damn sense with the armor plates! Shield tank could use a little nerf in speed as well agreed. vehicle combat is to twitchy. it's all about who catches the other person with their resist down. then the fight ends in 2 seconds. not very cool slow em down. They outrun swarms O.H Tourney Team: slaying Regnums K.D one PC at a time

KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 985	Posted - 2013.12.10 16:48:00 - [61] - Quote is it possible to fit multiple nitrous mods? So about those vehicle locks...
Thanatus Sleep 67	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:05:00 - [62] - Quote OMFG, Anyone seen a full speeding tank jumping off a high cliff doing 180 in mid air. Great men are forged in fire. It is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame. Whatever the cost. > Warrior Doctor
Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance 98	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:18:00 - [63] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Send another tank after it. Thats a horseshit repsonse and you know it. So the only counter to a tank is another tank.... yeah why are you on the cpm again?? So let me get this straight... for the price of a proto suit I can be immune to assault infantry, snipers, sneaky scouts, and even 1 suit of my dedicated counter, the AV?? Yeah thats balance for retards for you.
chase rowland The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 107	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:20:00 - [64] - Quote Slag Emberforge wrote: Marston VC wrote: Ranger SnakeBlood wrote: Thats not a counter if the only counter for z is z or z+ theres something wrong, granted i dont actually know if the tank speed is op have yet to play 1.7 just a responce to the send another tank responce On the contrary, tank speed is a VERY good thing. It means tanks have more of a "shock trooper" role. Come in, do massive damage, and leave for a minute of whatever. If you have a proto AV squad keeping watch it'll probably be pretty reasonable to kill these tanks but otherwise, if left uncontested, these things will be able to do good damage again! (which is what they wanted I believe). Ill have to reserve judgement on this one, it really depends how easy they are to destroy, to add high speed to a unit that already has so many advantages against infantry it has to have something else lowered to be balanced. If this becomes the game of troll tank 514, where they role in, blow the ** out if everyone and leave, this ** is going to get real old real fast. nobody seems to understand CCP's logic. if tanks only purpose was to take out infantry, then why are there railguns and missiles? if rendering was good then this would all balance out! I used to run a rail fit and take out tanks all day! I remember taking 6 out in 1 game. if people actually could see the enemy, then there would be no AV to attack the tanks, because the only tanks would be those behind the redline. I believe this is why tanks in RL aren't just infantry slayers.
chase rowland The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 107	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:22:00 - [65] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Send another tank after it. Thats a horseshit repsonse and you know it. So the only counter to a tank is another tank.... yeah why are you on the cpm again?? So let me get this straight... for the price of a proto suit I can be immune to assault infantry, snipers, sneaky scouts, and even 1 suit of my dedicated counter, the AV?? Yeah thats balance for retards for you. learn proper grammer.
Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance 98	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:32:00 - [66] - Quote chase rowland wrote: Crimson Cerberes wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Send another tank after it. Thats a horseshit repsonse and you know it. So the only counter to a tank is another tank.... yeah why are you on the cpm again?? So let me get this straight... for the price of a proto suit I can be immune to assault infantry, snipers, sneaky scouts, and even 1 suit of my dedicated counter, the AV?? Yeah thats balance for retards for you. learn proper grammer. Replies the poster who uses a lower case letter to start a sentence and a horribly laid out (grammatically speaking) statement.
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 304	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:42:00 - [67] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Thanatus Sleep wrote: So fast you can't kill. Give it Atleast 48 hours before we make a list of new GOD modes and FOTM may be ?! No I are have FOTM tank and I am going to use the **** out of it because of the AV scrubs had such an easy time. Tanker/Logi Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry. -Spkr4theDead
chase rowland The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 107	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:45:00 - [68] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: chase rowland wrote: Crimson Cerberes wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Send another tank after it. Thats a horseshit repsonse and you know it. So the only counter to a tank is another tank.... yeah why are you on the cpm again?? So let me get this straight... for the price of a proto suit I can be immune to assault infantry, snipers, sneaky scouts, and even 1 suit of my dedicated counter, the AV?? Yeah thats balance for retards for you. learn proper grammer. Replies the poster who uses a lower case letter to start a sentence and a horribly laid out (grammatically speaking) statement. used to my phone. it usually does it for me. cant stand keyboards (im partially paralyzed in my right arm)
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 232	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:53:00 - [69] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Send another tank after it. Thats a horseshit repsonse and you know it. So the only counter to a tank is another tank.... yeah why are you on the cpm again?? So let me get this straight... for the price of a proto suit I can be immune to assault infantry, snipers, sneaky scouts, and even 1 suit of my dedicated counter, the AV?? Yeah thats balance for retards for you. So here is balance. Assaults were scissors, AV were paper, and Vehicles were rocks Some leniency as paper could sometimes defeat scissors, rocks could occasionally beat paper. Until rock reached patch 1.7 and became an unstoppable killing machine.
Thanatus Sleep 71	Posted - 2013.12.10 20:32:00 - [70] - Quote Vote Tank FOTW Great men are forged in fire. It is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame. Whatever the cost. > Warrior Doctor

Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 14	Posted - 2013.12.10 20:47:00 - [71] - Quote I watched two hostile and one friendly tank chase each other all around the map today.. and then realized if I ever needed to get from point A to point B why would you ever call in a LAV? Tanks are so stupid fast, also AV grenades are a joke.
Piercing Serenity Fatal Absolution 451	Posted - 2013.12.11 00:04:00 - [72] - Quote Caeli SineDeo wrote: Thanatus Sleep wrote: swarms suck balls now. TANK 514 Na just sounds like you suck balls and are used to easy mode swarms. They have pampered you way to long and now you lost your ability to think. Going after a tank when it is hardened will only lose you your battle. You need to watch how it engages and then watch what they do when they disengage. Next time they engage go to where they pull out and you will have a easy kill with a tank that has no hardeners on. You're alive What do you think about the new Tank changes? You were real sensible back when you were active, and helped out a lot with figuring out rail damage. I'm curious what you think DUST 514 BETA VET 16.2M Lifetime SP SH4T --> PFBHz --> PFB --> SH4T --> Fatal
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4954	Posted - 2013.12.11 00:06:00 - [73] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Ranger SnakeBlood wrote: Thats not a counter if the only counter for z is z or z+ theres something wrong, granted i dont actually know if the tank speed is op have yet to play 1.7 just a responce to the send another tank responce On the contrary, tank speed is a VERY good thing. It means tanks have more of a "shock trooper" role. Come in, do massive damage, and leave for a minute of whatever. If you have a proto AV squad keeping watch it'll probably be pretty reasonable to kill these tanks but otherwise, if left uncontested, these things will be able to do good damage again! (which is what they wanted I believe). "Waves of opportunity" -Dev blog Never forget How to fix the Logi
Interplanetary Insanitarium 269	Posted - 2013.12.11 00:10:00 - [74] - Quote Thanatus Sleep wrote: So fast you can't kill. They're not faster than 7000 m/s. >Welcome to Bonertown U.S.A.
Thanatus Sleep 77	Posted - 2013.12.11 01:33:00 - [75] - Quote Tank ever game now, going have to skill back in to tank just to keep up BS of dust. Great men are forged in fire. It is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame. Whatever the cost. > Warrior Doctor


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