AS good as Duvolle.
It's a monster weapon.

Not true. Pg/cpu usage, rate of fire and ease of use make the duvolle easily the better weapon and why ars get nerf and scr gets buff.

I swear you people are intentionally trying to give me a stroke.

THE SCR ISN'T OP GOD DAMMIT, JUST BECAUSE IT KILLED YOU DOES NOT MAKE IT OVER POWERED FFS.

I say this all the time and no one ever listens. Semi auto weapons are hard as hell to use. Why nerf something that requires absolute skill?

Give the full auto ar a scope and the scrambler goes the way of the lone turret.

charging it does x3 the original damage output at the very least..... If it didn't there would be no way to one shot almost any suit in the game purely because of base stats. However I can guarantee you that anything with 300 hp or less can get one shotted by this gun.

I have proto SCR proficiency 4 and the proto amar assault suit and I can tell you that this gun is probably on the fine line of being OP. I played against OH guys in a PC match today and three of them were using PSCR's and it was nearly impossible to close distance on an objective because the first shot would take down 400 of my HP (95 shields, 300 armor roughly) and then a quick follow up volley of 5-8 shots would finnish me off because as you say "each shot does 102 base damage".

The fact that my armor tanked 850 EHP gallente logi suit was getting mowed down by these things means they probably need some looking into...... And I fricking use them in pubs all the time.

Lets look at it like this. In public matches (ambush) I run an amar standard assault suit with the standard scrambler rifle. Two complex shield extenders and one complex profile dampener and advanced scanner. I consistently go about 20-3 in this suit. This STANDARD suit. Even against pub stompers ill get at least a 3.0 k/d. I can 1v1 proto suits and win simply because the charge shot takes them down 300 hp and evens them out with me. In fact lately the only suit ive found to effectively counter my suit is commando/heavy suits running scrambler rifles also. They win simply because they get x4 the amount of armor I run.

In short, the scrambler rifle now is like how the LR used to be in chromosome. Cheap, easy to use, massive bursts of damage that can down an enemy before hes able to react, and becoming increasingly more common in pub matches.

I still do not comprehend why in gods name do you compare a FULL auto rifle with a SEMI auto rifle. You should compare the AR with the AsCR and both play on a even field currently the AR is slightly better but with 1.7 the AsCR will be clearly better (and yes the AR should beat the AsCR as the AsCR is the mimic variant of the AR).

If you compare the SCR to the Tac AR its obvious that the SCR is close to the old prenerfed Tac in terms of performance and the old Tac got the nerf for a reason...

I like how after months of having the scrambler rifle in the game and never changing, it has only recently become OP. Magic I tell you.

Can you go ahead and check the fitting cost?or overheat mechanic?

The old Tac was OP and the SCR is as well for the same reasons it is just slightly less OP than the Tac was...

What's the range on that puppy?


Munch

Obvious OP gun is obvious.
Duvolle is OP, ScR is god mode.

ScR user logic: "its only a little better than the duvolle, its not OP"
AR user logic: "that thing completely outclasses every weapon and melts every suit instantly"

Reality: AR is reliable and is OP consistently for everyone.
ScR is very few times unreliable because of human error on aim, but most of the time is absolute god mode and beats every other gun in the game by a long shot, even OP AR.

charging it does x3 the original damage output at the very least..... If it didn't there would be no way to one shot almost any suit in the game purely because of base stats. However I can guarantee you that anything with 300 hp or less can get one shotted by this gun.

I have proto SCR proficiency 4 and the proto amar assault suit and I can tell you that this gun is probably on the fine line of being OP. I played against OH guys in a PC match today and three of them were using PSCR's and it was nearly impossible to close distance on an objective because the first shot would take down 400 of my HP (95 shields, 300 armor roughly) and then a quick follow up volley of 5-8 shots would finnish me off because as you say "each shot does 102 base damage".

The fact that my armor tanked 850 EHP gallente logi suit was getting mowed down by these things means they probably need some looking into...... And I fricking use them in pubs all the time.

Lets look at it like this. In public matches (ambush) I run an amar standard assault suit with the standard scrambler rifle. Two complex shield extenders and one complex profile dampener and advanced scanner. I consistently go about 20-3 in this suit. This STANDARD suit. Even against pub stompers ill get at least a 3.0 k/d. I can 1v1 proto suits and win simply because the charge shot takes them down 300 hp and evens them out with me. In fact lately the only suit ive found to effectively counter my suit is commando/heavy suits running scrambler rifles also. They win simply because they get x4 the amount of armor I run.

In short, the scrambler rifle now is like how the LR used to be in chromosome. Cheap, easy to use, massive bursts of damage that can down an enemy before hes able to react, and becoming increasingly more common in pub matches.

The overheating is just a small drawback honestly you can get out roughly 18 shots and thats a whole Tac Ar clip and I highly doubt that +2 CPU and +7 PG justify roughly wice the DPS with far better Range (regarding 1.7 stats).

The old Tac was OP and the SCR is as well for the same reasons it is just slightly less OP than the Tac was...

I think all it really needs to bring the weapon in line is a bigger spread in hipfire.

I play with the scr since the big Laser nerf from uprising, wanted to stick to amarr technolog and the scr was the next best choice.

Call me stupid, but I never even tried hipfire with that weapon, strongly playing the weapon as it is supposed to be.
Recently I picked it up again ( had a little AR/LR vacation when scrs became popular) and stumbled upon the hipfire...

I like the gun as it is, but with a tactical weapon like it is supposed to be you should be forced to use ads to be succesful with it, heck i would even gibe green lights on removing the crosshair from it when hipfiring.

i'm convicted that if the weapon is used in its designed way its pretty fine, its a mid to lomgrange sniper and should just be as effective as a sniper rifle, lowering the ROF in a whole would kill the weapon, for 2 reasons:

using it while ads you have to charge up and use a quick follow burst to kill enemys, lowering the rof would make this impossible and all you could really do is harming, instead of killing enemys.

Besides that lowering the Rof what make the bonus you get from the amarr assault suit obsolete, for the lower rof would automatically grant you a slower overheat and therefore more shots, why bother using a suit which is designed to support the use of the weapon anymore?


Seriously, listen to me, I'm not trying to defend the weapon, its just lowering the rof would kill the gun, we need bigger hipfire spread, maybe even a remove of the hipfire crosshairs.


to the assault variant: yeah its pretty balanced, but is sucks balls against the AR, whenever you come to a 1v1 AR user you will lose, eventho the ascr does on paper more damage, the 50rps the ar got more combined with the precision owns from close to semi-longrange.

The Kill feeds tell you which guns are overpowered. Most kills are with ARs by far.

I love how everyone says that it's balanced because it overheats. News flash, most SCR users glitch the overheat out of the equation.