DUST Search - SCR is OP...Discuss...

Marston VC wrote:

Aisha Ctarl wrote:

Cody Sietz wrote:

Aisha Ctarl wrote:

I swear you people are intentionally trying to give me a stroke.

THE SCR ISN'T OP GOD DAMMIT, JUST BECAUSE IT KILLED YOU DOES NOT MAKE IT OVER POWERED FFS.

I guess the TAR wasn't either Roll

The TAR was an emulation of the scr, that's why it had the fire rate it did, the problem was the TAR did equal shield and armor damage while the scr wrecks shields but sucks against armor.

With proper proficiency skills the scrambler rifle can have between 80-100 damage though. Which means that its still going to do between 65-80 damage per shot on armor tanking suits. Coupled with a charge shot and a massively high RoF and small crosshairs means you can blow through almost any suit armor tanked or not. The only suit ive ever come across that is difficult to kill with this gun is a heavy suit. But even those are only difficult to kill if there using an SR as well (because you can outrange them using an SMG). And that's with my STANDARD SR....... I don't even touch my imperial SR because that nonsense would just make the game too boring.

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Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 405	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:22:00 - [1] - Quote OP- -highest DPS out of light weapons -charge shot can almost one hit heavy with shot to head -charge shot does more dmg than a sniper -Quick scope sniper rifle/ better than sniper Not OP- -has overheat ADD if you want. *Sagaris lover!!!*
Aisha Ctarl Scions of Athra 2085	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:24:00 - [2] - Quote I swear you people are intentionally trying to give me a stroke. THE SCR ISN'T OP GOD DAMMIT, JUST BECAUSE IT KILLED YOU DOES NOT MAKE IT OVER POWERED FFS. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4559	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:26:00 - [3] - Quote Has THEORETICAL highest DPS, but a normal finger can't apply it all, and even if you get turbo controller it will have huge recoil at the fire rate. Charge shot CANNOT one hit kill a heavy, even with a headshot. My proto SCR with damage mods and proficiency does 102~ damage. A charge goes to 204 damage. A headshot goes to 302 damage. It has half the range of the sniper, has no long range scope. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Miokai Zahou Film Actors Guilds 64	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:28:00 - [4] - Quote MCC is OP. It gives afters absolute protection to all combat beside FF soon. Nerf tomato because potato.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 253	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:32:00 - [5] - Quote Op:almost as good as duvoll Christ is lord Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now. Fear is a choice, I choose not to let it control me.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1242	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:32:00 - [6] - Quote Smh I'm done explaining "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4561	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:34:00 - [7] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: Op:almost as good as duvoll AS good as Duvolle. It's a monster weapon. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 639	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:38:00 - [8] - Quote What's the range on that puppy? Munch Dedicated Sniper. Minmatar Patriot.
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1071	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:38:00 - [9] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: OP- -highest DPS out of light weapons -charge shot can almost one hit heavy with shot to head -charge shot does more dmg than a sniper -Quick scope sniper rifle/ better than sniper Not OP- -has overheat ADD if you want. Anmol SCR IS my territory it is fine no buff, no nerf no touchy my SCR ._. #1 Scrambler Rifle VETERAN SINCE 514 Sick and tired of babysitting dust noobs !!!!!
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3345	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:40:00 - [10] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: I swear you people are intentionally trying to give me a stroke. THE SCR ISN'T OP GOD DAMMIT, JUST BECAUSE IT KILLED YOU DOES NOT MAKE IT OVER POWERED FFS. I should find a quote from the Duvolle Tactical Era and find the foolish people that actually defended it. Would be so relevant right now.

Aisha Ctarl Scions of Athra 2088	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:44:00 - [11] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: I swear you people are intentionally trying to give me a stroke. THE SCR ISN'T OP GOD DAMMIT, JUST BECAUSE IT KILLED YOU DOES NOT MAKE IT OVER POWERED FFS. I should find a quote from the Duvolle Tactical Era and find the foolish people that actually defended it. Would be so relevant right now. You're simply trying to keep the AR the king, the scr is a viable weapon and sucks ass against armor but continue on using your crutch AR everyone. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Solitar Greywatch D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 9	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:50:00 - [12] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: I swear you people are intentionally trying to give me a stroke. THE SCR ISN'T OP GOD DAMMIT, JUST BECAUSE IT KILLED YOU DOES NOT MAKE IT OVER POWERED FFS. AMEN!
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 3767	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:53:00 - [13] - Quote I like how after months of having the scrambler rifle in the game and never changing, it has only recently become OP. Magic I tell you. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Cody Sietz Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 1738	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:56:00 - [14] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: I swear you people are intentionally trying to give me a stroke. THE SCR ISN'T OP GOD DAMMIT, JUST BECAUSE IT KILLED YOU DOES NOT MAKE IT OVER POWERED FFS. I guess the TAR wasn't either "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Aisha Ctarl Scions of Athra 2091	Posted - 2013.12.09 05:00:00 - [15] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: I swear you people are intentionally trying to give me a stroke. THE SCR ISN'T OP GOD DAMMIT, JUST BECAUSE IT KILLED YOU DOES NOT MAKE IT OVER POWERED FFS. I guess the TAR wasn't either The TAR was an emulation of the scr, that's why it had the fire rate it did, the problem was the TAR did equal shield and armor damage while the scr wrecks shields but sucks against armor. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Tectonic Fusion 686	Posted - 2013.12.09 05:01:00 - [16] - Quote The TAR was way more OP. 24 a clip constant fire, higher DPS, more range, and less CPU/PG requirements. I realized the scrambler rifle was a good gun in 1.4, then I kept using it. It only became almost as good as the Toxin AR when we started to become good it, and hit detection started to work now. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 3767	Posted - 2013.12.09 05:02:00 - [17] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: I swear you people are intentionally trying to give me a stroke. THE SCR ISN'T OP GOD DAMMIT, JUST BECAUSE IT KILLED YOU DOES NOT MAKE IT OVER POWERED FFS. I guess the TAR wasn't either The TAR was an emulation of the scr, that's why it had the fire rate it did, the problem was the TAR did equal shield and armor damage while the scr wrecks shields but sucks against armor. The TAR actually does 110% shield 90% armor. And Aisha, you up to talk for a bit about tomorrow? Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 2026	Posted - 2013.12.09 05:05:00 - [18] - Quote The scrambled eggs rifle is not OP. It just melts me shields away like hot butter.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3349	Posted - 2013.12.09 05:06:00 - [19] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: You're simply trying to keep the AR the king, the scr is a viable weapon and sucks ass against armor but continue on using your crutch AR everyone. You're simple making false, strawman, accusations because you're trying to defend your weapon. Take a look back in the ancient forums kid, back when the assault rifle needed to be nerfed I was on that. When the Breach Assault Rifle needed to be nerfed I was on that. When the Duvolle Tactical rifle needed to be nerfed I was sure as hell on that so don't tell me I'm defending something because I use it you scrub. I've been here longer than you can imagine to know when something is OP and when it isn't. And sucks ass against armor you say? Hahaha, yeah, now I know you're just protecting it. I swear to you scrubs never change on these damn forums.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1314	Posted - 2013.12.09 05:08:00 - [20] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Has THEORETICAL highest DPS, but a normal finger can't apply it all, and even if you get turbo controller it will have huge recoil at the fire rate. Charge shot CANNOT one hit kill a heavy, even with a headshot. My proto SCR with damage mods and proficiency does 102~ damage. A charge goes to 204 damage. A headshot goes to 302 damage. It has half the range of the sniper, has no long range scope. charging it does x3 the original damage output at the very least..... If it didn't there would be no way to one shot almost any suit in the game purely because of base stats. However I can guarantee you that anything with 300 hp or less can get one shotted by this gun. I have proto SCR proficiency 4 and the proto amar assault suit and I can tell you that this gun is probably on the fine line of being OP. I played against OH guys in a PC match today and three of them were using PSCR's and it was nearly impossible to close distance on an objective because the first shot would take down 400 of my HP (95 shields, 300 armor roughly) and then a quick follow up volley of 5-8 shots would finnish me off because as you say "each shot does 102 base damage". The fact that my armor tanked 850 EHP gallente logi suit was getting mowed down by these things means they probably need some looking into...... And I fricking use them in pubs all the time. Lets look at it like this. In public matches (ambush) I run an amar standard assault suit with the standard scrambler rifle. Two complex shield extenders and one complex profile dampener and advanced scanner. I consistently go about 20-3 in this suit. This STANDARD suit. Even against pub stompers ill get at least a 3.0 k/d. I can 1v1 proto suits and win simply because the charge shot takes them down 300 hp and evens them out with me. In fact lately the only suit ive found to effectively counter my suit is commando/heavy suits running scrambler rifles also. They win simply because they get x4 the amount of armor I run. In short, the scrambler rifle now is like how the LR used to be in chromosome. Cheap, easy to use, massive bursts of damage that can down an enemy before hes able to react, and becoming increasingly more common in pub matches. Marston VC, STB Member

Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1314	Posted - 2013.12.09 05:09:00 - [21] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: You're simply trying to keep the AR the king, the scr is a viable weapon and sucks ass against armor but continue on using your crutch AR everyone. You're simple making false, strawman, accusations because you're trying to defend your weapon. Take a look back in the ancient forums kid, back when the assault rifle needed to be nerfed I was on that. When the Breach Assault Rifle needed to be nerfed I was on that. When the Duvolle Tactical rifle needed to be nerfed I was sure as hell on that so don't tell me I'm defending something because I use it you scrub. I've been here longer than you can imagine to know when something is OP and when it isn't. And sucks ass against armor you say? Hahaha, yeah, now I know you're just protecting it. I swear to you scrubs never change on these damn forums. Ive always like your name though? Want to come over to our corp and we can be beta veterans together? Marston VC, STB Member
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1314	Posted - 2013.12.09 05:12:00 - [22] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: I swear you people are intentionally trying to give me a stroke. THE SCR ISN'T OP GOD DAMMIT, JUST BECAUSE IT KILLED YOU DOES NOT MAKE IT OVER POWERED FFS. I guess the TAR wasn't either The TAR was an emulation of the scr, that's why it had the fire rate it did, the problem was the TAR did equal shield and armor damage while the scr wrecks shields but sucks against armor. With proper proficiency skills the scrambler rifle can have between 80-100 damage though. Which means that its still going to do between 65-80 damage per shot on armor tanking suits. Coupled with a charge shot and a massively high RoF and small crosshairs means you can blow through almost any suit armor tanked or not. The only suit ive ever come across that is difficult to kill with this gun is a heavy suit. But even those are only difficult to kill if there using an SR as well (because you can outrange them using an SMG). And that's with my STANDARD SR....... I don't even touch my imperial SR because that nonsense would just make the game too boring. Marston VC, STB Member
Tectonic Fusion 686	Posted - 2013.12.09 05:23:00 - [23] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: I swear you people are intentionally trying to give me a stroke. THE SCR ISN'T OP GOD DAMMIT, JUST BECAUSE IT KILLED YOU DOES NOT MAKE IT OVER POWERED FFS. I guess the TAR wasn't either The TAR was an emulation of the scr, that's why it had the fire rate it did, the problem was the TAR did equal shield and armor damage while the scr wrecks shields but sucks against armor. With proper proficiency skills the scrambler rifle can have between 80-100 damage though. Which means that its still going to do between 65-80 damage per shot on armor tanking suits. Coupled with a charge shot and a massively high RoF and small crosshairs means you can blow through almost any suit armor tanked or not. The only suit ive ever come across that is difficult to kill with this gun is a heavy suit. But even those are only difficult to kill if there using an SR as well (because you can outrange them using an SMG). And that's with my STANDARD SR....... I don't even touch my imperial SR because that nonsense would just make the game too boring. And you don't need it rocking 80 damage with prof 4... Solo Player Squad status: Locked
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 309	Posted - 2013.12.09 05:25:00 - [24] - Quote all weapons do way too much damage. Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1103	Posted - 2013.12.09 05:29:00 - [25] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: You're simply trying to keep the AR the king, the scr is a viable weapon and sucks ass against armor but continue on using your crutch AR everyone. I'm not arguing one way or another at this point but I'd like to point out that i was four shotted by one recently when I have over 500 armor. That doesn't seem like it sucks against armor too me. Edit: The death screen said I took over 900 damage from that player (was at full health mere seconds before). I'll have to take a picture to show you next time it happens. Fun > Realism
Cody Sietz Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 1738	Posted - 2013.12.09 05:32:00 - [26] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: I swear you people are intentionally trying to give me a stroke. THE SCR ISN'T OP GOD DAMMIT, JUST BECAUSE IT KILLED YOU DOES NOT MAKE IT OVER POWERED FFS. I guess the TAR wasn't either The TAR was an emulation of the scr, that's why it had the fire rate it did, the problem was the TAR did equal shield and armor damage while the scr wrecks shields but sucks against armor. So the Assault ScR should be much worst then the the std AR? The ScR is the old TAR, except it has a larger mag then the old TAR and it overheats. The only problem is, the overheat doesn't matter on the imperial ScR, it only matters on the STD ScR. I'm not arguing for a nerf, but you can't complain about one and not the other. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 182	Posted - 2013.12.09 05:51:00 - [27] - Quote I think it should be a niche weapon, similar to that of the Lazir Rifle, it should suck at close range. Right now, it is very good close up and far out. The biggest threat to my scout is everything. My scout is the biggest threat to everything.
Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 141	Posted - 2013.12.09 06:34:00 - [28] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: I think it should be a niche weapon, similar to that of the Lazir Rifle, it should suck at close range. Right now, it is very good close up and far out. Nah man its not OP, its just a tactical rifle and a shotgun all in one gun. FYI it needs its rof to fulfill its role, but what needs to change is its hipfire box size. Make it a single point where all damage is applied to that point, still allowing for skilled CQC use. Alternatively make it tac/sniper huge as ** with random probability of applying damage. Current hipfire box size coupled with AA has made this monster, at that its still barely better than ARs and its broke as **. Dedicated redline sniper, tower forger, nade spammer, protostomper, formerly mass driver, and now scrambler CQC spammer.
SLENDER M4N POISION ROSES General Tso's Alliance 16	Posted - 2013.12.09 06:58:00 - [29] - Quote But i like to one hit kill militia suits...and that one scout that occasionally gets in my way and sends me hate mail for killing him because i use the imperial like a boss...but seriously when you see imperial scrambler rifle on the kill feed stay away, just like me when a see a gallente logi with 800 armor i stay away from him i mean AWAY like MCC away. What's a "signature"
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1295	Posted - 2013.12.09 07:56:00 - [30] - Quote Quote: The fact that my armor tanked 850 EHP gallente logi suit was getting mowed down by these things means they probably need some looking into...... And I fricking use them in pubs all the time. Because with my 700 EHP Amarr Assault suit, i am not getting melted in a second by a Duvolle...oh wait ...i do... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"



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