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Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 376	Posted - 2013.12.09 00:49:00 - [1] - Quote for the last 6 months they havnt been able to see infantry further then 30m why is it there mere sight of a railgun insights so much rage that 4-5 AV infantry instantly swamp it from outside render distance? come 1.7 i will exact my revenge bad furry style, and now that i will be able to see you prepaire to eat a rail shot to the face :P (bad furry was a better tanker then me, but i had better aim :P fear me infantry my wrath will be very disproportionate)
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2519	Posted - 2013.12.09 00:54:00 - [2] - Quote Because it's cowardly and you deserve to lose your tank. Doesn't matter if it is a threat or not. You're basically sticking a banner over your head saying "I really *really* don't want to die!". No.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 376	Posted - 2013.12.09 00:55:00 - [3] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's cowardly and you deserve to lose your tank. Doesn't matter if it is a threat or not. You're basically sticking a banner over your head saying "I really *really* don't want to die!". to be fair i diddnt go into the redline untill i had no shields left, you would be amazed what punishment 7600 shields can take :P
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8502	Posted - 2013.12.09 00:56:00 - [4] - Quote Dropship Win ISK / Vids / O7
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 376	Posted - 2013.12.09 00:58:00 - [5] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Dropship i just LOS them when im in my python to be honest... they dont move much, that and rendering makes seeing a dropship over 250m away a stroke of luck or clever positioning.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8504	Posted - 2013.12.09 01:04:00 - [6] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Dropship i just LOS them when im in my python to be honest... they dont move much, that and rendering makes seeing a dropship over 250m away a stroke of luck or clever positioning. Same can be said of that tank, I can't tell you how many times I've been shot by redline tanks that don't render until I'm IN the redline looking for them Win ISK / Vids / O7
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5705	Posted - 2013.12.09 01:08:00 - [7] - Quote Now that ammo will be limited, I can see how this will change. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 376	Posted - 2013.12.09 01:10:00 - [8] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Dropship i just LOS them when im in my python to be honest... they dont move much, that and rendering makes seeing a dropship over 250m away a stroke of luck or clever positioning. Same can be said of that tank, I can't tell you how many times I've been shot by redline tanks that don't render until I'm IN the redline looking for them i dont bother looking for them, i can tell where they are based on where i am when i get hit + how my ship moves from the shot, then just deny them a target. them sitting alone in their redline tank away from all targets means one less man on the field. its more advantagious to let them live back there doing nothing then to kill them off.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2521	Posted - 2013.12.09 03:38:00 - [9] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's cowardly and you deserve to lose your tank. Doesn't matter if it is a threat or not. You're basically sticking a banner over your head saying "I really *really* don't want to die!". to be fair i diddnt go into the redline untill i had no shields left, you would be amazed what punishment 7600 shields can take :P no shields left after taking extreme amounts of fire from invisable infantry :P when i can see them they eat a rail shot :P whats more cowardly? running from an invisable enamy? or being an invisable enamy? If you weren't in the redline to start with then you weren't a redline tank. In which case what do you expect people to do but shoot at you? No.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 381	Posted - 2013.12.09 03:40:00 - [10] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's cowardly and you deserve to lose your tank. Doesn't matter if it is a threat or not. You're basically sticking a banner over your head saying "I really *really* don't want to die!". to be fair i diddnt go into the redline untill i had no shields left, you would be amazed what punishment 7600 shields can take :P no shields left after taking extreme amounts of fire from invisable infantry :P when i can see them they eat a rail shot :P whats more cowardly? running from an invisable enamy? or being an invisable enamy? If you weren't in the redline to start with then you weren't a redline tank. In which case what do you expect people to do but shoot at you? its just kinda odd the hate that inspires folks to grab a squad of 6 and charge at a tank before it fires a shot :P not only that dedicating 6 people to kill what is essentially a person acomplishing nothing useful (redline tank) is well... a poor use of resources... hes much more valuble to the enamy team alive then he is dead and repawning as infantry that might actually acomplish something.

Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 639	Posted - 2013.12.09 03:44:00 - [11] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: whats more cowardly? running from an invisable enamy? or being an invisable enamy? This is actually quite profound. Munch Dedicated Sniper. Minmatar Patriot.
Jammer Jalapeno BIG BAD W0LVES 91	Posted - 2013.12.09 03:48:00 - [12] - Quote There is no hate just love for blowing stuff up....why? Because we can. Just the other day our squad killed a Vayu in the redline...poor bastard didn't even stand a chance. We had 3 forgers all charged up ready to go, and as soon as our squad leader dropped the OB we all let off our forge balls, killing him instantly. MmMmMm TanKs....delicious TanKs
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8512	Posted - 2013.12.09 03:51:00 - [13] - Quote Jammer Jalapeno wrote: There is no hate just love for blowing stuff up....why? Because we can. Just the other day our squad killed a Vayu in the redline...poor bastard didn't even stand a chance. We had 3 forgers all charged up ready to go, and as soon as our squad leader dropped the OB we all let off our forge balls, killing him instantly. I suicide dropships into the redline pretty often to get those last couple shots in, it's actually a lot of fun Win ISK / Vids / O7
Jammer Jalapeno BIG BAD W0LVES 91	Posted - 2013.12.09 03:53:00 - [14] - Quote Yep we got those too lol MmMmMm TanKs....delicious TanKs
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 381	Posted - 2013.12.09 03:54:00 - [15] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Jammer Jalapeno wrote: There is no hate just love for blowing stuff up....why? Because we can. Just the other day our squad killed a Vayu in the redline...poor bastard didn't even stand a chance. We had 3 forgers all charged up ready to go, and as soon as our squad leader dropped the OB we all let off our forge balls, killing him instantly. I suicide dropships into the redline pretty often to get those last couple shots in, it's actually a lot of fun i agree, you can always tell when they panic too and it makes it even more hilarious.
Toby Flenderson research lab 138	Posted - 2013.12.09 03:59:00 - [16] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's cowardly and you deserve to lose your tank. Doesn't matter if it is a threat or not. You're basically sticking a banner over your head saying "I really *really* don't want to die!". to be fair i diddnt go into the redline untill i had no shields left, you would be amazed what punishment 7600 shields can take :P no shields left after taking extreme amounts of fire from invisable infantry :P when i can see them they eat a rail shot :P whats more cowardly? running from an invisable enamy? or being an invisable enamy? They're only invisible if you're hiding in the redline. They literally couldn't survive 30 meters from a tank if that's where it was parked. Redline tactics are always the most cowardly tactic. It's like throwing water balloons out of the window of your bedroom at the kids outside knowing they can only hit you through a window when you choose to appear in it. If one would want to rail tank without being a coward, stay out of the redline.
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 216	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:08:00 - [17] - Quote I find red line tanks to be cheapass scrub tactics, with that said, they are usually not very observant "see snipers" and I can frequently drive into red with my lav blow them away and drive out... But it largely depends on the map because of terrain.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 381	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:17:00 - [18] - Quote Toby Flenderson wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's cowardly and you deserve to lose your tank. Doesn't matter if it is a threat or not. You're basically sticking a banner over your head saying "I really *really* don't want to die!". to be fair i diddnt go into the redline untill i had no shields left, you would be amazed what punishment 7600 shields can take :P no shields left after taking extreme amounts of fire from invisable infantry :P when i can see them they eat a rail shot :P whats more cowardly? running from an invisable enamy? or being an invisable enamy? They're only invisible if you're hiding in the redline. They literally couldn't survive 30 meters from a tank if that's where it was parked. Redline tactics are always the most cowardly tactic. It's like throwing water balloons out of the window of your bedroom at the kids outside knowing they can only hit you through a window when you choose to appear in it. If one would want to rail tank without being a coward, stay out of the redline. so youve never been in a rail tank :P they are invisable no matter where you are it has nothing to do with the redline :P visual range is a crapshoot after the 20m mark they may or may not render past that. while int he redline they cant see you they cant shoot you. they are literally dead weight to the team and are most oftin there trying to ditch the blueberrys out of the tank so they can recall and run on the ground :P
Toby Flenderson research lab 138	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:26:00 - [19] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's cowardly and you deserve to lose your tank. Doesn't matter if it is a threat or not. You're basically sticking a banner over your head saying "I really *really* don't want to die!". to be fair i diddnt go into the redline untill i had no shields left, you would be amazed what punishment 7600 shields can take :P no shields left after taking extreme amounts of fire from invisable infantry :P when i can see them they eat a rail shot :P whats more cowardly? running from an invisable enamy? or being an invisable enamy? If you weren't in the redline to start with then you weren't a redline tank. In which case what do you expect people to do but shoot at you? its just kinda odd the hate that inspires folks to grab a squad of 6 and charge at a tank before it fires a shot :P not only that dedicating 6 people to kill what is essentially a person acomplishing nothing useful (redline tank) is well... a poor use of resources... hes much more valuble to the enamy team alive then he is dead and repawning as infantry that might actually acomplish something. I can't stand to think that I'm just a fish in a barrel for someone not participating in a game more than sitting in the redline, be it a sniper or tanker. I get why people do it and I admit I snipe form the red when being proto stomped occasionally. The thing about tanks in the redline that make it so much worse is that you can't counter them any other way than dedicating multiple people to the cause or kamikaze drops hip tactics. They can't be counter sniped with a headshot or one hitted (unless maybe by a tank) and most AV is worthless since it can just back up out of view and repair itself. This annoys me more than most things in this game because tanks are already hard to kill without them being able to hide behind redlines.
Toby Flenderson research lab 138	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:29:00 - [20] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Toby Flenderson wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's cowardly and you deserve to lose your tank. Doesn't matter if it is a threat or not. You're basically sticking a banner over your head saying "I really *really* don't want to die!". to be fair i diddnt go into the redline untill i had no shields left, you would be amazed what punishment 7600 shields can take :P no shields left after taking extreme amounts of fire from invisable infantry :P when i can see them they eat a rail shot :P whats more cowardly? running from an invisable enamy? or being an invisable enamy? They're only invisible if you're hiding in the redline. They literally couldn't survive 30 meters from a tank if that's where it was parked. Redline tactics are always the most cowardly tactic. It's like throwing water balloons out of the window of your bedroom at the kids outside knowing they can only hit you through a window when you choose to appear in it. If one would want to rail tank without being a coward, stay out of the redline. so youve never been in a rail tank :P they are invisable no matter where you are it has nothing to do with the redline :P visual range is a crapshoot after the 20m mark they may or may not render past that. while int he redline they cant see you they cant shoot you. they are literally dead weight to the team and are most oftin there trying to ditch the blueberrys out of the tank so they can recall and run on the ground :P Are you telling me that targets cannot be seen past 20m while aiming a rail gun In tanks?

Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 4023	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:30:00 - [21] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Dropship Yeah, one of those will splatter a Dropship while the pilot doesn't even know where they're being hit from. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 381	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:33:00 - [22] - Quote Toby Flenderson wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Toby Flenderson wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's cowardly and you deserve to lose your tank. Doesn't matter if it is a threat or not. You're basically sticking a banner over your head saying "I really *really* don't want to die!". to be fair i diddnt go into the redline untill i had no shields left, you would be amazed what punishment 7600 shields can take :P no shields left after taking extreme amounts of fire from invisable infantry :P when i can see them they eat a rail shot :P whats more cowardly? running from an invisable enamy? or being an invisable enamy? They're only invisible if you're hiding in the redline. They literally couldn't survive 30 meters from a tank if that's where it was parked. Redline tactics are always the most cowardly tactic. It's like throwing water balloons out of the window of your bedroom at the kids outside knowing they can only hit you through a window when you choose to appear in it. If one would want to rail tank without being a coward, stay out of the redline. so youve never been in a rail tank :P they are invisable no matter where you are it has nothing to do with the redline :P visual range is a crapshoot after the 20m mark they may or may not render past that. while int he redline they cant see you they cant shoot you. they are literally dead weight to the team and are most oftin there trying to ditch the blueberrys out of the tank so they can recall and run on the ground :P Are you telling me that targets cannot be seen past 20m while aiming a rail gun In tanks? relyably no visual range on infantry has a soft cap at around 120m, and a hard cap of 200m. reliably sight range is only 20m however as thats when infantry is 90% guarenteed to render (still not 100%) a redline rail tank cant see you. whats more cowardly, being a redline railtank that cant shoot anything? or being invisable while you kill said railtank if he leaves teh redline :P you claim that its cowardly to attack when what your attacking cant retaliate, and yet thats EXACTLY what AV guys are doing to railtanks in the first place.
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 408	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:46:00 - [23] - Quote Because, if they are given proper rendering, they are virtually unkillable while still possessing dominating killing power, also they are cowards for abusing the redline. They're essentially redline Thale-Heavys that can destroy vehicles as well as infantry and are much much much harder to kill. Think about it: infantry can't effectively harm them because that would require either redlining the enemy or sneaking behind enemy lines, with an AV weapon mind you. LAVs and tanks cannot because the tank can easily destroy them with it's good vantage point, not to mention trying to get past all the AV happy infantry, and dropships have insufficient DPS against tanks and are pretty much worthless if the driver has any sort of AV on him. An orbital may be your best bet, but the cowardly tanker always has his thumb poised for backing out of any sort of threat that might scratch his precious little tank. The problem is that they have no counter. If we were given something that can do a lot of damage to a stationary target, like a torpedo or bomb, or if fitting a rail required a cut to defenses or speed or something, then the would be balanced. But there's just nothing that the feasibly do anything to not even kill, but at least check them. Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane Kills- Incubus: 3; Pythons: 0; Logistics: 0; Militia: 19; Tanks: 4
Foxhound Elite The Rainbow Effect 559	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:49:00 - [24] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Dropship i just LOS them when im in my python to be honest... they dont move much, that and rendering makes seeing a dropship over 250m away a stroke of luck or clever positioning. you are either a really bad railgun tanker or you're new at it. I'm one of the most experienced pilots in Dust, and yet railgun redline tanks two-shot me before I can change direction / accelerate away, from across the entire map... redline to redline. I just find redline railgun tankers to be cowards and everytime I fly into the redline, take you lot down to barely any health before the timers out, you end up recalling the bloody tank. It's just cowardice. Python pilot, troop-transport specialist and an all-round ballbag.
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 168	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:55:00 - [25] - Quote Because the redline is terrible mechanic in a game about risk-reward. The redline allows people (most notably and prolifically Thales snipers in heavy suits) to engage the enemy with the minimum risk: they have a barrier that denies enemy action (the redline will kill the enemy, preventing seek-and-destroy missions); they can project their power with no penalty (snipers and Railguns are the long range weapons, naturally and that's fine, but thye get a free safety net for their already less risky tactics.) The redline does have an upside...it stops the enemy from slaughtering a completely dominated opposition. Oh wait, it doesn't, it just makes it slower. I'm all for giving a beaten down team a chance, but there must be a better way than providing an extremely resilient buffer for snipers. I don't want to declare all snipers as coward, but snipers that claim that they should be able to utterly dominate a map, with enough power to one-shot infantry whilst simultaneously having a zone in which they can hide from retribution makes me have an extremely low opinion of snipers (infantry and vehicle alike.)
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 381	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:57:00 - [26] - Quote Foxhound Elite wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Dropship i just LOS them when im in my python to be honest... they dont move much, that and rendering makes seeing a dropship over 250m away a stroke of luck or clever positioning. you are either a really bad railgun tanker or you're new at it. I'm one of the most experienced pilots in Dust, and yet railgun redline tanks two-shot me before I can change direction / accelerate away, from across the entire map... redline to redline. I just find redline railgun tankers to be cowards and everytime I fly into the redline, take you lot down to barely any health before the timers out, you end up recalling the bloody tank. It's just cowardice. ive shot you down before... in a python (as a gunner) your not as good as you think you are.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1451	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:59:00 - [27] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: for the last 6 months they havnt been able to see infantry further then 30m why is it there mere sight of a railgun insights so much rage that 4-5 AV infantry instantly swamp it from outside render distance? come 1.7 i will exact my revenge bad furry style, and now that i will be able to see you prepaire to eat a rail shot to the face :P (bad furry was a better tanker then me, but i had better aim :P fear me infantry my wrath will be very disproportionate) Even I hate redline rail tanks. If I can CQC infantry and vehicles with a railgun, there's no excuse for people to hide in the mountains with one. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 381	Posted - 2013.12.09 05:15:00 - [28] - Quote guys redline tanks for the last 6 months couldnt see infantry.... and could barly see vehicles.... how are you so angry at something that cant hurt you? (dropships are the exception sadly)
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1452	Posted - 2013.12.09 06:01:00 - [29] - Quote Foxhound Elite wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Dropship i just LOS them when im in my python to be honest... they dont move much, that and rendering makes seeing a dropship over 250m away a stroke of luck or clever positioning. you are either a really bad railgun tanker or you're new at it. I'm one of the most experienced pilots in Dust, and yet railgun redline tanks two-shot me before I can change direction / accelerate away, from across the entire map... redline to redline. I just find redline railgun tankers to be cowards and everytime I fly into the redline, take you lot down to barely any health before the timers out, you end up recalling the bloody tank. It's just cowardice. Lol you obviously haven't been playing long. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 384	Posted - 2013.12.09 06:08:00 - [30] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Foxhound Elite wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Dropship i just LOS them when im in my python to be honest... they dont move much, that and rendering makes seeing a dropship over 250m away a stroke of luck or clever positioning. you are either a really bad railgun tanker or you're new at it. I'm one of the most experienced pilots in Dust, and yet railgun redline tanks two-shot me before I can change direction / accelerate away, from across the entire map... redline to redline. I just find redline railgun tankers to be cowards and everytime I fly into the redline, take you lot down to barely any health before the timers out, you end up recalling the bloody tank. It's just cowardice. Lol you obviously haven't been playing long. it really is cute when they were around when the railtanks were the gods of the mountain-tops

ninja draco R 0 N 1 N 7	Posted - 2013.12.09 06:12:00 - [31] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: for the last 6 months they havnt been able to see infantry further then 30m why is it there mere sight of a railgun insights so much rage that 4-5 AV infantry instantly swamp it from outside render distance? come 1.7 i will exact my revenge bad furry style, and now that i will be able to see you prepaire to eat a rail shot to the face :P (bad furry was a better tanker then me, but i had better aim :P fear me infantry my wrath will be very disproportionate) its just as cowardly as redline sniping, you are taking advantage of game mechanics to gain an unfair advantage over your opponent
Foxhound Elite The Rainbow Effect 559	Posted - 2013.12.09 06:17:00 - [32] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Foxhound Elite wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Dropship i just LOS them when im in my python to be honest... they dont move much, that and rendering makes seeing a dropship over 250m away a stroke of luck or clever positioning. you are either a really bad railgun tanker or you're new at it. I'm one of the most experienced pilots in Dust, and yet railgun redline tanks two-shot me before I can change direction / accelerate away, from across the entire map... redline to redline. I just find redline railgun tankers to be cowards and everytime I fly into the redline, take you lot down to barely any health before the timers out, you end up recalling the bloody tank. It's just cowardice. ive shot you down before... in a python (as a gunner) your not as good as you think you are. Lies or you had help from AV. Either way, I have not been beaten in a purely air-to-air fight. Never. If anybody would like a try, hit me up with a time, que-sync into opposite FW, meet in the skies and I will shoot you down, without a doubt. Python pilot, troop-transport specialist and an all-round ballbag.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1458	Posted - 2013.12.09 06:18:00 - [33] - Quote Jammer Jalapeno wrote: There is no hate just love for blowing stuff up....why? Because we can. Just the other day our squad killed a Vayu in the redline...poor bastard didn't even stand a chance. We had 3 forgers all charged up ready to go, and as soon as our squad leader dropped the OB we all let off our forge balls, killing him instantly. You used superbly coordinated teamwork, hence why you annihilated him. Now, if only most "av is getting nerfed QQers" could understand that... "HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete." GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 385	Posted - 2013.12.09 06:24:00 - [34] - Quote Foxhound Elite wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Foxhound Elite wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Dropship i just LOS them when im in my python to be honest... they dont move much, that and rendering makes seeing a dropship over 250m away a stroke of luck or clever positioning. you are either a really bad railgun tanker or you're new at it. I'm one of the most experienced pilots in Dust, and yet railgun redline tanks two-shot me before I can change direction / accelerate away, from across the entire map... redline to redline. I just find redline railgun tankers to be cowards and everytime I fly into the redline, take you lot down to barely any health before the timers out, you end up recalling the bloody tank. It's just cowardice. ive shot you down before... in a python (as a gunner) your not as good as you think you are. Lies or you had help from AV. Either way, I have not been beaten in a purely air-to-air fight. Never. If anybody would like a try, hit me up with a time, que-sync into opposite FW, meet in the skies and I will shoot you down, without a doubt. perhaps im wrong my memory isnt the most reliable thing. i think ill just re-introduce you to xX Blackhole Nova Xx instead :P did you really think i was a bad railtanker? or did you mean dropship pilot :P because when i make statements about railguns i leave myself out of it and only base my info off what i see others do for the most part. and im not sure what you fly.... but you really should be able to tank 2 hits and NOT die... 2x jovians FTW for being able to change directions in a flash :P and the only thing that 2 shots my python build is a breach forge :P (compressed particle cannon gets close but i still have a slice of armor left)
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 59	Posted - 2013.12.09 06:25:00 - [35] - Quote When being proto stomped I will whip out the sniper rifle and flank. However I think your green zone (the enemies red zone) should become 20 second toxic once you start getting WP for killing out of it, at least if you are on the winning team. Also War Points should really only come from the war Zone. Camping in the redzone is taking advantage of the PS3s CPU and graphics limits. There would be no safe zone in a conflict like this, at least not one you can hide in. So it is no different to using a macro or gimped controller to make an SCR into an auto fire weapon. It's using hardware limitations and actively exploiting them for gain. It would be like playing chess and having your queen kill from off the board but not allowed to be taken. There is a set of terms for that. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
Auld Syne Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 146	Posted - 2013.12.09 06:28:00 - [36] - Quote Because, bitches.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 386	Posted - 2013.12.09 06:29:00 - [37] - Quote Tch Tch wrote: When being proto stomped I will whip out the sniper rifle and flank. However I think your green zone (the enemies red zone) should become 20 second toxic once you start getting WP for killing out of it, at least if you are on the winning team. Also War Points should really only come from the war Zone. Camping in the redzone is taking advantage of the PS3s CPU and graphics limits. There would be no safe zone in a conflict like this, at least not one you can hide in. So it is no different to using a macro or gimped controller to make an SCR into an auto fire weapon. It's using hardware limitations and actively exploiting them for gain. It would be like playing chess and having your queen kill from off the board but not allowed to be taken. There is a set of terms for that. except the part where railguns cant see anything and cant camp inside the redline.... you missed that part.
ALT2 acc The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 18	Posted - 2013.12.09 06:34:00 - [38] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Tch Tch wrote: When being proto stomped I will whip out the sniper rifle and flank. However I think your green zone (the enemies red zone) should become 20 second toxic once you start getting WP for killing out of it, at least if you are on the winning team. Also War Points should really only come from the war Zone. Camping in the redzone is taking advantage of the PS3s CPU and graphics limits. There would be no safe zone in a conflict like this, at least not one you can hide in. So it is no different to using a macro or gimped controller to make an SCR into an auto fire weapon. It's using hardware limitations and actively exploiting them for gain. It would be like playing chess and having your queen kill from off the board but not allowed to be taken. There is a set of terms for that. except the part where railguns cant see anything and cant camp inside the redline.... you missed that part. exept i've done it proto rails will make me spec out of vehicles
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 386	Posted - 2013.12.09 06:36:00 - [39] - Quote ALT2 acc wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Tch Tch wrote: When being proto stomped I will whip out the sniper rifle and flank. However I think your green zone (the enemies red zone) should become 20 second toxic once you start getting WP for killing out of it, at least if you are on the winning team. Also War Points should really only come from the war Zone. Camping in the redzone is taking advantage of the PS3s CPU and graphics limits. There would be no safe zone in a conflict like this, at least not one you can hide in. So it is no different to using a macro or gimped controller to make an SCR into an auto fire weapon. It's using hardware limitations and actively exploiting them for gain. It would be like playing chess and having your queen kill from off the board but not allowed to be taken. There is a set of terms for that. except the part where railguns cant see anything and cant camp inside the redline.... you missed that part. exept i've done it proto rails will make me spec out of vehicles if thats how you want to look at it then you probably should.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 816	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:27:00 - [40] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: for the last 6 months they havnt been able to see infantry further then 30m why is it there mere sight of a railgun insights so much rage that 4-5 AV infantry instantly swamp it from outside render distance? come 1.7 i will exact my revenge bad furry style, and now that i will be able to see you prepaire to eat a rail shot to the face :P (bad furry was a better tanker then me, but i had better aim :P fear me infantry my wrath will be very disproportionate) Because despite "not seeing infantry further than 30m" apparently all redline rail tankers have ESP and can snipe people, vehicles, and installations from across the map, I've seen some even shoot actual snipers in the other redline, all while hiding on a hill ready to duck into cover at the first sign of AV. That's probably why. You snipe @ people, they get pissed. You snipe @ them with OHK weaponry, a lot of them get pissed and hunt you down. That's how it works. Ask a Thales user. MINMATAR ARISE! DEMAND that our race's suits be FIXED!!! *WE WILL NOT GIVE IN!!* MATARI PRIDE!! FIX TTK!!

Toby Flenderson research lab 139	Posted - 2013.12.09 12:46:00 - [41] - Quote chances ghost wrote: relyably no visual range on infantry has a soft cap at around 120m, and a hard cap of 200m. reliably sight range is only 20m however as thats when infantry is 90% guarenteed to render (still not 100%) a redline rail tank cant see you. whats more cowardly, being a redline railtank that cant shoot anything? or being invisable while you kill said railtank if he leaves teh redline :P you claim that its cowardly to attack when what your attacking cant retaliate, and yet thats EXACTLY what AV guys are doing to railtanks in the first place. so to you AV guys who hate railtanks.... you are what you hate I'll apologize then for what I said about rail tanks. I did not know that they literally would not be able to see someone 20m. If this is true then they're clearly not as cowardly as a redline sniper but I do think its a really stupid gameplay strategy past destroying installations. I still disagree that it's more cowardly to attack the tank. It would be like me entering a match and only face down and call people a coward for killing me when I can't see them. It should not be the responsibility of the AV user to be within 20m before he attacks when they start in the heat of battle to begin with. If rail tanks truly can't see like you're telling me then they're just as slelf hindering as the infantry running around with his head down. Call it free WP, but it doesn't make me a coward for going for them when no one is making them play this way.
Toby Flenderson research lab 139	Posted - 2013.12.09 12:52:00 - [42] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Foxhound Elite wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Dropship i just LOS them when im in my python to be honest... they dont move much, that and rendering makes seeing a dropship over 250m away a stroke of luck or clever positioning. you are either a really bad railgun tanker or you're new at it. I'm one of the most experienced pilots in Dust, and yet railgun redline tanks two-shot me before I can change direction / accelerate away, from across the entire map... redline to redline. I just find redline railgun tankers to be cowards and everytime I fly into the redline, take you lot down to barely any health before the timers out, you end up recalling the bloody tank. It's just cowardice. Lol you obviously haven't been playing long. Out of all of the drops hip pilots I've played with foxhound is definitely the best. Not saying there isn't someone better but he is very good at flying and I value his input on the matter.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1849	Posted - 2013.12.09 12:53:00 - [43] - Quote Players will be annoyed The redline railgun i have done plenty of times, with the current builds its been useless except for hitting other vehicles but infantry wise its terrible It will give snipers a run for there money tbh, maybe we can see far enough to hit enemy snipers or anything else But i dont expect rendering to be fixed because it wasnt fixed in 1.5 or 1.6
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 268	Posted - 2013.12.09 12:55:00 - [44] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's cowardly and you deserve to lose your tank. Doesn't matter if it is a threat or not. You're basically sticking a banner over your head saying "I really *really* don't want to die!". Cowardly, hah. I redline sniped yesterday, given my team was redlined, and murdered some tanks and dropships. You know, during the revolutionary war, the British called the Americans cowardly for not standing in nice neat rows to be fired upon. We adopted battle tactics from our native american allies and enemies. Attacking from where you cannot be seen, or fired back upon. Cowardly, haha. It's war, play to win, or go home. Nuff Said
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 268	Posted - 2013.12.09 12:57:00 - [45] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Players will be annoyed The redline railgun i have done plenty of times, with the current builds its been useless except for hitting other vehicles but infantry wise its terrible It will give snipers a run for there money tbh, maybe we can see far enough to hit enemy snipers or anything else But i dont expect rendering to be fixed because it wasnt fixed in 1.5 or 1.6 Works well when you want to guard homepoint. Map depending of course. Just need a clear shot on the console. And here lately, Ive had infantry rendering at 300m+, though some games rendering remains **** poor. Nuff Said
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2528	Posted - 2013.12.09 13:07:00 - [46] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's cowardly and you deserve to lose your tank. Doesn't matter if it is a threat or not. You're basically sticking a banner over your head saying "I really *really* don't want to die!". to be fair i diddnt go into the redline untill i had no shields left, you would be amazed what punishment 7600 shields can take :P no shields left after taking extreme amounts of fire from invisable infantry :P when i can see them they eat a rail shot :P whats more cowardly? running from an invisable enamy? or being an invisable enamy? If you weren't in the redline to start with then you weren't a redline tank. In which case what do you expect people to do but shoot at you? its just kinda odd the hate that inspires folks to grab a squad of 6 and charge at a tank before it fires a shot :P not only that dedicating 6 people to kill what is essentially a person acomplishing nothing useful (redline tank) is well... a poor use of resources... hes much more valuble to the enamy team alive then he is dead and repawning as infantry that might actually acomplish something. There's more to this game than winning the match. Especially when matches can be decided in the first 5 minutes. I have fittings dedicated to executing redline snipers just because it's satisfying to kill someone who was willing to go to such lengths not to be killed. No.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2528	Posted - 2013.12.09 13:10:00 - [47] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's cowardly and you deserve to lose your tank. Doesn't matter if it is a threat or not. You're basically sticking a banner over your head saying "I really *really* don't want to die!". Cowardly, hah. I redline sniped yesterday, given my team was redlined, and murdered some tanks and dropships. You know, during the revolutionary war, the British called the Americans cowardly for not standing in nice neat rows to be fired upon. We adopted battle tactics from our native american allies and enemies. Attacking from where you cannot be seen, or fired back upon. Cowardly, haha. It's war, play to win, or go home. I don't know if you're aware of this, but this game isn't real life. No.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1175	Posted - 2013.12.09 13:13:00 - [48] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: for the last 6 months they havnt been able to see infantry further then 30m why is it there mere sight of a railgun insights so much rage that 4-5 AV infantry instantly swamp it from outside render distance? come 1.7 i will exact my revenge bad furry style, and now that i will be able to see you prepaire to eat a rail shot to the face :P (bad furry was a better tanker then me, but i had better aim :P fear me infantry my wrath will be very disproportionate) Nothing against a RailGun Tank Everything against a Redline RailGun Tank It's as if the guy sucks so bad he needs to sit in a tank to survive in the redline, at least snipe with a sniper rifle, wher we can kill you. If you don't spend your time in the redline, I don't care how far away you are hitting me from. That said I would like GUNSHIPS soon. And laser designators The pen is mightier than the sword The gun is mightier than both Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
DeathwindRising ROGUE SPADES 140	Posted - 2013.12.09 13:25:00 - [49] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: for the last 6 months they havnt been able to see infantry further then 30m why is it there mere sight of a railgun insights so much rage that 4-5 AV infantry instantly swamp it from outside render distance? come 1.7 i will exact my revenge bad furry style, and now that i will be able to see you prepaire to eat a rail shot to the face :P (bad furry was a better tanker then me, but i had better aim :P fear me infantry my wrath will be very disproportionate) bad furry... miss seeing him
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 803	Posted - 2013.12.09 13:38:00 - [50] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's cowardly and you deserve to lose your tank. Doesn't matter if it is a threat or not. You're basically sticking a banner over your head saying "I really *really* don't want to die!". Cowardly does not apply to this or any video game. Stop using that term ppl. It is about ppl wanting to play this game for fun and play it as effectively as they can without running in and getting shot over and over as a vanilla assault. That is boring and dumb. But that is what basic infantry is forGÇª cannon fodder. Most ppl would rather play smarter, not harder and use a game to prove there manhood. You don't have to run into gun fire to be a man. Don't like redline tactics? Blame CCP. Don't like that the only way to really win a game is to hack, hack, hack objectives? Blame CCP. Most ppl like to have fun with other stuff in this game. Redline rail tanking is legitimate for a long range tank. It's the damn maps that need expanding to allow for proper vehicle maneuvering instead of essentially spinning donuts around and around in a bowl shaped killbox. Redline rail tanks are the artillery units of this game and have their purpose. You can't really shoot a dropship down when you are out in the middle of a map. LAVs are easier to hit at a distance. Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn! BURN DUST 2014

IraqiFriendshipExplosive Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 19	Posted - 2013.12.09 13:46:00 - [51] - Quote You are using a tank as a tank is meant to be used. Therefore you become a target. All of these kids running around trying to solo everyone up close miss the point of armoured support. Last time I checked tanks sit back and fire from a distance. However I think the whole tank thing is stupid anyway. We have spaceships for crying out loud, you would figure everyone would be speeding around in armoured flying spaceship vehicles. Why we have some ancient tank designs in DUST is beyond me.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 803	Posted - 2013.12.09 13:48:00 - [52] - Quote IraqiFriendshipExplosive wrote: You are using a tank as a tank is meant to be used. Therefore you become a target. All of these kids running around trying to solo everyone up close miss the point of armoured support. Last time I checked tanks sit back and fire from a distance. However I think the whole tank thing is stupid anyway. We have spaceships for crying out loud, you would figure everyone would be speeding around in armoured flying spaceship vehicles. Why we have some ancient tank designs in DUST is beyond me. I'm surprised tanks have treads. Wouldn't they be using the same hover tech of dropships? Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn! BURN DUST 2014
Sgt Buttscratch 1119	Posted - 2013.12.09 13:49:00 - [53] - Quote So I redline tanker is a coward...He has a LONG RANGE WEAPON, designed to shoot over long ranges and he operates within the map boundaries he is given. You may think that is redline, theres no counter telling the tank to get out, on his screen he is not in the redline. How is it any worse than, uplink/equipment lag fests(these are done on purpose), a logi with 1000+ehp stood in triage hives, spamming nades non stop(nyan san style), A heavy using an AR/SCR/ASCR/SR/LR or even a MD in close quarter maps, taking the high ground on maps and forging anything that moves. Using swarms from beyond render range. Scanning non stop, there are people who spend an entire match spinning in circles.... Once again the issue with snipers and railtanks in the redline is this: AR users think that we should all have to operate within their optimal range. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 803	Posted - 2013.12.09 13:49:00 - [54] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Tebu Gan wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's cowardly and you deserve to lose your tank. Doesn't matter if it is a threat or not. You're basically sticking a banner over your head saying "I really *really* don't want to die!". Cowardly, hah. I redline sniped yesterday, given my team was redlined, and murdered some tanks and dropships. You know, during the revolutionary war, the British called the Americans cowardly for not standing in nice neat rows to be fired upon. We adopted battle tactics from our native american allies and enemies. Attacking from where you cannot be seen, or fired back upon. Cowardly, haha. It's war, play to win, or go home. I don't know if you're aware of this, but this game isn't real life. Exactly, which means cowardly doesn't apply! It's a game. Get where you can be effective and enjoy the kills. Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn! BURN DUST 2014
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2530	Posted - 2013.12.09 13:56:00 - [55] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Tebu Gan wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's cowardly and you deserve to lose your tank. Doesn't matter if it is a threat or not. You're basically sticking a banner over your head saying "I really *really* don't want to die!". Cowardly, hah. I redline sniped yesterday, given my team was redlined, and murdered some tanks and dropships. You know, during the revolutionary war, the British called the Americans cowardly for not standing in nice neat rows to be fired upon. We adopted battle tactics from our native american allies and enemies. Attacking from where you cannot be seen, or fired back upon. Cowardly, haha. It's war, play to win, or go home. I don't know if you're aware of this, but this game isn't real life. Exactly, which means cowardly doesn't apply! It's a game. Get where you can be effective and enjoy the kills. If that means cowardly doesn't apply, aren't you saying the revolutionary troops in Tebu's analogy are cowardly? No.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2530	Posted - 2013.12.09 14:00:00 - [56] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's cowardly and you deserve to lose your tank. Doesn't matter if it is a threat or not. You're basically sticking a banner over your head saying "I really *really* don't want to die!". Cowardly does not apply to this or any video game. Stop using that term ppl. It is about ppl wanting to play this game for fun and play it as effectively as they can without running in and getting shot over and over as a vanilla assault. That is boring and dumb. But that is what basic infantry is forGÇª cannon fodder. Most ppl would rather play smarter, not harder and use a game to prove there manhood. You don't have to run into gun fire to be a man. Don't like redline tactics? Blame CCP. Don't like that the only way to really win a game is to hack, hack, hack objectives? Blame CCP. Most ppl like to have fun with other stuff in this game. Redline rail tanking is legitimate for a long range tank. It's the damn maps that need expanding to allow for proper vehicle maneuvering instead of essentially spinning donuts around and around in a bowl shaped killbox. Redline rail tanks are the artillery units of this game and have their purpose. You can't really shoot a dropship down when you are out in the middle of a map. LAVs are easier to hit at a distance. Hiding out of range of most enemies is tactical. Deliberately hiding in an area where your enemies aren't allowed to compete with you is cowardly. Does that clear things up? I don't have a problem if you want to be cowardly. I'll just shoot you for it. Everyone has fun! No.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 818	Posted - 2013.12.09 14:30:00 - [57] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Foxhound Elite wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Dropship i just LOS them when im in my python to be honest... they dont move much, that and rendering makes seeing a dropship over 250m away a stroke of luck or clever positioning. you are either a really bad railgun tanker or you're new at it. I'm one of the most experienced pilots in Dust, and yet railgun redline tanks two-shot me before I can change direction / accelerate away, from across the entire map... redline to redline. I just find redline railgun tankers to be cowards and everytime I fly into the redline, take you lot down to barely any health before the timers out, you end up recalling the bloody tank. It's just cowardice. Lol you obviously haven't been playing long. Fox has been here longer than I have, and he's been flying dropships since I met him right after Replication ended. Remember back when Line Harvest was the only map in rotation? Back then he was flying dropships at full speed beneath the table top in the center of the map. Bottom line: Fox knows of what he speaks. MINMATAR ARISE! DEMAND that our race's suits be FIXED!!! *WE WILL NOT GIVE IN!!* MATARI PRIDE!! FIX TTK!!
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 818	Posted - 2013.12.09 14:43:00 - [58] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's cowardly and you deserve to lose your tank. Doesn't matter if it is a threat or not. You're basically sticking a banner over your head saying "I really *really* don't want to die!". Cowardly, hah. I redline sniped yesterday, given my team was redlined, and murdered some tanks and dropships. You know, during the revolutionary war, the British called the Americans cowardly for not standing in nice neat rows to be fired upon. We adopted battle tactics from our native american allies and enemies. Attacking from where you cannot be seen, or fired back upon. Cowardly, haha. It's war, play to win, or go home. Battle A is real Battle B is a game In Battle A, real people really die, no fun is had, there are no devs around trying to make sure that all players on at least semi-equal footing, and every cheap tactic is valid if it keeps you out of a coffin. Battle B is supposed to be a balanced fun game where everyone has an equal chance of killing or being killed based on skill, experience, and effort spent on making your fittings survivable. This is not accomplished by allowing tanks to rely on inaccessible portions of the map to hide in while sniping the field. Here's an idea: If a person on your team earns WP (apart from equipment/squad leader WP) within the redline and doesn't leave the redline within 10 seconds, your redline disappears and enemies can enter it for the next minute. A countdown timer appears in the corner alerting people how long until the redline reappears. Boom, all redline issues fixed. MINMATAR ARISE! DEMAND that our race's suits be FIXED!!! *WE WILL NOT GIVE IN!!* MATARI PRIDE!! FIX TTK!!
Toby Flenderson research lab 142	Posted - 2013.12.09 15:11:00 - [59] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's cowardly and you deserve to lose your tank. Doesn't matter if it is a threat or not. You're basically sticking a banner over your head saying "I really *really* don't want to die!". Cowardly, hah. I redline sniped yesterday, given my team was redlined, and murdered some tanks and dropships. You know, during the revolutionary war, the British called the Americans cowardly for not standing in nice neat rows to be fired upon. We adopted battle tactics from our native american allies and enemies. Attacking from where you cannot be seen, or fired back upon. Cowardly, haha. It's war, play to win, or go home. It's a game. Live a little
Toby Flenderson research lab 142	Posted - 2013.12.09 15:20:00 - [60] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's cowardly and you deserve to lose your tank. Doesn't matter if it is a threat or not. You're basically sticking a banner over your head saying "I really *really* don't want to die!". Cowardly does not apply to this or any video game. Stop using that term ppl. It is about ppl wanting to play this game for fun and play it as effectively as they can without running in and getting shot over and over as a vanilla assault. That is boring and dumb. But that is what basic infantry is forGÇª cannon fodder. Most ppl would rather play smarter, not harder and use a game to prove there manhood. You don't have to run into gun fire to be a man. Don't like redline tactics? Blame CCP. Don't like that the only way to really win a game is to hack, hack, hack objectives? Blame CCP. Most ppl like to have fun with other stuff in this game. Redline rail tanking is legitimate for a long range tank. It's the damn maps that need expanding to allow for proper vehicle maneuvering instead of essentially spinning donuts around and around in a bowl shaped killbox. Redline rail tanks are the artillery units of this game and have their purpose. You can't really shoot a dropship down when you are out in the middle of a map. LAVs are easier to hit at a distance. Well with that argument people may as well boost or logi spam instead since it is more effective than rail tanking. There is a balance between fun and efficient ways to gain SP/ISK/victory etc. No one runs around with RE or nova knives because it is the most effective way to play. They do it because its more fun than an optimized WP strategy. Cowardly methods for achieving the same goals would be the ways that clearly value efficiency or defense more than fun or usefulness. Clearly a nova knifer is more brave in this sense than someone farming nano hives in the redline with a teammate. Moving gently along the spectrum of tactics you find rail tanks in the redline far from PLC and nova knives. Also long range doesn't mean you have to hide behind the redline. There are many places with better angles than the redline near ground spawns but you don see rail tanks there. People just stay there to be protected by it. No other reason.

Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 430	Posted - 2013.12.09 15:31:00 - [61] - Quote I die when I'm in the wrong red-line for to long. This line was installed in the game so people can't be spawn camped indefinitely. Instead Snipers and Rail tanks have abused the red-line by sitting in a area that can't be actively countered without learning how to spawn camp people in the red-line. Making the entire point of the red-line useless... its now just your Big brother you can hide behind and throw rocks at the bullies, while all the other little brothers get beat up for it at school. Red-line camping hurt's your team more then anything which is the biggest problem. There are snipers and rail tanks that have gotten 80% of their kills from inside their own red-line. That is messed up... people who red-line camp should be subjected to a Timer that renders all kills/assists/warpoints statistics disabled.
CLONE117 planetary retaliation organisation 498	Posted - 2013.12.09 16:22:00 - [62] - Quote i dont snipe with rail tank i just use the turrets and rely on my own teams active scanner spamming. and then i just spam rail gun rounds out of boredom. then i rush forward and shoot stuff when i realize is not a pubstomp. now when i go up against a rail tank during a match thats relatively a balanced fight. it annoys me. it annoys me so much that im willin to purchase an assault drop ship fly up there. jump out with ten other guys carrying proto av nades and av that that tank to death. then i look at my kill feed and know that it was money well spent.
Midas Fool Black Phoenix Mercenaries 247	Posted - 2013.12.09 16:46:00 - [63] - Quote Because Forge Gun. Because Plasma Cannon. Because Dropship gunning. Because I love watching you scramble to activate your reps. Because you are a general nuisance. Because +150 Madrugar Destruction. No, you aren't a "coward". You are using a Rail tank as its obvious intended purpose and everyone is trying to troll you into using "skill" or "honor" to get within their packed AV grenade range. Do your thing...just don't be surprised if people want to kill you after you take out after their ADS that costs twice as much as your tank. For best results press R1 repeatedly. Consult your doctor if your erection persists for more than four hours.
Foxhound Elite The Rainbow Effect 562	Posted - 2013.12.09 18:21:00 - [64] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Foxhound Elite wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Dropship i just LOS them when im in my python to be honest... they dont move much, that and rendering makes seeing a dropship over 250m away a stroke of luck or clever positioning. you are either a really bad railgun tanker or you're new at it. I'm one of the most experienced pilots in Dust, and yet railgun redline tanks two-shot me before I can change direction / accelerate away, from across the entire map... redline to redline. I just find redline railgun tankers to be cowards and everytime I fly into the redline, take you lot down to barely any health before the timers out, you end up recalling the bloody tank. It's just cowardice. Lol you obviously haven't been playing long. Fox has been here longer than I have, and he's been flying dropships since I met him right after Replication ended. Remember back when Line Harvest was the only map in rotation? Back then he was flying dropships at full speed beneath the table top in the center of the map. Bottom line: Fox knows of what he speaks. thank you kind sir. tbh my post was a bit harsh, I was just frustrated after coming off from a game where I lost my assault dropship to a railgun tank perched on a hill deep in the redline. Why do I fly such fragile things? Python pilot, troop-transport specialist and an all-round ballbag.
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 45	Posted - 2013.12.09 18:34:00 - [65] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: for the last 6 months they havnt been able to see infantry further then 30m why is it there mere sight of a railgun insights so much rage that 4-5 AV infantry instantly swamp it from outside render distance? come 1.7 i will exact my revenge bad furry style, and now that i will be able to see you prepaire to eat a rail shot to the face :P (bad furry was a better tanker then me, but i had better aim :P fear me infantry my wrath will be very disproportionate) Hate for any dude hideing in the redline thale snipers can get it to no safezone for you scrubs. The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu


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