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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
423
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Posted - 2013.12.08 15:57:00 -
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This guy doesn't know what hes talking about, the low range and ROF can make most med frames to survive, the low zoom sucks for getting headshots and the low clip size AND the magazine does not work with it's ROF, it cannot even kill a heavy when emptying a clip and you've only got about 4 or 5 clips to use anyways.
Assassination is my thing.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
1140
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Posted - 2013.12.08 15:58:00 -
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Somebody actually complained about getting killed by Plasma Cannons a few days ago, and now someone is complaint about pistols being OP? What is happening? Have the AR Brigade finaly run out of things to nerf?
[+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Level 1 Forum Warrior
The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
117
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:01:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Somebody actually complained about getting killed by Plasma Cannons a few days ago, and now someone is complaint about pistols being OP? What is happening? Have the AR Brigade finaly run out of things to nerf? Their getting upset because people like me are getting very good with our little pistols and know how to pump more damage out of them. And yes what was said earlier about 2 mags needed to kill a core 5 heavy is true. Thats actually why I carry a plasma cannon with my pistol at all times.
OP should seriously try running a single pistol as a light suit 24/7 see how situational that picky weapon can be.
Dedicated scout.
Player bodyguard
Pistol supremacy.
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
425
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:02:00 -
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You're not gonna stop me getting my carthrum btw
Assassination is my thing.
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Izlare Lenix
FREE AGENTS LP
19
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:09:00 -
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Somebody please tell me another sidearm you can use with 500K SP that kills advanced and proto gear including heavies up close, at 10, 20 and 30 meters and even kills out to 50 meters if you catch a dude in the open. While killing people with 4-6 shoots. All while using a militia suit WITHOUT damage mods, and without any proficiency skill. what other sidearm does that? The only real drawback of this gun is the ammo. But I was carrying a hive so its a simple fix. And with the tons of logi's on the field and supply depots if you can't top of your ammo you suck anyways. |
Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
118
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:14:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Somebody please tell me another sidearm you can use with 500K SP that kills advanced and proto gear including heavies up close, at 10, 20 and 30 meters and even kills out to 50 meters if you catch a dude in the open. While killing people with 4-6 shoots. All while using a militia suit WITHOUT damage mods, and without any proficiency skill. what other sidearm does that? The only real drawback of this gun is the ammo. But I was carrying a hive so its a simple fix. And with the tons of logi's on the field and supply depots if you can't top of your ammo you suck anyways. Knives will do the trick. Direct hits with the flaylock can still do it as well. This is a HIGH damage weapon and will likely remain so. Only saving grace is the damage and the multiplier. As far as logi's on the field, I cant go anywhere near that clusterfuck that is the mass of mediums plugging away at each other. Effective time in combat for my suit is a tenth of a second if Im caught in the open. Seriously, keep using the pistol on something other than a medium suit. Try it with a light suit as its meant to be used on. Quit trying to fix things that aren't broken :/
Dedicated scout.
Player bodyguard
Pistol supremacy.
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Yoma Carrim
Situation Normal all fraked up
63
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:15:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Somebody please tell me another sidearm you can use with 500K SP that kills advanced and proto gear including heavies up close, at 10, 20 and 30 meters and even kills out to 50 meters if you catch a dude in the open. While killing people with 4-6 shoots. All while using a militia suit WITHOUT damage mods, and without any proficiency skill. what other sidearm does that? The only real drawback of this gun is the ammo. But I was carrying a hive so its a simple fix. And with the tons of logi's on the field and supply depots if you can't top of your ammo you suck anyways.
Ishikon Assault SMG nuff said. heck the normal ASMG dose that just fine. As for the 4-6 shot kill please play a normal pub and see how many shots it takes to kill half the people in there
That time when you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck
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Izlare Lenix
FREE AGENTS LP
19
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:19:00 -
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Ishikon assault is a proto weapon, i was using an advanced weapon. Also i was in normal pub matches. mostly FW. |
Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
119
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:19:00 -
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Yoma Carrim wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Somebody please tell me another sidearm you can use with 500K SP that kills advanced and proto gear including heavies up close, at 10, 20 and 30 meters and even kills out to 50 meters if you catch a dude in the open. While killing people with 4-6 shoots. All while using a militia suit WITHOUT damage mods, and without any proficiency skill. what other sidearm does that? The only real drawback of this gun is the ammo. But I was carrying a hive so its a simple fix. And with the tons of logi's on the field and supply depots if you can't top of your ammo you suck anyways. Ishikon Assault SMG nuff said. heck the normal ASMG dose that just fine. As for the 4-6 shot kill please play a normal pub and see how many shots it takes to kill half the people in there Your sig! Omg your siggy is what I do with my scout quite a bit when coming around corners XD Just add jumping and dodging bullets to the mix.
On the note of normal faction war matches, takes anywhere from 6 shots to a full mag. Six is with a headshot to drop shielding and a chunk of armor.
Dedicated scout.
Player bodyguard
Pistol supremacy.
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
1866
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:22:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Somebody please tell me another sidearm you can use with 500K SP that kills advanced and proto gear including heavies up close, at 10, 20 and 30 meters and even kills out to 50 meters if you catch a dude in the open. While killing people with 4-6 shoots. All while using a militia suit WITHOUT damage mods, and without any proficiency skill. what other sidearm does that? The only real drawback of this gun is the ammo. But I was carrying a hive so its a simple fix. And with the tons of logi's on the field and supply depots if you can't top of your ammo you suck anyways. Assault SMG - done.
22 damage per round; over 17 rounds per second; more than 374dps before prof and damage mods. That's like 5 body shots from your pistol in a second. Can you tap the button that fast whilst keeping your aim on? And you can easily kill people over 30m away with the ASMG.
At 50m your pistol is doing negligible damage and I'd never count using half your ammo to kill just one person at 50m as being even remotely worth it or something to cheer about in the slightest.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2502
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:23:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Chunky its obvious you are not a genius as I did one academy battle and then seven more games outside of academy. I have stated that several times.
You really don't get sarcasm do you?
No.
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
119
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:23:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Ishikon assault is a proto weapon, i was using an advanced weapon. Also i was in normal pub matches. mostly FW. Advanced weapons are exactly that. Their advanced. 3 hours of gameplay is nothing to base test results on. Yes it is a very powerful weapon in a solid players hands. However despite the screaming of idiots, pistol is not op anymore and is indeed the most balanced weapon around.
Dedicated scout.
Player bodyguard
Pistol supremacy.
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
119
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:25:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:No just freaking no! This is literally the gun that saves my ass on a regular bases if this nerf happens I'm putting a bounty on your head for 20 million isk. Ill be upping that bounty to 50 mill and a free pair of clean boots.
Dedicated scout.
Player bodyguard
Pistol supremacy.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8491
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:31:00 -
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It's topics like these that make me worry about the future of this game. No doubt CCP is killing it themselves, but the community seems to like helping.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
120
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:35:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:It's topics like these that make me worry about the future of this game. No doubt CCP is killing it themselves, but the community seems to like helping. People are indeed idiots...Sadly this is likely to continue on left and right. However a saving grace is that ccp doesn't coddle every whining person just what the majority of people say. They look at things and determine themselves if its balanced fairly. This person can complain all they want, throw money into the game so they feel they have a legal say in the matter if necessary. Fact is, the scrambler pistols are still the most balanced weapon around and its only just recently getting more attention thanks to the hundred if not thousands of mercs slain by myself and the people I've trained on it along with the few other dedicated users. I personally feel that CCP is doing fine with the game, they just need to introduce tiered matches for the future to solve alot of stomping issues when its just equipment thats the difference. People will see its more skill than the equipment eventually. Though I gotta admit, when its a klo vs a imperial scrambler its kinda one sided outside of 20m
Dedicated scout.
Player bodyguard
Pistol supremacy.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
580
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:44:00 -
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Ivy Zalinto wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:No just freaking no! This is literally the gun that saves my ass on a regular bases if this nerf happens I'm putting a bounty on your head for 20 million isk. Ill be upping that bounty to 50 mill and a free pair of clean boots.
You should change your sig to say pistol supremacist. Or not just a friendly sujestion.
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
121
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:47:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Ivy Zalinto wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:No just freaking no! This is literally the gun that saves my ass on a regular bases if this nerf happens I'm putting a bounty on your head for 20 million isk. Ill be upping that bounty to 50 mill and a free pair of clean boots. You should change your sig to say pistol supremacist. Or not just a friendly sujestion. Lol yeah i thought about that earlier and gave it a fair think over. Its just filling space for my sig. The weapon itself actually is balanced. Ever try a breach or the burst? They actually need a bit of a buff. Not so much the breach, but the burst does.
Dedicated scout.
Player bodyguard
Pistol supremacy.
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Guildo Crow
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
167
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:49:00 -
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Aside from all the bickering. I'd like to address one aspect that the OP seems to have in his mind, that's completely incorrect.
ANY suit should be able to kill, ANY other suit.
Just because you are using a militia, or a militia variant of any weapon, module or suit, doesn't mean you should not be able to kill another using a higher Tier version.
There is a reason why there are diminishing returns with higher tier items. No one should be outclassed by SP alone.
And as an avid Militia/ Standard user, I think this game does a pretty decent job. ( a bit more fine tuning required though)
So get that assumption out of your noggin. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
726
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:56:00 -
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OP Sounds like you know are not a bad player, landing shots at 50m with the SCrP is not a simple feat, I question the skill of the player you unloaded two clips into at that distance butGǪ
Django made the points I would have made so I will not repeat those, as Django makes measured and reasonable responses, and I play my SCrP in a similar fashion (without dmg mods ) What I will add isGǪ
Many of us using the SCrP are doing doing so dusting the regular proto times, and punching armour tanked fits with a weapon designed for shields is not easy. Most of us could switch to a higher range, higher DPS weapon and do much better with little investment.
Please before you make the conclusion that the SCrP is OP do a few experiments with different levels of play with it. Also I would suggest replicating your experiment using your preferred weapon and comparing the results in similar circumstances. Create a new toon and do the same experiment controlling as many variables as you can, see how the results compare?
Thank you
(Also the Breach SCrP is a totally different way of shooting great for improving your gun game)
I shot a man in Black Rise onceGǪ Just to watch him die
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
2697
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:59:00 -
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So last night me and my bro-dogs ran some Skirm. We tore those noobs up!
Then we get into a match with some dudes named Mr Musturd and Cyrius Li-Moody. I knew they were friends 'cause they were running around like skinny little b*tches together in their Scout Suits. We ended up beating 'em and we all had like 5.0 and 10.0 KDRs (so you know we L33T). Musturd and Moody barely even went positive. They aren't even good (I checked their KDRs). That's how I know there's a problem with Scrambler Pistols ...
So I'm blasting some noob then out of nowhere blap-blap-blap-swoosh and I'm down. I was p*ssed! My buddies were laughing cause I kinda screamed a little. I hadn't died all night. Seriously, I had been posting like 20/0s and 30/0s all night. I steady pull those WP and anything under 10.0 is a bad game for me. I got my Logi dog and Fine Rifle, Proficiency V. Get on my level, dog ... that's mad-skills Proficiency 5 ... me and all my dogs.
Anyhow, a little while after I got hit, the same thing happened to my bro-dog. My bro-dog's like probably one of the best Scrambler Rifle users in the game. He kills sh*t in like under a half second. Doesn't even have to aim. So that's when we stopped laughing. Both of those Scouts were running Scrambler Pistols.
Those Scouts kept getting behind us with those bullsh*t scrambler pistols, and sometimes they could kill us before we even had a chance to defend ourselves. That's OP, dude. Even when a guy with a shotgun gets behind me, I can kill him no problem. It's easy cause I got like 1,200 HP (like all my bro-dogs). But some dude sneaks up behind me with a pistol and a knife? And I don't get a chance to defend myself? That's bullsh*t and I can prove it.
Afterwards, I created an alt and dumped all the SP I got into Scrambler Pistols. I ran through the Academy and ... |
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
122
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:02:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:So last night me and my bro-dogs ran some Skirm. We tore those noobs up! Then we get into a match with some dudes named Mr Musturd and Cyrius Li-Moody. I knew they were friends 'cause they were running around like skinny little b*tches together in their Scout Suits. We ended up beating 'em and we all had like 5.0 and 10.0 KDRs. Musturd and Moody barely even went positive. They aren't even good (I checked their KDRs). That's how I know there's a problem with Scrambler Pistols ... So I'm blasting some noob then out of nowhere blap-blap-blap-swoosh and I'm down. I was p*ssed! My buddies were laughing cause I kinda screamed a little. I hadn't died all night. Seriously, I had been posting like 20/0s and 30/0s all night. I steady pull those WP and anything under 10.0 is a bad game for me. I got my Logi dog and Fine Rifle, Proficiency V. Get on my level, dog ... that's mad-skills Proficiency 5 ... me and all my dogs. Anyhow, a little while after I got hit, the same thing happened to my bro-dog. My bro-dog's like probably one of the best Scrambler Rifle users in the game. He kills sh*t in like under a half second. Doesn't even have to aim. So that's when we stopped laughing. Both of those Scouts were running Scrambler Pistols. Those Scouts kept getting behind us with those bullsh*t scrambler pistols, and sometimes they could kill us before we even had a chance to defend ourselves. That's OP, dude. Even when a guy with a shotgun gets behind me, I can kill him no problem. It's easy cause I got like 1,200 HP (like all my bro-dogs). But some dude sneaks up behind me with a pistol and a knife? And I don't get a chance to defend myself? That's bullsh*t and I can prove it. Afterwards, I created an alt and dumped all the SP I got into Scrambler Pistols. I ran through the Academy and ... Its the same as a shotgun mate. Where your extra damage comes from multiple pellets hitting a target, ours comes from piercing damage applied to helmets.
Dedicated scout.
Player bodyguard
Scrambler Pistol User
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Ghost Kaisar
THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED
1004
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:08:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:So last night me and my L33T bro-dogs ran some Skirm. We tore those noobs up! After like five games of 20/0s and 30/0s, we get into a match with some dudes named Mr Musturd and Cyrius Li-Moody. I knew they were friends 'cause they were running around like skinny little b*tches together in their Scout Suits. We ended up beating 'em and we all still had like 5.0 and 10.0 KDRs. Musturd and Moody barely even went positive. They aren't even good ... I checked their KDRs. That's how I know there's a problem with Scrambler Pistols ... So I'm blasting some noob then out of nowhere blap-blap-blap-swoosh and I'm down. I was p*ssed! My buddies were laughing cause I kinda screamed a little. I hadn't died all night. Seriously, I had been posting like 20/0s and 30/0s all night. I steady pull those WP and anything under 10.0 is a bad game for me. I got my Logi dog and Fine Rifle, Proficiency V. Get on my level, dog ... that's mad-skills Proficiency 5 ... me and all my dogs. Anyhow, a little while after I got hit, the same thing happened to my bro-dog. My bro-dog's like probably one of the best Scrambler Rifle users in the game. He kills sh*t in like under a half second. Doesn't even have to aim. So that's when we stopped laughing. Both of those Scouts were running Scrambler Pistols. Those Scouts kept getting behind us with those bullsh*t scrambler pistols, and sometimes they could kill us before we even had a chance to defend ourselves. That's OP, dude. Even when a guy with a shotgun gets behind me, I can kill him no problem. It's easy cause I got like 1,200 HP (like all my bro-dogs). But some dude sneaks up behind me with a pistol and a knife? And I don't get a chance to defend myself? That's bullsh*t and I can prove it. Afterwards, I created an alt and dumped all the SP I got into Scrambler Pistols. I ran through the Academy and ...
AAAANNNNNDDD
There went my morning coffee. All over my monitor.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3335
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:09:00 -
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I could stomp the academy with a plasma cannon (and I have)
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
582
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:10:00 -
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Ivy Zalinto wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Ivy Zalinto wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:No just freaking no! This is literally the gun that saves my ass on a regular bases if this nerf happens I'm putting a bounty on your head for 20 million isk. Ill be upping that bounty to 50 mill and a free pair of clean boots. You should change your sig to say pistol supremacist. Or not just a friendly sujestion. Lol yeah i thought about that earlier and gave it a fair think over. Its just filling space for my sig. The weapon itself actually is balanced. Ever try a breach or the burst? They actually need a bit of a buff. Not so much the breach, but the burst does.
I used to main scrambler pistols all the time back in the day. Check out this thread of mine from way back when (I am the OP if you'll notice the sig on the OP):
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=63611
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
2057
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:10:00 -
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Lol.
The day comes that side arms get nerfed and cannot kill someone in a clip (which 90% of suits take an entire clip to take down from a pistol, you ******* tourist) I'm out of here. You heard it first. The day idiots like this guy right here win and my side arms get nerfed into oblivion like the flaylock because some dude thinks an 11 shot pistol is OP is the day I officially throw my PS3 out the window.
I guess since this pistol is OP and I have so many skill points into it i should be going 50+/0 just like everyone wit a fully skilled duvolle. Oh wait.... I DONT! NOBODY DOES! BECAUSE ITS A ******* PISTOL!
The fact that you had to sink multiple clips into people at range makes LOL. Thats it. It's OP man. You have to use over HALF your ammo pool to kill someone outside of 20m.
So OP.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Ghost Kaisar
THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED
1009
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:15:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Lol.
The day comes that side arms get nerfed and cannot kill someone in a clip (which 90% of suits take an entire clip to take down from a pistol, you ******* tourist) I'm out of here. You heard it first.
The day idiots like this guy right here win and my side arms get nerfed into oblivion like the flaylock because some dude thinks an 11 shot pistol is OP is the day I officially throw my PS3 out the window.
I guess since this pistol is OP and I have so many skill points into it i should be going 50+/0 just like everyone wit a fully skilled duvolle. Oh wait.... I DONT! NOBODY DOES! BECAUSE ITS A ******* PISTOL YOU NOOB
Don't throw the PS3 out the window!
We can still play Destiny when it comes out!
(actually more excited for destiny than the scout buff....)
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
2059
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:20:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:
Don't throw the PS3 out the window!
We can still play Destiny when it comes out!
(actually more excited for destiny than the scout buff....)
I just called someone a noob and tourist. This game is officially getting to me.
He still is a noob and tourist.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Phazoid
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
110
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:21:00 -
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if someone is fully skilled on the scrambler pistol and is a good player why he shouldnt murder everyone?, you need to be deadly accurate for the pistol to work properly, the weapon is powerful yes, but not op by a long shot, face it, every weapon can be used to kill everyone if you have the skill, even shotguns can murder everyone.
Me and my inner demons stopped fighting......We are on the same side now...
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
2064
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:31:00 -
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Phazoid wrote:if someone is fully skilled on the scrambler pistol and is a good player why he shouldnt murder everyone?
Because it isn't an AR.
Because it isn't a light weapon.
Because it is a side arm.
Because he says so.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
210
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:32:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:
Don't throw the PS3 out the window!
We can still play Destiny when it comes out!
(actually more excited for destiny than the scout buff....)
I just called someone a noob and tourist. This game is officially getting to me. He still is a noob and tourist.
Dont sad moody, dont sad, Tech De Ra has been on tip of this for a long time :D,
The pistols as they stand are OP, but not as much as the op seems to think
I have discussed the pistol with wolfman and remnant extensively regarding a change that is a small nerf that wouldnt make the gun useless
Tech De Ra // Electronic Sports League Games Co-ordinator
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