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Ivy Zalinto
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Posted - 2013.12.08 15:52:00 -
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Honestly, the scrambler pistol is one of the best balanced weapons in the game. ANY weapon is overpowered as hell in the right hands. Especially once you get practice in. Just because its a sidearm doesnt mean it can kill you any less efficiently.
I main a single pistol, generally the tt-3 yes and will continue to do so long after this coming patch. I highly doubt they will get a nerf any time soon.
Pistols are high damage low rate of rife crit weapons that have very little range. But they fill a niche aside from keeping snipers alive. Their good for keeping shotguns off of me and killing any black suit I come across. Except black and yellow gallente suits...those things have a lot of armor.
Quit bitching about nice things. Especially ones that are actually fair.
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Ivy Zalinto
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Posted - 2013.12.08 15:53:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:I don't believe this fifty meter number at all. That is more than half a football field. I think that you are just a terrible judge of distance. Try 30 or 35 for an effective use range maybe even less.
Try more like 20 meters. The irons are good but if you engage outside of your range with the pistol your likely to lose if they know what their doing.
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Ivy Zalinto
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:01:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Somebody actually complained about getting killed by Plasma Cannons a few days ago, and now someone is complaint about pistols being OP? What is happening? Have the AR Brigade finaly run out of things to nerf?
Their getting upset because people like me are getting very good with our little pistols and know how to pump more damage out of them. And yes what was said earlier about 2 mags needed to kill a core 5 heavy is true. Thats actually why I carry a plasma cannon with my pistol at all times.
OP should seriously try running a single pistol as a light suit 24/7 see how situational that picky weapon can be.
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Ivy Zalinto
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:14:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Somebody please tell me another sidearm you can use with 500K SP that kills advanced and proto gear including heavies up close, at 10, 20 and 30 meters and even kills out to 50 meters if you catch a dude in the open. While killing people with 4-6 shoots. All while using a militia suit WITHOUT damage mods, and without any proficiency skill. what other sidearm does that? The only real drawback of this gun is the ammo. But I was carrying a hive so its a simple fix. And with the tons of logi's on the field and supply depots if you can't top of your ammo you suck anyways.
Knives will do the trick. Direct hits with the flaylock can still do it as well. This is a HIGH damage weapon and will likely remain so. Only saving grace is the damage and the multiplier. As far as logi's on the field, I cant go anywhere near that clusterfuck that is the mass of mediums plugging away at each other. Effective time in combat for my suit is a tenth of a second if Im caught in the open. Seriously, keep using the pistol on something other than a medium suit. Try it with a light suit as its meant to be used on. Quit trying to fix things that aren't broken :/
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Ivy Zalinto
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:19:00 -
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Yoma Carrim wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Somebody please tell me another sidearm you can use with 500K SP that kills advanced and proto gear including heavies up close, at 10, 20 and 30 meters and even kills out to 50 meters if you catch a dude in the open. While killing people with 4-6 shoots. All while using a militia suit WITHOUT damage mods, and without any proficiency skill. what other sidearm does that? The only real drawback of this gun is the ammo. But I was carrying a hive so its a simple fix. And with the tons of logi's on the field and supply depots if you can't top of your ammo you suck anyways. Ishikon Assault SMG nuff said. heck the normal ASMG dose that just fine. As for the 4-6 shot kill please play a normal pub and see how many shots it takes to kill half the people in there 
Your sig! Omg your siggy is what I do with my scout quite a bit when coming around corners XD Just add jumping and dodging bullets to the mix.
On the note of normal faction war matches, takes anywhere from 6 shots to a full mag. Six is with a headshot to drop shielding and a chunk of armor.
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Ivy Zalinto
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:23:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Ishikon assault is a proto weapon, i was using an advanced weapon. Also i was in normal pub matches. mostly FW.
Advanced weapons are exactly that. Their advanced. 3 hours of gameplay is nothing to base test results on. Yes it is a very powerful weapon in a solid players hands. However despite the screaming of idiots, pistol is not op anymore and is indeed the most balanced weapon around.
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Ivy Zalinto
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:25:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:No just freaking no! This is literally the gun that saves my ass on a regular bases if this nerf happens I'm putting a bounty on your head for 20 million isk.
Ill be upping that bounty to 50 mill and a free pair of clean boots.
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Ivy Zalinto
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:35:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:It's topics like these that make me worry about the future of this game. No doubt CCP is killing it themselves, but the community seems to like helping.
People are indeed idiots...Sadly this is likely to continue on left and right. However a saving grace is that ccp doesn't coddle every whining person just what the majority of people say. They look at things and determine themselves if its balanced fairly. This person can complain all they want, throw money into the game so they feel they have a legal say in the matter if necessary. Fact is, the scrambler pistols are still the most balanced weapon around and its only just recently getting more attention thanks to the hundred if not thousands of mercs slain by myself and the people I've trained on it along with the few other dedicated users. I personally feel that CCP is doing fine with the game, they just need to introduce tiered matches for the future to solve alot of stomping issues when its just equipment thats the difference. People will see its more skill than the equipment eventually. Though I gotta admit, when its a klo vs a imperial scrambler its kinda one sided outside of 20m
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Ivy Zalinto
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:47:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Ivy Zalinto wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:No just freaking no! This is literally the gun that saves my ass on a regular bases if this nerf happens I'm putting a bounty on your head for 20 million isk. Ill be upping that bounty to 50 mill and a free pair of clean boots. You should change your sig to say pistol supremacist. Or not just a friendly sujestion.
Lol yeah i thought about that earlier and gave it a fair think over. Its just filling space for my sig. The weapon itself actually is balanced. Ever try a breach or the burst? They actually need a bit of a buff. Not so much the breach, but the burst does.
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Ivy Zalinto
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:02:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:So last night me and my bro-dogs ran some Skirm. We tore those noobs up! Then we get into a match with some dudes named Mr Musturd and Cyrius Li-Moody. I knew they were friends 'cause they were running around like skinny little b*tches together in their Scout Suits. We ended up beating 'em and we all had like 5.0 and 10.0 KDRs. Musturd and Moody barely even went positive. They aren't even good (I checked their KDRs). That's how I know there's a problem with Scrambler Pistols ... So I'm blasting some noob then out of nowhere blap-blap-blap-swoosh and I'm down. I was p*ssed! My buddies were laughing cause I kinda screamed a little. I hadn't died all night. Seriously, I had been posting like 20/0s and 30/0s all night. I steady pull those WP and anything under 10.0 is a bad game for me. I got my Logi dog and Fine Rifle, Proficiency V. Get on my level, dog ... that's mad-skills Proficiency 5 ... me and all my dogs. Anyhow, a little while after I got hit, the same thing happened to my bro-dog. My bro-dog's like probably one of the best Scrambler Rifle users in the game. He kills sh*t in like under a half second. Doesn't even have to aim. So that's when we stopped laughing. Both of those Scouts were running Scrambler Pistols. Those Scouts kept getting behind us with those bullsh*t scrambler pistols, and sometimes they could kill us before we even had a chance to defend ourselves. That's OP, dude. Even when a guy with a shotgun gets behind me, I can kill him no problem. It's easy cause I got like 1,200 HP (like all my bro-dogs). But some dude sneaks up behind me with a pistol and a knife? And I don't get a chance to defend myself? That's bullsh*t and I can prove it. Afterwards, I created an alt and dumped all the SP I got into Scrambler Pistols. I ran through the Academy and ... 
Its the same as a shotgun mate. Where your extra damage comes from multiple pellets hitting a target, ours comes from piercing damage applied to helmets.
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Ivy Zalinto
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:12:00 -
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People don't seem to realize that sidearms should be just as efficient at killing as every other weapon out there. Most naval officers carry what on a ship? A sidearm when on duty. When they go to alert they might have a rifle but trust me to say a pistol is most sufficient to kill things if necessary. Ill be hunting people with a viziam today. Feel like wasting a bit of money in exchange for some fun.
Aim assist doesn't effect my pistols it seems. As I never turned it on. You've played me once before right? How'd I do if you remember.
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Ivy Zalinto
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Posted - 2013.12.09 00:58:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:I did one academy battle to get used to the weapon and then seven pub matches. Yet people are ignoring the info I posted about the pub matches. They are also ignoring the fact this was done with a one day old toon with 475k SP. The ScP lovers can believe what they want but it doesn't change the screen caps I posted from pub matches. The main problem is not what the ScP can do but how fast it does it. I dropped most of my targets before they even got a shoot off. I also killed several in groups. The match I played against ANONYMOUS they were running together. But I could still pick a few off before they killed me time and time again.
Alot of people are saying the scrambler rifle is OP because it kills so fast. Theses pistols kill almost as fast as a rifle. But yeah that sounds balanced.
Huge range difference. Judging from the responses in this thread the popular vote is that they are a threat in the right hands, but see so little action outside of those that specialize in them that they likely wont be changed if only very little. When the free market comes around ill be upgrading to wolfman pistol on my good suits. Then people will really complain. I currently have ...3. Just stop trying to chase the scouts down, we will rip your face off when you corner us with anything at our disposal including the mag from the plasma cannon (you know the little tube thing that you load into it?). You might just need to vary your tactics vs pistol users...like not get close to them.
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Ivy Zalinto
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Posted - 2013.12.09 01:20:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:So does this mean well be seeing Nyan Sain running around with Carthums and Viziams? I'd reinstall just to see that.
I matched against them yesterday...couldnt get in range to use my pistol at all XD So I pulled out a laser rifle and aimed for the suits that looked the most expensive. Not that it hurt them much, just made me feel better
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