The problem is the game can't keep up with it.
Were you here when Scouts were literally invincible if they got anywhere near you? You had to spin the opposite direction to ambush them into your shots.

The game runs at an average of 10fps, according to my PVRs, Scouts simply can't function on a game that is made this poorly. 10m/s is usually breaking the limit this game can take. Sometimes when I play Scout, I actually get nauseous because of the high speed and choppy frames.

10 fps? Are you serious? lol.

That can't be right, well there is PC but for pubs and FW that cant be, no one would play this game at all if it was averaging 10fps. I know i can't count frames with my eyes and haven't actually tested dust but based on experience in other games the average of this game should be around 20fps. The game doesn't exactly run smooth in pubs either but 10 frames would have it running choppy as **** 24/7.

Is it just me, or have scouts just been nerfed repeatedly since Uprising? I seem ro remember that they moved faster and that passive scanning wasn't complete bullshit before the devs started pushing active scanners on us.Maybe just un-crapping on scouts is what's needed.

The scout suit is fine as it is. It really seems like people just expect to go from an assault suit with high HP to a scout suit with no real tactic changes. Speed should not make you invincible, it should just help you sneak around or take advantage of tactical opportunities. People complaining that they can't run through bullets never ceases to amaze me.

Apparently a Proto Minnie w/ Cmp KinKats, is almost gamebreaking according to IWS. Even though a Proto Gal scout can already go faster. I will continue to persevere as a dedicated scout, but have all but given up hope that CCP will do anything to address the scout suit anytime SOON. This game will become even more boring when a there are nothing but Medium frames on the field.

I'm a dedicated scout & I don't want more HP, I wouldn't mind 2 more slots(1 equipment, 1(hi/low)), But what I really want is my speed & stamina. But to state that the Scout suit is fine, is pure blasphemy. I have 0 desire to wear a Med frame, all of my tactics require speed & stealth. But my suit doesn't have enough of either. If I want stealth, I have to give up HP's. If I want speed, I have to give up even more HP's. & neither would be an issue if they were marginally effective ATM. ie; I could sneak past a entire team, work my way to the objective. & the second I step within 30m of a installation i'm spotted by any enemy spawning at that moment. & since I fitted for speed & stealth, I have no HP(<300) & no backup, which = a dead scout. I play my role, but recently my role has been playing me

because it breaks hit detection horribly, you wanna see scouts dodging through a solid steam of bullets with out taking damage again???

don't get me wrong I'm a scout and would love it but last time scouts moved reasonably fast they were game breaking.

They don't need to be faster if you use them more carefully.

When I have to be within 5m or 0(w/ Nova Knives), careful goes out the window after the first shot.

it define the purposes of a scout

You're basing that on an old patch that dates back to closed beta.

Since then, there have been a bunch of optimizations and refinements done to hit detection to the point where almost all of the bullets now his their mark nowadays. There is also the aim assist which has been revamped.

Back then, speed tanking really was a problem BECAUSE of the bad hit detection and no aim assist back in closed beta.

Nowadays, speed tanking is no longer practical. In fact, it's not longer viable as a valid tactic even in a random pub match because hit detection is now sooooooo good and aim assist is working so well. If I get spotted and I don't find cover in the next 0.5 seconds I'm dead.

NO, it defines the purpose of a LIGHT SUIT, not the scout. I agree that the LIGHT SUIT which is what the Scout Suit is based upon should get a base speed increase, but the job of the scout is to infiltrate and return intel. NOT run fast or melee or minja or whatever... Those are all just flavors that different players want to have.

Light Suit = giving up heavier equipment to be faster/mobile
Scout Suit = sub-class of a Light Suit that specializes in infiltration/intel

I would like to see all suits, Shield Extenders, Armour Plate, etc buffed by 25% HP across the board. This would extend the Time To Kill (TTK) enough to give people time to react. I know from testing that it is not hard to strafe out of the Aim Assist Lock. The problem is that you are dead before you have time to react.

While this would not specifically be a Scout Buff, it would give a Scout more leeway to use the speed the Scout has currently, and the smaller hit box, to more effectively speed tank. The difference between it taking 4 bullets to kill you and it taking 5 bullets does not seem like much, but if you can get clear after being hit 4 times, then it would be making all the difference in the world.

This is not to say that Scouts donGÇÖt need other buffs as well. I am just saying that the ridiculously short TTK is at the root of many problems, and is hitting Scouts particularly hard.

They don't need more strafe speed, just sprint speed

I used to run at 13m/s ;_; Why did you nerf us without any patch notes or announcements beforehand!

Apparently a Proto Minnie w/ Cmp KinKats, is almost gamebreaking according to IWS. Even though a Proto Gal scout can already go faster. I will continue to persevere as a dedicated scout, but have all but given up hope that CCP will do anything to address the scout suit anytime SOON. This game will become even more boring when a there are nothing but Medium frames on the field.

The problem with this assumption of your is that not all scouts are strictly for infiltration and intel gathering. The Minmatar Scout is a clear example of that.

Minmatar Scout Dropsuit Skill Book:

• 5% Reduction to Profile Scan per Level
• 5% Bonus to Nova Knife Damage per Level
• 5% Bonus to Melee Damage per level

Fittings on the Scout Mk.0
High Slots = 3
Low Slots = 2

The overall design of this suit flying directly in the face of what you're saying. The Minmatar Scout is practically a close-quarter fighter which is why you often see most shotgunners and flaylockers wear the Mini Scout. Very few players use the Gallente Scout for anything other than intel gathering.

You didn't read my links did you... If you had you would have discovered that I had already addressed that. =P

The problem is the game can't keep up with it.
Were you here when Scouts were literally invincible if they got anywhere near you? You had to spin the opposite direction to ambush them into your shots.

The game runs at an average of 10fps, according to my PVRs, Scouts simply can't function on a game that is made this poorly. 10m/s is usually breaking the limit this game can take. Sometimes when I play Scout, I actually get nauseous because of the high speed and choppy frames.

NO, it defines the purpose of a LIGHT SUIT, not the scout. I agree that the LIGHT SUIT which is what the Scout Suit is based upon should get a base speed increase, but the job of the scout is to infiltrate and return intel. NOT run fast or melee or minja or whatever... Those are all just flavors that different players want to have.

Light Suit = giving up heavier equipment to be faster/mobile
Scout Suit = sub-class of a Light Suit that specializes in infiltration/intel
Pilot Suit = sub-class of Light Suit that specializes in piloting vehicles

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1571109#post1571109

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1568428#post1568428

That was a bunch of nonsense
Why would someone in a minmatar pilot suit care about melee damage?

You didn't read my links did you... If you had you would have discovered that I had already addressed that. =P