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CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 434	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:13:00 - [1] - Quote gained about 420k passive SP through not playing thi sgame. play it for 10 minutes and realise why, sorry to play the broken record and then sing to the choir but every. single. game. is a ******* proto-stomp. there's no balance, no variety. what patch is going to bring balance and stop guns doing 3x the damage that other guns do@/? new players gauranteed are running out of ISK to the point where they can't play the game anymore. You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
Aisha Ctarl 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 2002	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:15:00 - [2] - Quote Currently looking up your IP address so I can call your ISP to get your address to punch you in the face. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5844	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:17:00 - [3] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Currently looking up your IP address so I can call your ISP to get your address to punch you in the face. lololol Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1192	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:17:00 - [4] - Quote ^ Dibs on 2nd punch. "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 434	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:17:00 - [5] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Currently looking up your IP address so I can call your ISP to get your address to punch you in the face. go on and do it then, keep playing a game where a SCR does over 1200+dmg in 1 second. the game is dying and ridiculous. play BF3 and get 2.0 KDR average every game best being 5.8, play DUST and can't even go positive besides one stopmp 19-3 game, put people on a level playing field then we'll see some skill. just asking what patch is going to bring balance. back to hibernation for me. You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
abarkrishna warravens 131	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:18:00 - [6] - Quote Do not mind him he was a ****. SCR does need a nerf to RATE OF FIRE. NOTHING ELSE. The damage per round is fine. It is just the rate of fire No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 436	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:20:00 - [7] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: How do you find a scrambler rifle user on the forums? ^^^^ just look on the roof, or un der a rock you will find at least one or 7. SCR is fun but there's no balance in doing 100+ hp per bullet whilst the guy shooting at you only does 40. You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4463	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:22:00 - [8] - Quote You know what? Next time we meet in a match, I will not touch my SCR, will go Duvolle, and show you how much the difference between the two is negligible. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 3557	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:23:00 - [9] - Quote The ASCR definitely needs a nerf. Anyone who says "Bu- but Knight, it hawd to aim " Will get a slap from me personally. If its hard to aim, half the damn people using it wouldn't be able to blindfire with the damn thing. Needs to overheat, at around half to three quarters of it's magazine. Forum Prison Escapee Yes, 1.7 is going to suck. Proto Min Logi here I come! T_T
Tectonic Fusion 654	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:24:00 - [10] - Quote Compared to the Duvolle it's balanced. Plus you need the Amarr Assault suit for it to be truly overpowered. Without 2 complex damage mods besides using an Imperial, the gun is garbage compared to my toxin AR. Solo Player Squad status: Locked

TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1586	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:25:00 - [11] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Currently looking up your IP address so I can call your ISP to get your address to punch you in the face. You know, I might just join in, you can come to my door and punch me, then I'll **** you with no lube and keep you tied up for a week just for laughs and then you can walk home butt naked. Nerf the scr, its actually easiest mode, I run this with my proto amarr assault with 3 complex damage mods, its more lol than the ar, at least the ar kicks a bit. Come at me gimp. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 436	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:25:00 - [12] - Quote !nooooo don't take away mt beloved scrambler rifle I need to own scrubs some more. doing 100 damage per shot is fine, becuase I kill n00bs with it. don't put me on a level playing field, pleeeeeeeeeeeease don't!!! You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
Kane Fyea 2332	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:26:00 - [13] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: The ASCR definitely needs a nerf. Anyone who says "Bu- but Knight, it hawd to aim " Will get a slap from me personally. If its hard to aim, half the damn people using it wouldn't be able to blindfire with the damn thing. Needs to overheat, at around half to three quarters of it's magazine. I always aim with it unless i'm in CQC. Also the AR is still better then the AScR.
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 436	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:27:00 - [14] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Currently looking up your IP address so I can call your ISP to get your address to punch you in the face. You know, I might just join in, you can come to my door and punch me, then I'll **** you with no lube and keep you tied up for a week just for laughs and then you can walk home butt naked. Nerf the scr, its actually easiest mode, I run this with my proto amarr assault with 3 complex damage mods, its more lol than the ar, at least the ar kicks a bit. Come at me gimp. thank thank thank you im drunk and saying whatever I want to. the SCR is the easies tof easy mode wepaons, anyone who defends it just doesn't what it to be nerfed so they can continue to abuse it. i went 33-2 on a 3M SP alt, the peopel could NOT mathetmacially take me down. back to BF3 to leanr gun-game where we deal the same damage and have the same HP. like i keep saying, imagine QUake or Doom, what would you do if one guy had 400hp whilst you had 100? what would you do whilst that guy dealt 100hp per shot and you dealt 30hp? would the be balanced? hell no You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 436	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:27:00 - [15] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Currently looking up your IP address so I can call your ISP to get your address to punch you in the face. You know, I might just join in, you can come to my door and punch me, then I'll **** you with no lube and keep you tied up for a week just for laughs and then you can walk home butt naked. Nerf the scr, its actually easiest mode, I run this with my proto amarr assault with 3 complex damage mods, its more lol than the ar, at least the ar kicks a bit. Come at me gimp. i keep a gun and swords/knives just for pricks like this. that;s also we have an extemely long gravelly/noisy driveway come at me bro!! You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 443	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:28:00 - [16] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Compared to the Duvolle it's balanced. Plus you need the Amarr Assault suit for it to be truly overpowered. Without 2 complex damage mods besides using an Imperial, the gun is garbage compared to my toxin AR. I've only got 2x enhanced armour and 2x enahcned damage mods on my SCR alt. if my 12m SP main gets 2.3 KDR yet my 2m SP SCR alt can get 10.0 KDR with a SCR then something is wrong. You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
Kane Fyea 2332	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:30:00 - [17] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Currently looking up your IP address so I can call your ISP to get your address to punch you in the face. You know, I might just join in, you can come to my door and punch me, then I'll **** you with no lube and keep you tied up for a week just for laughs and then you can walk home butt naked. Nerf the scr, its actually easiest mode, I run this with my proto amarr assault with 3 complex damage mods, its more lol than the ar, at least the ar kicks a bit. Come at me gimp. The AR is laser accurate until you continuously fire it for more then 30 shots.
abarkrishna warravens 134	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:30:00 - [18] - Quote Welcome to battleCOD 514. every gun except the one I use is OP No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1192	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:30:00 - [19] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: The ASCR definitely needs a nerf. Anyone who says "Bu- but Knight, it hawd to aim " Will get a slap from me personally. If its hard to aim, half the damn people using it wouldn't be able to blindfire with the damn thing. Needs to overheat, at around half to three quarters of it's magazine. I always aim with it unless i'm in CQC. Also the AR is still better then the AScR. I have to burst fire just to get the damn thing to hit something. "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1586	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:32:00 - [20] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Currently looking up your IP address so I can call your ISP to get your address to punch you in the face. You know, I might just join in, you can come to my door and punch me, then I'll **** you with no lube and keep you tied up for a week just for laughs and then you can walk home butt naked. Nerf the scr, its actually easiest mode, I run this with my proto amarr assault with 3 complex damage mods, its more lol than the ar, at least the ar kicks a bit. Come at me gimp. The AR is laser accurate until you continuously fire it for more then 30 shots. Yeah tell me something I don't know, I'm just encouraging gimp boy to come to mine for good times, he'll enjoy waddling home like a penguin. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.

Seigfried Warheit 70	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:32:00 - [21] - Quote Its only does 100+ when prof is 5 and stacked with damage mods...but what is the difference between what everyone else does with the Proto AR? I blink and Im dead from both but with the scram its a bit harder to go on a killing spree as with the ar just hold the R1 and your good to go. Just wait for the new rifles to come out for even more QQing! I suggest bringing a dam buckets wont do it.
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 443	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:33:00 - [22] - Quote I just want some adive, please, in all seriousness. how is a game where 1 person does 35hp per shot and where the other does 100dmg pers hot ever going to surirve? I QQ because I care. I don't wantr to log on and get annihilated just because the other person can use auto-aim and down me 3x faster than I can just because of mods and what gun they're using. if everybody is on a level playing field then it comes down to skill, if you mess up , it's your fault. a game should never be based around who ha the most HP or more so lately, who deals the mos damage it should revolve around who has the bs tactical awareness, the best aim and the quickest reactions. I took a break and of course I can't expct it to change, no patch has been issued, but which version partch will be the matchmaing patch? 1.7 isn't going to do much You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 443	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:34:00 - [23] - Quote Seigfried Warheit wrote: Its only does 100+ when prof is 5 and stacked with damage mods...but what is the difference between what everyone else does with the Proto AR? I blink and Im dead from both but with the scram its a bit harder to go on a killing spree as with the ar just hold the R1 and your good to go. Just wait for the new rifles to come out for even more QQing! I suggest bringing a dam buckets wont do it. i will spec into combat rifle cos of the armour bonus but will only have 500k SP saved so not sure where that's going to get me. You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
Kane Fyea 2332	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:34:00 - [24] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Compared to the Duvolle it's balanced. Plus you need the Amarr Assault suit for it to be truly overpowered. Without 2 complex damage mods besides using an Imperial, the gun is garbage compared to my toxin AR. I've only got 2x enhanced armour and 2x enahcned damage mods on my SCR alt. if my 12m SP main gets 2.3 KDR yet my 2m SP SCR alt can get 10.0 KDR with a SCR then something is wrong. What suit and weapon do you use on your main.
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1284	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:37:00 - [25] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Currently looking up your IP address so I can call your ISP to get your address to punch you in the face. Forgive the guy, he just went a game against little old solo me, now i think it was the one i went 33/3 and not the 67/3 (they had a team, didnt really help) right after ...didnt check... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 443	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:38:00 - [26] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Currently looking up your IP address so I can call your ISP to get your address to punch you in the face. Forgive the guy, he just went a game against little old solo me, now i think it was the one i went 33/3 and not the 67/3 (they had a team, didnt really help) right after ...didnt check... Hey I thin I went 33-3 not you nah it's a culmination bro ive used the SCR and put up the same score as you on a 3M alt ive also been on the reviving end being drunk doesnt help lool You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 451	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:39:00 - [27] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Compared to the Duvolle it's balanced. Plus you need the Amarr Assault suit for it to be truly overpowered. Without 2 complex damage mods besides using an Imperial, the gun is garbage compared to my toxin AR. I've only got 2x enhanced armour and 2x enahcned damage mods on my SCR alt. if my 12m SP main gets 2.3 KDR yet my 2m SP SCR alt can get 10.0 KDR with a SCR then something is wrong. What suit and weapon do you use on your main. a logi where I die, or 1500HP heavy with duvolle which gets CHEWED by SCR. again, my 3M SP SCR alt performs 1000x times better You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
Jammeh McJam Robbing The Hood Public Disorder. 53	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:40:00 - [28] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: gained about 420k passive SP through not playing thi sgame. play it for 10 minutes and realise why, sorry to play the broken record and then sing to the choir but every. single. game. is a ******* proto-stomp. there's no balance, no variety. what patch is going to bring balance and stop guns doing 3x the damage that other guns do@/? new players gauranteed are running out of ISK to the point where they can't play the game anymore. The problem is the aim assist eliminating most skill involved "We may be small and disorganized, but we're still gonna rape you" - Intergalactic Super Friends
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 451	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:41:00 - [29] - Quote First game I went 19-3 with Duvolle, next 2 or 3 games it's the same ish, proto-stomped ino the ground, swuads VS randoms red objectives all game, not a blip off the MCC shield. maybe Ill have 1m passive SP when balance patch comes, but when? You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 451	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:42:00 - [30] - Quote Jammeh McJam wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: gained about 420k passive SP through not playing thi sgame. play it for 10 minutes and realise why, sorry to play the broken record and then sing to the choir but every. single. game. is a ******* proto-stomp. there's no balance, no variety. what patch is going to bring balance and stop guns doing 3x the damage that other guns do@/? new players gauranteed are running out of ISK to the point where they can't play the game anymore. The problem is the aim assist eliminating most skill involved yeh thgat's my ISH. I been playing BF3 and if you don't shoot first the flinch will kill you, 5.8 KDr on BF3, go negative in DUST, see? si? k? que? You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal

abarkrishna warravens 135	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:42:00 - [31] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: I just want some adive, please, in all seriousness. how is a game where 1 person does 35hp per shot and where the other does 100dmg pers hot ever going to surirve? I QQ because I care. I don't wantr to log on and get annihilated just because the other person can use auto-aim and down me 3x faster than I can just because of mods and what gun they're using. if everybody is on a level playing field then it comes down to skill, if you mess up , it's your fault. a game should never be based around who ha the most HP or more so lately, who deals the mos damage it should revolve around who has the bs tactical awareness, the best aim and the quickest reactions. I took a break and of course I can't expct it to change, no patch has been issued, but which version partch will be the matchmaing patch? 1.7 isn't going to do much Damage per shot is not relevant. A mass driver does 200 HP+ dmg a shot. That does not mean squat. You have to find the DPS The scrambler rifle would be balanced witha very slight nerf to RATE OF FIRE. It will still do the 100 HP damage per shot but have less shots per second thereby reducing DPS without having to change anything to do with damage. That being said CCP is stupid for Balancing all guns off of a ridiculously OP AR right from the beginning. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1586	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:44:00 - [32] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Compared to the Duvolle it's balanced. Plus you need the Amarr Assault suit for it to be truly overpowered. Without 2 complex damage mods besides using an Imperial, the gun is garbage compared to my toxin AR. I've only got 2x enhanced armour and 2x enahcned damage mods on my SCR alt. if my 12m SP main gets 2.3 KDR yet my 2m SP SCR alt can get 10.0 KDR with a SCR then something is wrong. What suit and weapon do you use on your main. a logi where I die, or 1500HP heavy with duvolle which gets CHEWED by SCR. again, my 3M SP SCR alt performs 1000x times better I don't think a lot of the people who main thing in scr have enough sp to realise any of that, I can ADV/proto everything in the game across 3 chars, easiest mode is my proto amarr assault with scr, no matter what the enemies wearing its easy. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 451	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:44:00 - [33] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Currently looking up your IP address so I can call your ISP to get your address to punch you in the face. Forgive the guy, he just went a game against little old solo me, now i think it was the one i went 33/3 and not the 67/3 (they had a team, didnt really help) right after ...didnt check... you're very good of course I won't deny that but you have to admit that doing 3x the damage somebody else does is not balanced. I want people to be on an even playing field not for m benefit but for the new people putting up DUST who are instantly putting it down, I want them to stick around, even though you can't expect MMOFPS to have anytig but a steep learning cuve that much is expcted/ You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
taxi bastard Minor Trueblood 46	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:44:00 - [34] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: The ASCR definitely needs a nerf. Anyone who says "Bu- but Knight, it hawd to aim " Will get a slap from me personally. If its hard to aim, half the damn people using it wouldn't be able to blindfire with the damn thing. Needs to overheat, at around half to three quarters of it's magazine. gek does slightly more DPS than the ASCR @ 8k isk less cost and is a lot easier to fit. with the extra CPU and PG you can get better damage mods or tank. the ASCR has more ammo per clip slower ROF and larger damage per shot. the gek has less recoil. the gek is more affective at range than the ASCR I find personally even though it should be worse. ASCR is better at killing shields than the AR but worse at armour. hipfire is the same for both weapons. at proto level I believe the recoil is a lot less, but the rest of the comparisons are the same bar price where the duevalle is 17k cheaper. I only use it because its not an AR - fitting it is a *****
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1063	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:48:00 - [35] - Quote how about u htfu My PS3 is dusty ._. Level 1 Forum Warrior
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1287	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:50:00 - [36] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Jammeh McJam wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: gained about 420k passive SP through not playing thi sgame. play it for 10 minutes and realise why, sorry to play the broken record and then sing to the choir but every. single. game. is a ******* proto-stomp. there's no balance, no variety. what patch is going to bring balance and stop guns doing 3x the damage that other guns do@/? new players gauranteed are running out of ISK to the point where they can't play the game anymore. The problem is the aim assist eliminating most skill involved yeh thgat's my ISH. I been playing BF3 and if you don't shoot first the flinch will kill you, 5.8 KDr on BF3, go negative in DUST, see? si? k? que? I do the same kind of scores regardless of the FPS game i play, ive been a SCR user since day one they came out, not gonna change it just because they happened to be any good in the hands of someone that can aim, and by aim i mean i land 90% of my shots in normal FPS games, here its gonna be 60% or so ....due to the crappy KBM controls.. I mostly play Templar BPO these days with no damage mods, but you guys had 13ear and Zaria on your side, so when i see a team or equal level players, i crack out the good stuff...any less and i am very very dead against those guys... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 3558	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:52:00 - [37] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: The ASCR definitely needs a nerf. Anyone who says "Bu- but Knight, it hawd to aim " Will get a slap from me personally. If its hard to aim, half the damn people using it wouldn't be able to blindfire with the damn thing. Needs to overheat, at around half to three quarters of it's magazine. I always aim with it unless i'm in CQC. Also the AR is still better then the AScR. Doesn't make the ASCR balanced though. Forum Prison Escapee Yes, 1.7 is going to suck. Proto Min Logi here I come! T_T
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1586	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:54:00 - [38] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Jammeh McJam wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: gained about 420k passive SP through not playing thi sgame. play it for 10 minutes and realise why, sorry to play the broken record and then sing to the choir but every. single. game. is a ******* proto-stomp. there's no balance, no variety. what patch is going to bring balance and stop guns doing 3x the damage that other guns do@/? new players gauranteed are running out of ISK to the point where they can't play the game anymore. The problem is the aim assist eliminating most skill involved yeh thgat's my ISH. I been playing BF3 and if you don't shoot first the flinch will kill you, 5.8 KDr on BF3, go negative in DUST, see? si? k? que? I do the same kind of scores regardless of the FPS game i play, ive been a SCR user since day one they came out, not gonna change it just because they happened to be any good in the hands of someone that can aim, and by aim i mean i land 90% of my shots in normal FPS games, here its gonna be 60% or so ....due to the crappy KBM controls.. I mostly play Templar BPO these days with no damage mods, but you guys had 13ear and Zaria on your side, so when i see a team or equal level players, i crack out the good stuff...any less and i am very very dead against those guys... As a computer fps vet I say damn straight you hit 90% of your shots! Do you want the game to play itself for you? I'm joking Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 451	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:57:00 - [39] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Jammeh McJam wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: gained about 420k passive SP through not playing thi sgame. play it for 10 minutes and realise why, sorry to play the broken record and then sing to the choir but every. single. game. is a ******* proto-stomp. there's no balance, no variety. what patch is going to bring balance and stop guns doing 3x the damage that other guns do@/? new players gauranteed are running out of ISK to the point where they can't play the game anymore. The problem is the aim assist eliminating most skill involved yeh thgat's my ISH. I been playing BF3 and if you don't shoot first the flinch will kill you, 5.8 KDr on BF3, go negative in DUST, see? si? k? que? I do the same kind of scores regardless of the FPS game i play, ive been a SCR user since day one they came out, not gonna change it just because they happened to be any good in the hands of someone that can aim, and by aim i mean i land 90% of my shots in normal FPS games, here its gonna be 60% or so ....due to the crappy KBM controls.. I mostly play Templar BPO these days with no damage mods, but you guys had 13ear and Zaria on your side, so when i see a team or equal level players, i crack out the good stuff...any less and i am very very dead against those guys... yeh but you hid on that same roof the whole game I don't thnk those guys went 1v1 with you at all, you just killed whoever happened to be at the objective. You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
Darth-Carbonite GIO Dust2Dust. Top Men. 270	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:58:00 - [40] - Quote Trolling Skill leveled up! Congrats OP Preeminent Scrambler Rifle User & Dropship Enthusiast

CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 454	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:59:00 - [41] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Jammeh McJam wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: gained about 420k passive SP through not playing thi sgame. play it for 10 minutes and realise why, sorry to play the broken record and then sing to the choir but every. single. game. is a ******* proto-stomp. there's no balance, no variety. what patch is going to bring balance and stop guns doing 3x the damage that other guns do@/? new players gauranteed are running out of ISK to the point where they can't play the game anymore. The problem is the aim assist eliminating most skill involved yeh thgat's my ISH. I been playing BF3 and if you don't shoot first the flinch will kill you, 5.8 KDr on BF3, go negative in DUST, see? si? k? que? I do the same kind of scores regardless of the FPS game i play, ive been a SCR user since day one they came out, not gonna change it just because they happened to be any good in the hands of someone that can aim, and by aim i mean i land 90% of my shots in normal FPS games, here its gonna be 60% or so ....due to the crappy KBM controls.. I mostly play Templar BPO these days with no damage mods, but you guys had 13ear and Zaria on your side, so when i see a team or equal level players, i crack out the good stuff...any less and i am very very dead against those guys... of course you can put up thr same scores if you're the guy on top with the high relative damage output just saying I do well in game where im on an even playing field but have somebody do 3x my damage and i stand no chance. You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1288	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:59:00 - [42] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Currently looking up your IP address so I can call your ISP to get your address to punch you in the face. Forgive the guy, he just went a game against little old solo me, now i think it was the one i went 33/3 and not the 67/3 (they had a team, didnt really help) right after ...didnt check... you're very good of course I won't deny that but you have to admit that doing 3x the damage somebody else does is not balanced. I want people to be on an even playing field not for m benefit but for the new people putting up DUST who are instantly putting it down, I want them to stick around, even though you can't expect MMOFPS to have anytig but a steep learning cuve that much is expcted/ Thats why i mostly run my Templar BPO SCR with no damage mods against normal people, but you guys had 13ear & Zaria on your team and i was getting waxed off with the squirt gun setup, they are not really normal. So since ive been running the BPO SCR ive gotten better, so when you then swap to the 3x damage modded Imperial and use it like the BPO squirt gun, stuff dies really fast. However, CCP shouldnt put keeping players in the game up to the players, i quite agree, all the new players should not be put into the grinder this fast. As a note: just check out the Accuracy Movie in my Sig, the gun i use there has a 1.5s delay between shots, so TTK is 1.5s, all the other guns people use against me are 0.6-0.75s TTK weapons, its not the weapon damage, nor the speed, its Accuracy that kills. Quote: of course you can put up thr same scores if you're the guy on top with the high relative damage output just saying I do well in game where im on an even playing field but have somebody do 3x my damage and i stand no chance. Theres no diffrence between me using the SCR and the ASCR, with the ASCR its even easier going though big wades of opponents, but ive never liked Full Auto Weapons. Quote: yeh but you hid on that same roof the whole game I don't thnk those guys went 1v1 with you at all, you just killed whoever happened to be at the objective. Ive been pretty much everywhere that match, but i did have a good overview near the end and killed around 7-8 that came up on me from behind. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 454	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:02:00 - [43] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Trolling Skill leveled up! Congrats OP +1 Beer You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 454	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:04:00 - [44] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Currently looking up your IP address so I can call your ISP to get your address to punch you in the face. Forgive the guy, he just went a game against little old solo me, now i think it was the one i went 33/3 and not the 67/3 (they had a team, didnt really help) right after ...didnt check... you're very good of course I won't deny that but you have to admit that doing 3x the damage somebody else does is not balanced. I want people to be on an even playing field not for m benefit but for the new people putting up DUST who are instantly putting it down, I want them to stick around, even though you can't expect MMOFPS to have anytig but a steep learning cuve that much is expcted/ Thats why i mostly run my Templar BPO SCR with no damage mods against normal people, but you guys had 13ear & Zaria on your team and i was getting waxed off with the squirt gun setup, they are not really normal. So since ive been running the BPO SCR ive gotten better, so when you then swap to the 3x damage modded Imperial and use it like the BPO squirt gun, stuff dies really fast. However, CCP shouldnt put keeping players in the game up to the players, i quite agree, all the new players should not be put into the grinder this fast. As a note: just check out the Accuracy Movie in my Sig, the gun i use there has a 1.5s delay between shots, so TTK is 1.5s, all the other guns people use against me are 0.6-0.75s TTK weapons, its not the weapon damage, nor the speed, its Accuracy that kills. Quote: of course you can put up thr same scores if you're the guy on top with the high relative damage output just saying I do well in game where im on an even playing field but have somebody do 3x my damage and i stand no chance. Theres no diffrence between me using the SCR and the ASCR, with the ASCR its even easier going though big wades of opponents, but ive never liked Full Auto Weapons. not comparing SCRs just comparing AR vs SCR, 40hp vs 100hp or whatever it is, kills twice as fast. the maths is always in the favour of whoever does the most dmaage whereas it should be whoever shoots first and shoots most accurately. i jsut dont see why CCP thought that 75hp base damage for the scrmabler rifle was a good idea. You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
Aisha Ctarl 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 2011	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:07:00 - [45] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Currently looking up your IP address so I can call your ISP to get your address to punch you in the face. go on and do it then, keep playing a game where a SCR does over 1200+dmg in 1 second. the game is dying and ridiculous. play BF3 and get 2.0 KDR average every game best being 5.8, play DUST and can't even go positive besides one stopmp 19-3 game, put people on a level playing field then we'll see some skill. just asking what patch is going to bring balance. back to hibernation for me. Later bro, that's one less T_T for the forums. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 454	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:10:00 - [46] - Quote at the end of the day players are always going to feel like they're at a disavantage until some kdinf of balance is introduced. imagine an elite veteran FPS M+KB player coing into DUST, do you think they're going to destroy with a militia ar VS prof v 3x or 5x complex dmage mod imperial SCR? no they're not, they're going to quit and thin, what the hell is this? whaty am i playing? i like o play a game where, if i die, it's my fauly for not being good. not becuase th eother has a better gun. if you grind for a good gun fair enough but you should only ever come up against people of your weapon-tier and that's where im-baalnce lies. in its current state DUST is going to be nothing more than people crapping on other players. please tell me, how would the est PC FPS players whove been playing for 20 years do against soebody who can deal 1000+ hjp in less than a second? gauranteed the best FP players in the world will get destroyed in this game using a starter fit, how is that any good? people who could go 50-0 on a level playing field going negative? how about we get fatility or some top counter stirke players on thi sgame and get their opinion?? You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
Aisha Ctarl 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 2012	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:10:00 - [47] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Currently looking up your IP address so I can call your ISP to get your address to punch you in the face. You know, I might just join in, you can come to my door and punch me, then I'll **** you with no lube and keep you tied up for a week just for laughs and then you can walk home butt naked. Nerf the scr, its actually easiest mode, I run this with my proto amarr assault with 3 complex damage mods, its more lol than the ar, at least the ar kicks a bit. Come at me gimp. The AR is laser accurate until you continuously fire it for more then 30 shots. Yeah tell me something I don't know, I'm just encouraging gimp boy to come to mine for good times, he'll enjoy waddling home like a penguin. Looking you up too then bro, keep on abusing your God mode AR while I'm it though. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 454	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:13:00 - [48] - Quote Somebody who has contacts get the best PC FPS players in the world who would destorya any of you 100 times over to play DUST and get their opinion. that's what gong to decie it, not us drunkenly thrading on this thread. really my opnion doesn't matter much because i am the epitmoy of CASUAL GAMER i am as casual as it gets. You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 624	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:13:00 - [49] - Quote Stop trying to balance with Pubs, play PC and come back to me. Stop trying to balance a weapon to kill Dumb shield tankers, STD suits and MLT suits slower. The ScR is not god mode, just learn to counter it; it's not that hard The Sinwarden
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 624	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:16:00 - [50] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: really my opnion doesn't matter much because i am the epitmoy of CASUAL GAMER i am as casual as it gets. Case in point. The Sinwarden

TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1586	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:22:00 - [51] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Currently looking up your IP address so I can call your ISP to get your address to punch you in the face. You know, I might just join in, you can come to my door and punch me, then I'll **** you with no lube and keep you tied up for a week just for laughs and then you can walk home butt naked. Nerf the scr, its actually easiest mode, I run this with my proto amarr assault with 3 complex damage mods, its more lol than the ar, at least the ar kicks a bit. Come at me gimp. The AR is laser accurate until you continuously fire it for more then 30 shots. Yeah tell me something I don't know, I'm just encouraging gimp boy to come to mine for good times, he'll enjoy waddling home like a penguin. Looking you up too then bro, keep on abusing your God mode AR while I'm it though. I will until the combat rifle comes, and in the past 2 days I have been running a fake logi with the three complex damage mod fit on my proto amarr logi, ar and scr are both lol mate. Ps, the tac ar is major lol with that setup as well, I can still stack 746 ish armour with 3 complex damage mods, scanner, hives and rep tool lol. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Spectre-M The Generals General Tso's Alliance 128	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:28:00 - [52] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: abarkrishna wrote: How do you find a scrambler rifle user on the forums? ^^^^ just look on the roof, or un der a rock you will find at least one or 7. SCR is fun but there's no balance in doing 100+ hp per bullet whilst the guy shooting at you only does 40. Please look up the damage and profile adjustment before posting false numbers. Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist Minnmatar in Amarr armor I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 228	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:33:00 - [53] - Quote To any one saying nerf the scr just look at the pg/CPU I'm not going yo even say my point just look it up Christ is lord Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now. Fear is a choice, I choose not to let it control me.
ThePlayerkyle13 PlayerArmy Industries 20	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:51:00 - [54] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Currently looking up your IP address so I can call your ISP to get your address to punch you in the face. go on and do it then, keep playing a game where a SCR does over 1200+dmg in 1 second. the game is dying and ridiculous. play BF3 and get 2.0 KDR average every game best being 5.8, play DUST and can't even go positive besides one stopmp 19-3 game, put people on a level playing field then we'll see some skill. just asking what patch is going to bring balance. back to hibernation for me. Your Calculations aren't correct a Proto ScR does 79.2 damage but add its Skill to lvl 5 which is 10% & the Calculations are 91.08 damage. But if you want to add Damage mods then it'll be an OP gun...
Samantha Hunyz Legions of Infinite Dominion 45	Posted - 2013.12.07 00:05:00 - [55] - Quote DPS across all tiers and weapons needs to be normalized. In many MMORPG's this has always been done. A fast hitting weapon does less damage than a slow hitting one. At the end of the day, their DPS at the same skill level are the same. From this, TTK can easily be controlled as well. Some weapons do need special consideration. For starters, how do we balance sidearm? Do we let them have the same TTK as main weapons, or should their time be 2/3 or half? What about specialized weapons like the NK and the shotgun? Expecting them to have the same dps as their counterparts would be silly. They should get some more punch for the high risk vs reward. The last issue with weapons is the ranges they were designed to perform at and how they perform outside of them. I think cqc weapons have it right, so let's skip over them. The laser is a good starting point. In its preferred range it is great, but under or over, it is simply not. CCP needs to take that formula and apply to many of the weapons, especially the AR and SR. Side note: TTK DPS should be based on the tier of the weapon being placed with the same tier suit. Balance should also be around the weapon, and should eliminate the proficiency skill from the game. Damage mods need to be reduced, limited, or removed, so that dps and TTK can be easily controlled. Obviously leaving it up to use player's has made DPS /TTK excessively lopsided. When I look down my scope, all I see are dead people.
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1289	Posted - 2013.12.07 00:26:00 - [56] - Quote Quote: imagine an elite veteran FPS M+KB player coing into DUST Add to that formula 27m SP and you got me, started when Wolfenstein 3D came out on my 286 20 mhz pc 20 years ago.. I don't see a whole lot of people, except a select few do very good with the SCR, they get average scores like if they used a Duvolle .... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
RED FARM Punishers of Uranus 7	Posted - 2013.12.07 00:38:00 - [57] - Quote What makes this gameis just that. It takes literally months to get your clone 's skills up...not 2 weeks like COD and alike. So, when you start your drop are cheap and prior to getting about 8m skill points (unles you spend alot on tanks and aircraft) you should be rich. The play style to start is hit and round plus lots of dying. Then you slowly moe to Advanced suits and you burn your bank account. It takes months to recognize what a Proto suit looks like. Then by the time you notice you are dead. So, readjust tactics. Storming in just hets you dead.
Solitar Greywatch D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 4	Posted - 2013.12.07 00:40:00 - [58] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: ^ Dibs on 2nd punch. Dibs on the dropkick
TunRa RETR0 PR0 GAMERS INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 239	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:36:00 - [59] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: The ASCR definitely needs a nerf. Anyone who says "Bu- but Knight, it hawd to aim " Will get a slap from me personally. If its hard to aim, half the damn people using it wouldn't be able to blindfire with the damn thing. Needs to overheat, at around half to three quarters of it's magazine. After they nerf your AR Is this where I write the signature? No?
Zaria Min Deir Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 335	Posted - 2013.12.07 05:30:00 - [60] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Thats why i mostly run my Templar BPO SCR with no damage mods against normal people, but you guys had 13ear & Zaria on your team and i was getting waxed off with the squirt gun setup, they are not really normal. As if, your Templar SCR has melted me plenty of times. Have you considered installing the improved keyboard? "Go Go Power Rangers!"

Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 802	Posted - 2013.12.07 06:23:00 - [61] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: I just want some adive, please, in all seriousness. how is a game where 1 person does 35hp per shot and where the other does 100dmg pers hot ever going to surirve? I QQ because I care. I don't wantr to log on and get annihilated just because the other person can use auto-aim and down me 3x faster than I can just because of mods and what gun they're using. if everybody is on a level playing field then it comes down to skill, if you mess up , it's your fault. a game should never be based around who ha the most HP or more so lately, who deals the mos damage it should revolve around who has the bs tactical awareness, the best aim and the quickest reactions. I took a break and of course I can't expct it to change, no patch has been issued, but which version partch will be the matchmaing patch? 1.7 isn't going to do much You should stay in retirement, since your opinion is obviously biased and since you can't contribute anything but garbage. The SCR does 100 damage per shot? Please show me that gun because it MUST be a new Officer SCR. If you're going to argue the fact, then at least base it in some truth. You say you QQ because you care? I say you QQ because you enjoy doing so. PurificationGäó It's what I do.
Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 138	Posted - 2013.12.07 06:26:00 - [62] - Quote I said All this BS awhile ago, the issue is TTK. A fully specced AR kills just as fast as a fully specced SCR, if one is to be toned down the other must as well. Dedicated redline sniper, tower forger, nade spammer, protostomper, and mass driver.
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 109	Posted - 2013.12.07 06:28:00 - [63] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: The ASCR definitely needs a nerf. Anyone who says "Bu- but Knight, it hawd to aim " Will get a slap from me personally. If its hard to aim, half the damn people using it wouldn't be able to blindfire with the damn thing. Needs to overheat, at around half to three quarters of it's magazine. If fired fully automatic it needs to overheat at half, if not 25% of its mag. Controlled fire or nothing. Its dps is high enough for people to deal with it honestly. Dedicated scout. Player bodyguard Pistol supremacy.
hackerzilla Defenders of the Helghast Dream 577	Posted - 2013.12.07 06:32:00 - [64] - Quote +1 Gonna have to agree. Something needs to happen with the gross negligence to the horrible weapon/suit balance. How will weapons be balanced?- Tiercide?, High Skill High Reward, low skill low reward? How will heavies and scouts be balanced?- Reduction of Aim assist and auto aim? Stealth buff for scouts, HMG buff for heavies, more heavy racial suits? Especially since a basic scrambler can 5 or 6 shot a lot of suits (2 or 3 shot many scouts), and 2 or 3 shot a lot of suits (besides proto mediums and heavies) with a prof V Imperial, and don't even mention a Ammar assault lvl V, with damage mods. Host of Zilla's Games! The best defense in not a good offense, it's a good defense.
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 2033	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:05:00 - [65] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: gained about 420k passive SP through not playing thi sgame. play it for 10 minutes and realise why, sorry to play the broken record and then sing to the choir but every. single. game. is a ******* proto-stomp. there's no balance, no variety. what patch is going to bring balance and stop guns doing 3x the damage that other guns do@/? new players gauranteed are running out of ISK to the point where they can't play the game anymore. Scum. I hope the empress discards you shield cowards. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 349	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:19:00 - [66] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: gained about 420k passive SP through not playing thi sgame. play it for 10 minutes and realise why, sorry to play the broken record and then sing to the choir but every. single. game. is a ******* proto-stomp. there's no balance, no variety. what patch is going to bring balance and stop guns doing 3x the damage that other guns do@/? new players gauranteed are running out of ISK to the point where they can't play the game anymore. Scum. I hope the empress discards you shield cowards. Wow.... You realize that the shield tankers are your allies, right? The Matari are speed tankers, or, at least, they're supposed to be. Names of playstyles
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1291	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:21:00 - [67] - Quote Zaria Min Deir wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Thats why i mostly run my Templar BPO SCR with no damage mods against normal people, but you guys had 13ear & Zaria on your team and i was getting waxed off with the squirt gun setup, they are not really normal. As if, your Templar SCR has melted me plenty of times. Sowwy :/ .....i keep mixing up the setting of Melt Faces with Shoot Rainbows, this 2 button setup on this gun is is really confusing :) Quote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: really my opnion doesn't matter much because i am the epitmoy of CASUAL GAMER i am as casual as it gets. Whats the next step ? have CCP create a piece of code that when it detects a none casual player it starts to try and throw of his aim and any force that the pro guy is applying is adding in additional aiming on the casuals side ? Oh wait ....nvm we already have that here, its called our KBM controls in this game .... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 2036	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:30:00 - [68] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: gained about 420k passive SP through not playing thi sgame. play it for 10 minutes and realise why, sorry to play the broken record and then sing to the choir but every. single. game. is a ******* proto-stomp. there's no balance, no variety. what patch is going to bring balance and stop guns doing 3x the damage that other guns do@/? new players gauranteed are running out of ISK to the point where they can't play the game anymore. Scum. I hope the empress discards you shield cowards. Wow.... You realize that the shield tankers are your allies, right? The Matari are speed tankers, or, at least, they're supposed to be. No one is our equal, you are nothing but minions to us. Your commanders might use the word ally, but we do not consider ourselves equal. We can not respect any race, even our own, who would hide behind a shield. Our shield is our faith, our weapon is the heavenly light Amarr has bestowed upon us. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 349	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:35:00 - [69] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: gained about 420k passive SP through not playing thi sgame. play it for 10 minutes and realise why, sorry to play the broken record and then sing to the choir but every. single. game. is a ******* proto-stomp. there's no balance, no variety. what patch is going to bring balance and stop guns doing 3x the damage that other guns do@/? new players gauranteed are running out of ISK to the point where they can't play the game anymore. Scum. I hope the empress discards you shield cowards. Wow.... You realize that the shield tankers are your allies, right? The Matari are speed tankers, or, at least, they're supposed to be. No one is our equal, you are nothing but minions to us. Your commanders might use the word ally, but we do not consider ourselves equal. We can not respect any race, even our own, who would hide behind a shield. Our shield is our faith, our weapon is the heavenly light Amarr has bestowed upon us. And this is why I can't understand you. We have a common enemy in the Matari and Gallente, yet you insist on your crusade. I will never convert, and, although I commend your enthusiasm, you need to remember, without us, the most powerful military (yes, I said it, we held off the Gallente with lesser numbers, you lost to the Matari who also had lesser numbers, though they also had the element of surprise. We did not.) you would already have been conquered long ago. We are more than your equals, we are your betters. Names of playstyles
True Adamance Scions of Athra 4600	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:38:00 - [70] - Quote The Lannisters don't speak for the empire you do realise.... Also we did not lose the Matari....they struck us with Gallentea help after the battle of Vak Akioth, a time where our military might was shaken after combat with the Jove. I will have you remember the Empress herself leading the defensive fleets against the Elder Fleet halting it personally in a single sweeping display of power..... I do not dispute the Caldari have a mighty military.....however you people lack a certain inspiration present the in the other empires armed forces. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"

Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 374	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:40:00 - [71] - Quote increase the hipfire spread on the regular variant ,done A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 350	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:40:00 - [72] - Quote True Adamance wrote: The Lannisters don't speak for the empire you do realise.... Yes, my friend, I do. However, this one was annoying, I was pointing out some flaws in her reasoning. Nothing more. Names of playstyles
True Adamance Scions of Athra 4600	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:42:00 - [73] - Quote True Adamance wrote: The Lannisters don't speak for the empire you do realise.... Also we did not lose the Matari....they struck us with Gallentea help after the battle of Vak Akioth, a time where our military might was shaken after combat with the Jove. I will have you remember the Empress herself leading the defensive fleets against the Elder Fleet halting it personally in a single sweeping display of power..... I do not dispute the Caldari have a mighty military.....however you people lack a certain inspiration present the in the other empires armed forces. EDITED "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 351	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:49:00 - [74] - Quote True Adamance wrote: The Lannisters don't speak for the empire you do realise.... Also we did not lose the Matari....they struck us with Gallentea help after the battle of Vak Akioth, a time where our military might was shaken after combat with the Jove. I will have you remember the Empress herself leading the defensive fleets against the Elder Fleet halting it personally in a single sweeping display of power..... I do not dispute the Caldari have a mighty military.....however you people lack a certain inspiration present the in the other empires armed forces. What we lack in inspiration, my friend, we make up for in both initiative and utilitarianism. We are the smallest of the 4 empires, in terms of military numbers, yet our military is the strongest. If our numbers were equal to the others, we would not be losing this war, that is the only reason the Gallente are winning. I do not doubt that your military is powerful, I have fought with your people many times. However, we Caldari had neither advantage of surprise, nor numbers, nor even superior tech when we rose against the Gallente, we had no help. The Matari had only one of those, yet your people failed. Again, this might never have happened if your people had the foresight and initiative of the Caldari, yet your leaders didn't and it did. Names of playstyles
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1291	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:51:00 - [75] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: increase the hipfire spread on the regular variant ,done The SCR is a multi purpose weapon, the TAC is a variant in a line of 4 guns... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
True Adamance Scions of Athra 4603	Posted - 2013.12.07 10:02:00 - [76] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: The Lannisters don't speak for the empire you do realise.... Also we did not lose the Matari....they struck us with Gallentea help after the battle of Vak Akioth, a time where our military might was shaken after combat with the Jove. I will have you remember the Empress herself leading the defensive fleets against the Elder Fleet halting it personally in a single sweeping display of power..... I do not dispute the Caldari have a mighty military.....however you people lack a certain inspiration present the in the other empires armed forces. What we lack in inspiration, my friend, we make up for in both initiative and utilitarianism. We are the smallest of the 4 empires, in terms of military numbers, yet our military is the strongest. If our numbers were equal to the others, we would not be losing this war, that is the only reason the Gallente are winning. I do not doubt that your military is powerful, I have fought with your people many times. However, we Caldari had neither advantage of surprise, nor numbers, nor even superior tech when we rose against the Gallente, we had no help. The Matari had only one of those, yet your people failed. Again, this might never have happened if your people had the foresight and initiative of the Caldari, yet your leaders didn't and it did. That last comment is incendiary and unbecoming. You fail to understand the scope of the Jovian destruction wrought on our fleets, and the destruction we wrought on the Elder Fleet. Speaking of which I wouldn't make such comments considering the fate of the last leader of the Caldari State, who betrayed his people, sided with a known terrorist organisation, and held his people hostage..... "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 351	Posted - 2013.12.07 10:05:00 - [77] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: The Lannisters don't speak for the empire you do realise.... Also we did not lose the Matari....they struck us with Gallentea help after the battle of Vak Akioth, a time where our military might was shaken after combat with the Jove. I will have you remember the Empress herself leading the defensive fleets against the Elder Fleet halting it personally in a single sweeping display of power..... I do not dispute the Caldari have a mighty military.....however you people lack a certain inspiration present the in the other empires armed forces. What we lack in inspiration, my friend, we make up for in both initiative and utilitarianism. We are the smallest of the 4 empires, in terms of military numbers, yet our military is the strongest. If our numbers were equal to the others, we would not be losing this war, that is the only reason the Gallente are winning. I do not doubt that your military is powerful, I have fought with your people many times. However, we Caldari had neither advantage of surprise, nor numbers, nor even superior tech when we rose against the Gallente, we had no help. The Matari had only one of those, yet your people failed. Again, this might never have happened if your people had the foresight and initiative of the Caldari, yet your leaders didn't and it did. That last comment is incendiary and unbecoming. You fail to understand the scope of the Jovian destruction wrought on our fleets, and the destruction we wrought on the Elder Fleet. Speaking of which I wouldn't make such comments considering the fate of the last leader of the Caldari State, who betrayed his people, sided with a known terrorist organisation, and held his people hostage..... That was after the uprising of the Caldari versus the Gallente, and Tibus Heth got what he deserved. He is a traitor. But the leader that attacked the Jove was hailed as a hero. You don't see the Caldari saying the same about Heth, we actually agree with Ishukone on this one. Without Heth, we might have had peace. But as long as the Amarr try to assimilate cultures that don't want it, your Empire will not. Names of playstyles
True Adamance Scions of Athra 4604	Posted - 2013.12.07 10:11:00 - [78] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: The Lannisters don't speak for the empire you do realise.... Also we did not lose the Matari....they struck us with Gallentea help after the battle of Vak Akioth, a time where our military might was shaken after combat with the Jove. I will have you remember the Empress herself leading the defensive fleets against the Elder Fleet halting it personally in a single sweeping display of power..... I do not dispute the Caldari have a mighty military.....however you people lack a certain inspiration present the in the other empires armed forces. What we lack in inspiration, my friend, we make up for in both initiative and utilitarianism. We are the smallest of the 4 empires, in terms of military numbers, yet our military is the strongest. If our numbers were equal to the others, we would not be losing this war, that is the only reason the Gallente are winning. I do not doubt that your military is powerful, I have fought with your people many times. However, we Caldari had neither advantage of surprise, nor numbers, nor even superior tech when we rose against the Gallente, we had no help. The Matari had only one of those, yet your people failed. Again, this might never have happened if your people had the foresight and initiative of the Caldari, yet your leaders didn't and it did. That last comment is incendiary and unbecoming. You fail to understand the scope of the Jovian destruction wrought on our fleets, and the destruction we wrought on the Elder Fleet. Speaking of which I wouldn't make such comments considering the fate of the last leader of the Caldari State, who betrayed his people, sided with a known terrorist organisation, and held his people hostage..... That was after the uprising of the Caldari versus the Gallente, and Tibus Heth got what he deserved. He is a traitor. But the leader that attacked the Jove was hailed as a hero. You don't see the Caldari saying the same about Heth, we actually agree with Ishukone on this one. Without Heth, we might have had peace. But as long as the Amarr try to assimilate cultures that don't want it, your Empire will not. Indeed I believe his name was Emperor Heideran and he is widely accredited at the Emperor who ushered in the new laws regarding the fair treatment of slaves, as well as being awarded the Aldonis Statue for his peace keeping efforts which today are considered responsible for the relative stability and peace within New Eden. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 351	Posted - 2013.12.07 10:13:00 - [79] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: The Lannisters don't speak for the empire you do realise.... Also we did not lose the Matari....they struck us with Gallentea help after the battle of Vak Akioth, a time where our military might was shaken after combat with the Jove. I will have you remember the Empress herself leading the defensive fleets against the Elder Fleet halting it personally in a single sweeping display of power..... I do not dispute the Caldari have a mighty military.....however you people lack a certain inspiration present the in the other empires armed forces. What we lack in inspiration, my friend, we make up for in both initiative and utilitarianism. We are the smallest of the 4 empires, in terms of military numbers, yet our military is the strongest. If our numbers were equal to the others, we would not be losing this war, that is the only reason the Gallente are winning. I do not doubt that your military is powerful, I have fought with your people many times. However, we Caldari had neither advantage of surprise, nor numbers, nor even superior tech when we rose against the Gallente, we had no help. The Matari had only one of those, yet your people failed. Again, this might never have happened if your people had the foresight and initiative of the Caldari, yet your leaders didn't and it did. That last comment is incendiary and unbecoming. You fail to understand the scope of the Jovian destruction wrought on our fleets, and the destruction we wrought on the Elder Fleet. Speaking of which I wouldn't make such comments considering the fate of the last leader of the Caldari State, who betrayed his people, sided with a known terrorist organisation, and held his people hostage..... That was after the uprising of the Caldari versus the Gallente, and Tibus Heth got what he deserved. He is a traitor. But the leader that attacked the Jove was hailed as a hero. You don't see the Caldari saying the same about Heth, we actually agree with Ishukone on this one. Without Heth, we might have had peace. But as long as the Amarr try to assimilate cultures that don't want it, your Empire will not. Indeed I believe his name was Emperor Heideran and he is widely accredited at the Emperor who ushered in the new laws regarding the fair treatment of slaves, as well as being awarded the Aldonis Statue for his peace keeping efforts which today are considered responsible for the relative stability and peace within New Eden. Yet he nearly led your people to their ruin and lost 2/3 of the Matari in the process. That does not equal a hero to the Caldari. Names of playstyles
Keri Starlight 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 1824	Posted - 2013.12.07 10:16:00 - [80] - Quote The Crambler Rifle might use a bit of rework, especially now that its range is going to be buffed. But it shouldn't be "nerfed into the ground". Keep in mind that Scrambler users are paying a crazy ton fo PG to run that thing, it's the most expensive weapon from this point of view. In my honest opinon, the weapon is too devastating in CQC to be a tactical rifle. I wouldn't necessarily reduce the hipfire accuracy, maybe it could use a slight frequency-falloff damage, similar to the Laser rifle, but much less evident, so that the Scrambler's damage is slightly reduced within 15 meters. Another option to limit the "insta-kill" effect would be to lower the RoF cap a little bit to prevent trigger spamming... (not as much as the Tac AR, it's ridiculously easy to make it jam...) it wouldn't damage tactical gameplay, since charged shots can pretty much melt anything. I don't know, just a bunch of ideas. I feel like the Scrambler will be in a dangerous place in 1.7 after the range buff. People will cry about it even more and it might receive an exaggerated nerf. I love the weapon (even if I don't use it) and I would rather a slight calculated tweak instead of a sudden un-godly nerf. The same goes for the AR, the AR is NOT overpowered, it just needs recoil... It wouldn't affect hipfire, it wouldn't affect 0-30m ADS gunfights. It would just give ranged rifles a reason to exist (burst, tactical, laser rifles). Small tweaks, that's all we need. Let's throw away that Nerf Hammer, for the love of God... 100% Achura "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"

True Adamance Scions of Athra 4605	Posted - 2013.12.07 10:23:00 - [81] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Indeed I believe his name was Emperor Heideran and he is widely accredited at the Emperor who ushered in the new laws regarding the fair treatment of slaves, as well as being awarded the Aldonis Statue for his peace keeping efforts which today are considered responsible for the relative stability and peace within New Eden. Yet he nearly led your people to their ruin and lost 2/3 of the Matari in the process. That does not equal a hero to the Caldari.[/quote] Ah no you mean the False Emperor and Chamberlain Karsoth? Indeed, his rule was an abomination. For their part the Matari were not responsible for their own rebellion, it was orchestrated primarily by outside forces to be, I suspect, used as a weapon against us.....our mutual enemies the Gallente are the only one who would benefit from that..... However there is no point bickering about it since for now we are allies. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 351	Posted - 2013.12.07 10:25:00 - [82] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Indeed I believe his name was Emperor Heideran and he is widely accredited at the Emperor who ushered in the new laws regarding the fair treatment of slaves, as well as being awarded the Aldonis Statue for his peace keeping efforts which today are considered responsible for the relative stability and peace within New Eden. Yet he nearly led your people to their ruin and lost 2/3 of the Matari in the process. That does not equal a hero to the Caldari. Ah no you mean the False Emperor and Chamberlain Karsoth? Indeed, his rule was an abomination. For their part the Matari were not responsible for their own rebellion, it was orchestrated primarily by outside forces to be, I suspect, used as a weapon against us.....our mutual enemies the Gallente are the only one who would benefit from that..... However there is no point bickering about it since for now we are allies. Yes. Let us put down the enemies of the Empire and the State, as one, my friend. Holds out hand. Names of playstyles
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 472	Posted - 2013.12.07 10:29:00 - [83] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: The Crambler Rifle might use a bit of rework, especially now that its range is going to be buffed. But it shouldn't be "nerfed into the ground". Keep in mind that Scrambler users are paying a crazy ton fo PG to run that thing, it's the most expensive weapon from this point of view. In my honest opinon, the weapon is too devastating in CQC to be a tactical rifle. I wouldn't necessarily reduce the hipfire accuracy, maybe it could use a slight frequency-falloff damage, similar to the Laser rifle, but much less evident, so that the Scrambler's damage is slightly reduced within 15 meters. Another option to limit the "insta-kill" effect would be to lower the RoF cap a little bit to prevent trigger spamming... (not as much as the Tac AR, it's ridiculously easy to make it jam...) it wouldn't damage tactical gameplay, since charged shots can pretty much melt anything. I don't know, just a bunch of ideas. I feel like the Scrambler will be in a dangerous place in 1.7 after the range buff. People will cry about it even more and it might receive an exaggerated nerf. I love the weapon (even if I don't use it) and I would rather a slight calculated tweak instead of a sudden un-godly nerf. The same goes for the AR, the AR is NOT overpowered, it just needs recoil... It wouldn't affect hipfire, it wouldn't affect 0-30m ADS gunfights. It would just give ranged rifles a reason to exist (burst, tactical, laser rifles). Small tweaks, that's all we need. Let's throw away that Nerf Hammer, for the love of God... sober me agrees. surprised I'm not banned. somehow i gort like 40-50 likes throughout this debacle, not going to go back and read any of it though! the RoF is what kills it, it makes it a sniper rifle. then there's the people using it as a sniper rifle with the charge shot doing 2x the damage of a PRO sniper rifle as demonstrated in a video of mine which the trolls got to i think it does too much damage per shot in relation to how fast it fires. i also think the SCR beats the fully-auto AR in a gun-fight any day. it makes the TTK even more of a joke. no idea what these 60 day inactivity bonus suits are but I think I'm going to have those, shame I'm going to have wait quite a few patches before they figure out the weapons. I'm just not willing to get shat on anymore, then there's the game where I'll do well but then I'm just making the people I kill feel the same way as I do. at least there's battlefield, it has terrible revival mechanics but every game does. You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
True Adamance Scions of Athra 4606	Posted - 2013.12.07 10:32:00 - [84] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Indeed I believe his name was Emperor Heideran and he is widely accredited at the Emperor who ushered in the new laws regarding the fair treatment of slaves, as well as being awarded the Aldonis Statue for his peace keeping efforts which today are considered responsible for the relative stability and peace within New Eden. Yet he nearly led your people to their ruin and lost 2/3 of the Matari in the process. That does not equal a hero to the Caldari. Ah no you mean the False Emperor and Chamberlain Karsoth? Indeed, his rule was an abomination. For their part the Matari were not responsible for their own rebellion, it was orchestrated primarily by outside forces to be, I suspect, used as a weapon against us.....our mutual enemies the Gallente are the only one who would benefit from that..... However there is no point bickering about it since for now we are allies. Yes. Let us put down the enemies of the Empire and the State, as one, my friend. Holds out hand. (( hehehe)) *Shakes hand "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 352	Posted - 2013.12.07 10:33:00 - [85] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Indeed I believe his name was Emperor Heideran and he is widely accredited at the Emperor who ushered in the new laws regarding the fair treatment of slaves, as well as being awarded the Aldonis Statue for his peace keeping efforts which today are considered responsible for the relative stability and peace within New Eden. Yet he nearly led your people to their ruin and lost 2/3 of the Matari in the process. That does not equal a hero to the Caldari. Ah no you mean the False Emperor and Chamberlain Karsoth? Indeed, his rule was an abomination. For their part the Matari were not responsible for their own rebellion, it was orchestrated primarily by outside forces to be, I suspect, used as a weapon against us.....our mutual enemies the Gallente are the only one who would benefit from that..... However there is no point bickering about it since for now we are allies. Yes. Let us put down the enemies of the Empire and the State, as one, my friend. Holds out hand. (( hehehe)) *Shakes hand ((That was fun, but I gotta go to sleep. Thanks for the debate, Kador. We need to squad up sometime.) Names of playstyles
FAKIR REDETTa 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 20	Posted - 2013.12.07 10:34:00 - [86] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: anymore game the play t'can they where point the to ISK of out running are gauranteed players new ?/@do guns other that damage the 3x doing guns stop and balance bring to going is patch what .variety no ,balance no s'there .stomp-proto ******* a is .game .single .every but choir the to sing then and record broken the play to sorry ,why realise and minutes 10 for it play.
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 472	Posted - 2013.12.07 10:40:00 - [87] - Quote FAKIR REDETTa wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: anymore game the play t'can they where point the to ISK of out running are gauranteed players new ?/@do guns other that damage the 3x doing guns stop and balance bring to going is patch what .variety no ,balance no s'there .stomp-proto ******* a is .game .single .every but choir the to sing then and record broken the play to sorry ,why realise and minutes 10 for it play. come on now i'm sure it had more spelling mistakes than that, you're not trying very hard are you... You've Been Hit By You've Been Struck By A Smooth Criminal
Elmo Love U 514 Mile High Club 18	Posted - 2013.12.07 13:42:00 - [88] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Compared to the Duvolle it's balanced. Plus you need the Amarr Assault suit for it to be truly overpowered. Without 2 complex damage mods besides using an Imperial, the gun is garbage compared to my toxin AR. I've only got 2x enhanced armour and 2x enahcned damage mods on my SCR alt. if my 12m SP main gets 2.3 KDR yet my 2m SP SCR alt can get 10.0 KDR with a SCR then something is wrong. There's your problem, 12M sp. Show me the money!
Coleman Gray GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 926	Posted - 2013.12.07 14:46:00 - [89] - Quote Heres a crazy idea, why not simply remove any and all damage increases? Damage mods are excusable since your using up fitting space, but weapon prof puts new players at a huge disadvantage. But don't cry about scrambler rifles when AR's do FG damage in the time it takes an FG to even charge up If Preparation is half of the battle and knowing is the other half, Then there is no need to fight.
SouljaGhostfaceCloneA MCDUSTDONALDS Zero-Day 70	Posted - 2013.12.07 14:54:00 - [90] - Quote if my future gun gets nerfed. i will put a bounty on you so hard. you wont dare step in FW again

Shattered Mirage D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 361	Posted - 2013.12.07 15:18:00 - [91] - Quote You all realize that it does ~1.5x to shields, yes? And you all realize that most people tank shields nowadays, yes? So... I'm thinking this is more of an issue with shields vs. armour. Though... I don't like the ASCR; nerf that to hell and back if you want. There are no facts, only interpretations. I am a monument to all your sins
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 1115	Posted - 2013.12.07 15:22:00 - [92] - Quote Make it work like a laser weapon, suck at cqc, great damage in optimal, decreased damage beyond optimal, problem solved. They should do the same with scr pistol, of course considering it is a short range weapon. "Just another piece of duct tape" Drugs for mercs
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 3568	Posted - 2013.12.07 15:37:00 - [93] - Quote Shattered Mirage wrote: Though... I don't like the ASCR; nerf that to hell and back if you want. Yes. Please, yes! \o/ Forum Prison Escapee Yes, 1.7 is going to suck. Proto Min Logi here I come! T_T
Bunny Demon Capital Acquisitions LLC Public Disorder. 15	Posted - 2013.12.07 15:51:00 - [94] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Compared to the Duvolle it's balanced. Plus you need the Amarr Assault suit for it to be truly overpowered. Without 2 complex damage mods besides using an Imperial, the gun is garbage compared to my toxin AR. I've only got 2x enhanced armour and 2x enahcned damage mods on my SCR alt. if my 12m SP main gets 2.3 KDR yet my 2m SP SCR alt can get 10.0 KDR with a SCR then something is wrong. With 2m sp you will be playing lower level players who are likely very new to the game, you will therefore have a massive advantage anyway due to your pre existing skill/understanding of the game Donate isk to the guy above ^ (Or me, whichever you prefer)
jordy mack Ultramarine Corp 52	Posted - 2013.12.07 20:02:00 - [95] - Quote Shattered Mirage wrote: You all realize that it does ~1.5x to shields, yes? And you all realize that most people tank shields nowadays, yes? So... I'm thinking this is more of an issue with shields vs. armour. Though... I don't like the ASCR; nerf that to hell and back if you want. No it doesn't, ithink u mean armor tank, and just coz u don't like it, really?
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1448	Posted - 2013.12.07 20:07:00 - [96] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: !nooooo don't take away mt beloved assault rifle I need to own scrubs some more. doing 900 damage per second is fine, becuase I kill n00bs with it. don't put me on a level playing field, pleeeeeeeeeeeease don't!!! fixed it for you "HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete." GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
RED FARM Punishers of Uranus 12	Posted - 2013.12.07 20:12:00 - [97] - Quote being able to only get 15 shots off before over heat combined with the jumps upward make it not too via for most. IMO
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 400	Posted - 2013.12.07 20:34:00 - [98] - Quote Charge shots should use more ammo or while fully charged heat build up continues. That's all it really needs.
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 374	Posted - 2013.12.07 20:35:00 - [99] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Johnny Guilt wrote: increase the hipfire spread on the regular variant ,done The SCR is a "mult purpose" weapon, the TAC is a variant in a line of 4 guns... Where does it say it muti purpose? It's built around the idea of a marksman weapon at range being a laser and yet it covers most ranges that players encounter,all in one gun.The Tac is a different matter. A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Alena Ventrallis Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 237	Posted - 2013.12.07 20:42:00 - [100] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: The Scrambler Rifle might use a bit of rework, especially now that its range is going to be buffed. But it shouldn't be "nerfed into the ground". Keep in mind that Scrambler users are paying a crazy ton fo PG to run that thing, it's the most expensive weapon from this point of view. In my honest opinon, the weapon is too devastating in CQC to be a tactical rifle. I wouldn't necessarily reduce the hipfire accuracy, maybe it could use a slight frequency-falloff damage, similar to the Laser rifle, but much less evident, so that the Scrambler's damage is slightly reduced within 15 meters. Another option to limit the "insta-kill" effect would be to lower the RoF cap a little bit to prevent trigger spamming... (not as much as the Tac AR, it's ridiculously easy to make it jam...) it wouldn't damage tactical gameplay, since charged shots can pretty much melt anything. I don't know, just a bunch of ideas. I feel like the Scrambler will be in a dangerous place in 1.7 after the range buff. People will cry about it even more and it might receive an exaggerated nerf. I love the weapon (even if I don't use it) and I would rather a slight calculated tweak instead of a sudden un-godly nerf. The same goes for the AR, the AR is NOT overpowered, it just needs recoil... It wouldn't affect hipfire, it wouldn't affect 0-30m ADS gunfights. It would just give ranged rifles a reason to exist (burst, tactical, laser rifles). Small tweaks, that's all we need. Let's throw away that Nerf Hammer, for the love of God... I am 100% against putting a laser rifle damage profile on the scrambler. IT makes no sense to begin with, and doesn't balance so much as gimp it. The damage isn't the issue, just as the damage of the AR isn't an issue. what the big issue is, is the application of that damage. So I will vehemently fight you over this point. However, I agree on increasing hip fire spread, especially while moving. this would give the CQC weapons an advantage, since they can more reliably apply their damage in close quarters. IF the scrambler user gets lucky and lands some good hits, that fine, because it wasn't his weapon being too powerful or him being skilled. It was simple luck of the draw, and you can't fault the weapon or the user for getting lucky. Range buff is good. Hip fire spread increase is good. Reduction in magazine ammo I can also get behind. But that god-awful laser rifle wonky-ass damage profile? I am against it wholeheartedly.

Dbukalski Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2013.12.07 20:49:00 - [101] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Jammeh McJam wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: gained about 420k passive SP through not playing thi sgame. play it for 10 minutes and realise why, sorry to play the broken record and then sing to the choir but every. single. game. is a ******* proto-stomp. there's no balance, no variety. what patch is going to bring balance and stop guns doing 3x the damage that other guns do@/? new players gauranteed are running out of ISK to the point where they can't play the game anymore. The problem is the aim assist eliminating most skill involved yeh thgat's my ISH. I been playing BF3 and if you don't shoot first the flinch will kill you, 5.8 KDr on BF3, go negative in DUST, see? si? k? que? I do the same kind of scores regardless of the FPS game i play, ive been a SCR user since day one they came out, not gonna change it just because they happened to be any good in the hands of someone that can aim, and by aim i mean i land 90% of my shots in normal FPS games, here its gonna be 60% or so ....due to the crappy KBM controls.. I mostly play Templar BPO these days with no damage mods, but you guys had 13ear and Zaria on your side, so when i see a team or equal level players, i crack out the good stuff...any less and i am very very dead against those guys... U guys are either lying or using hacks. Especially since games track stats. Like bf3 and bf4. Then u can see the best stats in the world. 5.8 kdr isnt happening as infantry. Maybe if u play as scout helo with engineer support so u never die. But then u shouldnt use that as basis for dust infantry play 90% accuracy aint happening unless u use only shotguns. Ur not getting 90% on any fps without cheats. Does dust support kbm? Because that would be unfortunate in a console game since that right there is an imbalance but u still dont get 60%
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 959	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:00:00 - [102] - Quote its getting buffed what tuesday ? why dont u go get on irc and cry to ccp in person
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1292	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:29:00 - [103] - Quote Dbukalski wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Jammeh McJam wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: gained about 420k passive SP through not playing thi sgame. play it for 10 minutes and realise why, sorry to play the broken record and then sing to the choir but every. single. game. is a ******* proto-stomp. there's no balance, no variety. what patch is going to bring balance and stop guns doing 3x the damage that other guns do@/? new players gauranteed are running out of ISK to the point where they can't play the game anymore. The problem is the aim assist eliminating most skill involved yeh thgat's my ISH. I been playing BF3 and if you don't shoot first the flinch will kill you, 5.8 KDr on BF3, go negative in DUST, see? si? k? que? I do the same kind of scores regardless of the FPS game i play, ive been a SCR user since day one they came out, not gonna change it just because they happened to be any good in the hands of someone that can aim, and by aim i mean i land 90% of my shots in normal FPS games, here its gonna be 60% or so ....due to the crappy KBM controls.. I mostly play Templar BPO these days with no damage mods, but you guys had 13ear and Zaria on your side, so when i see a team or equal level players, i crack out the good stuff...any less and i am very very dead against those guys... U guys are either lying or using hacks. Especially since games track stats. Like bf3 and bf4. Then u can see the best stats in the world. 5.8 kdr isnt happening as infantry. Maybe if u play as scout helo with engineer support so u never die. But then u shouldnt use that as basis for dust infantry play 90% accuracy aint happening unless u use only shotguns. Ur not getting 90% on any fps without cheats. Does dust support kbm? Because that would be unfortunate in a console game since that right there is an imbalance but u still dont get 60% People QQ and PM me allot in APB Reloaded as to where i get my hacks & aimbot, because i don't miss there but its just a simple combination of Jump Sniping, Combined with Drag Shots, Quick Scopes and training your self to only release your shot when you are 100% sure that its a hit, with the variable framerate we have here in Dust its impossible but with a stable 100 FPS in APB R, its quite easy.......just click my Accuracy Link, no hacks dude... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2808	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:31:00 - [104] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: gained about 420k passive SP through not playing thi sgame. play it for 10 minutes and realise why, sorry to play the broken record and then sing to the choir but every. single. game. is a ***** proto-stomp. there's no balance, no variety. what patch is going to bring balance and stop guns doing 3x the damage that other guns do@/? new players gauranteed are running out of ISK to the point where they can't play the game anymore. Sweet,sweet tears....** WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
Judal Wraith The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 0	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:34:00 - [105] - Quote IVE BEEN USING IT SINCE IT CAME OUT AND I ACTUALLY PRACTICE AND DIED ALOT TO GET WHERE IM AT NOW PPL ARE TAKING A GOOD GUN AND GETTING IT NERFED I UNDERSTAND IT DOES NEED BUT WHY NOT NERF A SECTION OF THE GUN LIKE THE IMPERIAL CAN OVERHEAT QUICKER AND TAKE MORE DAMAGE SO PPL CANT JUST PICK IT UP AND GO 40/0 I ONLY USE CRW AND I CAN GO 20/2 ALOT SO DONT NERF THE WHOLE GUN ITS NOT PPL LIKE ME WHO SKILLED INTO THE RIGHT STUFF FAULT ITS OP NOW JUST THE PUNK FIT OF THE MONTH RUNNERS,


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