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Cody Sietz
Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance
1725
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Posted - 2013.12.06 14:52:00 -
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Here is how I used to run my Gallente assault.
1 complex dmg mod 1 enhanced dmg mod 1 complex extender 2 complex reppers 2 enhanced plates.
A 6 percent reduction and a little over 700 ehp.
Thing is, I will still be able to get that level of ehp on my suit, but if I wanna avoid the delay I have to drop the extender and put on 2 complex plates.
I now have to choose between a depleted delay or a 10 percent movement penalty, up from 6.
Good job, CCP.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Drapedup Drippedout
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
96
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Posted - 2013.12.06 15:03:00 -
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Here is how I run my Minmatar Assault:
3x Complex Shield Ext 2x Complex Dmg Mod
1x Basic Armor 1x CPU enh
Duvolle m512 m1
With the added penalty, I have to trade off dmg mods for eHP because I only have 2 lows and no CPU/PG to run anything w/o enhancers. Can't dodge the delay at all, and at most have less than 600 lolehp on an assault suit.
Thanks CCP, **** you too. |
Cody Sietz
Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance
1725
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Posted - 2013.12.06 15:16:00 -
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Drapedup Drippedout wrote:Here is how I run my Minmatar Assault:
3x Complex Shield Ext 2x Complex Dmg Mod
1x Basic Armor 1x CPU enh
Duvolle m512 m1
With the added penalty, I have to trade off dmg mods for eHP because I only have 2 lows and no CPU/PG to run anything w/o enhancers. Can't dodge the delay at all, and at most have less than 600 lolehp on an assault suit.
Thanks CCP, **** you too. well, if you dropped the 512 for a std smg and swap a complex dmg mod for a enhanced you might be able to run a reguator?
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
481
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Posted - 2013.12.06 15:41:00 -
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TBH, I don't think anyone will notice any change in delays aside from stats on paper. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3287
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Posted - 2013.12.06 15:51:00 -
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Highs: 2x complex mods 1x Enhanced Precision enhancer (I have my range skill maxed so it actually helps)
Lows: 1x complex armor rep 1x Basic Plate 1x Enhanced plate 1x Complex plate
Mids: Duvolle PAR Toxin SMG Allotek Flux Grenade 80% Nanite Injector
382 CPU 73 PG consumed
Shields are the defense of the weak. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2441
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Posted - 2013.12.06 15:57:00 -
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It's terrible. Extenders already have a penalty. They have much lower HP than plates because they have various bonuses built in.
It used to be the case that you chose between pure HP, or reduced HP with a benefits package. Introducing a penalty to shield extenders defeats the purpose of running shields in the first place.
They could have achieved this better by introducing new shield modules that would function similar to the energizers we have now.
No.
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DootDoot
Da Short Buss
113
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Posted - 2013.12.06 16:02:00 -
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It's another example of CCP not knowing what the hell is going on in the game.
Who even has shields? is a 22hp and 33 hp basic and STD shield extender really worth nerfing further?
NO ONE USES SHIELDS NO MORE WELCOME TO TWO PATCHES AGO CCP?!?!
ANOTHER GIANT WASTE OF TIME....... Seriously who the hell is telling CCP this **** so I can give you a smack at fanfest. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U.
746
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Posted - 2013.12.06 16:09:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Here is how I used to run my Gallente assault.
1 complex dmg mod 1 enhanced dmg mod 1 complex extender 2 complex reppers 2 enhanced plates.
A 6 percent reduction and a little over 700 ehp.
Thing is, I will still be able to get that level of ehp on my suit, but if I wanna avoid the delay I have to drop the extender and put on 2 complex plates.
I now have to choose between a depleted delay or a 10 percent movement penalty, up from 6.
Good job, CCP. this is the gallente assault?
I run scout gk.0
usually when I'm using anything other than shotguns, REs, or Nova Knives, I just do this:
1 Complex DMG mod 4 Enhanced Armor Plates Compact Nanohive Any kind of Rifle (usually Carthum Assault Rifle or Allotek AR), Pistol, or SMG Viziam Pistol or Ishukone SMG M1 Grenade
note: I often time run dual sidearms, usually PROTO pistol and PROTO SMG, but sometimes I may switch it up (i.e Boundless SMG and Ishukone SMG).
Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
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Drapedup Drippedout
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
98
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Posted - 2013.12.06 16:13:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Drapedup Drippedout wrote:Here is how I run my Minmatar Assault:
3x Complex Shield Ext 2x Complex Dmg Mod
1x Basic Armor 1x CPU enh
Duvolle m512 m1
With the added penalty, I have to trade off dmg mods for eHP because I only have 2 lows and no CPU/PG to run anything w/o enhancers. Can't dodge the delay at all, and at most have less than 600 lolehp on an assault suit.
Thanks CCP, **** you too. well, if you dropped the 512 for a std smg and swap a complex dmg mod for a enhanced you might be able to run a reguator?
Maybe Cody, I'm at work now so can't see the suits but I think the problem is I max out PG with anything other than a CPU in low slot. The PG is god awful and if I don't run CPU, I still don't have enough PG to run anything else (If I run another armor plate I gimp speed but also run out of CPU for highs). I could start knocking things back to adv level, but in a suit that's a glass cannon to begin with I won't live long enough for shield regs to outweigh the dmg mods. |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
527
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Posted - 2013.12.06 16:17:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Here is how I used to run my Gallente assault.
1 complex dmg mod 1 enhanced dmg mod 1 complex extender 2 complex reppers 2 enhanced plates.
A 6 percent reduction and a little over 700 ehp.
Thing is, I will still be able to get that level of ehp on my suit, but if I wanna avoid the delay I have to drop the extender and put on 2 complex plates.
I now have to choose between a depleted delay or a 10 percent movement penalty, up from 6.
Good job, CCP.
You do realize that this is a stacking penalty right? And that it will only come in to effect with the second extender?
You won't be affected.
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xAckie
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
366
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Posted - 2013.12.06 16:21:00 -
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DootDoot wrote:It's another example of CCP not knowing what the hell is going on in the game.
Who even has shields? is a 22hp and 33 hp basic and STD shield extender really worth nerfing further?
NO ONE USES SHIELDS NO MORE WELCOME TO TWO PATCHES AGO CCP?!?!
ANOTHER GIANT WASTE OF TIME....... Seriously who the hell is telling CCP this **** so I can give you a smack at fanfest.
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Terra Thesis
HDYLTA Defiant Legacy
387
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Posted - 2013.12.06 16:21:00 -
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now I'm not totally against the shield Nerf, but i think it's funny a bunch of guys in gallente suits are coming in here and going, "hey, the shield Nerf isn't so bad after all! guess I'll just remove my one extender!"
HDYLTA - Freedom Delivered
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Vesperz
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
18
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Posted - 2013.12.06 16:44:00 -
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Yeah, okay.
MK.0
1 Complex Shield Extender 2 Enhanced Shield Extender
CRG-3 M209 SMG or ADV Nova Knives
Quantum Scanner
Complex Kin Complex Cardiac.
Overall - 270 shields and 87 Armor. With this stupid delay I'm going to have to sacrifice my speed which is essential... or my stamina which is also essential when I'm trying to get away. Either way I'm ****** more so than I already am.
An assassin's blade isn't seen nor heard, it is felt.
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RECON BY FIRE
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
317
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Posted - 2013.12.06 17:05:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Here is how I used to run my Gallente assault.
1 complex dmg mod 1 enhanced dmg mod 1 complex extender 2 complex reppers 2 enhanced plates.
A 6 percent reduction and a little over 700 ehp.
Thing is, I will still be able to get that level of ehp on my suit, but if I wanna avoid the delay I have to drop the extender and put on 2 complex plates.
I now have to choose between a depleted delay or a 10 percent movement penalty, up from 6.
Good job, CCP.
Gotta say, youre a ******* moron.
Stuff....?
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Daxxis KANNAH
Distinct Covert Initiative
502
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Posted - 2013.12.06 18:33:00 -
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Vesperz wrote:Yeah, okay. MK.0 1 Complex Shield Extender 2 Enhanced Shield Extender CRG-3 M209 SMG or ADV Nova Knives Quantum Scanner Complex Kin Complex Cardiac. Overall - 270 shields and 87 Armor. With this stupid delay I'm going to have to sacrifice my speed which is essential... or my stamina which is also essential when I'm trying to get away. Either way I'm ****** more so than I already am.
Drop scanner and go 2 complex extenders - that should only be 3% delay or drop one extender for a damage mod.
My new way is a return to my RE's or sometimes a compact hive, It can repair you twice (if you dont need too much ammo) |
DeeJay One
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
133
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Posted - 2013.12.06 18:38:00 -
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DootDoot wrote:NO ONE USES SHIELDS NO MORE WELCOME TO TWO PATCHES AGO CCP?!?! Please say hello to my new shiny Combat Rifle eating your armour ;) |
CaveCav
Eliters RUST415
78
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Posted - 2013.12.06 19:24:00 -
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I hope the new guns will bring better balance to shield vs armor.
Or I'm gonna have to start armor tanking my caldari logi suit and I'm gonna smack in the face the first person I hear complaining
Dedicated Logibro, Gunner, Counter-Sniper
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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
791
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Posted - 2013.12.07 06:48:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Here is how I used to run my Gallente assault.
1 complex dmg mod 1 enhanced dmg mod 1 complex extender 2 complex reppers 2 enhanced plates.
A 6 percent reduction and a little over 700 ehp.
Thing is, I will still be able to get that level of ehp on my suit, but if I wanna avoid the delay I have to drop the extender and put on 2 complex plates.
I now have to choose between a depleted delay or a 10 percent movement penalty, up from 6.
Good job, CCP. Really? 'Cause here's my explanation of why it would be terrible.
MINMATAR ARISE! DEMAND that our race's suits be FIXED!!! WE WILL NOT GIVE IN!!
MATARI PRIDE!!
FIX TTK!!
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