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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

my question was answered in the dev blog but the thread continues so i have deleted my point and put ccp nullarbor's post here instead just incase you cant be bothered to scroll down

CCP Nullarbor wrote:

Cody Sietz wrote:

CCP Nullarbor wrote:

The new friendly fire punishment will kick you from battle immediately after 4 team kills or 5000 hp of damage. The character is then banned for the rest of the day.

We may change those thresholds after we launch too, we'll see how it all goes.

Holy poop!

We need to broadcast this!

It was mentioned in the devblog, but the blog was pretty long so I'll forgive you for missing it:

http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/12/strengthening-the-link-factional-warfare-in-uprising-1.7/

Quote:

The first way a player can be removed from a Factional Contract match is by being punished for excessive team killing. When you team kill a player, that player will have the option on their kill screen to punish the person who killed them. If you get punished enough in a single match you will be kicked from the battle.

The other way a player can be removed from a Factional Contract match due to friendly fire is by simply dealing substantial damage to teammates or their vehicles. When you damage a friendly in Factional Contracts, the amount of damage you are cause will be tracked. You will get 4 warnings, but upon dealing enough damage you will be removed from the match. Damage done to teammates that forgive you is still counted, so watch your fire!

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Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1138	Posted - 2013.12.04 00:28:00 - [31] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: How does this apply for Squad Leaders and orbital strikes? You get the kill for the orbital. So I guess it will count toward your TKs. Makes Projectile Orbitals more useful and encourages careful usage of laser and hybrid strikes.
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 602	Posted - 2013.12.04 00:37:00 - [32] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: How does this apply for Squad Leaders and orbital strikes? You get the kill for the orbital. So I guess it will count toward your TKs. Makes Projectile Orbitals more useful and encourages careful usage of laser and hybrid strikes. i doubt it. kill mail goes to the guy in space and tk based on orbitals would render most orbitals an instant kick for even the carefullest of squad leaders considering the sheer amount of ungrouped wannabe rambo's in dust charging into fire. i can't see ccp implementing that but i could be wrong. either way i doubt it will be in place for long https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2060	Posted - 2013.12.04 00:45:00 - [33] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: How does this apply for Squad Leaders and orbital strikes? You get the kill for the orbital. So I guess it will count toward your TKs. Makes Projectile Orbitals more useful and encourages careful usage of laser and hybrid strikes. i doubt it. kill mail goes to the guy in space and tk based on orbitals would render most orbitals an instant kick for even the carefullest of squad leaders considering the sheer amount of ungrouped wannabe rambo's in dust charging into fire. i can't see ccp implementing that but i could be wrong. either way i doubt it will be in place for long Confirmed by CCP FoxFour that orbital TKs go to the merc that called it and that one bad call can be enough to get you kicked for the day. // Matari Warrior // Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1616	Posted - 2013.12.04 00:54:00 - [34] - Quote What? What? FF On?! You mean I'll have to start paying attention where I spray those bullets?! ... Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 602	Posted - 2013.12.04 00:56:00 - [35] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: How does this apply for Squad Leaders and orbital strikes? You get the kill for the orbital. So I guess it will count toward your TKs. Makes Projectile Orbitals more useful and encourages careful usage of laser and hybrid strikes. i doubt it. kill mail goes to the guy in space and tk based on orbitals would render most orbitals an instant kick for even the carefullest of squad leaders considering the sheer amount of ungrouped wannabe rambo's in dust charging into fire. i can't see ccp implementing that but i could be wrong. either way i doubt it will be in place for long Confirmed by CCP FoxFour that orbital TKs go to the merc that called it and that one bad call can be enough to get you kicked for the day. so "danger close" orbitals are now a thing of the past seen only in pub matches. i dont see this staying in FW for long considering it will likely get anyone who uses it kicked from the fight and costing the squad its leader. it not worth the risk for anyone to use an orbital if thats the case https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Mark Crusader Sons of Kharvash 20	Posted - 2013.12.04 02:06:00 - [36] - Quote My desperate flux grenade spamming is going to get me into trouble. That is a lot of shield HP nuked all at once, usually in the vicinity of friendlies.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 552	Posted - 2013.12.04 02:19:00 - [37] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: The new friendly fire punishment will kick you from battle immediately after 4 team kills or 5000 hp of damage. The character is then banned for the rest of the day. We may change those thresholds after we launch too, we'll see how it all goes. Does that apply in any regards to vehicle collision damage, like "accidental" dropship squishage. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 283	Posted - 2013.12.04 02:33:00 - [38] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: CCP Nullarbor wrote: The new friendly fire punishment will kick you from battle immediately after 4 team kills or 5000 hp of damage. The character is then banned for the rest of the day. We may change those thresholds after we launch too, we'll see how it all goes. Does that apply in any regards to vehicle collision damage, like "accidental" dropship squishage. Imagine me standing MLT heavies ubder your DS as you land, or jumping out in front of your LAV, or right after you activate NoS on your tank? LAV murder man: "I can kill with rails, therefore they're OP." NERF THE SCOUTS!
Dimmu Borgir II The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 182	Posted - 2013.12.04 02:41:00 - [39] - Quote Are we gonna be able to destroy our own equipment in FW??? If so then that random blueberry you see every match trying to destroy friendly uplinks is actually going to be able to do so for once? Blue is good, red is bad, orange you glad you're not red?
Dimmu Borgir II The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 182	Posted - 2013.12.04 02:43:00 - [40] - Quote Mark Crusader wrote: My desperate flux grenade spamming is going to get me into trouble. That is a lot of shield HP nuked all at once, usually in the vicinity of friendlies. Yeah, this is gonna bring about a completely different playstyle for a lot of us, I'm a fuse grenading, mass-driving, remote exploding logi who is now not gonna be able to use any of that without fooking over my own team Blue is good, red is bad, orange you glad you're not red?

lok rark StealthSquad 13	Posted - 2013.12.04 10:48:00 - [41] - Quote Dude I run M/1 MD aswell. Whats the point of having one that has such a high rate of fire if you have to check every shot? I also fire mine like a blind man. But SERIOUSLY think about THIS.... How often do you T.K yourself ? Do we get banned for that ALSO? CCP nerfed the Heavy so I had to switch to MD now what FOTM do they want me to switch to? I cant help but feel like they are trying to force me to wear the suit THEY want me to wear using the AR THEY want me to use. CCP I reject your LogiSlayer AR
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 303	Posted - 2013.12.04 11:09:00 - [42] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: ccp will just implement a kick from battle system or something similar. ccp is trying to implement more viable game modes with extra danger and some of you have no interest in the content apart from the fact you can abuse one of the main mechanics for increasing the danger and risk. if you grief fw too much they will just implement a way to stop you and in doing so ruin it for everyone else. it has not even started yet and people are coming up with ways to ruin it. i hope ccp is taking note and coming up with solutions Um, they are implementing a kick from battle feature... not until you lose all your rep. in which case your out and all you do is grind it back up and repeat Hmm no to my understanding you get kicked from four TK`s or as soon as you inflict the amount of 5000HP damage to friendlies. In both cases you get kicked and locked of from FW until the next DT AND you will loose 450 standing points to that faction each time you get kicked...(well till you have 0 of course)
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 551	Posted - 2013.12.04 11:15:00 - [43] - Quote I run knives (after i've wiped the butter off them) I'd like to see someone run into my line of fire! Hitting the enemy is difficult enough "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 669	Posted - 2013.12.04 11:29:00 - [44] - Quote "When you damage a friendly in Factional Contracts, the amount of damage you caused will be tracked. You will get 4 warnings, but upon dealing enough damage you will be removed from the match." so if someone had to run in front of my FG just when i shoot it, and he/she gets killed i will get removed from the match?? since the FG has such a massive dmg output in a single shot. YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
steadyhand amarr steadyhands independent mercenarys 2006	Posted - 2013.12.04 11:36:00 - [45] - Quote Is kills and damage per day or match cuz i plan on educating red line snipers. Also OS warnings lolteamchat might start getting used again most cuz "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
dzizur Proctology Academy General Tso's Alliance 0	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:18:00 - [46] - Quote wow, some people seriously need help ;) ccp finally brought game changing stuff to the table that makes you think, plan ahead, watch out for other people instead of nade spamming LAMF and pay and spray "tactics" but the result is people bitchin` "nooo thats stupid, we want our dust back!" (i can imagine most of those people bitching a week back "give us something new, this is soo boring") i know it will "hurt" some playstyles, like MD, already mentioned nades (especially flux as some guy pointed out), OB and the list goes on. but is it really bad? to find new ways to play? i`m really happy that this is happening, i always thought that it`s stupid when an orbital hacks to pieces a guy thats 1 meter from me, but not me. yeah i know its zilion years away technology but cmon, its ******* raining hell, GTFO or die. and before someone will throw AR 514 accusations at me - i run a scout and get most of my kills with RE, so i`ll have to be veeeery precise this time not to blow up my whole squad, but still i think it`ll be fun, even more than before. i also understand that this is a "new" feature and will have a lot of drawback, bugfixing (does the suicide work as TK? as some other guy also mentioned here) and what not, but it`s still worth it in my opinion. and lastly to the guy thats "winner of EU squad cup" - i hope you`re joking dude.. educating redline snipers by doing even worse then them (they at least get SOME frags and rarely die, and you`re gonna cost you`re team some clones and dont get any frags because you`re too busy "educating") i heard that words work when it comes to educations, guns and killing sadly does the opposite ;) and there`s a nice word for all you that don`t like the changes - ADAPT (and there are two others too! public skirmish)
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 87	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:51:00 - [47] - Quote Its a sad day when you realize cod hardcore mode is safer to play in than fw 2.0. Just shows how childish and pathetic this community is The best part of waking up, is whiskey in my cuuuuup!
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1838	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:08:00 - [48] - Quote 5000HP? The ****? i could just shoot at ppl enough for the enemy to kill them instead and do this for the entire game and not get kicked because i need over 5000HP of damage to be done before i get the boot Or you could get a 6man squad with milita FG to shoot at an friendly HAV and maybe be able to kill it by trying to alpha it
Skybladev2 Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415 70	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:14:00 - [49] - Quote Grind it with militia! Kill proto mates! ^,.,^ <[^_^]>
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 568	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:44:00 - [50] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: my question was answered in the dev blog but the thread continues so i have deleted my point and put ccp nullarbor's post here instead just incase you cant be bothered to scroll down CCP Nullarbor wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: CCP Nullarbor wrote: The new friendly fire punishment will kick you from battle immediately after 4 team kills or 5000 hp of damage. The character is then banned for the rest of the day. We may change those thresholds after we launch too, we'll see how it all goes. Holy poop! We need to broadcast this! It was mentioned in the devblog, but the blog was pretty long so I'll forgive you for missing it: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/12/strengthening-the-link-factional-warfare-in-uprising-1.7/ Quote: The first way a player can be removed from a Factional Contract match is by being punished for excessive team killing. When you team kill a player, that player will have the option on their kill screen to punish the person who killed them. If you get punished enough in a single match you will be kicked from the battle. The other way a player can be removed from a Factional Contract match due to friendly fire is by simply dealing substantial damage to teammates or their vehicles. When you damage a friendly in Factional Contracts, the amount of damage you are cause will be tracked. You will get 4 warnings, but upon dealing enough damage you will be removed from the match. Damage done to teammates that forgive you is still counted, so watch your fire! Some clones are worth the punishment

D34NOS MAZDA WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 256	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:50:00 - [51] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: CCP Nullarbor wrote: The new friendly fire punishment will kick you from battle immediately after 4 team kills or 5000 hp of damage. The character is then banned for the rest of the day. We may change those thresholds after we launch too, we'll see how it all goes. does the 5000hp apply to say... a tank's shields? or is that just on infantry? If it does the RDV pilots that drop vehicles will be banned
Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 708	Posted - 2013.12.04 16:02:00 - [52] - Quote Make friendly fire for 50% less effective to help with fixing accidental tks *CALDARI MASTER RACE*
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 521	Posted - 2013.12.04 16:17:00 - [53] - Quote I guess you guys don't play in PC regularly or have never played MAG. 4 team kills in a match is easy to avoid just don't be stupid, learn trigger control, pay attention to your reticle if its blue don't shoot, and only toss grenades into a group of enemies who are not in QCQ with your teammates. There will occasionally be douchebags but they will get banned for the day. Sorry if your main weapon is the MD or you perfer to sit on a nanohive and chuck grenades, but you're just gonna have to learn to change your play style or avoid FW.
AP Grasshopper The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 50	Posted - 2013.12.04 16:18:00 - [54] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: The new friendly fire punishment will kick you from battle immediately after 4 team kills or 5000 hp of damage. The character is then banned for the rest of the day. We may change those thresholds after we launch too, we'll see how it all goes. 5000hp or 5000ehp because vehicle griefing is expensive...
lok rark StealthSquad 13	Posted - 2013.12.04 23:51:00 - [55] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Sorry if your main weapon is the MD or you perfer to sit on a nanohive and chuck grenades, but you're just gonna have to learn to change your play style or avoid FW. I prefer to sit on two K2's firing my EC3 proto, spaming nades all day long. It shouldn't matter if people dont like it because... FYI MassDriver was nerfed into the ground after it was FOTM. I stuck with it and poured all my skill to lvl 5 +3pro. Its pretty gimped still. I hear you though man... it could be good for the game because they are actually trying to stop people running exploits for once TM. Can it ever be solved? IDK The idiots in game want to run revenge grief operations and wont change the way they think. I can finally understand why people want respec's now though. How do you guys FOTM everymonth they do this? Where do you get all this spare SP? And whats the next FOTM? /me stomps MD and throws it into pile of sentinel junk


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