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Ghural wrote:

The main issues for me regarding FW are

- Not having racial variants of suits/vehicles means you either buy something you don't want, or stockpile LPs until they appear at some magical far off date in the future..

- Difficult for EVE pilots to know where battles are taking place in order to provide orbital support. Perhaps the faction warfare map in EVE needs to able to show where dust battles are being spawned.

- The fact that friendly fire is on in these matches had better be made obvious in game - not everyone reads the forums/websites - please make a tutorial.

- It would be nice if there was a visual indication of a players standings in FW (rank badge or something) on their dropsuit.

- How are building sockets selected when maps are generated? Random? By owning race?

- A small detail. But it would be cool if there were flags or something similar on the buildings that indicated the current owner of the facility.

- Another possibility. Perhaps there should be a racially themed claim unit/building in the small sockets that indicate ownership. It could even spout propaganda that you can hear if you get close.

- Another point. If I am fighting for the Amarr, I should be deploying from an Amarr MCC. The warbarge should also be according to race.

- The side display screens in the Merc quarters could be utilized to keep players informed on the state of faction warfare.

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CCP Nullarbor C C P C C P Alliance 3101	Posted - 2013.12.04 10:38:00 - [151] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: 1. Will LP gain be taxed? If so, can you buy faction items using the corp LP wallet, and are they transferable to players like ISK No tax on LP. dustwaffle wrote: 2. Are corporation overall standings affected by individuals as in EVE? No. dustwaffle wrote: 3. What is the max team damage done before you're autokicked, is this a fixed amount or variable? 5000 HP, but we may change that as required. CCP Nullarbor // Exotic Dancer // Team True Grit

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7306	Posted - 2013.12.04 10:48:00 - [152] - Quote Is there a way for EVE players to tell where Dust FW battles of their allies are happening so they can provide orbital support? Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 1066	Posted - 2013.12.04 10:50:00 - [153] - Quote The real problem will be comms. At least squad leaders, should have a command to indicate to leave an area, because they are about to request a strike. "Just another piece of duct tape" Drugs for mercs
X7 lion Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 62	Posted - 2013.12.04 11:01:00 - [154] - Quote the proof of the pudding is in the eating, but as long as i can still refit my suit and moduals ect with out being restricted to a particular faction ill be happy, also i hope that increasing gallente standing wont decrease minmitar standing and vice versa.
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 178	Posted - 2013.12.04 11:31:00 - [155] - Quote Elmo Love U wrote: I have no interest in FW or PC. I just wanna kill people. Since I won't be able to mass murder my entire team, can I just keep killing the same one and revive him? Ask Hellsatano Good Question though! I guess you can only do it a certain number of times before you end up kicked...though if you got a mate to play victim, and he ran as low an eHP as possible (say, 200?), then in theory you could kill him 25 times before you hit the 5000 HP kick limit. CEOPyrex CloneA wrote: Read it, loved it, cant wait Placing a bounty on Sorry Wrong Chat - if hes using a Thales, 1m to each confirmed blue on blue kill of him. Other metagaming contracts to follow (IWS for example) :) I want to like this twice, lol
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 309	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:04:00 - [156] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: dustwaffle wrote: 1. Will LP gain be taxed? If so, can you buy faction items using the corp LP wallet, and are they transferable to players like ISK No tax on LP. dustwaffle wrote: 2. Are corporation overall standings affected by individuals as in EVE? No. dustwaffle wrote: 3. What is the max team damage done before you're autokicked, is this a fixed amount or variable? 5000 HP, but we may change that as required. This is way too high. A clever awoxer could take the shields off dozens of players, ruining the team effort, without getting kicked. 2000HP or even 1000HP would be more reasonable. I can see that you could exceed that with a single misaimed shot from a forge gun or large rail. To deal with that simply weigh infantry and vehicle damage differently. So you can do 1000HP infantry damage or 3000HP vehicle damage or an equivalent combination (e.g. 500HP infantry plus 1500HP vehicle) before you're kicked.
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 217	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:22:00 - [157] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: CCP Nullarbor wrote: dustwaffle wrote: 1. Will LP gain be taxed? If so, can you buy faction items using the corp LP wallet, and are they transferable to players like ISK No tax on LP. dustwaffle wrote: 2. Are corporation overall standings affected by individuals as in EVE? No. dustwaffle wrote: 3. What is the max team damage done before you're autokicked, is this a fixed amount or variable? 5000 HP, but we may change that as required. This is way too high. A clever awoxer could take the shields off dozens of players, ruining the team effort, without getting kicked. 2000HP or even 1000HP would be more reasonable. I can see that you could exceed that with a single misaimed shot from a forge gun or large rail. To deal with that simply weigh infantry and vehicle damage differently. So you can do 1000HP infantry damage or 3000HP vehicle damage or an equivalent combination (e.g. 500HP infantry plus 1500HP vehicle) before you're kicked. I agree, if you put a sword pointing towards a driver of a car on the steering wheel, THEY WILL DRIVE CAREFULLY EVEN WITH SEAT BELTS. You could easily sweep 10 guys shields with a laser, just a quick flick across them. So if the kick came much earlier, it would be a reasonable penalty. Even if based on damage dealt, its still to high as you can easily kill a few squishes with that. . __ `/.)\ Nade \| Scan Attempt Prevented \| 31 mill SP \__/ 514 \| NFP Prime League Winner\| Longest Kill 588 Mtr`
Ghermard-ol Dizeriois Maphia Clan Corporation 18	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:46:00 - [158] - Quote So much stuff here. The only "major" problem I can see is that EVE teams will have a great advantage against who hasn't an EVE pilot in his Corporation. The "NO ISK" issue isn't a real matter since there are Corp Taxes. From here, it looks interesting, but only the battle shall prove the effectiveness of these changes. If you're an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 4013	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:51:00 - [159] - Quote Questions regarding standings in 1.7 Faction Warfare changes: "When you win a battle for one of these corporations, two things will simultaneously happen: You will gain 75 points of standing towards the corporation that you fought for, while losing 15 points of standing towards the corporation you fought against." So, my question is: Are standings for the opposing corporation capped at a minimum of zero or is it possible to go negative? Also, is this spreadsheet showing correct/intended mechanics? Assuming either situation, if this is correct than it's entirely possible to get perfect standings with all four factions. Edit: Granted, you'd have to be -very- dedicated toward that to get 1,000+ victories between all factions... but... forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m= (Frames) 1544109 (Advertisement) 1556863 (Hyperlinks) 1556885
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 610	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:11:00 - [160] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: so... AFKers? AFKers? It's called friendly fire. I don't see much AFK happening in FW. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!

ROEG X Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 27	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:30:00 - [161] - Quote I see alot people team killing on purpose and I think you should get paid a nice sum of isk for playing factional warfare because I do know people are bringing their expensive toys out on the battlefield in factional warfare. Factional warfare will be high risk and we all know as mercs the greater the risk the greater the reward so CCP please bring isk payouts per battle as well as loyalty points. It's no fun if you can't collect a payment from the faction you fight for. Maybe Eve pilots should pay us for our loyalty in factional warfare it would be interesting to see how much isk would be paid to make one of the 4 factions dominate over the others. Can't wait to play the new factional warfare and see how loyalty points could benefit me. I know it's gonna be alot of bad team mates in battle on purpose shooting others and won't care about there loyalty standings. CCP just throw some isk payments in factional warfare to make those faction battles all the more worth it to fight.
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 217	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:32:00 - [162] - Quote ROEG X wrote: I see alot people team killing on purpose and I think you should get paid a nice sum of isk for playing factional warfare because I do know people are bringing their expensive toys out on the battlefield in factional warfare. Factional warfare will be high risk and we all know as mercs the greater the risk the greater the reward so CCP please bring isk payouts per battle as well as loyalty points. It's no fun if you can't collect a payment from the faction you fight for. Maybe Eve pilots should pay us for our loyalty in factional warfare it would be interesting to see how much isk would be paid to make one of the 4 factions dominate over the others. Can't wait to play the new factional warfare and see how loyalty points could benefit me. I know it's gonna be alot of bad team mates in battle on purpose shooting others and won't care about there loyalty standings. CCP just throw some isk payments in factional warfare to make those faction battles all the more worth it to fight. Don't you think you should try it first. ! . __ `/.)\ Nade \| Scan Attempt Prevented \| 31 mill SP \__/ 514 \| NFP Prime League Winner\| Longest Kill 588 Mtr`
ROEG X Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 27	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:55:00 - [163] - Quote People can't shoot with auto aim on lol !!! team killing is gonna be horrible in factional warfare....... CCP we need ISK payouts for Factional warfare battles.
Denesian Morenti The Neutral Zone 0	Posted - 2013.12.04 14:01:00 - [164] - Quote Question: What happens if you drop an orbital on your own teammates? Would that be enough damage to get you kicked? I realize that it requires an EVE alliance, but just throwing the question out.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2069	Posted - 2013.12.04 14:20:00 - [165] - Quote Denesian Morenti wrote: Question: What happens if you drop an orbital on your own teammates? Would that be enough damage to get you kicked? I realize that it requires an EVE alliance, but just throwing the question out. Yes. // Matari Warrior // Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana
exolden shadovar Iron Havok 16	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:02:00 - [166] - Quote Something that's been needed but still alot of things I don't like about it. I don't like the idea of using my gear and time for coal miner tokens. We should get paid for faction stuff too or at least have the option to be.
LittleCuteBunny 238	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:04:00 - [167] - Quote Where are our killmails?
Gold Zapa New Gen Clones 13	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:12:00 - [168] - Quote Ghural wrote: The main issues for me regarding FW are - Not having racial variants of suits/vehicles means you either buy something you don't want, or stockpile LPs until they appear at some magical far off date in the future.. - Difficult for EVE pilots to know where battles are taking place in order to provide orbital support. Perhaps the faction warfare map in EVE needs to able to show where dust battles are being spawned. - The fact that friendly fire is on in these matches had better be made obvious in game - not everyone reads the forums/websites - please make a tutorial. - It would be nice if there was a visual indication of a players standings in FW (rank badge or something) on their dropsuit. - How are building sockets selected when maps are generated? Random? By owning race? - A small detail. But it would be cool if there were flags or something similar on the buildings that indicated the current owner of the facility. - Another possibility. Perhaps there should be a racially themed claim unit/building in the small sockets that indicate ownership. It could even spout propaganda that you can hear if you get close. - Another point. If I am fighting for the Amarr, I should be deploying from an Amarr MCC. The warbarge should also be according to race. - The side display screens in the Merc quarters could be utilized to keep players informed on the state of faction warfare. i agree with this statement. I want to feel like i'm actually fighting for the race of my choosing and fight with the same race of people.
Cymek Omnius Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:23:00 - [169] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: The four Empires of New Eden are waging a grueling proxy war against each other in space, and the fighting has spread to the planets below as each seeks to claim territory for itself. With the fighting intensifying, Team True Grit has decided that Faction Contract in DUST 514 were to become more awesome. Read on to find out just how you'll be taking planets for the empire of your choice in Uprising 1.7. Thank you for taking out the no standings loss from the FW Arum boosters!
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2072	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:32:00 - [170] - Quote exolden shadovar wrote: last 3 updates have mostly been cosmetic ... and major overhauls to code that you don't see. exolden shadovar wrote: taking out the grunting noise would be nice Cosmetic in an audio context. Yeah, let's get right on that. EDIT: Also, don't call me a lemming. I praise when its due and I provide constructive criticism when necessary. The FW changes hit about 8 of 10 points that I and many others asked for months ago. Yes, I'm a happy paying customer and I will thank and praise Team True Grit for it. // Matari Warrior // Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana

Seeth Mensch highland marines 61	Posted - 2013.12.04 17:03:00 - [171] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: so... AFKers? AFKers? It's called friendly fire. I don't see much AFK happening in FW. wont matter to them, they'll have a free suit on anyway. It'll only up the FF damage meter. My mass driving, RE 'sploding days are numbered.... Hi! Gosh, I've missed you...with every bullet, plasma shot, rail gun, and missile.
Daxxis KANNAH Distinct Covert Initiative 488	Posted - 2013.12.04 17:05:00 - [172] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: so... AFKers? AFKers? It's called friendly fire. I don't see much AFK happening in FW. How many will you kill
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 614	Posted - 2013.12.04 17:09:00 - [173] - Quote Seeth Mensch wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: so... AFKers? AFKers? It's called friendly fire. I don't see much AFK happening in FW. wont matter to them, they'll have a free suit on anyway. It'll only up the FF damage meter. My mass driving, RE 'sploding days are numbered.... Yeah, but since they're, you know, away they have a decent chance of getting kicked altogether if you just kill them once. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
Skilfer Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 43	Posted - 2013.12.04 17:25:00 - [174] - Quote In regards to the EVE killmails for DUST not displaying vehicle passengers: My suggestion is to just include the passengers as "Biomass" in the "Fittings and Content" section of the killmail. I feel like that would be a pretty simple and satisfying solution to this issue until a more detailed method is created (i.e. identifying each passenger's individual worth, etc.)
Ku Shala Exiled Veteran Elite 691	Posted - 2013.12.04 18:10:00 - [175] - Quote Is the time you are removed from faction for FF daily downtime or the sp cap reset downtime? First General of Exiled Veteran Elite Loyalty Is not always rewarded Caldari Loyalist
SLADE8U ROGUE SPADES 0	Posted - 2013.12.04 19:25:00 - [176] - Quote I like the impovements to factional warfare and the new weapons etc. However, I am wondering are you trying to phase out the Heavy in this game. The heavy or sentinel as you like to call it is far from being able to complete it's role of defender, guard(sentinel), or like the start of the game would show a force to be reckoned with. I don't see one new HMG weapon on your list for 1.7. As of late you have promoted scouts and free scout suits which leads me to believe you would prefer a bunch of jack rabbits running around with shotguns that poop grenades when you kill them. The HMG is no longer a true HEAVY MACHINE GUN. If you need proof watch a modded Gek take down a heavy at close range. Even in the present there isn't much of a chance of any assualt weapon (AR) cutting down someone in front of them with a multi-barrel HMG! If you think it has to do with my own personnal skills in the game then look around and you will see Heavies running with assualt weapons or the OP-scrambler rifles or even worse a heavy with a shotgun. As of late I have had to damage mod my proto HMG just to try and compete with the damage dealt out by other advanced weapons. Awhile back you took away the range of HMG and added red and yellow flames that come out of the barrel when firing at red targets(bad idea). You took away the range and now the blast radius of the forge gun making it half the weapon it used to be for infantry kills but you are soon going to increase the power of tanks? All of this nerfing to the heavie's weapons and new weapons for other roles leads me to believe the heavy is not an important role in the future of this game and you don't mind if HMG's are not used by Heavies with heavy weapon slots. A true sentinel of any objective should be feared as the name sentinel reflects but this is far from true and the options if you stay true to character and run heavy weapons is very shallow. Thank you, Slade
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1839	Posted - 2013.12.04 20:31:00 - [177] - Quote How will BPO salvage drop? If I have a dren or templar suit, and it gets 'rolled' as salvage. Do they just get a regular version? I'd hope we don't start multiplying BPOs.....
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 217	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:11:00 - [178] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: How will BPO salvage drop? If I have a dren or templar suit, and it gets 'rolled' as salvage. Do they just get a regular version? I'd hope we don't start multiplying BPOs..... It could just as easily be the aurum item, I've certainly salvaged Aurum gear from people. Don't see why suits shouldn't be included in that. . __ `/.)\ Nade \| Scan Attempt Prevented \| 31 mill SP \__/ 514 \| NFP Prime League Winner\| Longest Kill 588 Mtr`
Clips A'hoy The Generals General Tso's Alliance 95	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:13:00 - [179] - Quote Congratulations you just killed Minmatar Assault. I have two low slots and I have to fit a CPU Upgrade; it's mandatory. Now you nerfed shields, it takes me 10 seconds for my shields to kick in, now I have to wait what, 15-18 seconds? Like I don't die fast enough already. Give me a respec CCP so I can join the armor tankers in their armor tanking heaven. Getting hate mail by big corps makes my heart grow fonder.
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 217	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:18:00 - [180] - Quote Clips A'hoy wrote: Congratulations you just killed Minmatar Assault. I have two low slots and I have to fit a CPU Upgrade; it's mandatory. Now you nerfed shields, it takes me 10 seconds for my shields to kick in, now I have to wait what, 15-18 seconds? Like I don't die fast enough already. Give me a respec CCP so I can join the armor tankers in their armor tanking heaven. Where did you read shield were getting nerfed like that. . __ `/.)\ Nade \| Scan Attempt Prevented \| 31 mill SP \__/ 514 \| NFP Prime League Winner\| Longest Kill 588 Mtr`



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