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pa ck
G.L.O.R.Y
6
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Posted - 2013.12.03 23:20:00 -
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But why remove orbital in fraction warfare friendly fire should only count on squad members besides that everything else sounds good.
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2060
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Posted - 2013.12.03 23:28:00 -
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pa ck wrote:But why remove orbital in fraction warfare friendly fire should only count on squad members besides that everything else sounds good.
Warbarge strikes were always kind of a hack to get them going. Its supposed to be starships raining down that kind of fire.
// Matari Warrior // Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
920
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Posted - 2013.12.03 23:37:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:LOL, you obviously havent spent any time fighting for the Amarr. Unless we alone attract the dregs of mercdom somehow, there is no shortage of griefers/double agents in our warbarges. Quit sounding so pompous about slaves and you might raise the level of discourse.
Just like good science raises all boats, discussion with Amarr sinks all reason. Racist pigs. 
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
920
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Posted - 2013.12.03 23:45:00 -
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On thinking about this I believe it is a perfect solution.
FW used to be a good solution for several things. First one could be assured of getting into the beginning of a battle. That meant you weren't going to get shorted on ISK or SP. Missing even the first few minutes in a match and, even worse, winding up on the losing side means a significant reduced payout. FW was a good fix for that, although it did come at the cost of dealing with queue syncing squads from a corp. Gotta practice PC tactics somewhere.
Now there will be no ISK at all. Which goes together really well with the fact that getting into the beginning of a match is nearly as bad as getting into one for a pub match.
Are there any LP items defined as yet? I for one am not going to do FW until I find out what the rewards are. If they are similar to event rewards then there will be little incentive in working for trash. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
586
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Posted - 2013.12.04 00:07:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:As if I didn't have to worry enough about red Swarm Launchers, now Blue Swarm Launchers will eat me alive....yup way to kill tanks in FW....
In EVE Tking atleast requires some thoughts and planning, now all you have to do is spawn in and start forging friendlies. I hope this friendly damage threshold is very low.
Probably can't do much about FGs, or maybe even nades, but perhaps they can program it that swarms won't lock on to friendly vehicles? That's at least a start.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Amarr victor!
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Glass Zeraki
The Phoenix Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.12.04 00:18:00 -
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Great job CCP, you've blown my mind with everything coming in 1.7. Just being able to say 'specialist' and 'assualt rifle' in the same sentence makes me giddy :D |
Asirius Medaius
709
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Posted - 2013.12.04 00:23:00 -
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Damn you CCP!
You actually gave me something huge to keep me playing for in Dust 514. Now I have to find my wallet...
I can't wait to see all of the lack of reckless behavior due to the friendly fire as well...
Signature coming soonGäó.
[Level 9 Forum Warrior]
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen
D3LTA FORC3
1103
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Posted - 2013.12.04 00:27:00 -
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Many thanks to True Grit for all the hard work!
I'll post my thoughts on the changes here shortly, but for now I want to remind everyone that I have a Faction Warfare "Dustcussion" running on Skype on an ongoing basis for any of you that would like to join and chat about the new mechanics. That will be the quickest way to poke me for an opinion or to share an idea.
It's just text chat, no mics needed, and everyone here is welcome! My Skype name again is: Hans.Jagerblitzen Add me as a contact and I'll pull you into the channel. Thanks! |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
586
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Posted - 2013.12.04 00:35:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:LOL, you obviously havent spent any time fighting for the Amarr. Unless we alone attract the dregs of mercdom somehow, there is no shortage of griefers/double agents in our warbarges. Quit sounding so pompous about slaves and you might raise the level of discourse. Just like good science raises all boats, discussion with Amarr sinks all reason. Racist pigs.
Feh. Your "freedom" is a lie, hypocrite. Ask the Caldari how 'free' they felt in the Federation.
We are neither luddites nor cruel slavemasters. The Empress is a well-known reformer, and the house of Demonsbane has always provided our minmatar servants with clean quarters and generous rations.
Perhaps you should try fighting the Empire on even grounds without the use of double agents, if you are so sure of the superiority of your ideology.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Amarr victor!
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MrShooter01
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
341
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Posted - 2013.12.04 01:42:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:KalOfTheRathi wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:LOL, you obviously havent spent any time fighting for the Amarr. Unless we alone attract the dregs of mercdom somehow, there is no shortage of griefers/double agents in our warbarges. Quit sounding so pompous about slaves and you might raise the level of discourse. Just like good science raises all boats, discussion with Amarr sinks all reason. Racist pigs. Feh. Your "freedom" is a lie, hypocrite. Ask the Caldari how 'free' they felt in the Federation.
I liked the part where they nuked our home cities, conquered our home planet, and exiled the majority of our population to deep space in the name of freedom and democracy |
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
393
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Posted - 2013.12.04 01:43:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:Serious question...if i call an Orbital Strike in from my EVE partner and it splashes some blueberry not on coms with me am I getting punished for the team kill or lose standing? Does the EVE pilot have any repercussions as well? ps... Unfortunately I can't take advantage of the LP store since I run Caldari gear and my Corp is purely Gallente Alligned.  That said, really nice update! No the EVE pilot is not punished for friendly fire. They can only shoot where you tell them, so it's kind of your fault ;)
This pretty much tells me that I'm not going into FW without q-synching. |
Kigurosaka Laaksonen
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2013.12.04 02:01:00 -
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"You will gain 75 points of standing towards the corporation that you fought for..."
"Here's how your standings will appear on the end-of-match screen:"
[Picture shows "Standing Gained +50"]
What's the discrepancy? |
Mad Rambo
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2013.12.04 02:08:00 -
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thats a huge step in the right direction. great job!
But there is still no freaking way how to see where battles are happening from eve. This is the last major barrier why so few are trying this feature. I for example would just put tactical ammo in each of my pvp ships if there would be a chance of a random encounter where i could help doing orbitals for my faction. I don't want to keep the dust intel channels open and wait till it blinks and somebody tells that there is a match starting in 2h 15 jumps away from me. Its just annoying for both sides, the dust player who has to post it and the eve player. Add it to the ship scanner at the very least to see what is going on in system.
the next important step to fully integrate orbitals in the eve universe is to make ship fittings count. A empty destroyer with meta 0 guns should not have the same strike performance as a fully combat fitted high damage destroyer. Eve has tracking, dps etc.. i am sure you could find creative ways to make this count. (strike spread/hit damage etc). |
True Adamance
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
4509
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Posted - 2013.12.04 02:13:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:LOL, you obviously havent spent any time fighting for the Amarr. Unless we alone attract the dregs of mercdom somehow, there is no shortage of griefers/double agents in our warbarges. Quit sounding so pompous about slaves and you might raise the level of discourse. Just like good science raises all boats, discussion with Amarr sinks all reason. Racist pigs.
Are you trying to tell me that the Minmatar and Gallente aren't racist? Of course they are, they favour their people over all others.
In fact in any lore based discussion on these forums I have never seen more than a handful of player competently educated in lore enough to argue a point fairly.
Why do you assume Amarr are unreasonable, Faith is one thing, logic and reason are entirely different and not mutually exclusive.
As for slaves learn that the Amarr Holders are responsible for the fair treatment of any and all slaves under their authority, they are judged by a God that does not show mercy for those who defy his laws, and equally harsh law makers, the Speakers of Truth.
John is right, we do for some reason attract the dregs of mercdom, which is why I don't fight for the Empire right now.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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Eris Ernaga
State Patriots
861
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Posted - 2013.12.04 02:29:00 -
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It seems we have been getting some of the best content from Team True Grit
For Caldari and Amarr faction warfare join State Patriots and help us on the front.
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Eris Ernaga
State Patriots
861
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Posted - 2013.12.04 02:37:00 -
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Yeah it's embarrassing that I am still here True Adamance I griped with it.
For Caldari and Amarr faction warfare join State Patriots and help us on the front.
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captainIreland
Mcalpines Fusiliers
Covert Intervention
16
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Posted - 2013.12.04 02:56:00 -
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Thank for the early Christmas present CCP great work :) |
dustwaffle
Xer Cloud Consortium
710
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Posted - 2013.12.04 03:05:00 -
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Looks fantastic, can't wait to get my hands on 1.7!
Couple of questions:
1. Will LP gain be taxed? If so, can you buy faction items using the corp LP wallet, and are they transferable to players like ISK
2. Are corporation overall standings affected by individuals as in EVE?
3. What is the max team damage done before you're autokicked, is this a fixed amount or variable?
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Kaughst
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
74
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Posted - 2013.12.04 04:12:00 -
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Are we going to be able to deploy 16 people in a FW match? I did not find it on that post.
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
705
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Posted - 2013.12.04 04:14:00 -
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Could you add some wiggle room with the first 3 levels? You are going to see a lot of people getting banned because they arent use to tk in fw. Its going to be a real struggle trying to get out of those first few levels.
CALDARI MASTER RACE
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Ghural
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
170
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Posted - 2013.12.04 05:45:00 -
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The main issues for me regarding FW are
- Not having racial variants of suits/vehicles means you either buy something you don't want, or stockpile LPs until they appear at some magical far off date in the future..
- Difficult for EVE pilots to know where battles are taking place in order to provide orbital support. Perhaps the faction warfare map in EVE needs to able to show where dust battles are being spawned.
- The fact that friendly fire is on in these matches had better be made obvious in game - not everyone reads the forums/websites - please make a tutorial.
- It would be nice if there was a visual indication of a players standings in FW (rank badge or something) on their dropsuit.
- How are building sockets selected when maps are generated? Random? By owning race?
- A small detail. But it would be cool if there were flags or something similar on the buildings that indicated the current owner of the facility.
- Another possibility. Perhaps there should be a racially themed claim unit/building in the small sockets that indicate ownership. It could even spout propaganda that you can hear if you get close.
- Another point. If I am fighting for the Amarr, I should be deploying from an Amarr MCC. The warbarge should also be according to race.
- The side display screens in the Merc quarters could be utilized to keep players informed on the state of faction warfare. |
TheWee BabySeamus
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
48
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Posted - 2013.12.04 06:10:00 -
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Why no Heavy gear????? we only have 1 suit and 2 weapons to choose from and you can't even add something for us. FOR SHAME CCP....................FOR SHAME
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fawkuima juggalo
Eternal Beings
196
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Posted - 2013.12.04 06:13:00 -
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A BIG UPDATE JUST GOT BIGGER!
If you keep this promise, all is forgiven, we can be friends now
Thank you guys for this, this is one of the huge things needed for the development of this game. This adds a huge variation to the content presented to the public. It has restored my faith in promises being kept by the developers, and i hope you guys keep the ball rolling. Soon this game will beat out the attraction of the same lame fps that are put out on the market, and we will see a huge flow of players come in.
This update is a HUGE step in the right direction, LP and racial content are some of the final things needed to complete an OPEN PLAYER MARKET. Honestly after this, balancing of the content , and an OPEN PLAYER MARKET i'm satisfied, it really could be the best ONLINE FPS EVER. DUST 514 is already one of my favorite games keep it going guys, you might just make this MY NUMBER ONE GAME OF ALL TIME.
Dropship auto leveling and THE SOLUTION
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE SPADES
136
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Posted - 2013.12.04 06:30:00 -
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will factional warfare get its own game mode(s) at point?
idk if youre the guy for this, but here is my idea...
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1560824#post1560824 |
Ryme Intrinseca
The Rainbow Effect
306
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Posted - 2013.12.04 08:36:00 -
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Why does the devblog not mention TEAM DEPLOY? Surely CCP realize this is essential for any friendly fire enabled game mode? |
gandalgrey
Endless Hatred
93
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Posted - 2013.12.04 09:00:00 -
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Gallente for the win
Enjoy my logi love juice
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
Relentless Heroes Alliance
551
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Posted - 2013.12.04 09:29:00 -
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so... AFKers?
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Absolute Idiom II
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
903
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Posted - 2013.12.04 10:05:00 -
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I'm not convinced that the new FF mechanics address all 4 FF scenarios given the harsh penalty of 24 hr ban.
1) Griefing by intentional TKing
2) Griefing by partial damage to allies (e.g. via EMP grenades) leaving them vulnerable to enemy kills
3) Griefing by suiciding yourself (e.g. in front of an HMG or tank)
4) Collateral damage (i.e. accidental TKing)
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Heavenly Daughter
the Aurum Grinder and Company
217
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Posted - 2013.12.04 10:06:00 -
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Question about faction boosters,
If I choose to help a friend on a different faction (say Minmatar) and I have an Armarr booster active, will I get the booster payment even though it's not the minmatar ?.
If we don't earn anything the sale of these will fall drastically as most pople will ultimately play with friend and corp members NOT necessarily on the same race. !?
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steadyhand amarr
steadyhands independent mercenarys
2006
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Posted - 2013.12.04 10:08:00 -
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Ccp want to keep a small level of griefing in the system :-).
Also now hireing mercs for FW missions :-P
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
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