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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4283	Posted - 2013.12.03 16:05:00 - [61] - Quote Gabe Vello wrote: Cat Merc wrote: huh? You're talking absolute nonsense right now. I guess I rest my case on your reading skills But you see, I usually understand even the nonsense spewed on the forums daily. If I can't understand you, that means you explained yourself terribly. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Gabe Vello Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2013.12.03 16:07:00 - [62] - Quote Disagree
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4283	Posted - 2013.12.03 16:09:00 - [63] - Quote Gabe Vello wrote: Disagree Ok then Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 271	Posted - 2013.12.03 16:14:00 - [64] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: ...but surely everyone knows that the CPM have the power to fire any CCP developer at will. That they have the authority to demand that CCP to buy them a ticket to Shanghai whenever they want so that they can walk into the office and tell the devs what they need to do. That the CPM is directly in control of both the development strategy and the short term plans. That CPM members are selected because they have special technical knowledge that allows them to get twice as much performance out of the PS3 and the Internet as anyone else. That CPM membership grants the ability to read an almost legible forum post and translate it automatically into the source code file name and line number that locates the specific bug being referenced. Everyone knows that, right? Lol. I only spotted this now. Brilliant
Gabe Vello Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2013.12.03 16:16:00 - [65] - Quote Ok, time for me to disappear cat. It was a fun troll. Don't get me wrong my first post was real. I was laughing so hard I spotted with jenza's reply... how can one show proof when there is a NDA in the way? although I totaly get why you and cat get along since I have seen what you look like... total cat lady
BMSTUBBY 370	Posted - 2013.12.03 16:42:00 - [66] - Quote Because they where hand picked by CCP to work closely with CCP in establishing a voting system, working with teams regarding upcoming features, and generally serving a similar role to the EVE Online CSM. I am still waiting for them to just finish the first job they were supposed to do establishing a voting system, I want an elected CPM and not the monkeys on a string act that we currently have. Until then we get things like this from our CPM, Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1527848#post1527848 Dusters - MMO WhenGäó ? CCP - MMO SoonGäó .
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1299	Posted - 2013.12.03 16:46:00 - [67] - Quote Rahl Draak wrote: Any game that has these conversations is on life support. Name another game with a CPM/CSM. I support SP rollover.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1299	Posted - 2013.12.03 16:51:00 - [68] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: Because they where hand picked by CCP to work closely with CCP in establishing a voting system, working with teams regarding upcoming features, and generally serving a similar role to the EVE Online CSM. I am still waiting for them to just finish the first job they were supposed to do establishing a voting system, I want an elected CPM and not the monkeys on a string act that we currently have. Until then we get things like this from our CPM, Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1527848#post1527848 I really want to see a nomination/voting/election system too. But in all fairness the CPM has been pushing for this hard. We are currently waiting on CCP for the Charter, and until that is delivered nothing can happen. The ball is in CCP's court and has been for a long time. I support SP rollover.
R F Gyro Clones 4u 737	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:06:00 - [69] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: Because they where hand picked by CCP to work closely with CCP in establishing a voting system, working with teams regarding upcoming features, and generally serving a similar role to the EVE Online CSM. I am still waiting for them to just finish the first job they were supposed to do establishing a voting system, I want an elected CPM and not the monkeys on a string act that we currently have. This is the big problem. We didn't vote for them, so we don't feel responsible for their conduct in any way. That means if we don't like their conduct it is really easy to criticise it. Quote: Until then we get things like this from our CPM, Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1527848#post1527848 I completely fail to see the problem with this. Its a light troll of what is widely regarded as a very negative community. If we voted in our CSM we'd still see this kind of thing, because it is funny. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Sentient Archon 1357	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:26:00 - [70] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Gabe Vello wrote: I'm not happy with the CPMs because they voice their own concerns of the game over the main concerns from the player base. Its that simple. The current people in the CPM all have a bias in some way, shape, or form in regards to their needs for the game, this leaves the player base to (quoting a friend) " get poop'd on" because the player base concerns are second shelf to the CPMs top shelf issues. Just my opinion I would love for you to give examples an proof of this? One word;- game breaking AWOXING. Remember that Jenzy Baby? The only troll to successfully troll CCP.

jenza aranda BetaMax. 2329	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:25:00 - [71] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: jenza aranda wrote: Gabe Vello wrote: I'm not happy with the CPMs because they voice their own concerns of the game over the main concerns from the player base. Its that simple. The current people in the CPM all have a bias in some way, shape, or form in regards to their needs for the game, this leaves the player base to (quoting a friend) " get poop'd on" because the player base concerns are second shelf to the CPMs top shelf issues. Just my opinion I would love for you to give examples an proof of this? One word;- game breaking AWOXING. Remember that Jenzy Baby? please remind me in how that was exploiting CPM knowege only for myself. Also, sorry steadyhand amarr, but please stop talking out your arse. I have said hundreds on times now, that when i first awoxed I reported it to CCP saying that while it needed to still be possible in the game, but it was too easy in its form at the time. How many times do i have to explain this?! Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3205	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:30:00 - [72] - Quote Da CPM can mov heven n' erth. Fix dis game playas n' stop pushin yo' own shellfish agendos That made my head hurt
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1836	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:31:00 - [73] - Quote Kain and Hans are Cool, Jenza is meh, never played with IWS or Nova Knife but I've Killed Nova Level 1 Forum Warrior I'm a bittervet, if I seem like a douche it's because of your stupidity
Happy Violentime L0ST PR0FITS 147	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:31:00 - [74] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Gabe Vello wrote: I'm not happy with the CPMs because they voice their own concerns of the game over the main concerns from the player base. Its that simple. The current people in the CPM all have a bias in some way, shape, or form in regards to their needs for the game, this leaves the player base to (quoting a friend) " get poop'd on" because the player base concerns are second shelf to the CPMs top shelf issues. Just my opinion I would love for you to give examples an proof of this? How about server control in PC matches?
jenza aranda BetaMax. 2329	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:33:00 - [75] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: jenza aranda wrote: Gabe Vello wrote: I'm not happy with the CPMs because they voice their own concerns of the game over the main concerns from the player base. Its that simple. The current people in the CPM all have a bias in some way, shape, or form in regards to their needs for the game, this leaves the player base to (quoting a friend) " get poop'd on" because the player base concerns are second shelf to the CPMs top shelf issues. Just my opinion I would love for you to give examples an proof of this? How about server control in PC matches? I can confirm i never did this. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3205	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:34:00 - [76] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Kain and Hans are Cool, Jenza is meh, never played with IWS or Nova Knife but I've Killed Nova I've been in multiple games with every single last one of them except for IWS . As much as I play this game it's actually common to run into some of these guys, however with IWS I have never seen him in combat and I only have heard his voice once. He might play on alts, idk.
Happy Violentime L0ST PR0FITS 147	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:34:00 - [77] - Quote At least 1 of them has been AFK from Dust for at least half of their tenure, only popping up again now that 'Fanfest' and a freebie in Iceland is in sight..
Happy Violentime L0ST PR0FITS 147	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:36:00 - [78] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Happy Violentime wrote: jenza aranda wrote: Gabe Vello wrote: I'm not happy with the CPMs because they voice their own concerns of the game over the main concerns from the player base. Its that simple. The current people in the CPM all have a bias in some way, shape, or form in regards to their needs for the game, this leaves the player base to (quoting a friend) " get poop'd on" because the player base concerns are second shelf to the CPMs top shelf issues. Just my opinion I would love for you to give examples an proof of this? How about server control in PC matches? I can confirm i never did this. So who on the CPM did?
jenza aranda BetaMax. 2329	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:37:00 - [79] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: jenza aranda wrote: Happy Violentime wrote: jenza aranda wrote: Gabe Vello wrote: I'm not happy with the CPMs because they voice their own concerns of the game over the main concerns from the player base. Its that simple. The current people in the CPM all have a bias in some way, shape, or form in regards to their needs for the game, this leaves the player base to (quoting a friend) " get poop'd on" because the player base concerns are second shelf to the CPMs top shelf issues. Just my opinion I would love for you to give examples an proof of this? How about server control in PC matches? I can confirm i never did this. So who on the CPM did? to my knowledge, no one. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
Rowdy Railgunner Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 223	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:41:00 - [80] - Quote They are not even CPMs. They are puppets that CCP put into place with the specific task of preparing an organized vote for that actual first CPM. Most of them are EVE players, not FPS players, and all of them are horrible at this game. They understand very little of the actual mechanics of the game and have no solid ideas about anything other than how to troll GD. Hans is cool though, but he is still horrible at the game.

jenza aranda BetaMax. 2330	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:55:00 - [81] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: They are not even CPMs. They are puppets that CCP put into place with the specific task of preparing an organized vote for that actual first CPM. Most of them are EVE players, not FPS players, and all of them are horrible at this game. They understand very little of the actual mechanics of the game and have no solid ideas about anything other than how to troll GD. Hans is cool though, but he is still horrible at the game. confirming we are all terribad and know nothing about the game and that we understand nothing and that all we do is sing praise of CCP /sarcasm seriously though, take off the tin foil hat. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
Rowdy Railgunner Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 223	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:58:00 - [82] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: They are not even CPMs. They are puppets that CCP put into place with the specific task of preparing an organized vote for that actual first CPM. Most of them are EVE players, not FPS players, and all of them are horrible at this game. They understand very little of the actual mechanics of the game and have no solid ideas about anything other than how to troll GD. Hans is cool though, but he is still horrible at the game. confirming we are all terribad and know nothing about the game and that we understand nothing and that all we do is sing praise of CCP /sarcasm seriously though, take off the tin foil hat. If you are not singing the praise of CCP then you are pushing to have changes made strictly for advancing your own little group of friends. Jenza you suck, your corp sucks and there was maybe one idea that I have ever read from you that would actually make the game better. Just go back into hiding, DUST is better off without you.
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 555	Posted - 2013.12.03 23:02:00 - [83] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: I like the CPM. Especially jenza I mean I like jenza a lot. Really lot. You need to get out more.
R F Gyro Clones 4u 743	Posted - 2013.12.03 23:05:00 - [84] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: How about server control in PC matches? What is this? RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5747	Posted - 2013.12.03 23:06:00 - [85] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: jenza aranda wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: They are not even CPMs. They are puppets that CCP put into place with the specific task of preparing an organized vote for that actual first CPM. Most of them are EVE players, not FPS players, and all of them are horrible at this game. They understand very little of the actual mechanics of the game and have no solid ideas about anything other than how to troll GD. Hans is cool though, but he is still horrible at the game. confirming we are all terribad and know nothing about the game and that we understand nothing and that all we do is sing praise of CCP /sarcasm seriously though, take off the tin foil hat. If you are not singing the praise of CCP then you are pushing to have changes made strictly for advancing your own little group of friends. Jenza you suck, your corp sucks and there was maybe one idea that I have ever read from you that would actually make the game better. Just go back into hiding, DUST is better off without you. bashes head against keyboard in mindless tinfoil rage Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Heinrich Jagerblitzen D3LTA FORC3 1103	Posted - 2013.12.04 00:41:00 - [86] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: I NEVER see them ingame. NEVER. I'm always in channel "Drunk Night" whenever I'm logged in, though I've recently added the "LFSquad" channel back to my open list as well, since its an easy one for people to find. Anyways, join other channel, you can see when I'm online, and send me a squad invite! If you want an easier way - just send me a mail with your timezone or a night you'd like to play, and what channel I can find you in (or that you can find me in). Either way I'm pretty flexible and love squadding with new folks I haven't met before. With several thousand players on at any given time, the chances of you find us randomly are statistically slim - and your chances of seeing (or playing alongside) a CPM go up to 100% if you just poke one of us.
DiGreatDestroyer Grupo de Asalto Chacal RISE of LEGION 34	Posted - 2013.12.04 16:33:00 - [87] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: They are not even CPMs. They are puppets that CCP put into place with the specific task of preparing an organized vote for that actual first CPM. Most of them are EVE players, not FPS players, and all of them are horrible at this game. They understand very little of the actual mechanics of the game and have no solid ideas about anything other than how to troll GD. Hans is cool though, but he is still horrible at the game. confirming we are all terribad and know nothing about the game and that we understand nothing and that all we do is sing praise of CCP /sarcasm seriously though, take off the tin foil hat. I think you misunderstand the role of the CPM, Rowdy Even the CPM members do You guys have one goddamn job: See what the community wants, and make CCP know. Thats all. I could care less if you go 0/30 every game you play. People hate the CPM because they dont do what they are supposed to do. Instead they tease the community, refute the ideas they should be delivering, and spend most of their posts defending CCP
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 776	Posted - 2013.12.04 16:44:00 - [88] - Quote DiGreatDestroyer wrote: You guys have one goddamn job: See what the community wants, and make CCP know. Thats all. I could care less if you go 0/30 every game you play. People hate the CPM because they dont do what they are supposed to do. Instead they tease the community, refute the ideas they should be delivering, and spend most of their posts defending CCP They shouldn't be directly delivering ideas. There are far too many posted here and only a small proportion of them are good. Some ideas that appear to get a lot of support (the forums are still only a small slice of the player base) are not guaranteed to be effective. Also, the Devs can and do check the forums directly themselves. The CPM should do two things. First, they should read the community and find out what the community is dissatisfied with and figure out why. From there, they should inform CCP what the source of the dissatisfaction is and perhaps offer suggestions (their own and other well thought out and written ones). Their second purpose is to judge CCP's plans as an outsider and be a sanity check. Since these discussions occur behind close doors, there is no way quick and efficient way for the community to know how effective the CPM actually are. !
virgindestroyer7 Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 500	Posted - 2014.02.26 21:05:00 - [89] - Quote what the.. Where is this sense of entitlement coming from? "i'm a dust player, hear me QQ" hahahaha CPM members are all over the world, in different time zones. They also on top of having jobs and mates and life have random ass meetings with CCP at like 4 am to go through issues you guys talk to them about on the forums, in games, on twitter, in skype conversations. The thing is that some of these suggestions take TIME to develop. they take TIME to implement. then after CCP and them work through it, CCP has THEIR side of it to do. Have you EVER perused these forums? There are some REALLY great discussions and ideas and feedback, but alot of the time YOUR SPECIFIC idea might not get through because theres 424385435 respec or 3924893745 TANK OP or 4874533 NERF/BUFF this threads going on. The rate of change and updates this game has gone through is unreal. Man oh man this game is changing! It's working better. The answers I'm looking for are showing up and the ones I don't have I'm sure will come WITH THE CPM's help. Get off their back, yo. For real. Have you ever actually tried to see if they were playing? I mean, if you've got that much of a hard on to "see" them in game, message them. Tweet them. Whatever. I'm sure if you ask them to they would squad with you if you're online at the same time.
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 722	Posted - 2014.02.26 21:07:00 - [90] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Why the hate towards the CPM? they dont do nothing? Nemo me impune lacessit



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