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Aisha Ctarl
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
1921
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Posted - 2013.11.30 03:32:00 -
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Simply post if you do or do not protostomp. There are no maybes or sometimes, it's black and white, either you do or don't. Also state the reason why you do or why you do not.
I'd really like to see the arguments and reasons for both sides of this coin so try and keep it civil.
I do protostomp.
Reason - I worked my ass off to get the skills to obtain my proto weapons, suits, and modules so I'm sure as hell going to use them. I also used BPO's frequently in order to accrue enough ISK to run my proto loadouts.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
607
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Posted - 2013.11.30 03:35:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Simply post if you do or do not protostomp. There are no maybes or sometimes, it's black and white, either you do or don't. Also state the reason why you do or why you do not.
I'd really like to see the arguments and reasons for both sides of this coin so try and keep it civil.
I do protostomp.
Reason - I worked my ass off to get the skills to obtain my proto weapons, suits, and modules so I'm sure as hell going to use them. I also used BPO's frequently in order to accrue enough ISK to run my proto loadouts.
I do and I dont
proto gk.0 scout so i'm still easy to kill (average of 3-9 deaths)
I can pull the same kills in a standard
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
3100
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Posted - 2013.11.30 03:37:00 -
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Me and my buddies decided to use only basic gear for a while and still stomped the team on "proto" levels.
We have also decimated a enemy team with 11 Q'd up people running ADV and PRO against a 5 man squad of Synergy and randoms. We ended up winning.
Player stupidity and or apathy to win is a major factor in getting pubstomped.
Our bluedots may have been random but they actually pushed and held objectives while we took them and without that we wouldn't have won the match.
P.S. Someone sent me mail saying we were tryhards that match....oh the hypocrisy. |
Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
377
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Posted - 2013.11.30 03:38:00 -
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I do not protostomp. I use my basic or advanced suit in pubs and FW, and my proto fits in PC. Why run proto when I can still finish in the top 5 on the leaderboard, and make 3 times as much ISK ? I also like the challenge of killing proto suits with basic and advanced gear. I'm also a cheap ass, so that might be a factor as well, lol.
If you win the rat race, you're still a rat.
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GET ATMESON
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
178
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Posted - 2013.11.30 03:39:00 -
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If i see proto it comes out. If i know "big name corps" are on the other side i pull out the proto and stomp them into dust.
Heavys only have 2 heavy guns. Please dont turn the NERF bat on them. Give heavys more suits or guns please :D
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
8145
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Posted - 2013.11.30 03:42:00 -
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Typically I'm in advanced fits or BPO fits, though every so often if I'm running around with OSG I'll join in on the fun for a few matches. Other than that I'm flying my Incubus and losing ISK because I just fly for the thrill, the kills are just a bonus. FUUU PROTO SWAAARMS!! Stupid area denial weapons. I can't wait for that lock on range nerf.
Sadly the swarms are the least of our worries, 1.7 railguns do not look promising when it comes to our lifespan
Just gonna have to let it all play out.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
7262
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Posted - 2013.11.30 03:43:00 -
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I don't.
Why would I, or anyone else need to anyway? We can all do well with just STD/ADV gear, no need go overboard.
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1849
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Posted - 2013.11.30 03:45:00 -
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I don't proto stomp.
Reason: player retention. I've had people quit the game while I was squadding with them. I don't want to see it happen on a daily basis.
And
I can do equally as good in an adv suit so it makes no difference to me
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
Relentless Heroes Alliance
523
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Posted - 2013.11.30 03:46:00 -
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I'm not allowed to - court order.
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Doc Noah
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
921
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Posted - 2013.11.30 03:51:00 -
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No, a one sided games are boring as ****. |
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Baal Roo
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2780
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Posted - 2013.11.30 03:52:00 -
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I don't have any protogear, so nope. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
937
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Posted - 2013.11.30 03:59:00 -
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I don't. it's for teams that can't win with just teamwork. |
Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
278
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Posted - 2013.11.30 04:03:00 -
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No.
Although ever since I unlocked my assault ak.0 couple days ago I've been testing it .. legit reason, right?  |
noob cavman
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
Renegade Alliance
227
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Posted - 2013.11.30 04:03:00 -
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Stomped and been stomped by proto but been running advance minja scout and ganja scout for awhile and loving it 
skill/tactics and the fire to win over suit
.... bit passive skills help alot 
My view on knives..... I DON'T KNOW WHAT IM DOING @_@
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
3105
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Posted - 2013.11.30 04:04:00 -
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low genius wrote:I don't. it's for teams that can't win with just teamwork.
I love this excuse, it's so cute.
The team that always wins is the team that is organized.
Experienced players aren't dumb, playing solo is a death sentence and we all know it. Your best bet is squading up with non idiots.
but lets face it, a good majority of the DUST player base is lacking common sense wanting to think this is a casual shooter promoting instant gratification over earned rewards. |
Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
643
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Posted - 2013.11.30 04:04:00 -
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I do because I don't want a challenge.
I don't because I want a challenge.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
510
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Posted - 2013.11.30 04:08:00 -
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I do not, for 2 reasons.
1) I'd be a complete hypocrite if I did.
2) Player retention (the most important reason). I think it's important for the future of the game to give noobs a fighting chance. For those who say, bleh, it's Scotty's fault, fix matchmaking and the academy. I'm with you in the academy, but as for matchmaking, there just are not enough people on certain times of the day even if the matchmaking was great. You're just rationalizing.
There are plenty of things that make it hard to be a noob, whether it be the low TTK, the fact that you are or are not in a squad, passive bonuses, absurdly accurate "short range" plasma rifles, etc. All true but you still make the decision to go all proto, most of the other things you have no control over, or, like already mentioned, it would be foolish to do, like never being in a squad. If, like the OP, you have another reason you feel it's ok to run it, that's cool, but give that reason, don't blame it on game mechanics, that's a cop out.
So, long story short, ADV or lower for pubs, proto everywhere else if needed seems a good policy and that's what I do. I might bring it out if I'm up against a full proto team in a pub, I rarely have, but technically that's not protostomping. Probably be too expensive to be worth it, being from a smaller corp I don't have big fat PC farms to get ISK from.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Amarr victor!
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DEZKA DIABLO
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
89
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Posted - 2013.11.30 04:22:00 -
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I'm a scout so I don't think it counts |
Kaughst
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
60
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Posted - 2013.11.30 04:28:00 -
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In eve terms there is basically no limit to running a prototype fit, there is only suppose to be the cost factor involved since the saying goes 'don't fly what you can not afford to loose'. With the advent of manufacturing prototype gear will get more expensive as CCP will set the cost high on these kinds of items. It's almost better to run it now than to have to deal with that later. Nonetheless...I ran proto weapons in the first of the open beta, but I didn't need to run proto suits because without core skills all the way up your proto modules on your proto gear are useless PG/CPU eaters....Now I have all my core skills up, my proto suits, weps thanks to hitting the cap every week ,since SP could be accrued, I have been able run my fit to 100 percent efficiency since around the start of uprising and have a full understanding of what my suit is capable of...it's lovely.
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
361
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Posted - 2013.11.30 04:30:00 -
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Who the **** cares about proto stomping. If you can afford it - use it. It's not anyones fault that CCP can't design any modes to put a max meta level on gear to deploy with so new guys get stomped. It's also not our fault we were here on day 1 prepared to be awesome while everyone else was out having a 'life'
SCREW YOU LIFE I MAKE MY OWN CHOCOLATE.
*chugs more vodka*
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Canari Elphus
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1063
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Posted - 2013.11.30 04:32:00 -
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I run a 29k fit for pubs. I have only used Proto for the Quafe event and will be back to money among fits at the end. The difference between losing one pub fit and a Proto is 100k so I really don't see the need. Would rather pocket the difference.
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Oswald Rehnquist
748
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Posted - 2013.11.30 04:33:00 -
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No, I have only used the dragonfly scout bpo as a suit.
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Minako Nakajima
Vortex State Empire
Dark Taboo
47
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Posted - 2013.11.30 04:35:00 -
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Nope, i prefer a challenge so I stick with ADV Dropsuits and equipment.
I use Proto AR sometimes though... not sure if that counts as Protostomping.
"Looks can kill." // Terminally Insane
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
937
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Posted - 2013.11.30 04:45:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:low genius wrote:I don't. it's for teams that can't win with just teamwork. I love this excuse, it's so cute. The team that always wins is the team that is organized. Experienced players aren't dumb, playing solo is a death sentence and we all know it. Your best bet is squading up with non idiots. but lets face it, a good majority of the DUST player base is lacking common sense wanting to think this is a casual shooter promoting instant gratification over earned rewards.
did anybody follow that? |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
646
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Posted - 2013.11.30 04:56:00 -
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We try not to, the Wolves are currently having our own event . Its Murder the Weak Week. We want those quafe suits. As a rule tho we would rather pull our guys back and let the reds come out and hack stuff. Its usually easy enough to take it back. At least the new guys get some sense of what dust can be. Hate to play the same dough bags over and over. We need new guys who enjoy the game a bit. We also host militia stomps, its too fun. |
Rannici
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
106
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Posted - 2013.11.30 04:58:00 -
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...i have a method to my pub matches.
i start the match out in a protosuit equipped with 8 drop uplinks.
run around, throw them down, get a sense of what the other team is doing.
... hopefully change out of it before dying.
then the game becomes something of a weapons escalation for me, akin to the intro of worms 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV5AFxEnuBo
oh, you're playing with that? then i'll use ...
x, y, z.
then, if i'm pissed off, enough or if there is just generally no threat whatsoever in sight on the other team,
i'll pull out my protosuits and stomp face with my freedom mass driver.
this is on both extremes of, losing and winning.
when losing, i'll stake out a small piece of turf that i'll call my own, and be like,
'*****! ah hell no, you ain't gettin' up in here cracker ass.'
most matches though i'm just japanese kamikaziing tanks with my wyrkomi swarm launcher. derp.
i rarely squad, because i want to cap as fast as possible.
squadding is for after i've capped, when i just want to protostomp for kicks.
so, yes, i protostomp. while capping though, i'm all business. |
Jane Madson
DIRTY LAUNDRY 514
184
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Posted - 2013.11.30 04:59:00 -
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Does a proto hmg count. Lol
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1371
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Posted - 2013.11.30 05:02:00 -
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No
I don't need the PRO crutch to win.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
1429
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Posted - 2013.11.30 05:05:00 -
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Sometimes, usually when the enemy is being a ***** by being a full protostomp squad. Otherwise I use bpo or andvanced suits.
"HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete."
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
595
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Posted - 2013.11.30 05:13:00 -
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i use protos only because i cant lose money despite using strictly proto.
however i run in squads to proto stomp because if i run solo i'll just get thrown in w/ losing scrubs 90% of the time so why bother playing the garbage matchmaking roulette?
i proto stomp so im not stomped with scrubs- nyain sans watch each others back, makes it hard to accept playing solo w/ trash blueberries when ur used to great squads like nyains. |
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
1429
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Posted - 2013.11.30 05:13:00 -
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Jane Madson wrote:Does a proto hmg count. Lol
No 
"HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete."
GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
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Heavy Salvo
Fatal Absolution
103
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Posted - 2013.11.30 05:17:00 -
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I do whatever the hell I feel like....cause its a goddamn pub, lately alot of landing on people with the finely tuned miltia dropships :3
A salute, to all the toy soldiers left to melt in the sun by those who would only dream of conquest.
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agent caron
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2013.11.30 05:20:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Who the **** cares about proto stomping. If you can afford it - use it. It's not anyones fault that CCP can't design any modes to put a max meta level on gear to deploy with so new guys get stomped. It's also not our fault we were here on day 1 prepared to be awesome while everyone else was out having a 'life'
SCREW YOU LIFE I MAKE MY OWN CHOCOLATE.
*chugs more vodka*
its people like you that make me hate prototype gear |
agent caron
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2013.11.30 05:22:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:No
I don't need the PRO crutch to win.
couldn't say it better myself |
GRIM GEAR
PredaKonZ
89
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Posted - 2013.11.30 05:31:00 -
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If proto scout suits do not count as stomping then no! i do not proto stomp
It's a bird!
No it's a plane!
Never mind it's just my shotgun in your face!
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Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
367
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Posted - 2013.11.30 07:49:00 -
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I don't
Reason, can't afford to run proto suits with all the dropships I buy.
Question, does running a python with the best smods available and prototype missiles count as protostomping? I don't think it does, bit that's up to you.
If so then I suppose I do.
Reason, the assault dropship has much better handing which I find indespenseable in almost all combat situations. Although it has less seats for transporting it makes up for it by giving my gunners higher damage for better covering fire. The pilot gun is also useful for covering my squad if the objective requires more than 2-3 mercs, I can also help with DPs against tanks and other dropships. |
4447
Resolution XIII
877
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Posted - 2013.11.30 07:52:00 -
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It's funny, because all the player that people think are good, proto stomp
Troll, For lifeGǪ But maybe a dragon, uh a bigger dragon.
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
371
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Posted - 2013.11.30 07:57:00 -
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agent caron wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Who the **** cares about proto stomping. If you can afford it - use it. It's not anyones fault that CCP can't design any modes to put a max meta level on gear to deploy with so new guys get stomped. It's also not our fault we were here on day 1 prepared to be awesome while everyone else was out having a 'life'
SCREW YOU LIFE I MAKE MY OWN CHOCOLATE.
*chugs more vodka* its people like you that make me hate prototype gear
And it's people like you that make me question humanity. Why are you blaming people for using there best gear and not CCP for allowing it to happen?
Do you see level 30's in WoW PvPing in arena or battlegrounds vs 80+?
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1424
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Posted - 2013.11.30 08:07:00 -
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Solo - No. It's a futile waste.
Squadded, against other Protos or decent Corps - Oh **** Yeah. Because that's what they're there for.
Cheeseburgers.
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Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A
Covert Intervention
504
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Posted - 2013.11.30 08:11:00 -
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I our corporation, we are trying to make squads with only adv gear (Saves us money aswell ), with orders to use PROTO only when being Protostomped
A DUST BRASIL S.A precisa de você ! Junte-se a nós !
Hey CCP, give me PvE!
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
781
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Posted - 2013.11.30 10:31:00 -
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No way do I protostomp. I run STD gear 99% of the time, even in FW. 1% ADV. And it's all scout all the time, baby. You can take that and put it in your pipe and smoke it.
Sometimes I get rolled, and sometimes I roll, but ALL the times I feel like a badass.
And it's good for the newbs, who I have compassion for. And it's good for my ISK, and it's good training, and it gives me a leg to stand on when I give proto stompers crap for being try-hard, chicken pansies. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
2524
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Posted - 2013.11.30 10:35:00 -
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Yes.
Proto scout counts right?
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 2
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Eversor Beercase
Beer For Evil Mercs
117
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Posted - 2013.11.30 10:42:00 -
[43] - Quote
I don't own protosuits and even if I did ADV is good enough. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
1115
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Posted - 2013.11.30 10:46:00 -
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Despite I can afford full proto, I don't.
Reason - I really love to kill people with inferior grade gear/dropsuits.
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Import Beercase
Beer For Evil Mercs
81
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Posted - 2013.11.30 10:48:00 -
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Its more fun with std/adv gear so no.
"If at first you don't succeed, mccdiving is not for you."
Snowflake in hell those are my odds in ambush
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
3175
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Posted - 2013.11.30 10:49:00 -
[46] - Quote
I do because it gives CCP an incentive to actually make a matchmaking system if they see that most people that first start playing leave right away
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
5623
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Posted - 2013.11.30 10:56:00 -
[47] - Quote
I do.
I mostly run solo, so I take all the advantages I can get against squads.
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Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
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straya fox
Sad Panda Solutions
102
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Posted - 2013.11.30 10:56:00 -
[48] - Quote
DJINN Marauder wrote:I do because it gives CCP an incentive to actually make a matchmaking system if they see that most people that first start playing leave right away
Very noble of you. |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
781
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Posted - 2013.11.30 10:57:00 -
[49] - Quote
I'm not sure using a proto scout suit counts as stomping there, Sinboto. 5 slots as opposed to 7,8 or 9 for medium frame users? Drastically Less CPU/PG. Less health..... Minimal speed bonus..... eh, up to you guys; I wouldn't know.
I got proto for the passive skill bonus and the swank pink dropsuit. |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
526
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Posted - 2013.11.30 11:02:00 -
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I run proto scout, because I have to, just to be competitive. I run ADV suits/gear on my alts, cuz its more fun stomping NFSounds et. Al. in ADV gear when they are all in proto.
GôêGÆ+GÆ+GƦ - Bringing the dakka
[The whiny Scout]
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Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
241
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Posted - 2013.11.30 11:38:00 -
[51] - Quote
Never will you see me wearing a proto suit, I can't bare to lose more isk than I earn in a match, I'm a bit ocd about it, in fact I can't remember the last time I used anything other than a starter fit with a basic assault rifle and a few advanced modules added, there's so much more satisfaction in coming top 3 on the scoreboard with a positive isk pay out having only worn a 10 thousand isk suit. |
ovary obliterator
Red Star.
EoN.
42
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Posted - 2013.11.30 11:39:00 -
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with the exception of the last week for the event 80% of my suits are under 20k (my main suit around 4k) i have proto... and occasionally whip it out to show off to all the fresh young newberries but normally i like to keep it in my pa... ahem warbarge. |
Scheherazade VII
210
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Posted - 2013.11.30 11:50:00 -
[53] - Quote
Lol I love how when threads like this are made suddenly everyone commenting is the best player in the game! |
True Adamance
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
4448
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Posted - 2013.11.30 11:58:00 -
[54] - Quote
I just bought a couple of different Aurum fits to see which I should skill into.
Proto Assault Amarr
or
Proto Tank Turrets.
Anyone want to proto stomp let me know.
That Ak.0 and BloodGrail Imperial ScR and a potent combo that has given me the HP lee way, and damage potential to let me slip back into ScR like I used to use.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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Terra Thesis
HDYLTA
Defiant Legacy
365
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Posted - 2013.11.30 12:49:00 -
[55] - Quote
i don't. although i don't mind if others do. in fact, i wish they would introduce another tier of gear. still too many people running around with too much money.
HDYLTA - Freedom Delivered
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Shattered Mirage
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
361
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Posted - 2013.11.30 13:22:00 -
[56] - Quote
Yes. Simply because I feel like trolling the newberries.
There are no facts, only interpretations.
I am a monument to all your sins
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J0hlss0n
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
42
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Posted - 2013.11.30 13:37:00 -
[57] - Quote
No, I very rarely use anything above advanced for pubs, that goes for modules even. I might bring out a Proto Forge for special moments but thats about the only proto stuff I use for pubs.
Reason - I want to save up money, I wasnt that involved in PC (so I dont sit on all that free cash many have) due to the huge amount of lag and disconnects I get and I really like the advanced stuff the heavy class got. |
Gorra Snell
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
281
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Posted - 2013.11.30 13:41:00 -
[58] - Quote
No - I rarely squad up (which seems like a prereq), and I haven't bothered to skill into any PRO suits...I buy a few of the aurum equivalents on occasion for funsies, but I generally still solo with them.
RDVs are a failed experiment - can't we just remove them from the game?
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Sky Kage
Immortal Guides
335
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Posted - 2013.11.30 13:53:00 -
[59] - Quote
I don't and won't go past STD suits till i get my CPU/PG skills maxed out first anyway.
so no, i dont proto stomp.
I die alot AND have fun... Who knew?
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Scheherazade VII
212
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Posted - 2013.11.30 13:58:00 -
[60] - Quote
if you use a heavy with a duvolle it kind of feels like proto-stomping
advanced amarr heavy, duvole, 2 damage mods, 1 plate, one repairer. still around 1300hp with the right upgrades.
or no damage mods, just shield extenders, no repairer, just a plate and you have 1500+hp. |
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
263
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Posted - 2013.11.30 14:19:00 -
[61] - Quote
I believe it comes down to meeting the needs with equipment resources. There are people who run proto who have no idea how to run it and people who absolutely abuse it to death.
That being said, I very rarely run my proto gear at all. Too many good players in basic and adv fits with proper skill placement can wipe proto out very quickly. I figured out a few tricks to suit fitting and rock my blueprint fits and standard gear.
If a full squad of full proto takes the field and your guys don't have the resources to meet the need, grab your free or cheap gear and sniper fits and cost them money. Unfortunately this is the game we are faced with right now and some just need to fuel thier ego or kd ratio, that's fine, they can play however they want to make themselves feel good. It's what the rest on the receiving end do to smartly combat this. Remember, take those who protostomp and put them in basic gear, 90% of the time the player who runs standard all the time will win, being familliar with your fit and not relying on it will win out in the end.
CEO
Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"
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Joel II X
AHPA
244
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Posted - 2013.11.30 14:22:00 -
[62] - Quote
I don't because I can't. Yes, I have a Duvolle of my own,but I only use it when my team is getting crushed. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2385
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Posted - 2013.11.30 14:35:00 -
[63] - Quote
I only protostomp when I'm in the right kind of battle, map & squad.
Beyond that I just spam basic fits and rake in the isk.
No.
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Ridire Greine
151
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Posted - 2013.11.30 14:38:00 -
[64] - Quote
I'm always using the Scout mk.0.
Dont think I'd consider it Protostomping. Since the only benefit I get over most MLT suits is an increased strafe speed, with similar/slightly more HP.
Property of Knight SoiaireGäó
Onikanabo Brigade
[VGTG]
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Dengru
Fatal Absolution
181
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Posted - 2013.11.30 14:49:00 -
[65] - Quote
I don't understand why killing a Proto suit in adv/std gear is worth something. If you're using an ar or scrambler you don't need a Proto suit to kill other players in pubs.
In previous build My friend, on an alt with no sp allocated, 17/3 against protos relying on strafing.
In this build, where you can point at anything and kill it in2 seconds irregardless of what tier of weapon you are using, it's not impressive to kill protos.. Also most of you have your passives leveled. Circle jerks like this are so sad.
(>^_^)><(^.^<)
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Heavy Salvo
Fatal Absolution
105
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Posted - 2013.11.30 19:53:00 -
[66] - Quote
*Holds bag of popcorn under thread* MOAR TEARS! ma buttah needs some salt, kthx.
A salute, to all the toy soldiers left to melt in the sun by those who would only dream of conquest.
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lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
Top Men.
236
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Posted - 2013.11.30 20:20:00 -
[67] - Quote
I field the equipment I need to win the battle. |
Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
224
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Posted - 2013.11.30 20:24:00 -
[68] - Quote
Depends on how i feel. sometimes i'll run my full proto and others i'll run anything right down to my recruiter bpos and right back up to proto with my krin. each game is diff. i don't waste suits for the sake of it. |
axis alpha
Red Star.
EoN.
84
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Posted - 2013.11.30 20:42:00 -
[69] - Quote
The last two weeks I've been running bpo militia everything and a basic scrambler to test this "omg either you have proto or u are doomed" crap and i same results as me in my proto cko I can still take on two enemyes and walk away alive. AND I'M MAKING MILLIONS A DAY. Lol
The best part of waking up,
is whiskey in my cuuuuup!
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
252
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Posted - 2013.11.30 20:44:00 -
[70] - Quote
[quote=Sgt Kirk]Me and my buddies decided to use only basic gear for a while and still stomped the team on "proto" levels.
We have also decimated a enemy team with 11 Q'd up people running ADV and PRO against a 5 man squad of Synergy and randoms. We ended up winning.
Player stupidity and or apathy to win is a major factor in getting pubstomped.
Our bluedots may have been random but they actually pushed and held objectives while we took them and without that we wouldn't have won the match.
P.S. Someone sent me mail saying we were tryhards that match....oh the hypocrisy.[/quote
Exactly, this is why "tiercide" wouldn't solve anything. People need to stop fixating on gear as the cause of pubstomps
Who cares what some sniper has to say
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
252
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Posted - 2013.11.30 20:45:00 -
[71] - Quote
Talos Vagheitan wrote:[quote=Sgt Kirk]Me and my buddies decided to use only basic gear for a while and still stomped the team on "proto" levels.
We have also decimated a enemy team with 11 Q'd up people running ADV and PRO against a 5 man squad of Synergy and randoms. We ended up winning.
Player stupidity and or apathy to win is a major factor in getting pubstomped.
Our bluedots may have been random but they actually pushed and held objectives while we took them and without that we wouldn't have won the match.
P.S. Someone sent me mail saying we were tryhards that match....oh the hypocrisy.
Exactly, this is why "tiercide" wouldn't solve anything. People need to stop fixating on gear as the cause of pubstomps
Who cares what some sniper has to say
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Kahn Zo
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
122
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Posted - 2013.11.30 21:02:00 -
[72] - Quote
A. no
B. Ain't there yet (proto scout suit)
Pure Gallente
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
Zero-Day
33
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Posted - 2013.11.30 22:19:00 -
[73] - Quote
i don't
I've waited a long time to get a proto suit, and now that I have one its even more glaringly obvious how much of a crutch it is. I find people who proto stomp generally believe that they are better players. Those same guys get their ass kicked when fighting other proto in a pc, where everybody is fighting to death with the best they possibly have.
These guys 20-2 in the pubs then going 5-12 in a PC.
The real good players that I respect in dust are the ones who get great scores fighting for a PC district, when its all or nothing, and everybody is on the same level of gear.
Basically its all about character, and people who proto pubstomp have none. Running weapons that does 3x damage of the average suit with 3x hp than the average suit and then saying when you run a high score killing the average suit thats ''its all about skill?''
Nope, getting proto gear is all about how much aurum you spend, or SP you can either grind or buy with active boosters.
You have the right to run whatever suit you want in pubs, i support you in this aspect of the game. You'll just never have my respect, no matter what score you have on the kill boards.
*I fly I shoot I rep I tank/
Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/
I'm the Jack of all trades/
Master of Some
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ELITE INQUISITOR
Eternal Beings
30
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Posted - 2013.12.01 15:54:00 -
[74] - Quote
I do not. I only use my proto scout in pc or when the enemy team is protostomping.
If you accept your limitations you go beyond them
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DR FEB
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
112
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Posted - 2013.12.01 16:00:00 -
[75] - Quote
I do now after a long time waiting]
Y.O.L.U.T
You Only Live Unlimited Times
DR FEB goes back in the corner
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Jack Kittinger
DUST University
Ivy League
60
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Posted - 2013.12.01 16:08:00 -
[76] - Quote
No protostomp
but teamwork is OP |
Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
588
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Posted - 2013.12.01 17:06:00 -
[77] - Quote
"Protostomp" is a relative term.
Being on a coordinated team using comms against a team not using comms is a much bigger advantage in my opinion.
If I'm running with my corp on comms we can do very well. Not all of us use full proto gear or we vary the tiers of gear during each match. Coordinated actions on comms are a huge advantage when combined with good tactics, fully maxed skill-trees and complementary weapon/suit/vehicle selections.
Is this protostomping?
Is it protostomping when you use proto weapons or equipment with advanced tier suits? It saves money and can be nearly as effective.
We can agree that full proto everything all the time with coordinated teams on comms is protostomping but there are degrees of protostomping.
Munch
What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1204
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Posted - 2013.12.01 17:23:00 -
[78] - Quote
I don't because it seems like I die 100x faster than I do in ADV/BPO/STD gear. It is always stupid **** too, crushed by LAV dropped from a Bolas, sniped 2 seconds after spawning etc..
I never seem to notice it as much when I am in non-PRO suits....
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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2Berries
Red Star Jr.
EoN.
12
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Posted - 2013.12.01 17:47:00 -
[79] - Quote
I do not. About half a mil away form my proto cal assault suit. I ran duvolles for the last event, but just what i had in inventory. Yeah, when i get my suit i plan on rocking it for a week or so to work out the best fitting for me. After that, back to starter fits so i have a nice wallet for when the player market opens.
I don't fault anyone for running proto in pubs. Once you except it as part of dust life, you stop feeling bad about being out gunned and relish when you take one (or five) with basic gear. Thats rewarding! |
Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
58
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Posted - 2013.12.01 18:29:00 -
[80] - Quote
Only proto equipment I ever use is a viziam pistol on occasion when im tired of dying in 3 hits. Sometimes you want to return the favor. That being said the majority of my fits contain only adv level gear.
Dedicated scout.
Caldari loyalist.
Pistol supremacy.
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Aisha Ctarl
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
1936
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Posted - 2013.12.01 18:33:00 -
[81] - Quote
Dengru wrote:I don't understand why killing a Proto suit in adv/std gear is worth something. If you're using an ar or scrambler you don't need a Proto suit to kill other players in pubs.
In previous build My friend, on an alt with no sp allocated, 17/3 against protos relying on strafing.
In this build, where you can point at anything and kill it in2 seconds irregardless of what tier of weapon you are using, it's not impressive to kill protos.. Also most of you have your passives leveled. Circle jerks like this are so sad.
You just committed a sin, irregardless is not a word, regardless is already in the negative form.
Sorry just a pet peeve.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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Oswald Rehnquist
752
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Posted - 2013.12.01 19:06:00 -
[82] - Quote
Aisha Ctarl wrote:Dengru wrote:I don't understand why killing a Proto suit in adv/std gear is worth something. If you're using an ar or scrambler you don't need a Proto suit to kill other players in pubs.
In previous build My friend, on an alt with no sp allocated, 17/3 against protos relying on strafing.
In this build, where you can point at anything and kill it in2 seconds irregardless of what tier of weapon you are using, it's not impressive to kill protos.. Also most of you have your passives leveled. Circle jerks like this are so sad. You just committed a sin, irregardless is not a word, regardless is already in the negative form. Sorry just a pet peeve.
It is a word, its part of the american lexicon, its a blend/short of "irrespective and regardless", so in essence its 3 words in one more so than to be taken as word parts. Obviously its informal and thus spoken and not written in graded papers to say the least. But that is no different than common language which is spoken in the cities, where a lot of formalities are dropped and slang in its place, even internet speech itself is full inf informal and nonsensical slogans that doesn't fit squarely into proper English.
Below 28 dB
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HYENAKILLER X
TEAM SHINOBI
355
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Posted - 2013.12.01 19:19:00 -
[83] - Quote
I advance stomp son.
You are welcome for my leadership
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
271
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Posted - 2013.12.01 19:21:00 -
[84] - Quote
J0hlss0n wrote:No, I very rarely use anything above advanced for pubs, that goes for modules even. I might bring out a Proto Forge for special moments but thats about the only proto stuff I use for pubs.
Reason - I want to save up money, I wasnt that involved in PC (so I dont sit on all that free cash many have) due to the huge amount of lag and disconnects I get and I really like the advanced stuff the heavy class got.
You already are op enough my friend, I would love to see the tears with you running proto.
CEO
Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"
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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
186
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Posted - 2013.12.01 20:22:00 -
[85] - Quote
I run proto all the time. The main concern is profitability which is easy enough if we're all running with nanite injectors. I'm not involved in PC because I have a small corp, but I've seen plenty all-proto teams, and those are always good fights.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
742
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Posted - 2013.12.01 21:00:00 -
[86] - Quote
If I have killed you in a proto suit... dishonor on yourself, dishonor on you family, dishonor on your cow.
you died to a proto gallente scout
160 shields
210 armor
12.5 per/sec armor rep
and a duvolle
no damage mods, no nades
and I almost never use them.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
CLOSED BETA VET
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Kira Takizawa
Ethereal Eden
51
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Posted - 2013.12.02 01:35:00 -
[87] - Quote
Aisha Ctarl wrote:Simply post if you do or do not protostomp. There are no maybes or sometimes, it's black and white, either you do or don't. Also state the reason why you do or why you do not.
I'd really like to see the arguments and reasons for both sides of this coin so try and keep it civil.
I do protostomp.
Reason - I worked my ass off to get the skills to obtain my proto weapons, suits, and modules so I'm sure as hell going to use them. I also used BPO's frequently in order to accrue enough ISK to run my proto loadouts.
Not a logical reason to.. but all of you that do can happily burn in the hottest flames of hell!
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That is all. |
Kira Takizawa
Ethereal Eden
51
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Posted - 2013.12.02 01:37:00 -
[88] - Quote
knight of 6 wrote:If I have killed you in a proto suit... dishonor on yourself, dishonor on you family, dishonor on your cow.
you died to a proto gallente scout
160 shields
210 armor
12.5 per/sec armor rep
and a duvolle
no damage mods, no nades
and I almost never use them.
You have a duvolle... I think you don't get your own argument.. unless troll..
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Please burn..
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That is all.. |
Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
257
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Posted - 2013.12.02 01:52:00 -
[89] - Quote
Proto for Life!
Nuff Said
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Taurion Bruni
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
198
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Posted - 2013.12.02 02:46:00 -
[90] - Quote
I do not protostome. I have proto suits but I will only use them when the match gets serious and the squad needs the proto logi to stay alive, but I usually save the isk for my Python and Pc Matches
Pilot // Logistics
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
2649
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Posted - 2013.12.02 02:48:00 -
[91] - Quote
I dont.
My only Proto Suit is a Basic Light Frame Mk.0...
So even when im ''protostomping'' , Im not.
Support SCOUTS : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=124408&find=unread
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We are 138
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
446
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Posted - 2013.12.02 03:07:00 -
[92] - Quote
I run proto gear when needed, but mostly stick to my covenant assault. |
straya fox
Sad Panda Solutions
103
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Posted - 2013.12.02 03:48:00 -
[93] - Quote
I run proto when i can but due to my terribad gun game i would hardly call it stomping. |
XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4059
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Posted - 2013.12.02 03:54:00 -
[94] - Quote
Aisha Ctarl wrote:Simply post if you do or do not protostomp. There are no maybes or sometimes, it's black and white, either you do or don't. Also state the reason why you do or why you do not.
I'd really like to see the arguments and reasons for both sides of this coin so try and keep it civil.
I do protostomp.
Reason - I worked my ass off to get the skills to obtain my proto weapons, suits, and modules so I'm sure as hell going to use them. I also used BPO's frequently in order to accrue enough ISK to run my proto loadouts.
I do protostomp
Level 5 forum warrior
A Solo heavy Boss
4.00 KDR and more
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis Dragonaors
186
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Posted - 2013.12.02 03:57:00 -
[95] - Quote
I just use either std or adv sentinel suits no since in running proto heavy's
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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True Adamance
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
4469
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Posted - 2013.12.02 03:59:00 -
[96] - Quote
straya fox wrote:I run proto when i can but due to my terribad gun game i would hardly call it stomping.
You and me both.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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