Bad idea.

Anybody play Company of Heroes?

Remember the tanks which took 0 damage from the wrong type of tanks?
That's not balance, that's stupidity.

it FORCES you to play in a way which you don't want to.

Some people are reluctant to skill into AV, they sure as hell don't want to have to spec into tanks.

And as previously mentioned, it will be a matter of who has the best tank.

I think the Large Blaster turret could use some adjusting, but removal? That sounds a bit extreme. What would we replace it with?

That's like removing SLs from the game.

And I don't hate anything about HAVs. It's the 99.999999% of the HAV pilot community that I have a problem with.

Stop referring to the OP, it's pretty clear that he's a potato. Also, there is no point to even using combat vehicles if infantry have the best infantry killing weapons AND the best AV weapons.

Once again, STOP LOOKING AT BALANCE PURELY FROM AN OFFENSE/DEFENSE PERSPECTIVE. STOP MAKING ASSUMPTIONS THAT ALL OF US ONLY WANT TANKS TO COUNTER TANKS. THINGS CAN COUNTER THEMSELVES AND STILL NOT BE OP.

A tank is a support class, but it's support in the same way a real life HMG is a support weapon.

On an unrelated note, I'm betting that tanks in real life have a longer TTK even WITH the single man Javelin units, because of the trophy system, the fact that vehicle mounted weapons actually do their job (forcing the infantrymen to hid a distance and actually use TACTICS) and the fact that the weapons actually take time to be set up.

Sunnovabitch just pisses ammunition away doesn't it?

Also, forget two man team, someone just posted a link of a single Javelin getting a K-Kill on a main battle tank. There wasn't much of anything left after it hit. The HAV pundits can scream all they like, but AV will forever be the main threat to V, as it should be. They trade immunity to small arms for vulnerability to AV weapons, and they are One-Man crews. Fair is fair guys.

Do you still think it needs adjusting with its higher heat gain, less damage due to the removal of the scattered variant, and 70% damage modifier to vehicle hulls in 1.7?

Where it was a great all around turret for most situations pre-1.7 it's being geared for purely anti-infantry after the patch.

And our Swarm damage is getting nerfed as well. So HTFU about your turret damage.

And small missile launchers will have 300HP of splash damage? And you think you have a right to complain?

Though I do believe that the Large Blasters need some serious range adjusting.

the only thing that should be able to take out a tank is... ANOTHER TANK

do you agree?






personally i agree.. i think tanks should be a dominating presence on the battlefield as is such the case in real life.

air strikes from fast air seem to be the only counter.. iv seen CHALLENGER 2 battle tanks shrug off rpg-7s and anti tank mines.

You know how much one of those things cost, 143k for the launcher itself than 86k per missile 1 missile and one launcher costs 230K.

Compared to a multi million tank lol worth it

I know the OP is a "potato". I wouldn't necessary call him a "potato" but he really is something.

And I have no problem with tanks countering other tanks, as along with any other role, class, suit, or weapon, HAVs can already do so. A good example of this is the Large Railgun Turret.

I can be a counter to AV when I'm AV as well. If I'm in my AV fit and I see an enemy holding a Swarm Launcher or Forge Gun, I can easily whip my SMG shred them to bits. But should that be the best counter?

You can be a counter all you want. You just can't be a worse or better counter than AV. Especially when that class is dedicated to doing nothing but destroying you.

And trust me when I say that if this game was like real life, we'd have the most broken and unplayable game mechanics New Eden has ever managed to create. And the EvE players would be $#!tting themselves at the mere thought of EvE being nearly as broken.