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Assert Dominance Ahrendee's Wafflehouse 497	Posted - 2013.11.29 05:55:00 - [1] - Quote then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p get off the forums.
DeadlyAztec11 2294	Posted - 2013.11.29 06:00:00 - [2] - Quote Boom, exactly. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Vitharr Foebane Blood Money Mercenaries 279	Posted - 2013.11.29 06:11:00 - [3] - Quote As I say to all these threads... it aint the suit its the fact that we are stuck with an UP POS HMG. Once we get our heavy laser we WILL be feared again. How to make a Heavy Laser: 1.Take laser 2.Make it REALLY BIG 3.Give it to the heavy sobbing quietly in the corner.
Assert Dominance Ahrendee's Wafflehouse 500	Posted - 2013.11.29 06:17:00 - [4] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: As I say to all these threads... it aint the suit its the fact that we are stuck with an UP POS HMG. Once we get our heavy laser we WILL be feared again. he uses a HMG get off the forums.
Vitharr Foebane Blood Money Mercenaries 281	Posted - 2013.11.29 06:21:00 - [5] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: As I say to all these threads... it aint the suit its the fact that we are stuck with an UP POS HMG. Once we get our heavy laser we WILL be feared again. he uses a HMG and i'm sure he hides in one little corner with two dedicated logis with core focused rep on him and he never leaves that spot. that DOESN'T MAKE THE HMG A GOOD WEAPON. While I applaud his dedication to a weapon, that simply means with any other gun he would do even better. How to make a Heavy Laser: 1.Take laser 2.Make it REALLY BIG 3.Give it to the heavy sobbing quietly in the corner.
castba Penguin's March 219	Posted - 2013.11.29 07:23:00 - [6] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p Yep, he is a beast. Preston and Jacques Clayton are excellent measures of your 1-on-1 heavy abilities if you can catch them in a straight fight with no pesky mediums around. I Support SP Rollover
Virtual Riot The Vanguardians 95	Posted - 2013.11.29 07:23:00 - [7] - Quote That is by no means a valid reason to say the heavy is not UP If you are a great player, you will kick ass no matter what weapon or suit you are using, plain and simple.
Eurydice Itzhak State Patriots 243	Posted - 2013.11.29 07:25:00 - [8] - Quote castba wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p Yep, he is a beast. Preston and Jacques Clayton are excellent measures of your 1-on-1 heavy abilities if you can catch them in a straight fight with no pesky mediums around. Jacques Clayton is stupidly good. When he tries. I'll never forgive him for losing a FW for us by spamming his plasma cannon, doing nothing all game. COMMANDO IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD CLAYTON!
Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 129	Posted - 2013.11.29 07:25:00 - [9] - Quote Nah, I think he just carries fluxes. You need to realize your gun melts armor, not shields. So if I was to make a heavy fit my first goal would be to get as many people into armor as fast as possible. In comes proto flux paired with HMG in tight quarters, you ******* wreck face the logi just need to keep you repped and your nades stocked. Better yet just have the logi throw the nades too then you just need keep ammo in your gun. Any way the guy is a beast regardless, this is just how I plan to run my heavy setup after I proto my logi suit. Dedicated redline sniper, tower forger, nade spammer, protostomper, and mass driver.
Eurydice Itzhak State Patriots 243	Posted - 2013.11.29 07:34:00 - [10] - Quote Kal Kronos wrote: Nah, I think he just carries fluxes. You need to realize your gun melts armor, not shields. So if I was to make a heavy fit my first goal would be to get as many people into armor as fast as possible. In comes proto flux paired with HMG in tight quarters, you ******* wreck face the logi just need to keep you repped and your nades stocked. Better yet just have the logi throw the nades too then you just need keep ammo in your gun. Any way the guy is a beast regardless, this is just how I plan to run my heavy setup after I proto my logi suit. :( If youre not throwing core lucus, you're not really trying to win anything. Almost any weapon can melt shields faster than the time it takes to cook a flux, and if you can cook a flux you could've cooked a locus and killed them. Flux is only useful for destroying shields/equipment through walls.

MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 73	Posted - 2013.11.29 07:37:00 - [11] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: As I say to all these threads... it aint the suit its the fact that we are stuck with an UP POS HMG. Once we get our heavy laser we WILL be feared again. I want an autocannon. Accurate out to about 60m, good vs vehicles, a strong kick, about 3 rounds per second and anywhere from about 150-200 damage per shot, not really great at close quarters though. Base it off of this but made man portable and with a smaller barrel : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb6KsYE4X3I Also it must have a satisfying 'K-CHUNG' sound with shell ejection.
Happy Jack SD Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 20	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:53:00 - [12] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: :( If youre not throwing core lucus, you're not really trying to win anything. If you're not throwing core locus grenades you're actually TRYING to play this game "Have faith lest your unbelief consume you." -The Bleeding Chalice
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 588	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:54:00 - [13] - Quote heavys always do great with squad support but it does not change the fact that the HMG needs work SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 2271	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:56:00 - [14] - Quote So if I get 20-30 kills with a plasma cannon that instantly makes it not UP. Worst logic ever.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1313	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:58:00 - [15] - Quote yep most heavies are garbage, but once in a blue moon I do face really good heavies.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1803	Posted - 2013.11.29 20:00:00 - [16] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: So if I get 20-30 kills with a plasma cannon that instantly makes it not UP. Worst logic ever. Thank you You win DUST You Won Come on up because the price is right! Level 1 Forum Warrior I'm a bittervet, if I seem like a douche it's because of your stupidity
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2549	Posted - 2013.11.29 20:02:00 - [17] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p Preston is a GOOD heavy. NEVER THE LESS: He has heavy support from his team,logis repairhim, everyone revivies him and whats worst he has always 1 - 3 people following him around. The heavy is STILL UNDERPOWERED. He's just smart using the most Powerful Feature in this game: Teamwork. The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
Sleepy Zan 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 2867	Posted - 2013.11.29 20:04:00 - [18] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: So if I get 20-30 kills with a plasma cannon that instantly makes it not UP. Worst logic ever. Yeah, actually if people can get 20 or 30 kills with it against good players it's not UP. "Burn down their families and rape their homes!"
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 249	Posted - 2013.11.29 20:15:00 - [19] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: So if I get 20-30 kills with a plasma cannon that instantly makes it not UP. Worst logic ever. Yeah, actually if people can get 20 or 30 kills with it against good players it's not UP. Guys we all know that the Heavy is not Underpower when he have support. But to need logibro for a weapon to be viable it's bad balance. ...and may the FORGE be with you.
FAKIR REDETTa 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 7	Posted - 2013.11.29 20:15:00 - [20] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p Preston v.s faquira bluetta the guys who can own djinn kujo and djinn soul wit a ar gek wit 500 hp .

Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 636	Posted - 2013.11.29 20:43:00 - [21] - Quote As a HMG heavy i think the heavy is good as it is. Only a couple things need to change. 1. HMG needs a buff. My HMG is only good because its the proto HMG with proficiency 5 and a complex damage mod. The HMG accuracy is fine as it has no spread when standing still, and enough when moving to hit strafing targets. But the lower level HMGs without proficiency maxed feel to weak, I would recomend a damage buff but the game already has had its ttk lowered so mabey this isnt a good idea, but then again it seems only the ARs are killing to fast. 2. Sentinal skills nedd to be changed. The current bonus of 5% less overheat damage to self per level is not only bad for skilled players, but its not even the amarr bonus, its the sentinal one that ALL sentinals get. IMO the sentinal bonus should be 3% damage reduction from light weapons, sidearms, and explosives per level. 3. MOAR HEAVY STUFF! We need the other racial dropsuits, not just for heavys but for scouts as well. We also need more heavy weapons so were not stuck with one weapon. Worst Thread of the Week
Skeletor Voltron Fatal Absolution 25	Posted - 2013.11.29 21:10:00 - [22] - Quote Heavies aren't bad. Bad heavies are bad.
Cosgar ParagonX 8086	Posted - 2013.11.29 21:49:00 - [23] - Quote Suit = good Forge gun = good HMG = Baaaad Role = Millions of SP just to camp?! WTF? Content = Over a year and 3 suits and the same two weapons?! Double WTF? I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
nor asha Turbo Bros inc. 21	Posted - 2013.11.29 21:51:00 - [24] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: As I say to all these threads... it aint the suit its the fact that we are stuck with an UP POS HMG. Once we get our heavy laser we WILL be feared again. Also think about it. Minmatar Heavy suit super fast can get in range to use the HMG, while the Ammar heavyactully has a BONUS TO HEAVY LASERS. It's insulting.
nor asha Turbo Bros inc. 21	Posted - 2013.11.29 21:53:00 - [25] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: As a HMG heavy i think the heavy is good as it is. Only a couple things need to change. 1. HMG needs a buff. My HMG is only good because its the proto HMG with proficiency 5 and a complex damage mod. The HMG accuracy is fine as it has no spread when standing still, and enough when moving to hit strafing targets. But the lower level HMGs without proficiency maxed feel to weak, I would recomend a damage buff but the game already has had its ttk lowered so mabey this isnt a good idea, but then again it seems only the ARs are killing to fast. 2. Sentinal skills need to be changed. The current bonus of 5% less overheat damage to self per level is not only bad for skilled players, but its not even the amarr bonus, its the sentinal one that ALL sentinals get. IMO the sentinal bonus should be 3% damage reduction from light weapons, sidearms, and explosives per level. 3. MOAR HEAVY STUFF! We need the other racial dropsuits, not just for heavys but for scouts as well. We also need more heavy weapons so were not stuck with one weapon. It's like a child came up with the bonuses, or they were trolling CCP and wanted to take down the company.
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 955	Posted - 2013.11.29 21:58:00 - [26] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p yo once i saw this guy go 0 and 27 in a pub match with the Assault Rifle so ya, the AR needs a buff i think There is a strong chance you won't like what I have to say.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... 62	Posted - 2013.11.29 22:00:00 - [27] - Quote Heavy you say? Well someone just dont know about lolcus thingy and duvolle. They get melted as fast as scouts due to 100% headshoot rate. (Who cant shoot big a-º-º hev head :d). Heavies are only viable with logis. And in corners. Maps are open hah. And dont you guys want more 2 slayer/support logis (scan,rev,duvolle ,tank) than logi+heavy? (1-2lolcus 2kills)
noob cavman A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 227	Posted - 2013.11.30 00:09:00 - [28] - Quote Preston runs around alot on his own with little support from us. He never camps a corner and is running around the whole damn place with hmg and fig 8 strafing to ruin everyone's day My view on knives..... I DON'T KNOW WHAT IM DOING @_@
Happy Jack SD Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 24	Posted - 2013.11.30 01:55:00 - [29] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p yo once i saw this guy go 0 and 27 in a pub match with the Assault Rifle so ya, the AR needs a buff i think This is consistent play in PC, not lolPubs. Reading comprehension "Have faith lest your unbelief consume you." -The Bleeding Chalice
Joeboa A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 4	Posted - 2013.12.03 15:10:00 - [30] - Quote You guys have a completely false perception of how Preston plays, with the exception of noob caveman of course. We never follow him with reps and he never hides in a corner. Just keep guessing on how it's done. Also, 35-60 kills in PC is probably more accurate.

Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 589	Posted - 2013.12.03 15:16:00 - [31] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p Preston is a GOOD heavy. NEVER THE LESS: He has heavy support from his team,logis repairhim, everyone revivies him and whats worst he has always 1 - 3 people following him around. The heavy is STILL UNDERPOWERED. He's just smart using the most Powerful Feature in this game: Teamwork. Where the hell are you people getting this? Every once in a while Preston has someone repping him. Most of the time he's just a badass though. That dude is a beast. Plain and simple. Just more so with squad support. Like anyone else. The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Aleph Rynedee Science For Death 14	Posted - 2013.12.03 16:11:00 - [32] - Quote Jastad wrote: But to need logibro for a weapon to be viable it's bad balance. It's not the weapon that needs a logi bro, it's the player. I don't support a HMG or an AR as a logi bro, I'm supporting my teammate. The same teammate that is drawing fire from multiple directions allows me to keep their armor repped and ammo stocked. The two of us work together as a team to chew thru the seemingly endless stream of cranberries. It's not the weapon that is out of balance, it's your view of the rock-paper-scissors interaction.
The Attorney General ZionTCD 1495	Posted - 2013.12.03 16:26:00 - [33] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p Core locus for half his kills. Anyone can sling grenades. One could make an argument that he would be more effective in a medium frame because at least he could carry ammo or uplinks for the team. Some people just need the HP pool to stay alive though. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Tek Hound Death In Xcess Corporation 150	Posted - 2013.12.03 16:35:00 - [34] - Quote Video please
Terra Thesis HDYLTA Defiant Legacy 370	Posted - 2013.12.03 16:48:00 - [35] - Quote the point of the heavy is to be the foundation of a terrifying cqc squad. the way to break this squad is to isolate the heavy, use your superior mobility to flank his cover and use your superior range pick him apart from range. don't try to make it into a solo suit. it's like saying the rep tool is UP because it's useless solo... if you're trying to roam around in a heavy suit, ninja objectives and 1v1 mediums, well actually i say good luck to you because i love innovative play. but don't think you'll ever get buffs for that role. that said, i agree HMG is up in cqc. increase dispersion, increase dps, add "cripple effect". HDYLTA - Freedom Delivered
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 590	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:06:00 - [36] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p Core locus for half his kills. Anyone can sling grenades. One could make an argument that he would be more effective in a medium frame because at least he could carry ammo or uplinks for the team. Some people just need the HP pool to stay alive though. Show me on the doll where Preston hurt you... lol The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Llast 326 An Arkhos 659	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:10:00 - [37] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p Preston is a GOOD heavy. NEVER THE LESS: He has heavy support from his team,logis repairhim, everyone revivies him and whats worst he has always 1 - 3 people following him around. The heavy is STILL UNDERPOWERED. He's just smart using the most Powerful Feature in this game: Teamwork. Where the hell are you people getting this? Every once in a while Preston has someone repping him. Most of the time he's just a badass though. That dude is a beast. Plain and simple. Just more so with squad support. Like anyone else. What I have seen is insane situational awareness, faster than normal heavy speed, and bad ass controlled fire of the HMG, but i die quick as i am noticed so my field observations are limited I shot a man in Black Rise onceGÇª Just to watch him die
noob cavman A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 249	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:16:00 - [38] - Quote Next time you see Preston take a look at his armor. Just saying My view on knives..... I DON'T KNOW WHAT IM DOING @_@
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 590	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:22:00 - [39] - Quote noob cavman wrote: Next time you see Preston take a look at his armor. Just saying Don't give these scrubs any hints noob!!!! I'm dying to tell them all the secret but they can figure that **** out on their own. The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 402	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:47:00 - [40] - Quote Good heavies are good. Bad heavies are bad. A boundless with 1100 armour catching you by surprise will always tear you up if it's a good player. With that being said darkxfiles is NOT a good heavy. Sorry bro but running back to your LAV when you hit 50%HP is not skillful. Nor is driving behind somebody to shoot them in the back with an HMG. Nor is losing your LLAV to me on your first spawn.

CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 406	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:49:00 - [41] - Quote Terra Thesis wrote: the point of the heavy is to be the foundation of a terrifying cqc squad. the way to break this squad is to isolate the heavy, use your superior mobility to flank his cover and use your superior range pick him apart from range. don't try to make it into a solo suit. it's like saying the rep tool is UP because it's useless solo... if you're trying to roam around in a heavy suit, ninja objectives and 1v1 mediums, well actually i say good luck to you because i love innovative play. but don't think you'll ever get buffs for that role. that said, i agree HMG is up in cqc. increase dispersion, increase dps, add "cripple effect". really the way to deal with heavies easily is to shoot them in the back and continue to do so whilst they run away at 4m/s
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis Dragonaors 194	Posted - 2013.12.04 01:22:00 - [42] - Quote castba wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p Yep, he is a beast. Preston and Jacques Clayton are excellent measures of your 1-on-1 heavy abilities if you can catch them in a straight fight with no pesky mediums around. OMG I was mentioned I feel important We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis Dragonaors 194	Posted - 2013.12.04 01:23:00 - [43] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: castba wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p Yep, he is a beast. Preston and Jacques Clayton are excellent measures of your 1-on-1 heavy abilities if you can catch them in a straight fight with no pesky mediums around. Jacques Clayton is stupidly good. When he tries. I'll never forgive him for losing a FW for us by spamming his plasma cannon, doing nothing all game. COMMANDO IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD CLAYTON! Love you We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Joeboa A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 6	Posted - 2013.12.05 01:38:00 - [44] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p Core locus for half his kills. Anyone can sling grenades. One could make an argument that he would be more effective in a medium frame because at least he could carry ammo or uplinks for the team. Some people just need the HP pool to stay alive though. I'm usually part of his logi support in PC. He actually tells us not to bring ammo hives because something else is usually more valuable, such as uplinks. He uses his grenades when he has them, true, but he's not one of those people who sit on hives or depots to do it. When he has have or a depot he probably does sometimes and I would too, but it's not how he ever intends to play. Keep guessing.
SoTarian PoParrazi Shining Flame Amarr Empire 398	Posted - 2013.12.05 01:44:00 - [45] - Quote Preston is probably the best heavy left in the game. Even I admit he's probably better then me. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis Dragonaors 202	Posted - 2013.12.05 01:48:00 - [46] - Quote Pssha I'm th best heavy. Showdown high noon We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Joeboa A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 6	Posted - 2013.12.05 01:50:00 - [47] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p Preston is a GOOD heavy. NEVER THE LESS: He has heavy support from his team,logis repairhim, everyone revivies him and whats worst he has always 1 - 3 people following him around. The heavy is STILL UNDERPOWERED. He's just smart using the most Powerful Feature in this game: Teamwork. Where the hell are you people getting this? Every once in a while Preston has someone repping him. Most of the time he's just a badass though. That dude is a beast. Plain and simple. Just more so with squad support. Like anyone else. What I have seen is insane situational awareness, faster than normal heavy speed, and bad ass controlled fire of the HMG, but i die quick as i am noticed so my field observations are limited He knows too much. Take him out before he gets any further!
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4551	Posted - 2013.12.05 01:51:00 - [48] - Quote I see good tankers do good in PC games... DON'T BUFF THE TANKS! THEY'RE GOOD! I see good dropship pilots fly circles around FGs... DON'T BUFF THE DROPSHIPS, THEY'RE GOOD! I see a bad player using the AR and goes 1-11... BUFF THE AR! IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH! Great logic in the OP HMG is poop, regardless. I've gotten a few 30+ games in PC, more 20+ games, but it still doesn't change the fact that the gun sucks. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1285	Posted - 2013.12.05 01:57:00 - [49] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p yo once i saw this guy go 0 and 27 in a pub match with the Assault Rifle so ya, the AR needs a buff i think It's not totally like that but yeah. Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 34	Posted - 2013.12.05 02:17:00 - [50] - Quote Happy Jack SD wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p yo once i saw this guy go 0 and 27 in a pub match with the Assault Rifle so ya, the AR needs a buff i think This is consistent play in PC, not lolPubs. Reading comprehension Not reading comprehension. It's statistical comprehension. You don't base typical mileage off outliers. It's like saying golfing is easy because you saw tiger woods get a birdie. Yes he can consistently do that, but is that a normal outcome? Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.

AP Grasshopper The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 52	Posted - 2013.12.05 02:37:00 - [51] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: As a HMG heavy i think the heavy is good as it is. Only a couple things need to change. 1. HMG needs a buff. My HMG is only good because its the proto HMG with proficiency 5 and a complex damage mod. The HMG accuracy is fine as it has no spread when standing still, and enough when moving to hit strafing targets. But the lower level HMGs without proficiency maxed feel to weak, I would recomend a damage buff but the game already has had its ttk lowered so mabey this isnt a good idea, but then again it seems only the ARs are killing to fast. 2. Sentinal skills nedd to be changed. The current bonus of 5% less overheat damage to self per level is not only bad for skilled players, but its not even the amarr bonus, its the sentinal one that ALL sentinals get. IMO the sentinal bonus should be 3% damage reduction from light weapons, sidearms, and explosives per level. 3. MOAR HEAVY STUFF! We need the other racial dropsuits, not just for heavys but for scouts as well. We also need more heavy weapons so were not stuck with one weapon. you contradicted yourself three times. HMG needs more dispersion, range and possibly damage. its almost as accurate as a laser at the moment its kinda silly!
Terra Thesis HDYLTA Defiant Legacy 384	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:34:00 - [52] - Quote Tch Tch wrote: Not reading comprehension. It's statistical comprehension. You don't base typical mileage off outliers. It's like saying golfing is easy because you saw tiger woods get a birdie. Yes he can consistently do that, but is that a normal outcome? actually, i have to disagree with where you are going with that. game balance should be done at the skill cap where the most competitive players are. not in the middle where all the mediocre people are. HDYLTA - Freedom Delivered
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 601	Posted - 2013.12.05 05:15:00 - [53] - Quote Tch Tch wrote: Happy Jack SD wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p yo once i saw this guy go 0 and 27 in a pub match with the Assault Rifle so ya, the AR needs a buff i think This is consistent play in PC, not lolPubs. Reading comprehension Not reading comprehension. It's statistical comprehension. You don't base typical mileage off outliers. It's like saying golfing is easy because you saw tiger woods get a birdie. Yes he can consistently do that, but is that a normal outcome? This made me laugh because basically you're saying that Preston is the Tiger Woods of heavies. I'll bite. That fits. The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 313	Posted - 2013.12.05 10:41:00 - [54] - Quote Just because one player is exceptional with the HMG doesn't mean the weapon is okay. I don't think there's ever been a weapon so bad that there's not one player who can use it well. UP=weaker than it should be. UPGëáso weak it's impossible even for an outstanding player to get good scores. I have prof 5 HMG and prof 5 AR. It's a simple fact that, versus a moving target (i.e. any competent player), the effective DPS on the AR is higher even at close range. This is because, however good you are with the HMG, some of your bullets will miss a strafing target, because it's virtually impossible to keep a single pixel reticule on target 100% of the time. By contrast, the AR has a much larger hit area to start with and the AA makes that bigger still. Then of course there's the range difference. The only advantages the HMG has are high ammo and, in particular, a very large clip. For a player that is much better than his opponents that counts for a lot as it means you can go on kill streaks that an AR can't manage. Soloing in a pub the other day I killed 12 red dots in about as many seconds with the HMG by spawning into a camped CRU for lols, something that is impossible with the AR. Of course, that is only possible because I am a much better player than the average red, just as Preston is a better player than the average PC player. The point is that a weapon that can only use its advantage in the hands of someone who is superior to his opponents is obviously UP.
The Attorney General ZionTCD 1536	Posted - 2013.12.05 13:48:00 - [55] - Quote Joeboa wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p Core locus for half his kills. Anyone can sling grenades. One could make an argument that he would be more effective in a medium frame because at least he could carry ammo or uplinks for the team. Some people just need the HP pool to stay alive though. I'm usually part of his logi support in PC. He actually tells us not to bring ammo hives because something else is usually more valuable, such as uplinks. He uses his grenades when he has them, true, but he's not one of those people who sit on hives or depots to do it. When he has have or a depot he probably does sometimes and I would too, but it's not how he ever intends to play. Keep guessing. Did I say he sits on a hive? So then how about you respond to my post instead of just blindly jumping to your boys defense. I'm not saying he is not good with an HMG, but he gets a good chunk of his kills from the grenades. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
The Attorney General ZionTCD 1536	Posted - 2013.12.05 13:50:00 - [56] - Quote SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: Preston is probably the best heavy left in the game. Even I admit he's probably better then me. He can't use the forge worth a crap though. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2311	Posted - 2013.12.05 14:15:00 - [57] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: Kal Kronos wrote: Nah, I think he just carries fluxes. You need to realize your gun melts armor, not shields. So if I was to make a heavy fit my first goal would be to get as many people into armor as fast as possible. In comes proto flux paired with HMG in tight quarters, you ***** wreck face the logi just need to keep you repped and your nades stocked. Better yet just have the logi throw the nades too then you just need keep ammo in your gun. Any way the guy is a beast regardless, this is just how I plan to run my heavy setup after I proto my logi suit. :( If youre not throwing core lucus, you're not really trying to win anything. Almost any weapon can melt shields faster than the time it takes to cook a flux, and if you can cook a flux you could've cooked a locus and killed them. Flux is only useful for destroying shields/equipment through walls. cant be any further from the truth flux with ishukone sub is also a nasty combo flux with MD we all know is deadly and cooking fluxes? not really necessary and this is coming from core locus spammer prof 19... core locus way more fun, definitely, but you can teach a lazy-eyed caged baboon to be good with em Common Sense and Logic** are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.
demens grimwulff A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 55	Posted - 2013.12.05 18:55:00 - [58] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Joeboa wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p Core locus for half his kills. Anyone can sling grenades. One could make an argument that he would be more effective in a medium frame because at least he could carry ammo or uplinks for the team. Some people just need the HP pool to stay alive though. I'm usually part of his logi support in PC. He actually tells us not to bring ammo hives because something else is usually more valuable, such as uplinks. He uses his grenades when he has them, true, but he's not one of those people who sit on hives or depots to do it. When he has have or a depot he probably does sometimes and I would too, but it's not how he ever intends to play. Keep guessing. Did I say he sits on a hive? So then how about you respond to my post instead of just blindly jumping to your boys defense. I'm not saying he is not good with an HMG, but he gets a good chunk of his kills from the grenades. +1 Preston uses nades, yes, but he also has a bunch of repping hives... He uses heavies in the same way I use assault, close quick, confuse opponents, and use active armor tanking. plain and simple... I know his suit as I was in the squad when he built it, and he basis it off of my PC assault suits... He is very good and doesn't require a dedicated logi, but he does have nanohives (repping specifically)
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 302	Posted - 2013.12.05 20:24:00 - [59] - Quote not roofie me and call it romance. I believe he is a squad leader, so he gets a **** load of orbital kills. He is a good heavy though. Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
mini rehak The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 148	Posted - 2013.12.05 22:36:00 - [60] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p cough Most kills are from orbitals cough Damn near every PC I play I go 20+ (lag depending) and I don't have any forums about me ._. Edit: forgot to mention I am an HMG heavy. Know that you mean nothing to me,Nor the lies that seep from your teeth. Won't piss on you if you're on fire.

Texas Killionaire Capital Acquisitions LLC Public Disorder. 18	Posted - 2013.12.05 23:08:00 - [61] - Quote Mid PC, on the 'rings' map, I flew my dropship up to the tall tower to shout out my love for Caldari. As I reached the top, Preston's dropship landed squarely on top of mine, turning both dropships into flaming metal on top of the tower. I quickly got out of the wreckage to exchange insurance information when I was greeted by Preston. He took a knee and promptly killed me with his HMG. It was one of the most epic encounters I've had playing Dust. If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win. Jello Biafra = God AQUPI
John Mocahn BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 95	Posted - 2013.12.06 01:48:00 - [62] - Quote I actually admire Preston. Personally, I've only faced him once in PC, when ANON attacked us. He racked up 30 kills that game. I really don't know how the hell he does it. Just curious for my fellow fat boi's: What are your highest kills (HMG only) in PC? My highest stops at 29; i think i had 4 20+ kill PCs. "How many quotes does Draxus have?" - John Mocahn
Assert Dominance 0bamacare 553	Posted - 2013.12.06 04:48:00 - [63] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: I see good tankers do good in PC games... DON'T BUFF THE TANKS! THEY'RE GOOD! I see good dropship pilots fly circles around FGs... DON'T BUFF THE DROPSHIPS, THEY'RE GOOD! I see a bad player using the AR and goes 1-11... BUFF THE AR! IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH! Great logic in the OP HMG is poop, regardless. I've gotten a few 30+ games in PC, more 20+ games, but it still doesn't change the fact that the gun sucks. someone sounds jelly theyre not that good so they blame the gun... LOGIC! NO! IT BURRRRNNNSSS!!!!!!
Superhero Rawdon The Generals General Tso's Alliance 113	Posted - 2013.12.06 08:21:00 - [64] - Quote John Mocahn wrote: I actually admire Preston. Personally, I've only faced him once in PC, when ANON attacked us. He racked up 30 kills that game. I really don't know how the hell he does it. Just curious for my fellow fat boi's: What are your highest kills (HMG only) in PC? My highest stops at 29; i think i had 4 20+ kill PCs. highest pc was 18-9, i think........ 37-10, 36-4 are my highest pub scores that i have proof of. ive gone 39-11(?) b4, but no pic went 63-0 once.......with a boundless.........wont tell u how xD as for OP......meh. he uses cover, sentinel suits (4 complex plates) and uses his fluxes wisely. he also has a good team around him. i bleed chocolate milk........and poop batarangs
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 1804	Posted - 2013.12.06 09:15:00 - [65] - Quote I actually only played him for the 2nd time tonight...I think his teamwork is OP or he was having an off day or perhaps lag or maybe he wasn't squad lead to drop OB's. Or maybe some combination of all of them. Cheers: http://imgur.com/gEpAeOB Master naders: Geniuses at evening the odds. Favorite Skype: Zatara.Rought
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 3204	Posted - 2013.12.06 09:32:00 - [66] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: I actually only played him for the 2nd time tonight...I think his teamwork is OP or he was having an off day or perhaps lag or maybe he wasn't squad lead to drop OB's. Or maybe some combination of all of them. Cheers: http://imgur.com/gEpAeOB The war is still going on? GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 3 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 1804	Posted - 2013.12.06 09:35:00 - [67] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: I actually only played him for the 2nd time tonight...I think his teamwork is OP or he was having an off day or perhaps lag or maybe he wasn't squad lead to drop OB's. Or maybe some combination of all of them. Cheers: http://imgur.com/gEpAeOB The war is still going on? There was a war? You mean those friendly matches OH had with AE? I guess? I dunno im not really in the loop I just put bodies on either side for profit <3 Master naders: Geniuses at evening the odds. Favorite Skype: Zatara.Rought
Joeboa A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 6	Posted - 2013.12.09 09:29:00 - [68] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Joeboa wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p Core locus for half his kills. Anyone can sling grenades. One could make an argument that he would be more effective in a medium frame because at least he could carry ammo or uplinks for the team. Some people just need the HP pool to stay alive though. I'm usually part of his logi support in PC. He actually tells us not to bring ammo hives because something else is usually more valuable, such as uplinks. He uses his grenades when he has them, true, but he's not one of those people who sit on hives or depots to do it. When he has have or a depot he probably does sometimes and I would too, but it's not how he ever intends to play. Keep guessing. Did I say he sits on a hive? So then how about you respond to my post instead of just blindly jumping to your boys defense. I'm not saying he is not good with an HMG, but he gets a good chunk of his kills from the grenades. I never said you said he sits on a hive. Am I being trolled here? I simply suggested that he would favor hives if he depended entirely on grenades, yet he specifically asks not to have them. You did absolutely imply that he was a no skill grenade tosser, so all I was saying is that since he tells us not to bring hives it proves that he doesn't give a **** about grenade resupply. You only get 3 grenades, you know? I'm not sure how much clearer I could be. Again, I think I'm being trolled or something. It's so hard to tell. You weren't saying he was no good with the HMG, yet you said outright that he would be better off in a medium frame because then he might be of some use with hives and uplinks? AM I GETTING TROLLED??? PLEASE, I'M SO CONFUSED!!! lol You're not listening to yourself at all.
ANON Illuminati 484	Posted - 2013.12.09 09:56:00 - [69] - Quote preston is definetly a lonewolf killer he doesnt need a team when he is a 1 man army. *I Sware It Wasnt Me*
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 1819	Posted - 2013.12.09 09:58:00 - [70] - Quote ANON Illuminati wrote: preston is definetly a lonewolf killer he doesnt need a team when he is a 1 man army. He's not doing much atm bro. 8/13 just now 19/18 the battle before and he was dropping the OB's. I have others of him going negative in PC as well. No one besides Kalente Schiffer, James, and a rare few others are 1 man armies. But he is a beast no doubt about it. Master naders: Geniuses at evening the odds. Favorite Skype: Zatara.Rought

Long Evity 654	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:00:00 - [71] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: preston is definetly a lonewolf killer he doesnt need a team when he is a 1 man army. He's not doing much atm bro. 8/13 just now 19/18 the battle before and he was dropping the OB's. I have others of him going negative in PC as well. No one besides Kalente Schiffer, James, and a rare few others are 1 man armies. But he is a beast no doubt about it. It's nearly impossible for a heavy to be consistent, we're too easy to counter. But if there was a guy out there who could do it - it's Preston. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
TheSprayNPray2 Fatal Absolution 236	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:01:00 - [72] - Quote ThePrayNSpray is the best heavy in the game.
ThePrayNSpray Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:02:00 - [73] - Quote TheSprayNPray2 wrote: ThePrayNSpray is the best heavy in the game. Awwww thank you
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 1819	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:03:00 - [74] - Quote Long Evity wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: preston is definetly a lonewolf killer he doesnt need a team when he is a 1 man army. He's not doing much atm bro. 8/13 just now 19/18 the battle before and he was dropping the OB's. I have others of him going negative in PC as well. No one besides Kalente Schiffer, James, and a rare few others are 1 man armies. But he is a beast no doubt about it. It's nearly impossible for a heavy to be consistent, we're too easy to counter. But if there was a guy out there who could do it - it's Preston. I dunno I like xsircampalot as well, like to see a t-dome of them. Spongly will always be best PC heavy in my book. or skeletor for dropping a 45 kill game with an hmg. Master naders: Geniuses at evening the odds. Favorite Skype: Zatara.Rought
TheSprayNPray2 Fatal Absolution 236	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:10:00 - [75] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Long Evity wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: preston is definetly a lonewolf killer he doesnt need a team when he is a 1 man army. He's not doing much atm bro. 8/13 just now 19/18 the battle before and he was dropping the OB's. I have others of him going negative in PC as well. No one besides Kalente Schiffer, James, and a rare few others are 1 man armies. But he is a beast no doubt about it. It's nearly impossible for a heavy to be consistent, we're too easy to counter. But if there was a guy out there who could do it - it's Preston. I dunno I like xsircampalot as well, like to see a t-dome of them. Spongly will always be best PC heavy in my book. or skeletor for dropping a 45 kill game with an hmg. lol skeletor <3 i feel so forgotten btw
Long Evity 654	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:11:00 - [76] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Long Evity wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: preston is definetly a lonewolf killer he doesnt need a team when he is a 1 man army. He's not doing much atm bro. 8/13 just now 19/18 the battle before and he was dropping the OB's. I have others of him going negative in PC as well. No one besides Kalente Schiffer, James, and a rare few others are 1 man armies. But he is a beast no doubt about it. It's nearly impossible for a heavy to be consistent, we're too easy to counter. But if there was a guy out there who could do it - it's Preston. I dunno I like xsircampalot as well, like to see a t-dome of them. Spongly will always be best PC heavy in my book. or skeletor for dropping a 45 kill game with an hmg. We're talking consistency in modern stats. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 1819	Posted - 2013.12.09 11:05:00 - [77] - Quote Long Evity wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Long Evity wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: preston is definetly a lonewolf killer he doesnt need a team when he is a 1 man army. He's not doing much atm bro. 8/13 just now 19/18 the battle before and he was dropping the OB's. I have others of him going negative in PC as well. No one besides Kalente Schiffer, James, and a rare few others are 1 man armies. But he is a beast no doubt about it. It's nearly impossible for a heavy to be consistent, we're too easy to counter. But if there was a guy out there who could do it - it's Preston. I dunno I like xsircampalot as well, like to see a t-dome of them. Spongly will always be best PC heavy in my book. or skeletor for dropping a 45 kill game with an hmg. We're talking consistency in modern stats. I'm really tired, but suffice it to say I have mad respect for Preston and that Anon team. But I will always consider spongly bestest. Master naders: Geniuses at evening the odds. Favorite Skype: Zatara.Rought
Superhero Rawdon The Generals General Tso's Alliance 113	Posted - 2013.12.09 18:45:00 - [78] - Quote .................. i bleed chocolate milk........and poop batarangs


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