DUST Search - i thought heavies were bad...

Dexter307 wrote:

As a HMG heavy i think the heavy is good as it is. Only a couple things need to change.

1. HMG needs a buff. My HMG is only good because its the proto HMG with proficiency 5 and a complex damage mod. The HMG accuracy is fine as it has no spread when standing still, and enough when moving to hit strafing targets. But the lower level HMGs without proficiency maxed feel to weak, I would recomend a damage buff but the game already has had its ttk lowered so mabey this isnt a good idea, but then again it seems only the ARs are killing to fast.

2. Sentinal skills need to be changed. The current bonus of 5% less overheat damage to self per level is not only bad for skilled players, but its not even the amarr bonus, its the sentinal one that ALL sentinals get. IMO the sentinal bonus should be 3% damage reduction from light weapons, sidearms, and explosives per level.

3. MOAR HEAVY STUFF! We need the other racial dropsuits, not just for heavys but for scouts as well. We also need more heavy weapons so were not stuck with one weapon.

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Assert Dominance Ahrendee's Wafflehouse 497	Posted - 2013.11.29 05:55:00 - [1] - Quote then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p get off the forums.
DeadlyAztec11 2294	Posted - 2013.11.29 06:00:00 - [2] - Quote Boom, exactly. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Vitharr Foebane Blood Money Mercenaries 279	Posted - 2013.11.29 06:11:00 - [3] - Quote As I say to all these threads... it aint the suit its the fact that we are stuck with an UP POS HMG. Once we get our heavy laser we WILL be feared again. How to make a Heavy Laser: 1.Take laser 2.Make it REALLY BIG 3.Give it to the heavy sobbing quietly in the corner.
Assert Dominance Ahrendee's Wafflehouse 500	Posted - 2013.11.29 06:17:00 - [4] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: As I say to all these threads... it aint the suit its the fact that we are stuck with an UP POS HMG. Once we get our heavy laser we WILL be feared again. he uses a HMG get off the forums.
Vitharr Foebane Blood Money Mercenaries 281	Posted - 2013.11.29 06:21:00 - [5] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: As I say to all these threads... it aint the suit its the fact that we are stuck with an UP POS HMG. Once we get our heavy laser we WILL be feared again. he uses a HMG and i'm sure he hides in one little corner with two dedicated logis with core focused rep on him and he never leaves that spot. that DOESN'T MAKE THE HMG A GOOD WEAPON. While I applaud his dedication to a weapon, that simply means with any other gun he would do even better. How to make a Heavy Laser: 1.Take laser 2.Make it REALLY BIG 3.Give it to the heavy sobbing quietly in the corner.
castba Penguin's March 219	Posted - 2013.11.29 07:23:00 - [6] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p Yep, he is a beast. Preston and Jacques Clayton are excellent measures of your 1-on-1 heavy abilities if you can catch them in a straight fight with no pesky mediums around. I Support SP Rollover
Virtual Riot The Vanguardians 95	Posted - 2013.11.29 07:23:00 - [7] - Quote That is by no means a valid reason to say the heavy is not UP If you are a great player, you will kick ass no matter what weapon or suit you are using, plain and simple.
Eurydice Itzhak State Patriots 243	Posted - 2013.11.29 07:25:00 - [8] - Quote castba wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p Yep, he is a beast. Preston and Jacques Clayton are excellent measures of your 1-on-1 heavy abilities if you can catch them in a straight fight with no pesky mediums around. Jacques Clayton is stupidly good. When he tries. I'll never forgive him for losing a FW for us by spamming his plasma cannon, doing nothing all game. COMMANDO IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD CLAYTON!
Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 129	Posted - 2013.11.29 07:25:00 - [9] - Quote Nah, I think he just carries fluxes. You need to realize your gun melts armor, not shields. So if I was to make a heavy fit my first goal would be to get as many people into armor as fast as possible. In comes proto flux paired with HMG in tight quarters, you ******* wreck face the logi just need to keep you repped and your nades stocked. Better yet just have the logi throw the nades too then you just need keep ammo in your gun. Any way the guy is a beast regardless, this is just how I plan to run my heavy setup after I proto my logi suit. Dedicated redline sniper, tower forger, nade spammer, protostomper, and mass driver.
Eurydice Itzhak State Patriots 243	Posted - 2013.11.29 07:34:00 - [10] - Quote Kal Kronos wrote: Nah, I think he just carries fluxes. You need to realize your gun melts armor, not shields. So if I was to make a heavy fit my first goal would be to get as many people into armor as fast as possible. In comes proto flux paired with HMG in tight quarters, you ******* wreck face the logi just need to keep you repped and your nades stocked. Better yet just have the logi throw the nades too then you just need keep ammo in your gun. Any way the guy is a beast regardless, this is just how I plan to run my heavy setup after I proto my logi suit. :( If youre not throwing core lucus, you're not really trying to win anything. Almost any weapon can melt shields faster than the time it takes to cook a flux, and if you can cook a flux you could've cooked a locus and killed them. Flux is only useful for destroying shields/equipment through walls.

MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 73	Posted - 2013.11.29 07:37:00 - [11] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: As I say to all these threads... it aint the suit its the fact that we are stuck with an UP POS HMG. Once we get our heavy laser we WILL be feared again. I want an autocannon. Accurate out to about 60m, good vs vehicles, a strong kick, about 3 rounds per second and anywhere from about 150-200 damage per shot, not really great at close quarters though. Base it off of this but made man portable and with a smaller barrel : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb6KsYE4X3I Also it must have a satisfying 'K-CHUNG' sound with shell ejection.
Happy Jack SD Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 20	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:53:00 - [12] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: :( If youre not throwing core lucus, you're not really trying to win anything. If you're not throwing core locus grenades you're actually TRYING to play this game "Have faith lest your unbelief consume you." -The Bleeding Chalice
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 588	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:54:00 - [13] - Quote heavys always do great with squad support but it does not change the fact that the HMG needs work SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 2271	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:56:00 - [14] - Quote So if I get 20-30 kills with a plasma cannon that instantly makes it not UP. Worst logic ever.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1313	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:58:00 - [15] - Quote yep most heavies are garbage, but once in a blue moon I do face really good heavies.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1803	Posted - 2013.11.29 20:00:00 - [16] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: So if I get 20-30 kills with a plasma cannon that instantly makes it not UP. Worst logic ever. Thank you You win DUST You Won Come on up because the price is right! Level 1 Forum Warrior I'm a bittervet, if I seem like a douche it's because of your stupidity
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2549	Posted - 2013.11.29 20:02:00 - [17] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p Preston is a GOOD heavy. NEVER THE LESS: He has heavy support from his team,logis repairhim, everyone revivies him and whats worst he has always 1 - 3 people following him around. The heavy is STILL UNDERPOWERED. He's just smart using the most Powerful Feature in this game: Teamwork. The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
Sleepy Zan 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 2867	Posted - 2013.11.29 20:04:00 - [18] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: So if I get 20-30 kills with a plasma cannon that instantly makes it not UP. Worst logic ever. Yeah, actually if people can get 20 or 30 kills with it against good players it's not UP. "Burn down their families and rape their homes!"
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 249	Posted - 2013.11.29 20:15:00 - [19] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: So if I get 20-30 kills with a plasma cannon that instantly makes it not UP. Worst logic ever. Yeah, actually if people can get 20 or 30 kills with it against good players it's not UP. Guys we all know that the Heavy is not Underpower when he have support. But to need logibro for a weapon to be viable it's bad balance. ...and may the FORGE be with you.
FAKIR REDETTa 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 7	Posted - 2013.11.29 20:15:00 - [20] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p Preston v.s faquira bluetta the guys who can own djinn kujo and djinn soul wit a ar gek wit 500 hp .

Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 636	Posted - 2013.11.29 20:43:00 - [21] - Quote As a HMG heavy i think the heavy is good as it is. Only a couple things need to change. 1. HMG needs a buff. My HMG is only good because its the proto HMG with proficiency 5 and a complex damage mod. The HMG accuracy is fine as it has no spread when standing still, and enough when moving to hit strafing targets. But the lower level HMGs without proficiency maxed feel to weak, I would recomend a damage buff but the game already has had its ttk lowered so mabey this isnt a good idea, but then again it seems only the ARs are killing to fast. 2. Sentinal skills nedd to be changed. The current bonus of 5% less overheat damage to self per level is not only bad for skilled players, but its not even the amarr bonus, its the sentinal one that ALL sentinals get. IMO the sentinal bonus should be 3% damage reduction from light weapons, sidearms, and explosives per level. 3. MOAR HEAVY STUFF! We need the other racial dropsuits, not just for heavys but for scouts as well. We also need more heavy weapons so were not stuck with one weapon. Worst Thread of the Week
Skeletor Voltron Fatal Absolution 25	Posted - 2013.11.29 21:10:00 - [22] - Quote Heavies aren't bad. Bad heavies are bad.
Cosgar ParagonX 8086	Posted - 2013.11.29 21:49:00 - [23] - Quote Suit = good Forge gun = good HMG = Baaaad Role = Millions of SP just to camp?! WTF? Content = Over a year and 3 suits and the same two weapons?! Double WTF? I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
nor asha Turbo Bros inc. 21	Posted - 2013.11.29 21:51:00 - [24] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: As I say to all these threads... it aint the suit its the fact that we are stuck with an UP POS HMG. Once we get our heavy laser we WILL be feared again. Also think about it. Minmatar Heavy suit super fast can get in range to use the HMG, while the Ammar heavyactully has a BONUS TO HEAVY LASERS. It's insulting.
nor asha Turbo Bros inc. 21	Posted - 2013.11.29 21:53:00 - [25] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: As a HMG heavy i think the heavy is good as it is. Only a couple things need to change. 1. HMG needs a buff. My HMG is only good because its the proto HMG with proficiency 5 and a complex damage mod. The HMG accuracy is fine as it has no spread when standing still, and enough when moving to hit strafing targets. But the lower level HMGs without proficiency maxed feel to weak, I would recomend a damage buff but the game already has had its ttk lowered so mabey this isnt a good idea, but then again it seems only the ARs are killing to fast. 2. Sentinal skills need to be changed. The current bonus of 5% less overheat damage to self per level is not only bad for skilled players, but its not even the amarr bonus, its the sentinal one that ALL sentinals get. IMO the sentinal bonus should be 3% damage reduction from light weapons, sidearms, and explosives per level. 3. MOAR HEAVY STUFF! We need the other racial dropsuits, not just for heavys but for scouts as well. We also need more heavy weapons so were not stuck with one weapon. It's like a child came up with the bonuses, or they were trolling CCP and wanted to take down the company.
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 955	Posted - 2013.11.29 21:58:00 - [26] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p yo once i saw this guy go 0 and 27 in a pub match with the Assault Rifle so ya, the AR needs a buff i think There is a strong chance you won't like what I have to say.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... 62	Posted - 2013.11.29 22:00:00 - [27] - Quote Heavy you say? Well someone just dont know about lolcus thingy and duvolle. They get melted as fast as scouts due to 100% headshoot rate. (Who cant shoot big a-º-º hev head :d). Heavies are only viable with logis. And in corners. Maps are open hah. And dont you guys want more 2 slayer/support logis (scan,rev,duvolle ,tank) than logi+heavy? (1-2lolcus 2kills)
noob cavman A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 227	Posted - 2013.11.30 00:09:00 - [28] - Quote Preston runs around alot on his own with little support from us. He never camps a corner and is running around the whole damn place with hmg and fig 8 strafing to ruin everyone's day My view on knives..... I DON'T KNOW WHAT IM DOING @_@
Happy Jack SD Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 24	Posted - 2013.11.30 01:55:00 - [29] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: then i watch Preston from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. get 20-30 every PC, destroying the best of players. so ya, GET GUD :p yo once i saw this guy go 0 and 27 in a pub match with the Assault Rifle so ya, the AR needs a buff i think This is consistent play in PC, not lolPubs. Reading comprehension "Have faith lest your unbelief consume you." -The Bleeding Chalice
Joeboa A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 4	Posted - 2013.12.03 15:10:00 - [30] - Quote You guys have a completely false perception of how Preston plays, with the exception of noob caveman of course. We never follow him with reps and he never hides in a corner. Just keep guessing on how it's done. Also, 35-60 kills in PC is probably more accurate.



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