Well actually it's 5.5% with the skill. And if you a Cal Logi you getting almost 7% extra from ADV to PRO.

But this is true of A LOT of mods. PRO Armor plates seem less worthwhile compared to ADV when considering PG/CPU. Same with Dampeners...Actually most mods work this way outside of Extenders.

Regulators are far from worthless...rechargers/energizers are the worthless ones as to equip you MUST remove HP. Not viable in the current game.

Regulators are the only thing that actually balances shields v armor right now. And even then it's arguable because armor can be healed outside of own reps.

Nah, regulators and rechargers/energizers are both worthless because if you don't have at least a little extra HP for tank, chances are you die right after you lose all your shields.

For partial shield loss, the delay is short enough that you can manage your regen without the use of regulators/rechargers.

If I give up a shield extender I've found it's better to do so for a damage mod vs. CPU-eating energizers/rechargers.

We also have to sacrifice HP for damage while an armor tanker does not.

Only solution is to move damage mods to low slots

Armor tankers have to sacrifice HP to fit any reps.
Armor tankers have to sacrifice HP to fit biotics to mitigate the penalty from plates.
Armor tankers have to sacrifice HP to fit PG/CPU mods.
Armor tankers have to sacrifice HP to fit dampeners, hacking mods, range amplifiers.

I'm a shield tanker and realize there is an imbalance but in terms of mods alone shields have the advantage.

Armor tankers have to sacrifice HP to fit any reps.
Armor tankers have to sacrifice HP to fit biotics to mitigate the penalty from plates.
Armor tankers have to sacrifice HP to fit PG/CPU mods.
Armor tankers have to sacrifice HP to fit dampeners, hacking mods, range amplifiers.

I'm a shield tanker and realize there is an imbalance but in terms of mods alone shields have the advantage.

I agree, even when I used the Caldari assault(Crome) I would never bother with regulator. The fitting bonus was nice back then tho. I can't see raising it to 50, that would make them OP. 30 would be acceptable.

How does the current bonus work now? Is it 2 percent per level? So whatever regulator you use becomes ten percent better?

Hit and run used to work when hit detection was still buggy. Now with short TTK and aim assist, if you don't have enough base HP, it's more like "get hit then die".

I run Cal Logi and pay a lot of attention to the builds that other Cal Logis/Cal Assaults use. Rarely have I seen a pure shield tanker (i.e. with only 90-150 armor), and when they do, their shields are maxed out. I myself run a basic plate or two, and a dampener or two, changing it up depending on what scanners the enemy uses.

Put it this way. I can think of a lot of encounters where I could've survived if I had just a little more HP. But I've never looked back and wished that I'd had a bit of a shorter shield delay, or a slightly higher shield regen rate. Typically, when you are able to fully regen your shields you're out of danger anyway, so a few seconds doesn't make a difference.

I think so, but it still isn't that noticeable.

Even with those sacrifices,it's all about survivability,something that tanking armor has over shield tanking in spades.

If you honestly think that shield tanking has any real advantage to armor tanking these day,well I don't want to call you nuts,but...

It's all about how long can you stay alive,armor tanking wins every time.

Shields do have some advantages, let's not kid ourselves.

I think a major imbalance right now simply lies in the weapons. The 2 best, most used, weapons both shatter shields and that alone is enough of a reason to armor tank.

Fix the weapons then we might have a chance to actually balance shields v armor.

As a shield tanker , I find my self using the enhanced shield regs far more then the complex because of their significantly lower fitting cost, and only giving -5% less to shield recharge delay, and depleted shield delay. complex shield regulators need a buff. They cost too much to much to use, and do not provide enough of a bonus to justify being used over the enhanced version. Hell, they all need a buff. You would need to stack a **** load to really notice a difference in the first place.



They should be like this:
Basic 25%
Enhanced 35%
Complex 50%

We do not have Any external source to heal us faster when compared to armor tankers, so we need something to allow us to get back into a fight sooner.

Regulator's stopped getting attention when energizer's where introduced... For the most part they have been forgotten about.

Just be happy they removed the pay to win complex reg's