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Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.27 15:59:00 -
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As a shield tanker , I find my self using the enhanced shield regs far more then the complex because of their significantly lower fitting cost, and only giving -5% less to shield recharge delay, and depleted shield delay. complex shield regulators need a buff. They cost too much to much to use, and do not provide enough of a bonus to justify being used over the enhanced version. Hell, they all need a buff. You would need to stack a **** load to really notice a difference in the first place.
Basic should be 25% Enhanced 35% Complex 45%
We do not have Any external source to heal us faster when compared to armor tankers, so we need something to allow us to to fight back.
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.27 16:13:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:Well actually it's 5.5% with the skill. And if you a Cal Logi you getting almost 7% extra from ADV to PRO.
But this is true of A LOT of mods. PRO Armor plates seem less worthwhile compared to ADV when considering PG/CPU. Same with Dampeners...Actually most mods work this way outside of Extenders.
Regulators are far from worthless...rechargers/energizers are the worthless ones as to equip you MUST remove HP. Not viable in the current game.
Regulators are the only thing that actually balances shields v armor right now. And even then it's arguable because armor can be healed outside of own reps. We also have to sacrifice HP for damage while an armor tanker does not.
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.27 16:34:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Nah, regulators and rechargers/energizers are both worthless because if you don't have at least a little extra HP for tank, chances are you die right after you lose all your shields.
For partial shield loss, the delay is short enough that you can manage your regen without the use of regulators/rechargers.
If I give up a shield extender I've found it's better to do so for a damage mod vs. CPU-eating energizers/rechargers. Well then you're probably not using to properly. Shield suits aren't meant to take a **** load of damage in one go. They're. Hit and run suits. the problem is that armor tankers are now able to heal faster then we can , which is currently placing us in the same situation as our hav counterparts. The scrambler rifles aren't too friendly either. If a proto gelente player is using one, he's probable stacking dam mods for it. A proto sir with prof 5, and 3-4 damage mods can pics I us off in 3-4 shots. How are we even supposed to compete with that? Even after the new weapons are released, the minny rifle still won't be able to dish out the same level of damage as the Sr.
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.27 16:57:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:I agree, even when I used the Caldari assault(Crome) I would never bother with regulator. The fitting bonus was nice back then tho. I can't see raising it to 50, that would make them OP. 30 would be acceptable.
How does the current bonus work now? Is it 2 percent per level? So whatever regulator you use becomes ten percent better? I think so, but it still isn't that noticeable.
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.27 17:26:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:
Even with those sacrifices,it's all about survivability,something that tanking armor has over shield tanking in spades.
If you honestly think that shield tanking has any real advantage to armor tanking these day,well I don't want to call you nuts,but...
It's all about how long can you stay alive,armor tanking wins every time.
Shields do have some advantages, let's not kid ourselves. I think a major imbalance right now simply lies in the weapons. The 2 best, most used, weapons both shatter shields and that alone is enough of a reason to armor tank. Fix the weapons then we might have a chance to actually balance shields v armor. we're also getting another rifle that does a shot load of damage, it may deal a little less to shields, but it'll still tare them apart.
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.27 17:32:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Zekain K wrote:As a shield tanker , I find my self using the enhanced shield regs far more then the complex because of their significantly lower fitting cost, and only giving -5% less to shield recharge delay, and depleted shield delay. complex shield regulators need a buff. They cost too much to much to use, and do not provide enough of a bonus to justify being used over the enhanced version. Hell, they all need a buff. You would need to stack a **** load to really notice a difference in the first place.
They should be like this: Basic 25% Enhanced 35% Complex 50%
We do not have Any external source to heal us faster when compared to armor tankers, so we need something to allow us to get back into a fight sooner. Regulator's stopped getting attention when energizer's where introduced... For the most part they have been forgotten about. Just be happy they removed the pay to win complex reg's Why would I be happy about that? They were the only ones actually worth using at the time.
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