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Benjamin Ciscko The Generals 241	Posted - 2013.11.26 01:58:00 - [31] - Quote Atiim wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Your doing it wrong use an assault you shoot 2 shots in the time it takes a breach to shoot one and between the 2 shots you do more damage it's only useful for 1 shooting DS and shield tanks. You do realize that shields have a base resistance of 10% against Forge Guns right? Yes, but the best shield tanks have 40% resist and 5.5k shield with 10% reduction that's 50% damage reduction. A Wykiromi breach proficiency, 5 two damages, and a rear hit will drop the shields by more than half on the best tank, on an average fit it wil insta pop it or come very close. Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........ Tanker/Logi Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2429	Posted - 2013.11.26 01:58:00 - [32] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I just want to fight other tanks every now a then....is that so much to ask. WORLD OF TANKS The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4327	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:00:00 - [33] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: True Adamance wrote: I just want to fight other tanks every now a then....is that so much to ask. WORLD OF TANKS PC cant run it. But why do I have to go to world of tanks to get 1v1 Tank v Tank gameplay. <--------- COD. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2431	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:00:00 - [34] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Atiim wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Your doing it wrong use an assault you shoot 2 shots in the time it takes a breach to shoot one and between the 2 shots you do more damage it's only useful for 1 shooting DS and shield tanks. You do realize that shields have a base resistance of 10% against Forge Guns right? Yes, but the best shield tanks have 40% resist and 5.5k shield with 10% reduction that's 50% damage reduction. A Wykiromi breach proficiency, 5 two damages, and a rear hit will drop the shields by more than half on the best tank, on an average fit it wil insta pop it or come very close. True and you have 5+ seconds to activate modules and start retreating. Couldnt do it? Then you were way in the open. Thats not how its done. Most good tankers i have issues killing ABUSE greatly Terrain and Cover..... To an Extent i can only hit them only ONCE before they are already behind cover. Then there are the ones that wait to play MANUS PEAK and run around in circles in the middle of the map. LOL. U dead. AGREE. FG should be rendered a LOT better for tankers (this is a top priority CCP) And Swarms should NOT be invisible. The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2431	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:03:00 - [35] - Quote True Adamance wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: True Adamance wrote: I just want to fight other tanks every now a then....is that so much to ask. WORLD OF TANKS PC cant run it. But why do I have to go to world of tanks to get 1v1 Tank v Tank gameplay. <--------- COD. I have what i want here Adamance. I aint the one complaining. (funny , you know i;'ve NEVER played a CoD? i cant even critizise it. I've always been a Doom/Quake/U.Tournament,MAG,BF3 kind of player...) The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1371	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:05:00 - [36] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Atiim wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Your doing it wrong use an assault you shoot 2 shots in the time it takes a breach to shoot one and between the 2 shots you do more damage it's only useful for 1 shooting DS and shield tanks. You do realize that shields have a base resistance of 10% against Forge Guns right? Yes, but the best shield tanks have 40% resist and 5.5k shield with 10% reduction that's 50% damage reduction. A Wykiromi breach proficiency, 5 two damages, and a rear hit will drop the shields by more than half on the best tank, on an average fit it wil insta pop it or come very close. True and you have 5+ seconds to activate modules and start retreating. Couldnt do it? Then you were way in the open. Thats not how its done. Most good tankers i have issues killing ABUSE greatly Terrain and Cover..... To an Extent i can only hit them only ONCE before they are already behind cover. Then there are the ones that wait to play MANUS PEAK and run around in circles in the middle of the map. LOL. U dead. AGREE. FG should be rendered a LOT better for tankers (this is a top priority CCP) And Swarms should NOT be invisible. 5 Seconds? Not even dude hardners and nitrous mods activate instantly. The only mod that takes 5 seconds to activate is the repper, and usually that's not much when I can shoot to 50% resistance to all weaponry in a matter of seconds Most tankers just don't like the idea of doing anything but running and gunning. And yeah, SL and FG rendering does need to be fixed. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4327	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:06:00 - [37] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: True Adamance wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: True Adamance wrote: I just want to fight other tanks every now a then....is that so much to ask. WORLD OF TANKS PC cant run it. But why do I have to go to world of tanks to get 1v1 Tank v Tank gameplay. <--------- COD. I have what i want here Adamance. I aint the one complaining. (funny , you know i;'ve NEVER played a CoD? i cant even critizise it. I've always been a Doom/Quake/U.Tournament,MAG,BF3 kind of player...) Yup because Infy= King Infy don't want to play realistic games where Artillery bombards tanks and soldiers alike, they don't like playing games where helicopters can gun them down in droves before they can pull out that RPG, or a tank can thunder through cover to flank them unexpectedly. They also apparently don't like Tank turrets doing proportionate damage or having advanced targeting features. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals 241	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:07:00 - [38] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I just want to fight other tanks every now a then....is that so much to ask. I know I was retreating after get hit by 3 swarms and 3 AV nades if not more, then I get hit by 2-3 proto swarms drive behind a small wall concealing me from the swarms because it would take to long to go any further. I attempt to recall when my armor drops below 1000 because the swarms pulled a 90 degree turn around the wall so I can not recall. A final volley soon finishes me off. 5 minutes later he pulls out a Scat Ion fit Madrugar, so it is clear he has over a million in tanks probably at least 4 but he is too scared to actually pull his tank out to fight me. Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........ Tanker/Logi Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1371	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:07:00 - [39] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I just want to fight other tanks every now a then....is that so much to ask. I just don't want to play a game of Tank 514 where I can either drive my tank, or get laughed at as I am gunned down by HAVs because my AV is too weak to even be considered a threat. Is that to much to ask? Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4327	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:08:00 - [40] - Quote Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: I just want to fight other tanks every now a then....is that so much to ask. I just don't want to play a game of Tank 514 where I can either drive my tank, or get laughed at as I am gunned down by HAVs because my AV is too weak to even be considered a threat. Is that to much to ask? But the game is already AR/ SL 514. There is not balance right now. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"

KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2433	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:09:00 - [41] - Quote True Adamance wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: True Adamance wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: True Adamance wrote: I just want to fight other tanks every now a then....is that so much to ask. WORLD OF TANKS PC cant run it. But why do I have to go to world of tanks to get 1v1 Tank v Tank gameplay. <--------- COD. I have what i want here Adamance. I aint the one complaining. (funny , you know i;'ve NEVER played a CoD? i cant even critizise it. I've always been a Doom/Quake/U.Tournament,MAG,BF3 kind of player...) Yup because Infy= King Infy don't want to play realistic games where Artillery bombards tanks and soldiers alike, they don't like playing games where helicopters can gun them down in droves before they can pull out that RPG, or a tank can thunder through cover to flank them unexpectedly. They also apparently don't like Tank turrets doing proportionate damage or having advanced targeting features. I cant answer since i didnt understand.Remember my main language is NOT english. So no need to be sarcastic, you can say the stuff more directly. The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 906	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:15:00 - [42] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: I think the FG should at least have a drop off in the projectile if not the damage. CoD or BF3 player spotted! Why everyone gets so excited about screwing the other players fun is baffling. We have (today, 2013) many system to compensate for bullet drop, range determination and compensation for them. It would most certainly be in play a gazillion years in the future. Also, why add the complexity so the game becomes even less fun than it is now? The game borders on boredom more often than not, yet the forums want the variety to be removed and to add complexity (that CCP/Shanghai would be hard pressed to code correctly) to further bog down our ancient PS3s. Insta-Killing a tank cannot happen, whether on a tower or not. Depending on many factors a clip or more is often required. Do the math Merc. That amount of seconds does not equate to insta kills. Also, Forge Guns used to be infinite as did Rail Tanks. Now Tanks are limited to 599m and FG are at 299m. Get some facts right before you tune to the whine channel.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1353	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:16:00 - [43] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: True Adamance wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: True Adamance wrote: I just want to fight other tanks every now a then....is that so much to ask. WORLD OF TANKS PC cant run it. But why do I have to go to world of tanks to get 1v1 Tank v Tank gameplay. <--------- COD. Because this is a FPS and Infantry has the right to be able to defend themselves in order to have fun PLUS, I have what i want here Adamance. I aint the one complaining. (funny , you know i;'ve NEVER played a CoD? i cant even critizise it. I've always been a Doom/Quake/U.Tournament,MAG,BF3 kind of player...) You want every FPS to remove vehicles. Why don't you just go play Call of Duty? Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1373	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:16:00 - [44] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: I just want to fight other tanks every now a then....is that so much to ask. I just don't want to play a game of Tank 514 where I can either drive my tank, or get laughed at as I am gunned down by HAVs because my AV is too weak to even be considered a threat. Is that to much to ask? But the game is already AR/ SL 514. There is not balance right now. Because making Tank 514 a living reality is definitely gonna create balance Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2433	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:16:00 - [45] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: I just want to fight other tanks every now a then....is that so much to ask. I just don't want to play a game of Tank 514 where I can either drive my tank, or get laughed at as I am gunned down by HAVs because my AV is too weak to even be considered a threat. Is that to much to ask? But the game is already AR/ SL 514. There is not balance right now. AGREED... BUT INSTEAD OF BALANCE, tankers want to completely flip the coin, and make it Tank514. And there is where Atiim and me come in... The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals 241	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:17:00 - [46] - Quote One problem I have is that if an FG gets behind me he can hit me with 4 shots and I go pop this is because he out shoots my rep. ideally I can take 7 proto FG shots maybe 8 (no rear hits and my rep cycles completely) but because of the delay in rep time and cycle time it takes half that. Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........ Tanker/Logi Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2433	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:17:00 - [47] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: You want every FPS to remove vehicles. Why don't you just go play Call of Duty? Putting words in my mouth is an old and ineffective trick. Its sad you are still doing this, more proof you are running out of arguments. The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2434	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:19:00 - [48] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: One problem I have is that if an FG gets behind me he can hit me with 4 shots and I go pop this is because he out shoots my rep. ideally I can take 7 proto FG shots maybe 8 (no rear hits and my rep cycles completely) but because of the delay in rep time and cycle time it takes half that. HAHAHAH 7 maybe 8 PROTO FG SHOTS? Ok lets say you can take that much. What prevents you from always kicking in afterburners after the 2 nd shot and run away, with NO possibility of EVER dying? Pfft u mad bro.... The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4330	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:19:00 - [49] - Quote Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: I just want to fight other tanks every now a then....is that so much to ask. I just don't want to play a game of Tank 514 where I can either drive my tank, or get laughed at as I am gunned down by HAVs because my AV is too weak to even be considered a threat. Is that to much to ask? But the game is already AR/ SL 514. There is not balance right now. Because making Tank 514 a living reality is definitely gonna create balance No making tanks do what they are supposed to do isn't a bad thing. You know how badly I want the damn Large Blast turret gone from this game. MBC or nothing, skill shot, AOE, 1-3 mag cap, cannon. Tanks carry vehicle, building, and cover busting ordinance, sure we can kill infantry with a direct hit, or maybe shrapnel..... but HAV cannon don't kill infantry....if you want us using team work to do our job just improve the small turrets significantly and make them our Anti Infantry weapons that we cant even use without support. That way you cannot complain if we are rolling around with AoE battle cannon that fire slowly, have high alpha, and our gunners are doing our infantry killing. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals 241	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:25:00 - [50] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: I just want to fight other tanks every now a then....is that so much to ask. I just don't want to play a game of Tank 514 where I can either drive my tank, or get laughed at as I am gunned down by HAVs because my AV is too weak to even be considered a threat. Is that to much to ask? But the game is already AR/ SL 514. There is not balance right now. AGREED... BUT INSTEAD OF BALANCE, tankers want to completely flip the coin, and make it Tank514. And there is where Atiim and me come in... There is a cap on vehicles, also once you hit 4 HAV's it begins to get crowded and tanks will bump into and back over other tanks to get away. If their playing properly they will roll in pairs, simply get a DS with a good gunner on a good turret to separate them and single out an HAV and destroy it, quite simple. Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........ Tanker/Logi Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have

Benjamin Ciscko The Generals 241	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:27:00 - [51] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: One problem I have is that if an FG gets behind me he can hit me with 4 shots and I go pop this is because he out shoots my rep. ideally I can take 7 proto FG shots maybe 8 (no rear hits and my rep cycles completely) but because of the delay in rep time and cycle time it takes half that. HAHAHAH 7 maybe 8 PROTO FG SHOTS? Ok lets say you can take that much. What prevents you from always kicking in afterburners after the 2 nd shot and run away, with NO possibility of EVER dying? Pfft u mad bro.... I don't use it not enough PG on my fit. Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........ Tanker/Logi Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4334	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:29:00 - [52] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: I just want to fight other tanks every now a then....is that so much to ask. I just don't want to play a game of Tank 514 where I can either drive my tank, or get laughed at as I am gunned down by HAVs because my AV is too weak to even be considered a threat. Is that to much to ask? But the game is already AR/ SL 514. There is not balance right now. AGREED... BUT INSTEAD OF BALANCE, tankers want to completely flip the coin, and make it Tank514. And there is where Atiim and me come in... Face Palm....... We used to be able to talk reasonably Checkmate, Atiim has corrupted you and you and I cannot discuss our Tank vs AV balance reasonably. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1373	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:30:00 - [53] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: AGREED... BUT INSTEAD OF BALANCE, tankers want to completely flip the coin, and make it Tank514. And there is where Atiim and me come in... There is a cap on vehicles, also once you hit 4 HAV's it begins to get crowded and tanks will bump into and back over other tanks to get away. If their playing properly they will roll in pairs, simply get a DS with a good gunner on a good turret to separate them and single out an HAV and destroy it, quite simple. Not enough room for 7 HAVs? Have you even been to maps like Manus Peak? And that tactic requires a pilot so how would that help balance things in terms of infantry? Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4334	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:32:00 - [54] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: I just want to fight other tanks every now a then....is that so much to ask. I just don't want to play a game of Tank 514 where I can either drive my tank, or get laughed at as I am gunned down by HAVs because my AV is too weak to even be considered a threat. Is that to much to ask? But the game is already AR/ SL 514. There is not balance right now. Because making Tank 514 a living reality is definitely gonna create balance No making tanks do what they are supposed to do isn't a bad thing. You know how badly I want the damn Large Blast turret gone from this game. MBC or nothing, skill shot, AOE, 1-3 mag cap, cannon. Tanks carry vehicle, building, and cover busting ordinance, sure we can kill infantry with a direct hit, or maybe shrapnel..... but HAV cannon don't kill infantry....if you want us using team work to do our job just improve the small turrets significantly and make them our Anti Infantry weapons that we cant even use without support. That way you cannot complain if we are rolling around with AoE battle cannon that fire slowly, have high alpha, and our gunners are doing our infantry killing. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals 241	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:34:00 - [55] - Quote Atiim wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: AGREED... BUT INSTEAD OF BALANCE, tankers want to completely flip the coin, and make it Tank514. And there is where Atiim and me come in... There is a cap on vehicles, also once you hit 4 HAV's it begins to get crowded and tanks will bump into and back over other tanks to get away. If their playing properly they will roll in pairs, simply get a DS with a good gunner on a good turret to separate them and single out an HAV and destroy it, quite simple. Not enough room for 7 HAVs? Have you even been to maps like Manus Peak? And that tactic requires a pilot so how would that help balance things in terms of infantry? Lol Manus peak with 7 moving HAV's tell me that's not an accident waiting to happen. The tanker needs another tanker for the support and teamwork why shouldn't the infantry have to use teamwork? Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........ Tanker/Logi Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1375	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:41:00 - [56] - Quote True Adamance wrote: No making tanks do what they are supposed to do isn't a bad thing. You know how badly I want the damn Large Blast turret gone from this game. MBC or nothing, skill shot, AOE, 1-3 mag cap, cannon. Tanks carry vehicle, building, and cover busting ordinance, sure we can kill infantry with a direct hit, or maybe shrapnel..... but HAV cannon don't kill infantry....if you want us using team work to do our job just improve the small turrets significantly and make them our Anti Infantry weapons that we cant even use without support. That way you cannot complain if we are rolling around with AoE battle cannon that fire slowly, have high alpha, and our gunners are doing our infantry killing. (Thanks for bumping this, I actually couldn't find it again for some reason) As long as the small turrets don't do something ridiculous like 600hp per shot or something. I do think that this sounds like a good idea, but the odds of it happening are the same odds of Void Echo saying that "I was wrong to want tanks to be the best answer and counter to everything". I doubt CCP would ever be willing to implement anything that manages to slightly represent this idea. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2438	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:45:00 - [57] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: I just want to fight other tanks every now a then....is that so much to ask. I just don't want to play a game of Tank 514 where I can either drive my tank, or get laughed at as I am gunned down by HAVs because my AV is too weak to even be considered a threat. Is that to much to ask? But the game is already AR/ SL 514. There is not balance right now. AGREED... BUT INSTEAD OF BALANCE, tankers want to completely flip the coin, and make it Tank514. And there is where Atiim and me come in... There is a cap on vehicles, also once you hit 4 HAV's it begins to get crowded and tanks will bump into and back over other tanks to get away. If their playing properly they will roll in pairs, simply get a DS with a good gunner on a good turret to separate them and single out an HAV and destroy it, quite simple. So i must be a DS driver and have at least 4 Specialist AV in my team to ensure a fun game? YOU OBVIOUSLY havnt been TANK Stomped in your LIFE. I know what it is to get in a game with a bunch of randoms and the enemy douches bring down 6 tanks and red line us. VERY,effin,FUN. The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2438	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:46:00 - [58] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Atiim wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: AGREED... BUT INSTEAD OF BALANCE, tankers want to completely flip the coin, and make it Tank514. And there is where Atiim and me come in... There is a cap on vehicles, also once you hit 4 HAV's it begins to get crowded and tanks will bump into and back over other tanks to get away. If their playing properly they will roll in pairs, simply get a DS with a good gunner on a good turret to separate them and single out an HAV and destroy it, quite simple. Not enough room for 7 HAVs? Have you even been to maps like Manus Peak? And that tactic requires a pilot so how would that help balance things in terms of infantry? Lol Manus peak with 7 moving HAV's tell me that's not an accident waiting to happen. The tanker needs another tanker for the support and teamwork why shouldn't the infantry have to use teamwork? I've seen a LOT> A SHI** of tankers Soloing games and doing Good. With ''UP'' Tanks as they are. Im not sure what Tankers using teamwork you are talking about bro. The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....**
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5317	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:48:00 - [59] - Quote I want to one-hit-kill a fully beefed up tank with a standard level nova knife without the charge. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4335	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:49:00 - [60] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: So i must be a DS driver and have at least 4 Specialist AV in my team to ensure a fun game? YOU OBVIOUSLY havnt been TANK Stomped in your LIFE. I know what it is to get in a game with a bunch of randoms and the enemy douches bring down 6 tanks and red line us. VERY,effin,FUN. Dunno....what about that game I saved your ground pounding assess because I killed 5 enemy tanks for you? You can't tank stomp if your ground guys aren't winning the matches. Tanks can only go as far as infantry go. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"



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