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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:19:00 -
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they think 3 shotting any dropship and insta killing tanks with a forge gun all the way across the map with 100% invincibility and/or on a tower is balanced and thats what's meant for, i kept telling them how unbalanced that is and they say "thats your opinion" and i said ccp is looking at balancing it and they said "thats CCP's" opinion"
i REALLY hate av'r's, thier so ignorant(if i used it right).
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:19:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:they think 3 shotting any dropship and insta killing tanks with a forge gun all the way across the map with 100% invincibility and/or on a tower is balanced and thats what's meant for, i kept telling them how unbalanced that is and they say "thats your opinion" and i said ccp is looking at balancing it and they said "thats CCP's" opinion"
i REALLY hate av'r's, thier so ignorant(if i used it right).
yeah
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:22:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:they think 3 shotting any dropship and insta killing tanks with a forge gun all the way across the map with 100% invincibility and/or on a tower is balanced and thats what's meant for, i kept telling them how unbalanced that is and they say "thats your opinion" and i said ccp is looking at balancing it and they said "thats CCP's" opinion"
i REALLY hate av'r's, thier so ignorant(if i used it right).
Correction.Me being a BREACH FORGEGUNNER (Prof 5, 2 Cx Dam Mods)
GÖª 1 Shot DS
GÖª 1 Shot Most LAVs
GÖªTanks take all the way up to 3-4 shots, of a slow firing weapon, on a HEAVY , slow moving dropsuit, that CANT move while charging a shot.
Tankers are just full of whine....
The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1366
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:24:00 -
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[Will post in 5 min]
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
140
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:28:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:they think 3 shotting any dropship and insta killing tanks with a forge gun all the way across the map with 100% invincibility and/or on a tower is balanced and thats what's meant for, i kept telling them how unbalanced that is and they say "thats your opinion" and i said ccp is looking at balancing it and they said "thats CCP's" opinion"
i REALLY hate av'r's, thier so ignorant(if i used it right). Correction.Me being a BREACH FORGEGUNNER (Prof 5, 2 Cx Dam Mods) GÖª 1 Shot DS
GÖª 1 Shot Most LAVs
GÖªTanks take all the way up to 3-4 shots, of a slow firing weapon, on a HEAVY , slow moving dropsuit, that CANT move while charging a shot.Tankers are just full of whine....
im not talking about the breach, just the regular or assault, they said (read OP) that insta killing is ok and even in redline/tower spamming if balanced.
btw atim STAY OUT i dont need more av'r's pissing me off
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
140
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:31:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:they think 3 shotting any dropship and insta killing tanks with a forge gun all the way across the map with 100% invincibility and/or on a tower is balanced and thats what's meant for, i kept telling them how unbalanced that is and they say "thats your opinion" and i said ccp is looking at balancing it and they said "thats CCP's" opinion"
i REALLY hate av'r's, thier so ignorant(if i used it right). yeah
yeah what? i tried 10 minutes telling them how easily killing every vehicle on a tower, redline, or high place is unbalanced, they wouldn't listen they kept saying it's your opinion
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:31:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Patrick57 wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:they think 3 shotting any dropship and insta killing tanks with a forge gun all the way across the map with 100% invincibility and/or on a tower is balanced and thats what's meant for, i kept telling them how unbalanced that is and they say "thats your opinion" and i said ccp is looking at balancing it and they said "thats CCP's" opinion"
i REALLY hate av'r's, thier so ignorant(if i used it right). yeah yeah what? i tried 10 minutes telling them how easily killing every vehicle on a tower, redline, or high place is unbalanced, they wouldn't listen they kept saying it's your opinion
yeah
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1367
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:32:00 -
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I personally don't believe that AV should insta-kill vehicles.
Especially from a high tower or all the way across the map.
Unless the vehicle is MLT. Then it shouldn't even be called out.
Was it at least a breach?
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
140
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:35:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I personally don't believe that AV should insta-kill vehicles.
Especially from a high tower or all the way across the map.
Unless the vehicle is MLT. Then it shouldn't even be called out.
Was it at least a breach?
nope, mostly assault, and im fine with MLT vehicles bring destroyed
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:36:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:they think 3 shotting any dropship and insta killing tanks with a forge gun all the way across the map with 100% invincibility and/or on a tower is balanced and thats what's meant for, i kept telling them how unbalanced that is and they say "thats your opinion" and i said ccp is looking at balancing it and they said "thats CCP's" opinion"
i REALLY hate av'r's, thier so ignorant(if i used it right). Correction.Me being a BREACH FORGEGUNNER (Prof 5, 2 Cx Dam Mods) GÖª 1 Shot DS
GÖª 1 Shot Most LAVs
GÖªTanks take all the way up to 3-4 shots, of a slow firing weapon, on a HEAVY , slow moving dropsuit, that CANT move while charging a shot.Tankers are just full of whine.... im not talking about the breach, just the regular or assault, they said (read OP) that insta killing is ok and even in redline/tower spamming is balanced. btw atim STAY OUT i dont need more av'r's pissing me off
Insta killing is NOT ok. Not even a Dropship should be insta killed by my FG.(2hits should be fine, giving him time ti flee or take cover, i mea it is 6 SECS after the first shot XD)
But with Modules Running , a MAddy wont fall to my breach FG doing MASSIVE damage even with 2-5 shots. All this time, im unprotected (I dont tower camp) and vulerable to Tanks,DS, and other Infantry.
Now. I do know i HAVE insta killed tanks. I wont lie. But they are MLT tanks.
I do agree MLT tanks need to be less effective , but similar in resistance to STD tanks, same as MLT and STD dropsuits are alike (bar of 1 slot ,but equal HP)
I kind of,see you point. Nothing should INSTA KILL a vehicle (except MLT/STD LAVs), but considering the weapon im using, the proficiency, the 2 Cx dam mods, and running a HEAVY... i think
DS: 2 shots
LLAVs: 2-3 shots
STD - MLT - SLAVs : 1
Tanks MLT- 2
Any other tank- 2+
This , WITHOUT modules....
IMO that is.
The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals
241
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:36:00 -
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I didn't make it Atiim and CheckMate were too fast.
Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........
Tanker/Logi
Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals
241
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:39:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:they think 3 shotting any dropship and insta killing tanks with a forge gun all the way across the map with 100% invincibility and/or on a tower is balanced and thats what's meant for, i kept telling them how unbalanced that is and they say "thats your opinion" and i said ccp is looking at balancing it and they said "thats CCP's" opinion"
i REALLY hate av'r's, thier so ignorant(if i used it right). Correction.Me being a BREACH FORGEGUNNER (Prof 5, 2 Cx Dam Mods) GÖª 1 Shot DS
GÖª 1 Shot Most LAVs
GÖªTanks take all the way up to 3-4 shots, of a slow firing weapon, on a HEAVY , slow moving dropsuit, that CANT move while charging a shot.Tankers are just full of whine....
Your doing it wrong use an assault you shoot 2 shots in the time it takes a breach to shoot one and between the 2 shots you do more damage it's only useful for 1 shooting DS and shield tanks.
Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........
Tanker/Logi
Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4325
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:40:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:they think 3 shotting any dropship and insta killing tanks with a forge gun all the way across the map with 100% invincibility and/or on a tower is balanced and thats what's meant for, i kept telling them how unbalanced that is and they say "thats your opinion" and i said ccp is looking at balancing it and they said "thats CCP's" opinion"
i REALLY hate av'r's, thier so ignorant(if i used it right).
inb4atimkingchechmateaceofjokersmonkeymac
Da hell am I in that minor reference to bitter tanker vs aver combat!
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals
241
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:41:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:they think 3 shotting any dropship and insta killing tanks with a forge gun all the way across the map with 100% invincibility and/or on a tower is balanced and thats what's meant for, i kept telling them how unbalanced that is and they say "thats your opinion" and i said ccp is looking at balancing it and they said "thats CCP's" opinion"
i REALLY hate av'r's, thier so ignorant(if i used it right). Correction.Me being a BREACH FORGEGUNNER (Prof 5, 2 Cx Dam Mods) GÖª 1 Shot DS
GÖª 1 Shot Most LAVs
GÖªTanks take all the way up to 3-4 shots, of a slow firing weapon, on a HEAVY , slow moving dropsuit, that CANT move while charging a shot.Tankers are just full of whine.... im not talking about the breach, just the regular or assault, they said (read OP) that insta killing is ok and even in redline/tower spamming is balanced. btw atim STAY OUT i dont need more av'r's pissing me off Insta killing is NOT ok. Not even a Dropship should be insta killed by my FG.(2hits should be fine, giving him time ti flee or take cover, i mea it is 6 SECS after the first shot XD) But with Modules Running , a MAddy wont fall to my breach FG doing MASSIVE damage even with 2-5 shots. All this time, im unprotected (I dont tower camp) and vulerable to Tanks,DS, and other Infantry. Now. I do know i HAVE insta killed tanks. I wont lie . But they are MLT tanks.I do agree MLT tanks need to be less effective , but similar in resistance to STD tanks, same as MLT and STD dropsuits are alike (bar of 1 slot ,but equal HP) I kind of,see you point. Nothing should INSTA KILL a vehicle (except MLT/STD LAVs), but considering the weapon im using, the proficiency, the 2 Cx dam mods, and running a HEAVY... i think DS: 2 shots LDS:3 LLAVs: 2-3 shots STD - MLT - SLAVs : 1 Tanks MLT- 2 Any other tank- 2+ This , WITHOUT modules.... IMO that is.
Sounds reasonable but very vague.
Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........
Tanker/Logi
Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1367
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:41:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:
Your doing it wrong use an assault you shoot 2 shots in the time it takes a breach to shoot one and between the 2 shots you do more damage it's only useful for 1 shooting DS and shield tanks.
You do realize that shields have a base resistance of 10% against Forge Guns right?
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
141
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:41:00 -
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kingcheckmate, i don't mind if the breach FG got balanced, but 2700 dmg at pro seems, stupid and tower camp material
5 sec charge time with 2400-2500 dmg at pro or remove it as it will ohk any python with hardener down because its air so it's easy to see
or reduce it's range to make it area denial
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:43:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:they think 3 shotting any dropship and insta killing tanks with a forge gun all the way across the map with 100% invincibility and/or on a tower is balanced and thats what's meant for, i kept telling them how unbalanced that is and they say "thats your opinion" and i said ccp is looking at balancing it and they said "thats CCP's" opinion"
i REALLY hate av'r's, thier so ignorant(if i used it right). Correction.Me being a BREACH FORGEGUNNER (Prof 5, 2 Cx Dam Mods) GÖª 1 Shot DS
GÖª 1 Shot Most LAVs
GÖªTanks take all the way up to 3-4 shots, of a slow firing weapon, on a HEAVY , slow moving dropsuit, that CANT move while charging a shot.Tankers are just full of whine.... Your doing it wrong use an assault you shoot 2 shots in the time it takes a breach to shoot one and between the 2 shots you do more damage it's only useful for 1 shooting DS and shield tanks.
Im not doing it wrong. I prefer 1 Shotting DS and LAVs because aiming a FG depending on the distance and my location might be troublesome. an ISH ASSAULT FG will never 1HKO a DS/LAV unless its a MLT without modules. And after the first shot they are VERY likely to FLEE leaving me without a vehicle destroy.
I've been doing this for enough time Benjamin, have some faith.
The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
141
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:43:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:
Your doing it wrong use an assault you shoot 2 shots in the time it takes a breach to shoot one and between the 2 shots you do more damage it's only useful for 1 shooting DS and shield tanks.
You do realize that shields have a base resistance of 10% against Forge Guns right?
they have **** reps and hardeners(1.6)
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1353
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:43:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:they think 3 shotting any dropship and insta killing tanks with a forge gun all the way across the map with 100% invincibility and/or on a tower is balanced and thats what's meant for, i kept telling them how unbalanced that is and they say "thats your opinion" and i said ccp is looking at balancing it and they said "thats CCP's" opinion"
i REALLY hate av'r's, thier so ignorant(if i used it right). Correction.Me being a BREACH FORGEGUNNER (Prof 5, 2 Cx Dam Mods) GÖª 1 Shot DS
GÖª 1 Shot Most LAVs
GÖªTanks take all the way up to 3-4 shots, of a slow firing weapon, on a HEAVY , slow moving dropsuit, that CANT move while charging a shot.Tankers are just full of whine....
But why should it be so much more powerful than a railgun?
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals
241
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:43:00 -
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I think the FG should at least have a drop off in the projectile if not the damage.
Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........
Tanker/Logi
Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:45:00 -
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Am I supposed to be reading this thread? Tanks are being reworked in 1.7, wait until then to judge how effective the Forge Gun is against vehicles.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
141
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:45:00 -
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kingcheckmate, i've shot a MOVING LLAV with a forge gun on a tower easily, near a bridge, its kinda easy(regular adv)
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:47:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:kingcheckmate, i don't mind if the breach FG got balanced, but 2700 dmg at pro seems, stupid and tower camp material
5 sec charge time with 2400-2500 dmg at pro or remove it as it will ohk any python with hardener down because its air so it's easy to see
*6 secs charge in theory
GÖª Tower camping is what should be FIXED
GÖª You cannot penalize a AV player that is already using a HEAVY crap suit , a Weapon that takes 5+ secs to charge, while he CANT move, having a HUGE hitbox, just because some EZ moder douches tower camp.....
The weapon IS designed to be a HARD hitting counter vs Vehicles. And thats how it should stay. Its a piece of crap outside hitting LAV's and DS, because a Tank can activate its modules and flee , and im stuck there with a charged shot with nothing to hit.
XTRA NOTE: That the BREACH FG is ALSO the one with LESS SPLASH DAMAGE and Splash area,so even infantry sniping takes some skill...
The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1367
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:47:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:kingcheckmate, i've shot a MOVING LLAV with a forge gun on a tower easily, near a bridge, its kinda easy(regular adv)
Then that LLAV had a crappy pilot, or wasn't moving at top speed.
And you say this as if every single person who uses AV camps on a tower or in the redline.
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:49:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:kingcheckmate, i've shot a MOVING LLAV with a forge gun on a tower easily, near a bridge, its kinda easy(regular adv)
Depends:
GÖªWhat LAV?
GÖªWhat FG where you using?
GÖªIf you are Tower camping it gets easier, again , i dont tower camp
GÖªDoes the enemy posess Snipers countering your tower camp? yes? MLT snipers? XD OR THALES?
Most Vehicle drivers kill something once and assume its always easy. as someone who plays solo a great deal of time, AVing, WITH a Breach FG, vs Corp squads,vs Good vehicle drivers with well fitted vehicles, ITS NOT EASY.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1369
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:51:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
i REALLY hate av'r's, thier so ignorant(if i used it right).
Because the HAV pilot's "I should be the best or only counter to myself, I'll be damned if anything else hurts me" ideal is perfectly fine and definitely not ignorant at all.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1369
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:51:00 -
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Also, who the f*** is Vala?
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1353
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:55:00 -
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Atiim wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
i REALLY hate av'r's, thier so ignorant(if i used it right).
Because the HAV pilot's "I should be the best or only counter to myself, I'll be damned if anything else hurts me" ideal is perfectly fine and definitely not ignorant at all.
Why do you need such a huge crutch with PRO AV?
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4327
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:56:00 -
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I just want to fight other tanks every now a then....is that so much to ask.
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:57:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:they think 3 shotting any dropship and insta killing tanks with a forge gun all the way across the map with 100% invincibility and/or on a tower is balanced and thats what's meant for, i kept telling them how unbalanced that is and they say "thats your opinion" and i said ccp is looking at balancing it and they said "thats CCP's" opinion"
i REALLY hate av'r's, thier so ignorant(if i used it right). Correction.Me being a BREACH FORGEGUNNER (Prof 5, 2 Cx Dam Mods) GÖª 1 Shot DS
GÖª 1 Shot Most LAVs
GÖªTanks take all the way up to 3-4 shots, of a slow firing weapon, on a HEAVY , slow moving dropsuit, that CANT move while charging a shot.Tankers are just full of whine.... But why should it be so much more powerful than a railgun?
Im not saying it Should.
IMO you can have a Breach Rail gun (Turret) , with Same or MORE damage, same Splash radius some more splash damage.
Suit yourself....
Also, you can Have the 5+ Sec per shot RoF
and Wont be able to move while shooting.
FAIR huh..?
The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
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