DUST Search - Core Locus Grenades

Import Beercase wrote:

richiesutie 2 wrote:

Rei Shepard wrote:

Quote:

I do get peeved when I start shooting someone and they back around the corner, cook a nade, pop out and blow my face off, but that requires a modicum of skill and I respect their decision in the heat of the moment, but seriously, shoot back at me.

That doesnt take skill, it takes counting to 3, witch everyone on these forums should be able to do....

What does take skill is throwing a grenade though a window, from 20m bouncing of the right wall, and hitting the guy in the face that came from the left side with a ideally cooked grenade to the face...

I am not seeing those here....

I see the...

Oh **** i am almost dead, i better drop a grenade
Oh **** i am almost dead, i better back up a second and drop a grenade
Oh **** theres a room in front of me, better drop a grenade
Oh **** someones comming my way, better drop a grenade
Oh **** i got scanned, better drop a grenade overthere
Oh **** i see one guy in a suit, better drop a grenade
On second thought, i better drop 2 grenades
While we are at it, lets drop all grenades, i got a hive...no worries...
Yay i am on a roof Bitches!! Better start nading the sh*t out of everything below, while doing the "Can't Touch me" song in their head
Oh **** someone is shooting at me, better start cooking a grenade instead of aiming with my gun
Oh **** its a clusterfuck, better take out 2 hives and start spamming the shitz out of them

...versions that OHK you while they are at your feet...

I am fine with getting OHK when a grenade explodes at your face level, but they should do reduced damage when they are on the floor....like near your feet...

Quote:

Nope. Hear me out here.

KEEP THE DAMAGE. They should kill things. They're grenades. It's what they do.

REMOVE THE ABILITY TO COOK. REDUCE AMMO COUNT TO 2.

Why? Now they are tactical. You use them to force targets to vacate an area. Grenade goes down, they now have to move or die. Works great if they have to move into your line of fire as well Twisted

I am guessing this is your first FPS game then ....

All we need is NO grenades from a nano hive.

......Then we see how that turns out...

I am one of those cant touch me scrubs.. But I support Richiesuties 2 and others that feel that nanohives should only provide ammo for H L S weapons.

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1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 565	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:02:00 - [1] - Quote How do we, as a community, feel about them? The Sinwarden
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 788	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:04:00 - [2] - Quote People ***** about them and to be honest, it IS annoying to die from them but the big cost of equipping them CPU/PG - wise balances it out IMO. Smeehf.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 946	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:04:00 - [3] - Quote Spammable+OHK=OPashell [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered. REMOVE ALL BPOs
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5376	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:04:00 - [4] - Quote cries quietly in a corner Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Khemlar Maktaar Robbing The Hood Public Disorder. 34	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:05:00 - [5] - Quote Pretty much what fiz said spammable no skill and one hit kill 90% of the time
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5376	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:06:00 - [6] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Spammable+OHK=OPashell Don't forget the 14 metre blast zone. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Midas Fool T.R.I.A.D 204	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:07:00 - [7] - Quote It sucks to get killed by them, but to be fair, they are grenades...and that's what grenades do. Besides as Repe pointed out they're pretty hard to fit. They're also expensive to skill in to. If they weren't as strong as they are now then there would be little return for the investment required. This is coming from someone who does not use nor ever intends to use them (I do think grenades are a little cheap in any game). Just stay on your toes. For best results press R1 repeatedly. Consult your doctor if your erection persists for more than four hours.
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 999	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:08:00 - [8] - Quote With suits unable to fit all equipment without sacrificing one thing or another it is just one another thing that is draining CPU/PG. They need to increase CPU/PG on assaults so we do not have to choose between survivability or being competitive. Do not eat the yellow snow
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1890	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:10:00 - [9] - Quote calvin b wrote: With suits unable to fit all equipment without sacrificing one thing or another it is just another thing that is draining CPU/PG. They need to increase CPU/PG on assaults so we do not have to choose between survivability or being competitive. +1
Monkey MAC killer taxi company 1063	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:12:00 - [10] - Quote Looks at Mass Driver I wonder . . . . The pen is mightier than the sword The gun is mightier than both Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1

Vitharr Foebane Blood Money Mercenaries 266	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:13:00 - [11] - Quote Midas Fool wrote: It sucks to get killed by them, but to be fair, they are grenades...and that's what grenades do. Besides as Repe pointed out they're pretty hard to fit. They're also expensive to skill in to. If they weren't as strong as they are now then there would be little return for the investment required. This is coming from someone who does not use nor ever intends to use them (I do think grenades are a little cheap in any game). Just stay on your toes. Explain please how a heavy in his "optimal" area(enclosed spot so his HMG even stands a chance against lolARs) stays on his toes? How to make a Heavy Laser: 1.Take laser 2.Make it REALLY BIG 3.Give it to the heavy sobbing quietly in the corner.
Palatinate Fatal Absolution 85	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:16:00 - [12] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: cries quietly in a corner I see you have been deeply traumatized by them...
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1103	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:21:00 - [13] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: How do we, as a community, feel about them? They are... ...To easy to get SP wise ...OHK on any suit ...Not really hard to fit in any proto suit, regardless of what everyone is saying ...too easy to spam in a general direction ...combo's too easy with a proto hive for more spam in any given direction ...even too lethal at Militia level, capable of dealing 719 damage to my suit, also OHK most of my suit fits While everyone seem to agree on that guns shouldnt OHK people, or even kill them sub 1 second, it seems for most its just fine that grenades kill you in less then you can say "Dafuq"..... But then again, when you watch people on youtube, bitching about how people SPAM grandes to no end and ***, *** and biiiitch about it, but every time they see someone they are already tossing a grenade first, then if the second grenade fails, default to their gungame.....then something is wrong... And to be on the subject of grenades, that they are "Grenades" and should OHK people, in most shooters you are wearing a flak jacket and can survive near blasts pretty OK, but now that we are in the future where we hold miniature black hole generators in the version of guns that need time to penetrate shields then armor.....but hey ...look this magical grenade kills you in one toss... Grenades need to be toned down for 6 months already, they should come in handy when tactics ask for it, not come in handy at every possible scenario.... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 3140	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:23:00 - [14] - Quote Lol. They are totally balanced GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 3
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 948	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:25:00 - [15] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: How do we, as a community, feel about them? They are... ...To easy to get SP wise ...OHK on any suit ...Not really hard to fit in any proto suit, regardless of what everyone is saying ...too easy to spam in a general direction ...combo's too easy with a proto hive for more spam in any given direction ...even too lethal at Militia level, capable of dealing 719 damage to my suit, also OHK most of my suit fits While everyone seem to agree on that guns shouldnt OHK people, or even kill them sub 1 second, it seems for most its just fine that grenades kill you in less then you can say "Dafuq"..... But then again, when you watch people on youtube, bitching about how people SPAM grandes to no end and ***, * and biiiitch about it, but every time they see someone they are already tossing a grenade first, then if the second grenade fails, default to their gungame.....then something is wrong... And to be on the subject of grenades, that they are "Grenades" and should OHK people, in most shooters you are wearing a flak jacket and can survive near blasts pretty OK, but now that we are in the future where we hold miniature black hole generators in the version of guns that need time to penetrate shields then armor.....but hey ...look this magical grenade kills you in one toss... Grenades need to be toned down for 6 months already, they should come in handy when tactics ask for it, not come in handy at every possible scenario.... THIS. Grenades should supplement your gunplay, not replace it. OHK grenades need to go. Core Locus should do 250 damage. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94]** The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered. REMOVE ALL BPOs
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 914	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:25:00 - [16] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Explain please how a heavy in his "optimal" area(enclosed spot so his HMG even stands a chance against lolARs) stays on his toes? I use passive scanning to my advantage. It takes a scout to bypass it enough to hug me. It's like the Active Scanner, but always on. I don't meet many people willing to dampen this build, so I'm making them pay with my passives. It also helps that I keep cover nearby when I do get the off-chance meeting of three or more people with something higher than a standard Plasma Rifle. I can take two GEKs if they aren't heavily damage modded or are super dual tanking. Kind of reminds me of last night for my last game. Hopped into an Ambush, saw that was it a losing game it gave me. Whatever. Spawn. Walk forward, mow down five people with my HMG, backpedal, seemed to have stirred confusion. Team does nothing but sit there in awe as I'm limping back with a fraction of armor left. Laser in the back gets me. Okay. Respawn, team still doing nothing to help. WHATEVER. Push forward by myself, see eight guys cuddling one another in a corner, everyone too afraid to move. Get gunned down by them. Duvolle got me. I damaged all of them in the hopes team would push up. They didn't. They (the enemy) thought they were okay to move. I respawn. NOMNOMNOMNOM more kills because they thought they were okay to move. Firing squad of eight once again gets me. Damn laser guy. Game over. DEFEAT. I really can't see how people can knock on the HMG when it's pretty gnarly. I'm looking forward to putting prof. on it. It's an extremely underrated weapon apparently. Seeing the fear of an enemy team at the hands of a single HMG is enough for me to keep using it. The key to not being ganked is to be aware and I do so with the passive scanning. You literally have to drop on top of me or be dampened for me not to spot you. Added note: Since we are on the topic of grenades, I usually keep away from corners until I know for a fact that they're either stupidly going to charge me or after I see them throw those grenades. GNNNNNRRRRRRR! Nomnomnom. "I am a mercenary, I do as I need. I'll shed Amarrian blood for the freedom of my Minmitar allies but only for a price."
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 600	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:26:00 - [17] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Lol. They are totally balanced -INF Bad trolling KDR > ALL ME > KDR ME > ALL
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 19	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:26:00 - [18] - Quote I get killed by grenades very rarely cause I'm not in the clusterfuck that is the firefight in the middle of wherever the confrontation tends to be. That being said I forget I even have grenades most of the time unless I'm fighting a caldari shield tank (Carries flux grenades, a plasma cannon and a pistol on my scout main fitting.) Grenades should do exactly as they do now. They may be easy to spam but honestly a grenade kills what it explodes near in horrific effect on a real battlefield. The grenades are scaled to kill or severely injure on each tier of dropsuit. So yes, a proto nade should be able to kill a proto dropsuit or at the very least leave it in serious trouble and crippled for combat effectiveness and life expectancy . Dedicated scout. Because the suit is underpowered. Imagine the good ones when we get buffed people ;)
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 150	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:29:00 - [19] - Quote Grenade idea I had. What do you think? Contact WaTcHoUt1219 ZARTA for Logos. More are available. 500K ISK.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 2112	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:31:00 - [20] - Quote The logibro-heavy pair really suffers when a Core Locus grenade is thrown their way. Most usually the logibro instantly dies, leaving the heavy without the support it really needs. In this respect, we really need better grenade indicators to tone down the effectiveness of the grenades. Besides that, grenades are fine. I die to them more because I don't know where they are and walk over them rather than because they're spammed. I find the only situations where people can effectively spam grenades is when they don't have a direct line of sight and as such cannot effectively use the grenades. I do get peeved when I start shooting someone and they back around the corner, cook a nade, pop out and blow my face off, but that requires a modicum of skill and I respect their decision in the heat of the moment, but seriously, shoot back at me. Also, give heavies explosive damage resistance. It's too bloody easy to get them with a core locus because they can't bloody waddle away from the blast radius fast enough. "When nothing is going your way, go out of your way to do nothing."

Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1215	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:34:00 - [21] - Quote 27mil sp and i still don't have them 9/10 people would tell me i'm doing something wrong but i like my M1's and will be getting Core soo. But with my luck as soon as i get them they will be nerfed because from what i seen people would say they are OP. I say they are annoying and effective, maybe slightly OP but i can't really make that call since i never used them. For the Empire Dual tanking is a sin BPO's are bad for economy, Respec's are bad for the game. Want to fight about it?
Doc Noah Algintal Core Gallente Federation 889	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:37:00 - [22] - Quote Hate everyone that uses them including the guy above me who will soon be one of them.
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 527	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:43:00 - [23] - Quote Mass drivers get +10% area affect + 5% damage as you go from standard to advanced to prototype (plus the mass driver skill itself). That's a good progression - the area effect means more kills, and the 5% damage bonus is pretty standard between weapon tiers. Grenades, however, get +10% area effect + 25% extra damage as you go up tiers. That means there's a strong incentive to go proto, and also makes it hard to balance std/adv/pro because the damage is so wildly different. IMO, drop the +25% damage per level down to say, 10%. Locus: 400 damage @ 6m M1 Locus: 440 damage @ 6.6m Core locus: 480 damage @ 7.2m Still worth upgrading from std to adv, still worth going proto if possible, but less stupidly high alpha at stupidly high area. "Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)" GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 930	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:46:00 - [24] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: How do we, as a community, feel about them? They are... ...To easy to get SP wise ...OHK on any suit ...Not really hard to fit in any proto suit, regardless of what everyone is saying ...too easy to spam in a general direction ...combo's too easy with a proto hive for more spam in any given direction ...even too lethal at Militia level, capable of dealing 719 damage to my suit, also OHK most of my suit fits While everyone seem to agree on that guns shouldnt OHK people, or even kill them sub 1 second, it seems for most its just fine that grenades kill you in less then you can say "Dafuq"..... But then again, when you watch people on youtube, bitching about how people SPAM grandes to no end and ***, *** and biiiitch about it, but every time they see someone they are already tossing a grenade first, then if the second grenade fails, default to their gungame.....then something is wrong... And to be on the subject of grenades, that they are "Grenades" and should OHK people, in most shooters you are wearing a flak jacket and can survive near blasts pretty OK, but now that we are in the future where we hold miniature black hole generators in the version of guns that need time to penetrate shields then armor.....but hey ...look this magical grenade kills you in one toss... Grenades need to be toned down for 6 months already, they should come in handy when tactics ask for it, not come in handy at every possible scenario.... THIS. Grenades should supplement your gunplay, not replace it. OHK grenades need to go. Core Locus should do 250 damage. Nope. Hear me out here. KEEP THE DAMAGE. They should kill things. They're grenades. It's what they do. REMOVE THE ABILITY TO COOK. REDUCE AMMO COUNT TO 2. Why? Now they are tactical. You use them to force targets to vacate an area. Grenade goes down, they now have to move or die. Works great if they have to move into your line of fire as well "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1104	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:48:00 - [25] - Quote Quote: I do get peeved when I start shooting someone and they back around the corner, cook a nade, pop out and blow my face off, but that requires a modicum of skill and I respect their decision in the heat of the moment, but seriously, shoot back at me. That doesnt take skill, it takes counting to 3, witch everyone on these forums should be able to do.... What does take skill is throwing a grenade though a window, from 20m bouncing of the right wall, and hitting the guy in the face that came from the left side with a ideally cooked grenade to the face... I am not seeing those here.... I see the... Oh ** i am almost dead, i better drop a grenade Oh i am almost dead, i better back up a second and drop a grenade Oh theres a room in front of me, better drop a grenade Oh someones comming my way, better drop a grenade Oh i got scanned, better drop a grenade overthere Oh ** i see one guy in a suit, better drop a grenade On second thought, i better drop 2 grenades While we are at it, lets drop all grenades, i got a hive...no worries... Yay i am on a roof Bitches!! Better start nading the sht out of everything below, while doing the "Can't Touch me" song in their head Oh * someone is shooting at me, better start cooking a grenade instead of aiming with my gun Oh ** its a clusterfuck, better take out 2 hives and start spamming the shitz out of them ...versions that OHK you while they are at your feet... I am fine with getting OHK when a grenade explodes at your face level, but they should do reduced damage when they are on the floor....like near your feet... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Acturus Galaxy Happy Pumpkin 201	Posted - 2013.11.25 09:13:00 - [26] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: The logibro-heavy pair really suffers when a Core Locus grenade is thrown their way. Most usually the logibro instantly dies, leaving the heavy without the support it really needs. In this respect, we really need better grenade indicators to tone down the effectiveness of the grenades. Besides that, grenades are fine. I die to them more because I don't know where they are and walk over them rather than because they're spammed. I find the only situations where people can effectively spam grenades is when they don't have a direct line of sight and as such cannot effectively use the grenades. I do get peeved when I start shooting someone and they back around the corner, cook a nade, pop out and blow my face off, but that requires a modicum of skill and I respect their decision in the heat of the moment, but seriously, shoot back at me. Also, give heavies explosive damage resistance. It's too bloody easy to get them with a core locus because they can't bloody waddle away from the blast radius fast enough. I could not agree more, I used to run support logi but gave up on it as I died to grenades multiple times each match. Most often when keeping close to a heavy to rep him I get blown up by grenades I did not see. Have switched to scout and keeping away from the blue blob and instead go for flanking. Now I am rarely killed by grenades. Explosive resistance to the heavy class sounds like an excellent idea. He is too slow to escape core locus grenades. I have a few SP points in heavy and HMG, and the most used counter is grenades, how freaking annoying it is to have grenades thrown at me when I too slow to escape the blast radius while at the same time keeping an eye on the red assault player.
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 521	Posted - 2013.11.25 09:21:00 - [27] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Quote: I do get peeved when I start shooting someone and they back around the corner, cook a nade, pop out and blow my face off, but that requires a modicum of skill and I respect their decision in the heat of the moment, but seriously, shoot back at me. That doesnt take skill, it takes counting to 3, witch everyone on these forums should be able to do.... What does take skill is throwing a grenade though a window, from 20m bouncing of the right wall, and hitting the guy in the face that came from the left side with a ideally cooked grenade to the face... I am not seeing those here.... I see the... Oh ** i am almost dead, i better drop a grenade Oh i am almost dead, i better back up a second and drop a grenade Oh theres a room in front of me, better drop a grenade Oh someones comming my way, better drop a grenade Oh i got scanned, better drop a grenade overthere Oh ** i see one guy in a suit, better drop a grenade On second thought, i better drop 2 grenades While we are at it, lets drop all grenades, i got a hive...no worries... Yay i am on a roof Bitches!! Better start nading the sht out of everything below, while doing the "Can't Touch me" song in their head Oh * someone is shooting at me, better start cooking a grenade instead of aiming with my gun Oh its a clusterfuck, better take out 2 hives and start spamming the shitz out of them ...versions that OHK you while they are at your feet... I am fine with getting OHK when a grenade explodes at your face level, but they should do reduced damage when they are on the floor....like near your feet... Quote:** Nope. Hear me out here. KEEP THE DAMAGE. They should kill things. They're grenades. It's what they do. REMOVE THE ABILITY TO COOK. REDUCE AMMO COUNT TO 2. Why? Now they are tactical. You use them to force targets to vacate an area. Grenade goes down, they now have to move or die. Works great if they have to move into your line of fire as well Twisted I am guessing this is your first FPS game then .... All we need is NO grenades from a nano hive. ......Then we see how that turns out... compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
Import Beercase Beer For Evil Mercs 65	Posted - 2013.11.25 09:27:00 - [28] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Quote: I do get peeved when I start shooting someone and they back around the corner, cook a nade, pop out and blow my face off, but that requires a modicum of skill and I respect their decision in the heat of the moment, but seriously, shoot back at me. That doesnt take skill, it takes counting to 3, witch everyone on these forums should be able to do.... What does take skill is throwing a grenade though a window, from 20m bouncing of the right wall, and hitting the guy in the face that came from the left side with a ideally cooked grenade to the face... I am not seeing those here.... I see the... Oh ** i am almost dead, i better drop a grenade Oh i am almost dead, i better back up a second and drop a grenade Oh theres a room in front of me, better drop a grenade Oh someones comming my way, better drop a grenade Oh i got scanned, better drop a grenade overthere Oh ** i see one guy in a suit, better drop a grenade On second thought, i better drop 2 grenades While we are at it, lets drop all grenades, i got a hive...no worries... Yay i am on a roof Bitches!! Better start nading the sht out of everything below, while doing the "Can't Touch me" song in their head Oh * someone is shooting at me, better start cooking a grenade instead of aiming with my gun Oh its a clusterfuck, better take out 2 hives and start spamming the shitz out of them ...versions that OHK you while they are at your feet... I am fine with getting OHK when a grenade explodes at your face level, but they should do reduced damage when they are on the floor....like near your feet... Quote:** Nope. Hear me out here. KEEP THE DAMAGE. They should kill things. They're grenades. It's what they do. REMOVE THE ABILITY TO COOK. REDUCE AMMO COUNT TO 2. Why? Now they are tactical. You use them to force targets to vacate an area. Grenade goes down, they now have to move or die. Works great if they have to move into your line of fire as well Twisted I am guessing this is your first FPS game then .... All we need is NO grenades from a nano hive. ......Then we see how that turns out... I am one of those cant touch me scrubs.. But I support Richiesuties 2 and others that feel that nanohives should only provide ammo for H L S weapons. "If at first you don't succeed, mccdiving is not for you." Take me drunk, I'm home
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1440	Posted - 2013.11.25 09:30:00 - [29] - Quote Fix the grenade indicator, make grenades no replenishable through nanohives, decrease damage at edges of blast radius more than it is now, remove headshot damage of grenades. There, done. I feel like the grenades in this game are too easy to kill with because they're so aparent. In other games you don't see a lot of grenade spam because they're not as easy to replace and they don't have as big of a blast radius. In this game, you throw a grenade behind someone and they walk backwards onto it because they don't see the indicator anymore...or you die by a grenade because you turned around and had no time to react to the indicator that didn't appear...or you die because your pinky toe got caught in the blast radius as you're running away. Links: List of Important Topics I make logistics videos!
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1108	Posted - 2013.11.25 09:43:00 - [30] - Quote Import Beercase wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Quote: I do get peeved when I start shooting someone and they back around the corner, cook a nade, pop out and blow my face off, but that requires a modicum of skill and I respect their decision in the heat of the moment, but seriously, shoot back at me. That doesnt take skill, it takes counting to 3, witch everyone on these forums should be able to do.... What does take skill is throwing a grenade though a window, from 20m bouncing of the right wall, and hitting the guy in the face that came from the left side with a ideally cooked grenade to the face... I am not seeing those here.... I see the... Oh ** i am almost dead, i better drop a grenade Oh i am almost dead, i better back up a second and drop a grenade Oh theres a room in front of me, better drop a grenade Oh someones comming my way, better drop a grenade Oh i got scanned, better drop a grenade overthere Oh ** i see one guy in a suit, better drop a grenade On second thought, i better drop 2 grenades While we are at it, lets drop all grenades, i got a hive...no worries... Yay i am on a roof Bitches!! Better start nading the sht out of everything below, while doing the "Can't Touch me" song in their head Oh * someone is shooting at me, better start cooking a grenade instead of aiming with my gun Oh its a clusterfuck, better take out 2 hives and start spamming the shitz out of them ...versions that OHK you while they are at your feet... I am fine with getting OHK when a grenade explodes at your face level, but they should do reduced damage when they are on the floor....like near your feet... Quote:** Nope. Hear me out here. KEEP THE DAMAGE. They should kill things. They're grenades. It's what they do. REMOVE THE ABILITY TO COOK. REDUCE AMMO COUNT TO 2. Why? Now they are tactical. You use them to force targets to vacate an area. Grenade goes down, they now have to move or die. Works great if they have to move into your line of fire as well Twisted I am guessing this is your first FPS game then .... All we need is NO grenades from a nano hive. ......Then we see how that turns out... I am one of those cant touch me scrubs.. But I support Richiesuties 2 and others that feel that nanohives should only provide ammo for H L S weapons. That would work for me aswell Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"



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