How do we, as a community, feel about them?

How about by giving it a distinct audible indicator (Like an abnoxious beeping noise) while still keeping its ability to kill; thus when thrown at a group and everyone hears the BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP the GTFO and those that dont get blown to smitherines

They are...

...To easy to get SP wise
...OHK on any suit
...Not really hard to fit in any proto suit, regardless of what everyone is saying
...too easy to spam in a general direction
...combo's too easy with a proto hive for more spam in any given direction
...even too lethal at Militia level, capable of dealing 719 damage to my suit, also OHK most of my suit fits


While everyone seem to agree on that guns shouldnt OHK people, or even kill them sub 1 second, it seems for most its just fine that grenades kill you in less then you can say "Dafuq".....

But then again, when you watch people on youtube, bitching about how people SPAM grandes to no end and *****, ***** and biiiitch about it, but every time they see someone they are already tossing a grenade first, then if the second grenade fails, default to their gungame.....then something is wrong...

And to be on the subject of grenades, that they are "Grenades" and should OHK people, in most shooters you are wearing a flak jacket and can survive near blasts pretty OK, but now that we are in the future where we hold miniature black hole generators in the version of guns that need time to penetrate shields then armor.....but hey ...look this magical grenade kills you in one toss...


Grenades need to be toned down for 6 months already, they should come in handy when tactics ask for it, not come in handy at every possible scenario....

719 damage at militia? Even if I give militia locus grenades a 50% bonus it would only do 600 damage.

I am guessing this is your first FPS game then ....

719 damage at militia? Even if I give militia locus grenades a 50% bonus it would only do 600 damage.

I am guessing this is your first FPS game then ....

Headshot multiplier i have nade pics doing far more damage. I think Orca had one of a militia doing like 1500?

and if you dont have shields left on an Amarr assault with 533 armor, a militia will OHK you for 540 damage without headshot bonusses...

Ive played it, never used the grenade though

Yea because of the 35% extra armor damage you get from locus grenades.

I gave up on fixing the quotes.

Why not? It was dang useful to force people out of headglitches. IMO grenades are used to clear rooms, and if you remove the cook mechanic, you turn it into a utility weapon instead of a killing weapon.

You will see more people use it tactically instead of spamming them like hell trying to get kills. Since they can be easily avoided, idiots will waste all of their grenades, but skilled players can use them to great effectiveness (albeit in a specialized role, which is to force people to move from a location)

But then again, i once got mowed over by a Lav that hit the back of my shoe-sole for 10.000 damage...i doubt that counter is fool-proof they got at ccp

i remember being hit for far more then 719 from militia grenadesn, but i dont recall it exactly, the 719 happened yesterday and it dropped aprox 5 meters away from me and i laughed ....ill be OK! ....and theeeen it hit me ....so i doubt it was a headshot...