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xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:03:00 -
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that removing these bpo's opens the door for them to remove all bpo's
who will care when its their bpo LAV?
Sevr suit?
exile ar?
when will this action be too much for you to continue your support of a company that is careless with your money?
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
1758
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:09:00 -
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All they need to do is turn BPOs into a BPC maker.
Each day you get "x" number of BPCs from BPO "y". You can boost the productivity of your BPOs by using "resources" or AUR
Eg. I have a raven assault c-1 BPO. I would get (for example) 25 BPCs per day from the BPO. So in a week I'll get 175 (25x7=175) BPCs of my raven suit.
I can keep however many suits I want and then sell the rest on the p2p market for whatever price I see fit.
NOTE: these numbers are just examples of how my idea would work. Feel free to change the #s or ways to "boost" production.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
1037
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:15:00 -
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Put it this way, they have chosen to take out these BPO units for a reason, if they choose to do the same, but consider the reason why?
Player Market maybe?
The pen is mightier than the sword
The gun is mightier than both
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
885
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:18:00 -
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They would refund my Aurum spent. 19,800 Aurum refund for a suit I don't even use anymore? Yes Please.
[+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94]
Burner of faces.
The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
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Avallo Kantor
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
237
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:19:00 -
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This right here is what is called the "Slipper Slope" fallacy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope
The slippery slope basically posits that by taking one small steps, increasingly large and drastic steps are then going to come of it until one arrives at an extreme conclusion.
The reason these 4 module BPOs were removed were because the modules themselves are being removed, as part of the larger vehicle rebalancing. If these BPOs stayed in your inventory, they would become useless, and serve no purpose other than being able to see it in your inventory. Instead they opted to remove the BPOs as well as the base items, and issue a refund.
Items like the Sevr suit, and Exile ar are unlikely to be removed for much the same reason these BPOs were removed. They were removed because the relevant item NO LONGER EXISTS. For the Sevr and Exile BPOs to be removed in similar fashion would require that their respective suit and weapon be removed from the game in some future re-balancing. This, while in CCP's ability to do so, is highly unlikely to occur, and making wild accusations on such notions are unstable at best.
These changes to vehicles were posted over a month ago, and have been on the front page of this forum for that amount of time. It should have been readily obvious that any BPOs for any items that were getting removed were also going to be removed or modified in some manner. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
118
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:31:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Put it this way, they have chosen to take out these BPO units for a reason, if they choose to do the same, but consider the reason why?
Player Market maybe?
Smart . Using your brains . Can't people understand this type of reasoning ???? That would be a unmatched cash flow all at their expense and it would CRUSH the market and devalue everything causing inflation . It would kill the infancy stages for something that they had planned to introduce as a means of supply and demand that would not only have been a benefit to CCP but to ALL OF YOU as well .
I still want the market and with the BPO'S it would have made that hard to do because all of this uproar would have just transferred to , " Why can't I sell my BPO's for profit ...????.... I OWN THEM !!!! " I can hear it now and so could they . I'm sure if that wasn't the main reason , it dam well was one of them .
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
71
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:31:00 -
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Avallo Kantor wrote:This right here is what is called the "Slipper Slope" fallacy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slopeThe slippery slope basically posits that by taking one small steps, increasingly large and drastic steps are then going to come of it until one arrives at an extreme conclusion. The reason these 4 module BPOs were removed were because the modules themselves are being removed, as part of the larger vehicle rebalancing. If these BPOs stayed in your inventory, they would become useless, and serve no purpose other than being able to see it in your inventory. Instead they opted to remove the BPOs as well as the base items, and issue a refund. Items like the Sevr suit, and Exile ar are unlikely to be removed for much the same reason these BPOs were removed. They were removed because the relevant item NO LONGER EXISTS. For the Sevr and Exile BPOs to be removed in similar fashion would require that their respective suit and weapon be removed from the game in some future re-balancing. This, while in CCP's ability to do so, is highly unlikely to occur, and making wild accusations on such notions are unstable at best. These changes to vehicles were posted over a month ago, and have been on the front page of this forum for that amount of time. It should have been readily obvious that any BPOs for any items that were getting removed were also going to be removed or modified in some manner.
what if they remove tiered suits?
bye bye bpos
what if they remove militia gear?
bye bye bpos
what if they remove LAV's?
bye bye bpo's
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Jane Madson
DIRTY LAUNDRY 514
147
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:33:00 -
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Avallo Kantor wrote:This right here is what is called the "Slipper Slope" fallacy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slopeThe slippery slope basically posits that by taking one small steps, increasingly large and drastic steps are then going to come of it until one arrives at an extreme conclusion. The reason these 4 module BPOs were removed were because the modules themselves are being removed, as part of the larger vehicle rebalancing. If these BPOs stayed in your inventory, they would become useless, and serve no purpose other than being able to see it in your inventory. Instead they opted to remove the BPOs as well as the base items, and issue a refund. Items like the Sevr suit, and Exile ar are unlikely to be removed for much the same reason these BPOs were removed. They were removed because the relevant item NO LONGER EXISTS. For the Sevr and Exile BPOs to be removed in similar fashion would require that their respective suit and weapon be removed from the game in some future re-balancing. This, while in CCP's ability to do so, is highly unlikely to occur, and making wild accusations on such notions are unstable at best. These changes to vehicles were posted over a month ago, and have been on the front page of this forum for that amount of time. It should have been readily obvious that any BPOs for any items that were getting removed were also going to be removed or modified in some manner.
Perfect explanation. Everyone complaining about the removal and refind of a worthless bpo should copy this post and read it daily till you can understand thay you are not losing a usefull item from your inventory. +1 on this post
closed beta vet, lifetime fatty
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2272
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:34:00 -
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Avallo Kantor wrote:This right here is what is called the "Slipper Slope" fallacy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slopeThe slippery slope basically posits that by taking one small steps, increasingly large and drastic steps are then going to come of it until one arrives at an extreme conclusion. The reason these 4 module BPOs were removed were because the modules themselves are being removed, as part of the larger vehicle rebalancing. If these BPOs stayed in your inventory, they would become useless, and serve no purpose other than being able to see it in your inventory. Instead they opted to remove the BPOs as well as the base items, and issue a refund. Items like the Sevr suit, and Exile ar are unlikely to be removed for much the same reason these BPOs were removed. They were removed because the relevant item NO LONGER EXISTS. For the Sevr and Exile BPOs to be removed in similar fashion would require that their respective suit and weapon be removed from the game in some future re-balancing. This, while in CCP's ability to do so, is highly unlikely to occur, and making wild accusations on such notions are unstable at best. These changes to vehicles were posted over a month ago, and have been on the front page of this forum for that amount of time. It should have been readily obvious that any BPOs for any items that were getting removed were also going to be removed or modified in some manner.
The slippery slope fallacy starts with a relatively small issue, and balloons it into something preposterous. That is not the case here. We have started with the forcible removal of some BPOs, and it has been suggested that this means CCP is not averse to doing the same again in the future. There is no slope being traversed here.
What you are using is called the fallacy fallacy; where you dismiss an argument on the basis of it using a fallacy, without addressing any of the details of the argument itself.
No.
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Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
830
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:35:00 -
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xLuca Brasi wrote:that removing these bpo's opens the door for them to remove all bpo's
who will care when its their bpo LAV?
Sevr suit?
exile ar?
when will this action be too much for you to continue your support of a company that is careless with your money? actually in regards to taking away the exile dragonfly and any bpo purchased in a pack and not bought with aur would be illegal.
the only reason they can legally remove the bpo's that they are is because they are in market bpo's bought with aur ..so the purchase of the aur is the transaction that has a binding contract on it..not the in market purchase of bpo's with aur
however in the case of the exile lav bpo's and allot of other bpo's they were bought in packs off the psn...real money was exchanged for those specific items..do you understand the difference between the vehicle bpo's and the pack bpos explained thusly? |
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Thor McStrut
Reckoners
434
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:36:00 -
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xLuca Brasi wrote:that removing these bpo's opens the door for them to remove all bpo's
who will care when its their bpo LAV?
Sevr suit?
exile ar?
when will this action be too much for you to continue your support of a company that is careless with your money?
The only BPOs worth crying over are the Templars. Those cost serious cash to obtain (except for those who traded isk). Maybe the Dren stuff too. $100 is $100. Everything else is hardly worth the effort to QQ about. Save your energy, there are bigger worries then CCP ripping you off. |
xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
71
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:37:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:xLuca Brasi wrote:that removing these bpo's opens the door for them to remove all bpo's
who will care when its their bpo LAV?
Sevr suit?
exile ar?
when will this action be too much for you to continue your support of a company that is careless with your money? actually in regards to taking away the exile dragonfly and any bpo purchased in a pack and not bought with aur would be illegal. the only reason they can legally remove the bpo's that they are is because they are in market bpo's bought with aur ..so the purchase of the aur is the transaction that has a binding contract on it..not the in market purchase of bpo's with aur however in the case of the exile lav bpo's and allot of other bpo's they were bought in packs off the psn...real money was exchanged for those specific items..do you understand the difference between the vehicle bpo's and the pack bpos explained thusly?
in my interpretation its all real money....
the aur I bought when there were bpo's on the market is worth more than the aur they will give me now because there are no longer as attractive items for purchase.
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
830
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:38:00 -
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pretty much with the bpo's that they are removing players bough aur then they spent the aur in game for bpo's..thus the aur cannot be taken away from them..the bpo's can...
however with packs there was no mid way currency change if you bought a merc pack or elite pack those bpo's are legally untouchable by ccp they could not take away the vet pack bpo saga without replacing it with a bpo lav because of this
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xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
71
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:38:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:xLuca Brasi wrote:that removing these bpo's opens the door for them to remove all bpo's
who will care when its their bpo LAV?
Sevr suit?
exile ar?
when will this action be too much for you to continue your support of a company that is careless with your money? The only BPOs worth crying over are the Templars. Those cost serious cash to obtain (except for those who traded isk). Maybe the Dren stuff too. $100 is $100. Everything else is hardly worth the effort to QQ about. Save your energy, there are bigger worries then CCP ripping you off.
lol like what.
idk about you, but being ripped off trumps any content patch or bug fix to me...
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
73
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:40:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:pretty much with the bpo's that they are removing players bough aur then they spent the aur in game for bpo's..thus the aur cannot be taken away from them..the bpo's can...
however with packs there was no mid way currency change if you bought a merc pack or elite pack those bpo's are legally untouchable by ccp they could not take away the vet pack bpo saga without replacing it with a bpo lav because of this
but what if they removed LAV'S? then it would be worthless right? you would have a bpo you cant use...
do you see the folly in that argument yet?
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Thor McStrut
Reckoners
434
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:40:00 -
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xLuca Brasi wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:xLuca Brasi wrote:that removing these bpo's opens the door for them to remove all bpo's
who will care when its their bpo LAV?
Sevr suit?
exile ar?
when will this action be too much for you to continue your support of a company that is careless with your money? actually in regards to taking away the exile dragonfly and any bpo purchased in a pack and not bought with aur would be illegal. the only reason they can legally remove the bpo's that they are is because they are in market bpo's bought with aur ..so the purchase of the aur is the transaction that has a binding contract on it..not the in market purchase of bpo's with aur however in the case of the exile lav bpo's and allot of other bpo's they were bought in packs off the psn...real money was exchanged for those specific items..do you understand the difference between the vehicle bpo's and the pack bpos explained thusly? in my interpretation its all real money....the aur I bought when there were bpo's on the market is worth more than the aur they will give me now because there are no longer as attractive items for purchase.
The problem then is in your interpretation. It doesn't matter what you think. You can QQ all you want. All that matters is what is legal.
You can strike, lead a moral crusade, whatever. Have fun!
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
118
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:41:00 -
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Avallo Kantor wrote:This right here is what is called the "Slipper Slope" fallacy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slopeThe slippery slope basically posits that by taking one small steps, increasingly large and drastic steps are then going to come of it until one arrives at an extreme conclusion. The reason these 4 module BPOs were removed were because the modules themselves are being removed, as part of the larger vehicle rebalancing. If these BPOs stayed in your inventory, they would become useless, and serve no purpose other than being able to see it in your inventory. Instead they opted to remove the BPOs as well as the base items, and issue a refund. Items like the Sevr suit, and Exile ar are unlikely to be removed for much the same reason these BPOs were removed. They were removed because the relevant item NO LONGER EXISTS. For the Sevr and Exile BPOs to be removed in similar fashion would require that their respective suit and weapon be removed from the game in some future re-balancing. This, while in CCP's ability to do so, is highly unlikely to occur, and making wild accusations on such notions are unstable at best. These changes to vehicles were posted over a month ago, and have been on the front page of this forum for that amount of time. It should have been readily obvious that any BPOs for any items that were getting removed were also going to be removed or modified in some manner.
More reasoning . Stop being so angry people and listen to the voices of reason .
DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE ALREADY !!!!!
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
832
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:42:00 -
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xLuca Brasi wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:pretty much with the bpo's that they are removing players bough aur then they spent the aur in game for bpo's..thus the aur cannot be taken away from them..the bpo's can...
however with packs there was no mid way currency change if you bought a merc pack or elite pack those bpo's are legally untouchable by ccp they could not take away the vet pack bpo saga without replacing it with a bpo lav because of this
but what if they removed LAV'S? then it would be worthless right? you would have a bpo you cant use... do you see the folly in that argument yet? if they removed lavs entirely ..that would probably have real legal ramifications as i said those lavs cannot be touched..well at least the ones that came with the vet pack
but thats a hypothetical scenario that wont occur..and in regards to the vehicle bpo's they are removing it is 100% legal no one directly spent real life money on those bpo's without an aur midway transaction first |
xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
73
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:44:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:xLuca Brasi wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:pretty much with the bpo's that they are removing players bough aur then they spent the aur in game for bpo's..thus the aur cannot be taken away from them..the bpo's can...
however with packs there was no mid way currency change if you bought a merc pack or elite pack those bpo's are legally untouchable by ccp they could not take away the vet pack bpo saga without replacing it with a bpo lav because of this
but what if they removed LAV'S? then it would be worthless right? you would have a bpo you cant use... do you see the folly in that argument yet? if they removed lavs entirely ..that would probably have real legal ramifications as i said those lavs cannot be touched..well at least the ones that came with the vet pack
they could just give you the aur equivalent couldn't they?
EULA bro, EULA......
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
73
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:46:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:xLuca Brasi wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:xLuca Brasi wrote:that removing these bpo's opens the door for them to remove all bpo's
who will care when its their bpo LAV?
Sevr suit?
exile ar?
when will this action be too much for you to continue your support of a company that is careless with your money? actually in regards to taking away the exile dragonfly and any bpo purchased in a pack and not bought with aur would be illegal. the only reason they can legally remove the bpo's that they are is because they are in market bpo's bought with aur ..so the purchase of the aur is the transaction that has a binding contract on it..not the in market purchase of bpo's with aur however in the case of the exile lav bpo's and allot of other bpo's they were bought in packs off the psn...real money was exchanged for those specific items..do you understand the difference between the vehicle bpo's and the pack bpos explained thusly? in my interpretation its all real money....the aur I bought when there were bpo's on the market is worth more than the aur they will give me now because there are no longer as attractive items for purchase. The problem then is in your interpretation. It doesn't matter what you think. You can QQ all you want. All that matters is what is legal. You can strike, lead a moral crusade, whatever. Have fun!
It matters what I think if ccp wants my and those like minded's business.
between eve and dust ive spent close to a grand in a year.
how many 1000 dollar customers can they afford to lose?
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
886
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:47:00 -
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Players buy items for AUR.
Months later CCP makes changes to the system, the item that the Players bought will no longer be functional because of this. Instead of leaving the useless item in the players inventory, CCP gives the players a full AUR refund, even though nothing says they have to provide a refund at all.
Players resort to blackmail, silly legal action, and name calling.
CCP doesn't sound like the bad guy to me...
[+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94]
Burner of faces.
The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
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xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
77
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:49:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Players buy items for AUR.
Months later CCP makes changes to the system, the item that the Players bought will no longer be functional because of this. Instead of leaving the useless item in the players inventory, CCP gives the players a full AUR refund, even though nothing says they have to provide a refund at all.
Players resort to blackmail, silly legal action, and name calling.
CCP doesn't sound like the bad guy to me...
but the aur they are giving me is worth less than the aur I bought because items I could purchase before that had more value no longer exist....
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Thor McStrut
Reckoners
436
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:49:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Players buy items for AUR.
Months later CCP makes changes to the system, the item that the Players bought will no longer be functional because of this. Instead of leaving the useless item in the players inventory, CCP gives the players a full AUR refund, even though nothing says they have to provide a refund at all.
Players resort to blackmail, silly legal action, and name calling.
CCP doesn't sound like the bad guy to me...
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Rinas Rylos
Rinas' Raiders
68
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:49:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Avallo Kantor wrote:This right here is what is called the "Slipper Slope" fallacy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slopeThe slippery slope basically posits that by taking one small steps, increasingly large and drastic steps are then going to come of it until one arrives at an extreme conclusion. The reason these 4 module BPOs were removed were because the modules themselves are being removed, as part of the larger vehicle rebalancing. If these BPOs stayed in your inventory, they would become useless, and serve no purpose other than being able to see it in your inventory. Instead they opted to remove the BPOs as well as the base items, and issue a refund. Items like the Sevr suit, and Exile ar are unlikely to be removed for much the same reason these BPOs were removed. They were removed because the relevant item NO LONGER EXISTS. For the Sevr and Exile BPOs to be removed in similar fashion would require that their respective suit and weapon be removed from the game in some future re-balancing. This, while in CCP's ability to do so, is highly unlikely to occur, and making wild accusations on such notions are unstable at best. These changes to vehicles were posted over a month ago, and have been on the front page of this forum for that amount of time. It should have been readily obvious that any BPOs for any items that were getting removed were also going to be removed or modified in some manner. The slippery slope fallacy starts with a relatively small issue, and balloons it into something preposterous. That is not the case here. We have started with the forcible removal of some BPOs, and it has been suggested that this means CCP is not averse to doing the same again in the future. There is no slope being traversed here. What you are using is called the fallacy fallacy; where you dismiss an argument on the basis of it using a fallacy, without addressing any of the details of the argument itself.
Holy christ, I'm not sure where to begin with this. Okay, for starters; Removing BPOs for items that are no longer actually useful, and then leaping to suggest they'll abolish suit tiers and other important items? That's textbook slippery slope, and to think otherwise is just plain denial.
Second, you realize you're essentially defending someone who is just stirring fatalist crap up with little to actually back up their claims, right? Someone who makes posts just to attack the company without asking for a reason or anything beyond making wild claims and giving hypothetical effects. You can see luca's poor debate skills spread throughout the pages as they try and jump from the removal of these BPOs to the removal of LAVs. Yes, because that's certainly not just a fear mongering tactic used in an attempt to try and garner anger and panic without any actual backing to do so. |
Thor McStrut
Reckoners
436
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:50:00 -
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xLuca Brasi wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Players buy items for AUR.
Months later CCP makes changes to the system, the item that the Players bought will no longer be functional because of this. Instead of leaving the useless item in the players inventory, CCP gives the players a full AUR refund, even though nothing says they have to provide a refund at all.
Players resort to blackmail, silly legal action, and name calling.
CCP doesn't sound like the bad guy to me... but the aur they are giving me is worth less than the aur I bought because items I could purchase before that had more value no longer exist....
Fortunately, that is only your opinion, and thus holds no legal value. |
xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
77
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:54:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:xLuca Brasi wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Players buy items for AUR.
Months later CCP makes changes to the system, the item that the Players bought will no longer be functional because of this. Instead of leaving the useless item in the players inventory, CCP gives the players a full AUR refund, even though nothing says they have to provide a refund at all.
Players resort to blackmail, silly legal action, and name calling.
CCP doesn't sound like the bad guy to me... but the aur they are giving me is worth less than the aur I bought because items I could purchase before that had more value no longer exist.... Fortunately, that is only your opinion, and thus holds no legal value.
ever own a business?
customer opinion matters greatly.
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Thor McStrut
Reckoners
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:02:00 -
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xLuca Brasi wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:xLuca Brasi wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Players buy items for AUR.
Months later CCP makes changes to the system, the item that the Players bought will no longer be functional because of this. Instead of leaving the useless item in the players inventory, CCP gives the players a full AUR refund, even though nothing says they have to provide a refund at all.
Players resort to blackmail, silly legal action, and name calling.
CCP doesn't sound like the bad guy to me... but the aur they are giving me is worth less than the aur I bought because items I could purchase before that had more value no longer exist.... Fortunately, that is only your opinion, and thus holds no legal value. ever own a business? customer opinion matters greatly.
Until other customers realize the complainer is just a whiny, self-entitled brat. After working in customer service for many years, it's easy to spot the terrible customers. As a business owner, I neither want, nor support, those customers.
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xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
79
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:03:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:xLuca Brasi wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:xLuca Brasi wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Players buy items for AUR.
Months later CCP makes changes to the system, the item that the Players bought will no longer be functional because of this. Instead of leaving the useless item in the players inventory, CCP gives the players a full AUR refund, even though nothing says they have to provide a refund at all.
Players resort to blackmail, silly legal action, and name calling.
CCP doesn't sound like the bad guy to me... but the aur they are giving me is worth less than the aur I bought because items I could purchase before that had more value no longer exist.... Fortunately, that is only your opinion, and thus holds no legal value. ever own a business? customer opinion matters greatly. Until other customers realize the complainer is just a whiny, self-entitled brat. After working in customer service for many years, it's easy to spot the terrible customers. As a business owner, I neither want, nor support, those customers.
lol... so then, you've never owned a buisness
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Iyllaria Dai
Legions of Infinite Dominion
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Posted - 2013.11.24 02:06:00 -
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I own several and I would have told you to take your whiny business elsewhere.
You're just a whiny child who has never been told no. Get over it. You have no legal action, nor any legal recourse against CCP. All you are doing is being an attention *****.
As for another saying they legally cant remove BPO's from Merc packs, Sorry, but you're wrong. They can if they so decide and you have no legal leg to stand on there either.
It's funny how many whiny posts the OP has made on this subject. Guess what. You're no more special than anyone else who has been affected by changes, updates, etc.
Just because YOU don't find anything of value on the market doesn't make it CCP's fault. They are giving you a return on your investment. Don't like it, stop investing and go elsewhere. Go back to your P2W game model.
Let us adults enjoy some adult fun. |
xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.11.24 02:17:00 -
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Iyllaria Dai wrote:I own several and I would have told you to take your whiny business elsewhere.
You're just a whiny child who has never been told no. Get over it. You have no legal action, nor any legal recourse against CCP. All you are doing is being an attention *****.
As for another saying they legally cant remove BPO's from Merc packs, Sorry, but you're wrong. They can if they so decide and you have no legal leg to stand on there either.
It's funny how many whiny posts the OP has made on this subject. Guess what. You're no more special than anyone else who has been affected by changes, updates, etc.
Just because YOU don't find anything of value on the market doesn't make it CCP's fault. They are giving you a return on your investment. Don't like it, stop investing and go elsewhere. Go back to your P2W game model.
Let us adults enjoy some adult fun.
sir you need to calm down...
and I doubt your veracity that you've owned several businesses ....
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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