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Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1762	Posted - 2013.11.23 18:37:00 - [61] - Quote Logi OP anyways because you can tank it better than an assault I mean what you could do is remove the nade slot Make every fit invalid if all equipment slots are not filled - some will use basic equipment and still try to play it like an assault but what you gonna do, they filled the equip slots Possible logi skill change? i mean 5hp/s is a complex for free without taking up a slot or maybe make it more logi orientated For assaults make them faster movement wise and maybe better offensive skill to go with the suit
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 449	Posted - 2013.11.23 18:43:00 - [62] - Quote I'm gonna go ahead and put the fault for this squarely on the dumbed down fitting system used in DUST. First, removing hardpoints. In EVE the damage a ship is capable of is dictated largely by how many hardpoints it has. A ship with 8 turret hardpoints can deal 8/5ths the damage of a ship with five hardpoints, assuming all other things equal. In DUST a logi fits the same weapon as an assault. The trivial increase offered by suit bonuses is all that gives the assault a DPS edge. Second, trading high slots for specialized slots. Instead of having to sacrifice damage to fit high slot utility mods, we have a set amount of each we use. Once again, the logi ends up with the same weapon capabilities as the assault. Third, a max of five slots per power level just isn't enough, especially with one power level being eliminated. EVE's eight max was great, it gave you the possibility of a significant increase without being unreasonable. Proposed fix: HI/mid/lo slots, max of eight each. Keep heavy/light/sidearm/grenade slots, but have them no longer cost PG/CPU. They are now there solely to identify the weapon being used. Add heavy/light/sidearm/grenade hardpoints. These are how many high slots can be occupied by the appropriate weapon power cores. These linearly increase the damage of the corresponding weapon. Equipping none causes the weapon to do little or no damage. High slots that do not contain hard points would contain what are now considered equipment slot items. Result: the offensive power of logis becomes drastically reduced, and we are able to re-enter our role of combat support. Logis can be tanky as is often required to effectively perform their role, without becoming superior front line troops to assaults. Boom.
Eskel Bondfree DUST University Ivy League 174	Posted - 2013.11.23 19:12:00 - [63] - Quote Cat Merc, be an honest cat and change the word 'logi' in your post to 'prototype Gallente logi'. You will get multiple sardines from me for that.
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1092	Posted - 2013.11.23 19:14:00 - [64] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: gg JKl wrote: He has 3 complex dam mods with the imperial and hes exploiting the overheat as well... lol No I don't? Look at the shield bar. How do I get that much shielding without extenders? would be a good movie if not for the exploit with the overheat saving you from getting killed, why don't you just eat the death ? It gives all us day 1 SCR users a bad name. Where did I use it? I don't recall using it in that video - I've not used it lately, mostly because it's so broken. EDIT: And honestly, I shouldn't have done it, wherever I did it. Its more near the end, when theres a flood of enemy troops nearing your position it looks to me like its intentional so you could easely cut trough without having to worry about heat. You got good aim and seem to prefer defensive based gameplay, so i don't understand why you would need it. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5336	Posted - 2013.11.23 19:19:00 - [65] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: gg JKl wrote: He has 3 complex dam mods with the imperial and hes exploiting the overheat as well... lol No I don't? Look at the shield bar. How do I get that much shielding without extenders? would be a good movie if not for the exploit with the overheat saving you from getting killed, why don't you just eat the death ? It gives all us day 1 SCR users a bad name. Where did I use it? I don't recall using it in that video - I've not used it lately, mostly because it's so broken. EDIT: And honestly, I shouldn't have done it, wherever I did it. Its more near the end, when theres a flood of enemy troops nearing your position it looks to me like its intentional so you could easely cut trough without having to worry about heat. You got good aim and seem to prefer defensive based gameplay, so i don't understand why you would need it. Ah, I see what you mean. I feel bad now. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Erth Deteis Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 50	Posted - 2013.11.23 19:27:00 - [66] - Quote gg JKl wrote: He has 3 complex dam mods with the imperial and hes exploiting the overheat as well... lol What is the exploit??
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1094	Posted - 2013.11.23 19:45:00 - [67] - Quote Scheherazade VII wrote: This is what is destroying the game Proto gallente suit with 830hp (i think that's the MAX armour) scrambler rifle prof 5 3-4 complex damage mods. I'm not sure how many slots that pro gallente logi suit has so somebody help me with the maths. I'm assuming that with the mods and proficiency the SCR does 100hp per shot? that means starter fits die in 3 rounds, i.e less than a second. and how can you mathematically inflict that much damage on somebody like that before they kill you? you can't. hence invincibility hence 49-0 this isn't anything against the player, I know they are a forum-user. don't hate the player hate the game I guess but some people do take the **. People in starter fits die all the same if they get hit by a 3x damage modded duvolle, ie: before they can react... Quote:** Ah, I see what you mean. I feel bad now. Sad Personally idd have trouble sleeping...:p Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Oswald Rehnquist 659	Posted - 2013.11.23 20:16:00 - [68] - Quote Wow, I'm usually off on the sidelines hacking and and flanking so I don't normally get to see front line action to often for very long, but wow the suit and load out is so forgiving. Regardless I don't think other logis do 49-0 too often, so kudos on the score. Below 28 dB
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 20	Posted - 2013.11.23 20:26:00 - [69] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXa5GZszk8&t=9 Look at that. First of all, that Gallente logi has as much armor as my Gallente Assault has total eHP. He also has a passive 5hp/s regeneration, making him that much more tanky. That point where he was hacking a CRU and was almost killed? If it was an assault suit he would be dead. Also, notice how once the dude spawned he could see him? That's because Logis have lower scan precision than assaults (lower = better), and putting just one point into passive scanning he can already see all assaults, while they can't see him. Then there's the equipment. The scanner makes it so that unless he is hacking, no one can sneak on him. Then as soon as he takes damage he can just plop down a triage hive. Then resupply his ammo. The logi is literally a one man army. No wonder almost everyone I see in PC runs logi. what assaults can't carry triage hives? Just what in the world do you use tha equiment slot for? If anything the video demonstraed how insanely powerfull proto is vs mlt and standad. it was a perfect storm of Proto vs Militia.(when they kept running up the stairs catching grenades in the face lol) Good teamplay by sticking the fallen who benifited from the triage points as well. Dat plasma cannon guy that stuck around, plus that last stand, awesome video. His team lost anyway which speaks for itsself. *I fly I shoot I rep I tank/ Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/ I'm the Jack of all trades/ Master of Some
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 3940	Posted - 2013.11.23 20:27:00 - [70] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Cat Merc wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXa5GZszk8&t=9 Look at that. First of all, that Gallente logi has as much armor as my Gallente Assault has total eHP. He also has a passive 5hp/s regeneration, making him that much more tanky. That point where he was hacking a CRU and was almost killed? If it was an assault suit he would be dead. Also, notice how once the dude spawned he could see him? That's because Logis have lower scan precision than assaults (lower = better), and putting just one point into passive scanning he can already see all assaults, while they can't see him. Then there's the equipment. The scanner makes it so that unless he is hacking, no one can sneak on him. Then as soon as he takes damage he can just plop down a triage hive. Then resupply his ammo. The logi is literally a one man army. No wonder almost everyone I see in PC runs logi. what assaults can't carry triage hives? Just what in the world do you use tha equiment slot for? If anything the video demonstraed how insanely powerfull proto is vs mlt and standad. it was a perfect storm of Proto vs Militia.(when they kept running up the stairs catching grenades in the face lol) Good teamplay by sticking the fallen who benifited from the triage points as well. Dat plasma cannon guy that stuck around, plus that last stand, awesome video. His team lost anyway which speaks for itsself. Good luck fitting those on an Assault >_> Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.

Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5339	Posted - 2013.11.23 20:39:00 - [71] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Cat Merc wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXa5GZszk8&t=9 Look at that. First of all, that Gallente logi has as much armor as my Gallente Assault has total eHP. He also has a passive 5hp/s regeneration, making him that much more tanky. That point where he was hacking a CRU and was almost killed? If it was an assault suit he would be dead. Also, notice how once the dude spawned he could see him? That's because Logis have lower scan precision than assaults (lower = better), and putting just one point into passive scanning he can already see all assaults, while they can't see him. Then there's the equipment. The scanner makes it so that unless he is hacking, no one can sneak on him. Then as soon as he takes damage he can just plop down a triage hive. Then resupply his ammo. The logi is literally a one man army. No wonder almost everyone I see in PC runs logi. what assaults can't carry triage hives? Just what in the world do you use tha equiment slot for? If anything the video demonstraed how insanely powerfull proto is vs mlt and standad. it was a perfect storm of Proto vs Militia.(when they kept running up the stairs catching grenades in the face lol) Good teamplay by sticking the fallen who benifited from the triage points as well. Dat plasma cannon guy that stuck around, plus that last stand, awesome video. His team lost anyway which speaks for itsself. Good luck fitting those on an Assault >_> I use some on my assault as well. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 3940	Posted - 2013.11.23 20:40:00 - [72] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Cat Merc wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXa5GZszk8&t=9 Look at that. First of all, that Gallente logi has as much armor as my Gallente Assault has total eHP. He also has a passive 5hp/s regeneration, making him that much more tanky. That point where he was hacking a CRU and was almost killed? If it was an assault suit he would be dead. Also, notice how once the dude spawned he could see him? That's because Logis have lower scan precision than assaults (lower = better), and putting just one point into passive scanning he can already see all assaults, while they can't see him. Then there's the equipment. The scanner makes it so that unless he is hacking, no one can sneak on him. Then as soon as he takes damage he can just plop down a triage hive. Then resupply his ammo. The logi is literally a one man army. No wonder almost everyone I see in PC runs logi. what assaults can't carry triage hives? Just what in the world do you use tha equiment slot for? If anything the video demonstraed how insanely powerfull proto is vs mlt and standad. it was a perfect storm of Proto vs Militia.(when they kept running up the stairs catching grenades in the face lol) Good teamplay by sticking the fallen who benifited from the triage points as well. Dat plasma cannon guy that stuck around, plus that last stand, awesome video. His team lost anyway which speaks for itsself. Good luck fitting those on an Assault >_> I use some on my assault as well. Either you're an Amarr assault, who can actually fit that. Or you're a Gallente assault, which means that you heavily sacrifice on the rest of the suit to fit that. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5339	Posted - 2013.11.23 20:42:00 - [73] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Cat Merc wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXa5GZszk8&t=9 Look at that. First of all, that Gallente logi has as much armor as my Gallente Assault has total eHP. He also has a passive 5hp/s regeneration, making him that much more tanky. That point where he was hacking a CRU and was almost killed? If it was an assault suit he would be dead. Also, notice how once the dude spawned he could see him? That's because Logis have lower scan precision than assaults (lower = better), and putting just one point into passive scanning he can already see all assaults, while they can't see him. Then there's the equipment. The scanner makes it so that unless he is hacking, no one can sneak on him. Then as soon as he takes damage he can just plop down a triage hive. Then resupply his ammo. The logi is literally a one man army. No wonder almost everyone I see in PC runs logi. what assaults can't carry triage hives? Just what in the world do you use tha equiment slot for? If anything the video demonstraed how insanely powerfull proto is vs mlt and standad. it was a perfect storm of Proto vs Militia.(when they kept running up the stairs catching grenades in the face lol) Good teamplay by sticking the fallen who benifited from the triage points as well. Dat plasma cannon guy that stuck around, plus that last stand, awesome video. His team lost anyway which speaks for itsself. Good luck fitting those on an Assault >_> I use some on my assault as well. Either you're an Amarr assault, who can actually fit that. Or you're a Gallente assault, which means that you heavily sacrifice on the rest of the suit to fit that. I'm a Caldari assault. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 3940	Posted - 2013.11.23 20:43:00 - [74] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I use some on my assault as well. Either you're an Amarr assault, who can actually fit that. Or you're a Gallente assault, which means that you heavily sacrifice on the rest of the suit to fit that.[/quote] I'm a Caldari assault. [/quote] Then you're using a CPU extender, which is something a Gal Assault can't do with sacrificing his armor tank heavily. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
daishi mk03 BLACK-GUARD Die Fremdenlegion 404	Posted - 2013.11.23 20:45:00 - [75] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: Every decent player would have sent him to hell after 1 min (the CRU hacking scene). How can one not see that big red marker? Logi suit compensates for that No, nothing compensates for a Toxin SMG clip into your head.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 3940	Posted - 2013.11.23 20:47:00 - [76] - Quote daishi mk03 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: Every decent player would have sent him to hell after 1 min (the CRU hacking scene). How can one not see that big red marker? Logi suit compensates for that No, nothing compensates for a Toxin SMG clip into your head. That raises it's DPS to around 500-600. That logi has more armor than that, and that's not even including shields. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 990	Posted - 2013.11.23 21:29:00 - [77] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Cat Merc wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXa5GZszk8&t=9 Look at that. First of all, that Gallente logi has as much armor as my Gallente Assault has total eHP. He also has a passive 5hp/s regeneration, making him that much more tanky. That point where he was hacking a CRU and was almost killed? If it was an assault suit he would be dead. Also, notice how once the dude spawned he could see him? That's because Logis have lower scan precision than assaults (lower = better), and putting just one point into passive scanning he can already see all assaults, while they can't see him. Then there's the equipment. The scanner makes it so that unless he is hacking, no one can sneak on him. Then as soon as he takes damage he can just plop down a triage hive. Then resupply his ammo. The logi is literally a one man army. No wonder almost everyone I see in PC runs logi. what assaults can't carry triage hives? Just what in the world do you use tha equiment slot for? If anything the video demonstraed how insanely powerfull proto is vs mlt and standad. it was a perfect storm of Proto vs Militia.(when they kept running up the stairs catching grenades in the face lol) Good teamplay by sticking the fallen who benifited from the triage points as well. Dat plasma cannon guy that stuck around, plus that last stand, awesome video. His team lost anyway which speaks for itsself. Are you serious an assault if he build his suit around assaulting he will run out of CPU/PG before he can fit anything in the equipment slots. Now I could be wrong but I am still trying to build a tank suit that does not sacrifice damage output and survivability. So if anyone out there has any ideas how to do this I am all ears. Do not eat the yellow snow
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5345	Posted - 2013.11.23 22:12:00 - [78] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: Every decent player would have sent him to hell after 1 min (the CRU hacking scene). How can one not see that big red marker? Logi suit compensates for that No, nothing compensates for a Toxin SMG clip into your head. That raises it's DPS to around 500-600. That logi has more armor than that, and that's not even including shields. What actually compensated for it was the blueberry emptying a clip into his head. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 3942	Posted - 2013.11.23 22:18:00 - [79] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Cat Merc wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: Every decent player would have sent him to hell after 1 min (the CRU hacking scene). How can one not see that big red marker? Logi suit compensates for that No, nothing compensates for a Toxin SMG clip into your head. That raises it's DPS to around 500-600. That logi has more armor than that, and that's not even including shields. What actually compensated for it was the blueberry emptying a clip into his head. If you noticed, he took more HP from you than an assault that is considered beefy. If it wasn't a logi suit, you would be dead right there. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Zero Harpuia Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 1237	Posted - 2013.11.23 22:20:00 - [80] - Quote I can kind of understand the GalLogi thing, but please, PLEASE Mr. Cat, SAY that it is the GalLogi in these thread titles! I have points in all the Minmatar and Amarr Medium Dropsuits, Logi and Assault, and I fear for their Logistics suits if these threads are taken out of context as to apply to all Logistics players. We understand all the complaints lodged towards the State and the Federation, but the Empire and Tribes, for once, did nothing wrong :c Shields as Weapons

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 3947	Posted - 2013.11.23 22:24:00 - [81] - Quote Zero Harpuia wrote: I can kind of understand the GalLogi thing, but please, PLEASE Mr. Cat, SAY that it is the GalLogi in these thread titles! I have points in all the Minmatar and Amarr Medium Dropsuits, Logi and Assault, and I fear for their Logistics suits if these threads are taken out of context as to apply to all Logistics players. We understand all the complaints lodged towards the State and the Federation, but the Empire and Tribes, for once, did nothing wrong :c Amarr - Maybe. The Assault has nearly the same CPU/PG, which is a good thing. Minmatar - Why? They start off with assault like speed, have 4/4/4 slots. I honestly don't see why they are an exception. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Zero Harpuia Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 1237	Posted - 2013.11.23 22:38:00 - [82] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Zero Harpuia wrote: I can kind of understand the GalLogi thing, but please, PLEASE Mr. Cat, SAY that it is the GalLogi in these thread titles! I have points in all the Minmatar and Amarr Medium Dropsuits, Logi and Assault, and I fear for their Logistics suits if these threads are taken out of context as to apply to all Logistics players. We understand all the complaints lodged towards the State and the Federation, but the Empire and Tribes, for once, did nothing wrong :c Amarr - Maybe. The Assault has nearly the same CPU/PG, which is a good thing. Minmatar - Why? They start off with assault like speed, have 4/4/4 slots. I honestly don't see why they are an exception. Maybe because I just don't use prototype gear(ISK bonfires are more cost efficient) but they seem far weaker than their French/Japanese counterparts. The Minny suit doesn't even have a bonus relate-able to combat, and has rather low base HP besides. Maybe the proto's slots make up for that, but I wouldn't be caught dead in that. All those mods would be like pissing away ISK :c Also, Minny Logi has Assault like speed... for the rest of the races. Pretty sure Minny Assault is faster still, with a decent slot layout. Personally, I'd rather see the Tiering system die out and just have Minmatar Logi suit, not Minny Logi MLT, STD, ADV, and PRO. Feels like fake progression to me, especially seeing as the suits are the 'ships' of DUST. I don't get a super Thrasher at Minmatar Destroyers 3. Guns can have that leeway I suppose, as turrets have a system like that in EVE, but the Dropsuits just feel erg. But I'm getting off topic, don't mind my tangent... Reason I didn't say anything about Amarr was because we all know it's the runt of the litter. It's just an ASsault with an extra equip slot in exchange for some fitting, if I remember correctly. Which I doubt I do. Shields as Weapons
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 545	Posted - 2013.11.23 22:42:00 - [83] - Quote There! at 2:50! I always try to explain this to my squad mates but they never understand! Sometimes it dims while you hack and your arms start to glow and it looks so cool! But it doesnt happen every time! The Sinwarden
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5346	Posted - 2013.11.23 22:45:00 - [84] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: There! at 2:50! I always try to explain this to my squad mates but they never understand! Sometimes it dims while you hack and your arms start to glow and it looks so cool! But it doesnt happen every time! Yeah! It's weird. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 498	Posted - 2013.11.23 23:07:00 - [85] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXa5GZszk8&t=9 Look at that. First of all, that Gallente logi has as much armor as my Gallente Assault has total eHP. He also has a passive 5hp/s regeneration, making him that much more tanky. That point where he was hacking a CRU and was almost killed? If it was an assault suit he would be dead. Also, notice how once the dude spawned he could see him? That's because Logis have lower scan precision than assaults (lower = better), and putting just one point into passive scanning he can already see all assaults, while they can't see him. Then there's the equipment. The scanner makes it so that unless he is hacking, no one can sneak on him. Then as soon as he takes damage he can just plop down a triage hive. Then resupply his ammo. The logi is literally a one man army. No wonder almost everyone I see in PC runs logi. Along with the OPness of the Logi,the other thing that this video really shows me is how absolutely ridiculous the Scramber Rifle really is.Most enemies dropped is about 3-4 uncharged shots,and the charged shots seem to hit harder than sniper rifles!I honestly don't think that it's doing any less damage to armor,like it's supposed to.
Zero Harpuia Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 1237	Posted - 2013.11.23 23:18:00 - [86] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: Cat Merc wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXa5GZszk8&t=9 Look at that. First of all, that Gallente logi has as much armor as my Gallente Assault has total eHP. He also has a passive 5hp/s regeneration, making him that much more tanky. That point where he was hacking a CRU and was almost killed? If it was an assault suit he would be dead. Also, notice how once the dude spawned he could see him? That's because Logis have lower scan precision than assaults (lower = better), and putting just one point into passive scanning he can already see all assaults, while they can't see him. Then there's the equipment. The scanner makes it so that unless he is hacking, no one can sneak on him. Then as soon as he takes damage he can just plop down a triage hive. Then resupply his ammo. The logi is literally a one man army. No wonder almost everyone I see in PC runs logi. Along with the OPness of the Logi,the other thing that this video really shows me is how absolutely ridiculous the Scramber Rifle really is.Most enemies dropped is about 3-4 uncharged shots,and the charged shots seem to hit harder than sniper rifles!I honestly don't think that it's doing any less damage to armor,like it's supposed to. If you don't think it does less damage to armor, then I implore you to use one. Pick one up, by all means. Then crap your pants the next time you see a Heavy suit or a Gallente. He's using the prototype Semi-Auto, if I identified it right. I'd expect it to hit as hard as the Tactical Assault Rifle, wouldn't you? Shields as Weapons
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5349	Posted - 2013.11.23 23:21:00 - [87] - Quote Zero Harpuia wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: Along with the OPness of the Logi,the other thing that this video really shows me is how absolutely ridiculous the Scramber Rifle really is.Most enemies dropped is about 3-4 uncharged shots,and the charged shots seem to hit harder than sniper rifles!I honestly don't think that it's doing any less damage to armor,like it's supposed to. If you don't think it does less damage to armor, then I implore you to use one. Pick one up, by all means. Then crap your pants the next time you see a Heavy suit or a Gallente. He's using the prototype Semi-Auto, if I identified it right. I'd expect it to hit as hard as the Tactical Assault Rifle, wouldn't you? Don't forget the prof V and damage mods. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1671	Posted - 2013.11.23 23:34:00 - [88] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: InB4ButLogisAreSlowerThenAssaultsAndHaveLowerBaseStatsAndNoSidearm! Yup, cause a sidearm means so much when I can just blap you before I run out of half my health. Refunding a few AUR militia Blueprints pertaining to vehicles because their respective modules will not exist anymore
gg JKl 0	Posted - 2013.11.24 00:47:00 - [89] - Quote Zero Harpuia wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Zero Harpuia wrote: I can kind of understand the GalLogi thing, but please, PLEASE Mr. Cat, SAY that it is the GalLogi in these thread titles! I have points in all the Minmatar and Amarr Medium Dropsuits, Logi and Assault, and I fear for their Logistics suits if these threads are taken out of context as to apply to all Logistics players. We understand all the complaints lodged towards the State and the Federation, but the Empire and Tribes, for once, did nothing wrong :c Amarr - Maybe. The Assault has nearly the same CPU/PG, which is a good thing. Minmatar - Why? They start off with assault like speed, have 4/4/4 slots. I honestly don't see why they are an exception. Maybe because I just don't use prototype gear(ISK bonfires are more cost efficient) but they seem far weaker than their French/Japanese counterparts. The Minny suit doesn't even have a bonus relate-able to combat, and has rather low base HP besides. Maybe the proto's slots make up for that, but I wouldn't be caught dead in that. All those mods would be like pissing away ISK :c Also, Minny Logi has Assault like speed... for the rest of the races. Pretty sure Minny Assault is faster still, with a decent slot layout. Personally, I'd rather see the Tiering system die out and just have Minmatar Logi suit, not Minny Logi MLT, STD, ADV, and PRO. Feels like fake progression to me, especially seeing as the suits are the 'ships' of DUST. I don't get a super Thrasher at Minmatar Destroyers 3. Guns can have that leeway I suppose, as turrets have a system like that in EVE, but the Dropsuits just feel erg. But I'm getting off topic, don't mind my tangent... Reason I didn't say anything about Amarr was because we all know it's the runt of the litter. It's just an ASsault with an extra equip slot in exchange for some fitting, if I remember correctly. Which I doubt I do. Minny logi has a better shield recharge rate and shield depleted recharge then the assault. Has a better distribution of slots at proto and a better inbuilt armor repair. speed differences are minor speed tanking is dead.
ugg reset Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 410	Posted - 2013.11.24 02:03:00 - [90] - Quote watch this vid again and tell me how many ADV suites you see. because I didn't see any. anyone who has been here since uprising started could have dropped this guy with the right fit. all that armor is going to do really well against the CBR and the RR in 1.7 quando omni flunkus, moritati



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