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Ridire Greine
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Posted - 2013.11.24 02:07:00 -
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I have more trouble taking out Gallente Logis than Heavies when in CQC.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2013.11.24 03:34:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Cat Merc wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXa5GZszk8&t=9
Look at that.
First of all, that Gallente logi has as much armor as my Gallente Assault has total eHP.
He also has a passive 5hp/s regeneration, making him that much more tanky.
That point where he was hacking a CRU and was almost killed?
If it was an assault suit he would be dead.
Also, notice how once the dude spawned he could see him?
That's because Logis have lower scan precision than assaults (lower = better), and putting just one point into passive scanning he can already see all assaults, while they can't see him.
Then there's the equipment.
The scanner makes it so that unless he is hacking, no one can sneak on him.
Then as soon as he takes damage he can just plop down a triage hive.
Then resupply his ammo.
The logi is literally a one man army.
No wonder almost everyone I see in PC runs logi. An easy fix would be to just take away that 5th slot and give it to the assault or just simply buff assault. I have proto amarr assault and proto amarr logi, these two are well balanced I believe provided people utilise the assault bonus which is what its about right? Utilising bonus and skills. The Amarr assault is the only assault with a proper bonus  And a simple buff to assaults would also require a buff to scouts and heavies and commandos.
Yeah sounds good 
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Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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Kaughst
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
42
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Posted - 2013.11.24 04:13:00 -
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I kind of agree with this assessment. And there are still a number of things the logi does not need to worry about than the assault suit. It's kind of funny that when I hear 'buff the assault' they are admitting that the logi is stronger in aspects that overcome the assault suits role.
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2013.11.24 05:21:00 -
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Ridire Greine wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:They say scouts are mostly fine because they are faster
Who the hell says this? My Scout suit with two Comp Kin Catz is only .6m/s faster than a Minnie Assault with two Comp Kin Catz. Scouts are barely faster.
Korvin was using sarcasm for an argument someone might actually use. Highlighting the ludicrous debates we get on these forums.
Debating is much easier than actually discussing.
As for the main topic. I run in a Fatty suit with Heavy Weapons so it feels like I'm in some Third World Nation watching First World people having First World Nation problems. The impression this game gives is Slots + CPU + Grid = Power. Once a suit of any build light/medium/heavy has less than another in comparison then the other characteristics become exceedingly important.
One thing that I'm curious about would be, if there is an issue with the Gallente Logi does it start to happen at Advanced or Proto level? Is the Basic balanced to the other Basic suits, etc?
To be honest the only thing I care about is that things aren't fixed simply by nerfing.
"She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now." SR-71
310k+ SP for +0.05m/s (>2in) on a Heavy. Totally worth it.
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Ronan Elsword
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.11.24 05:33:00 -
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Haha I've been using Triage Hives on my Dual Tanked Caldari Logi for a long time. Gotta love it.
"Do not underestimate the power you have."
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Shruikan Iceeye
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
99
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Posted - 2013.11.24 06:39:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
Heavies not so much, in relation to assaults they are balanced with the HP increase.
Scouts need a major buff.
Bull Teets.
The inability to dodge shots in a game where the weapons pump out so much damage in seconds is tremendously disabling.
Add on top of that the HMG that can by dodged so easily and you have one weak azz push over heavy. |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
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Posted - 2013.11.24 06:47:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Just remove the assault class already and refund our skill points.
No I have fun with my cal assault
Christ is lord
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Funkmaster Whale
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.11.24 07:30:00 -
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All I see is just how crazy the ScR is. It's pretty much like the old Tac Rifle in terms of damage.
Time to make the switch.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
3961
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Posted - 2013.11.24 08:14:00 -
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Shruikan Iceeye wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
Heavies not so much, in relation to assaults they are balanced with the HP increase.
Scouts need a major buff.
Bull Teets. The inability to dodge shots in a game where the weapons pump out so much damage in seconds is tremendously disabling. Add on top of that the HMG that can by dodged so easily and you have one weak azz push over heavy.
Try an AR or SCR.
Heavy is fine, HMG isn't.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
1511
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Posted - 2013.11.24 08:57:00 -
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Erth Deteis wrote:gg JKl wrote:He has 3 complex dam mods with the imperial and hes exploiting the overheat as well...
lol
What is the exploit??
Don't you know? There's an easy trick to "skip" the overheat animation. Actually, you can't ADS during the overheat time, but you can spam hipfire without making your weapon blow up in your face.
So, it's like:
-pew pew pew *overheat*
-> exploit
-pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew
-End of "overheat"
I'm not posting how to do it, there are too many people doing it already. Fortunately, it's about to get fixed in 1.7.
-1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m
-Goodbye my love, Tac AR
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Doc Noah
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
883
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Posted - 2013.11.24 09:01:00 -
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I dont its just logis thats the problem in that vid, I dont think theres another gun other than shotguns that can kill someone that fast. |
Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.11.24 09:11:00 -
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It's not just the fact he's a logi at all.
In PC Kalente/Reg with Shields Assaults > all logi's because accuracy during strafe battles when the assault has a better strafe = doesn't matter they have 2-300 less ehp. They still win.
However...logi's shouldn't have the 5 rep/s.
And gallente assault obviously need a buff.
As a gallente assault I want a racial bonus that nullfies armor plating movement penalties or significantly reduces them.
Just 0.02 isk. The scrambler is an amazing weapon...and for being a long range weapon...it has waaay sweet reload and hipfire accuaracy...personally I think non scoped a ranged weapon shouldn't be able to have n kick like that. A CQC weap should, but it should do much less DPS at range. Don't get me wrong without using the glitch that's currently making Scramblers OP I think the high alpha is fine, cause with that overheat mechanic it does take skill...but I think an ar reload similar reload time and more kick in cqc if it's going to do tac damage at range and have a sweet charged shot is in order.
TTK is also a problem evidenced by this video. But that's another issue altogether.
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