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Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
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Posted - 2013.11.23 15:26:00 -
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Shruikan Iceeye wrote:The only real problem i have with Logis atm is dat 5hp/s.
That's a huge advantage as far as i'm concerned
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
3923
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Posted - 2013.11.23 15:28:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Attention seeking cat. 
If you feed me sardine I'll stop :P
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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HYENAKILLER X
TEAM SHINOBI
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Posted - 2013.11.23 15:37:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:I agree with all of the above.
This
You are welcome for my leadership
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
3924
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Posted - 2013.11.23 15:43:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:I agree with all of the above. This
That
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
5327
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Posted - 2013.11.23 15:50:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:Shruikan Iceeye wrote:The only real problem i have with Logis atm is dat 5hp/s.
That's a huge advantage as far as i'm concerned it would make sense if assault had this bonus.
Yep.
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Leovarian L Lavitz
NECROM0NGERS
794
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:01:00 -
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Remove the Logi's grenade slot and all will be well in the world. Assaults can assault, logis can be versatile. Imo.
Omni-Soldier
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
259
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:02:00 -
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Anyone get good results I went 30-2 with a LR so it must be OP, hell I saw people getting this numbers witha PLC clearly OP. 
The logi si a good suit no question its the most flexible suit in the game and it was already back in chromosome. The logi vk1 had the same slot layout(H/L =4/4) with more health (125/150) and speed (5.3) but no one complained.
I get the feeling just because assault don't use they advantages deniy them. For example the sidearm is so viable that they believe it is enough but for some mysterius reason they seem unableto use this for their own advantage. They say scouts are mostly fine because they are faster but when it comes to a logi speed all of a sudden is no advantage...
These forums are always astonishing.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
3925
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:03:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Anyone get good results I went 30-2 with a LR so it must be OP, hell I saw people getting this numbers witha PLC clearly OP. The logi si a good suit no question its the most flexible suit in the game and it was already back in chromosome. The logi vk1 had the same slot layout(H/L =4/4) with more health (125/150) and speed (5.3) but no one complained. I get the feeling just because assault don't use they advantages deniy them. For example the sidearm is so viable that they believe it is enough but for some mysterius reason they seem unableto use this for their own advantage. They say scouts are mostly fine because they are faster but when it comes to a logi speed all of a sudden is no advantage... These forums are always astonishing.
Assaults had two equipment slots, so did scouts.
In addition, logis didn't have that +5hp/s.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
133
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:04:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Anyone get good results I went 30-2 with a LR so it must be OP, hell I saw people getting this numbers witha PLC clearly OP. The logi si a good suit no question its the most flexible suit in the game and it was already back in chromosome. The logi vk1 had the same slot layout(H/L =4/4) with more health (125/150) and speed (5.3) but no one complained. I get the feeling just because assault don't use they advantages deniy them. For example the sidearm is so viable that they believe it is enough but for some mysterius reason they seem unableto use this for their own advantage. They say scouts are mostly fine because they are faster but when it comes to a logi speed all of a sudden is no advantage... These forums are always astonishing.
i cant even fit nova knives on my caldari assault C/1 Series
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Mregomies
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:12:00 -
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Did not watch the video. I have 1026hp in my callogi and i do 1/2 kdr battles. My hp is like butter and 1026 hp is gone in 0.5sek. I do not do assault I collect wp by supporting team. ScR is OP.
Suomi, Finland, PERKELE!
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
3925
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:14:00 -
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Mregomies wrote:Did not watch the video. I have 1026hp in my callogi and i do 1/2 kdr battles. My hp is like butter and 1026 hp is gone in 0.5sek. I do not do assault I collect wp by supporting team. ScR is OP.
You must suck then, and without that 1000hp you would go 1/90459304.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Mregomies
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
120
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:14:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Remove the Logi's grenade slot and all will be well in the world. Assaults can assault, logis can be versatile. Imo.
I don't need granades... take it away. No more core spam.
Suomi, Finland, PERKELE!
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Mregomies
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
120
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:17:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Mregomies wrote:Did not watch the video. I have 1026hp in my callogi and i do 1/2 kdr battles. My hp is like butter and 1026 hp is gone in 0.5sek. I do not do assault I collect wp by supporting team. ScR is OP. You must suck then, and without that 1000hp you would go 1/90459304.
Meh. I'm 1 of the best... I do'tn touch my gun. It's for assault. I die in orbitals
Suomi, Finland, PERKELE!
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
3926
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:18:00 -
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Mregomies wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Mregomies wrote:Did not watch the video. I have 1026hp in my callogi and i do 1/2 kdr battles. My hp is like butter and 1026 hp is gone in 0.5sek. I do not do assault I collect wp by supporting team. ScR is OP. You must suck then, and without that 1000hp you would go 1/90459304. Meh. I'm 1 of the best... I do'tn touch my gun. It's for assault. I die in orbitals
Must see for myself honestly.
You are a rare gem if what you say is true.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Mregomies
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
120
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:26:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Mregomies wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Mregomies wrote:Did not watch the video. I have 1026hp in my callogi and i do 1/2 kdr battles. My hp is like butter and 1026 hp is gone in 0.5sek. I do not do assault I collect wp by supporting team. ScR is OP. You must suck then, and without that 1000hp you would go 1/90459304. Meh. I'm 1 of the best... I do'tn touch my gun. It's for assault. I die in orbitals Must see for myself honestly. You are a rare gem if what you say is true.
I don't enjoy slaying mlt/newpie mercs... I truely support my team and only now with this event I sit in mountain and redeem my proto sniperguns for sale in future. And ask anyone in beercase corp or my TUL corp. My job is support and only support.
Suomi, Finland, PERKELE!
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Ridire Greine
55
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:31:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:They say scouts are mostly fine because they are faster
Who the hell says this?
My Scout suit with two Comp Kin Catz is only .6m/s faster than a Minnie Assault with two Comp Kin Catz.
Scouts are barely faster.
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1089
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:38:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:gg JKl wrote:He has 3 complex dam mods with the imperial and hes exploiting the overheat as well...
lol
No I don't? Look at the shield bar. How do I get that much shielding without extenders?
would be a good movie if not for the exploit with the overheat saving you from getting killed, why don't you just eat the death ? It gives all us day 1 SCR users a bad name.
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis Dragonaors
112
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:44:00 -
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esdo love to see a heavy destroyed in 4 shots by an imperial scr makes me fill good about where the heavy is going
We fight for the future of the State not our
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
1151
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:45:00 -
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Mregomies wrote:Did not watch the video. I have 1026hp in my callogi and i do 1/2 kdr battles. My hp is like butter and 1026 hp is gone in 0.5sek. I do not do assault I collect wp by supporting team. ScR is OP.
Its op because most of you hp is shields dummy.
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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Dengru
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
159
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:58:00 -
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awesome aim at 9:19 |
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Mregomies
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
120
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:58:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Mregomies wrote:Did not watch the video. I have 1026hp in my callogi and i do 1/2 kdr battles. My hp is like butter and 1026 hp is gone in 0.5sek. I do not do assault I collect wp by supporting team. ScR is OP. Its op because most of you hp is shields dummy.
Actually not. I have complex shield yes but armor plates are 110hp each. Next SP target is lvl5 plates. Then I'm tanked against ScR.
Suomi, Finland, PERKELE!
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
1263
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Posted - 2013.11.23 17:24:00 -
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Shruikan Iceeye wrote:The only real problem i have with Logis atm is dat 5hp/s.
That's a huge advantage as far as i'm concerned
I agree, logi frames should have the repper replaced with a needle that repairs 10% of armor. The logi having a 5hp/s repper is a big advantage over other suits. If the bonus was a %5 per level to an equipped module then it wouldn't be that bad. Other than that the logi is about right with its resources. If per level perks were to be tweaked then I think we could get some suits that have the same stats but don't work as assaults. Make a suit profitable in its role but not so much doing something else because this game seems to run off of the grind of points more than anything else so hit them in the points.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Ahrendee Mercenaries
422
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Posted - 2013.11.23 17:42:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I feed on your tears. I expected you to eventually say that. :P
Same snorky comments for every thread.
Mediocre shooter trying to learn.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
5333
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Posted - 2013.11.23 17:43:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:gg JKl wrote:He has 3 complex dam mods with the imperial and hes exploiting the overheat as well...
lol
No I don't? Look at the shield bar. How do I get that much shielding without extenders? would be a good movie if not for the exploit with the overheat saving you from getting killed, why don't you just eat the death ? It gives all us day 1 SCR users a bad name.
Where did I use it?
I don't recall using it in that video - I've not used it lately, mostly because it's so broken.
EDIT: And honestly, I shouldn't have done it, wherever I did it.
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Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
3930
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Posted - 2013.11.23 17:43:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I feed on your tears. I expected you to eventually say that. :P Same snorky comments for every thread.
Nah, we're talking on IRC with each other, I waited for him to discover the thread.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
509
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Posted - 2013.11.23 17:52:00 -
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Just give us logis an only sidearm slot, and a respec, so the assaults can go play assaults! Let the real logis spec beck into logi suits, and sidearms...
Minnie Scout & Logi
Greatness achieved through persistance.
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Scheherazade VII
175
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Posted - 2013.11.23 17:56:00 -
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This is what is destroying the game
Proto gallente suit with 830hp (i think that's the MAX armour)
scrambler rifle
prof 5
3-4 complex damage mods.
I'm not sure how many slots that pro gallente logi suit has so somebody help me with the maths.
I'm assuming that with the mods and proficiency the SCR does 100hp per shot?
that means starter fits die in 3 rounds, i.e less than a second.
and how can you mathematically inflict that much damage on somebody like that before they kill you?
you can't.
hence invincibility
hence 49-0
this isn't anything against the player, I know they are a forum-user. don't hate the player hate the game I guess
but some people do take the ****.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
5335
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Posted - 2013.11.23 17:58:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote:This is what is destroying the game
Proto gallente suit with 830hp (i think that's the MAX armour)
scrambler rifle
prof 5
3-4 complex damage mods.
I'm not sure how many slots that pro gallente logi suit has so somebody help me with the maths.
I'm assuming that with the mods and proficiency the SCR does 100hp per shot?
that means starter fits die in 3 rounds, i.e less than a second.
and how can you mathematically inflict that much damage on somebody like that before they kill you?
you can't.
hence invincibility
hence 49-0
this isn't anything against the player, I know they are a forum-user. don't hate the player hate the game I guess
but some people do take the ****.
You can't use 4 slots on a Gallente logi, and good luck getting 830 armour, 3 complex damage mods, triage hives, AND an imperial SCR.
It's overpowered, but it's not quite as bad as you say.
In that video I was using 1x complex shield extender and 2x enhanced damage mods in my high slots.
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Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
3935
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Posted - 2013.11.23 18:21:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Scheherazade VII wrote:This is what is destroying the game
Proto gallente suit with 830hp (i think that's the MAX armour)
scrambler rifle
prof 5
3-4 complex damage mods.
I'm not sure how many slots that pro gallente logi suit has so somebody help me with the maths.
I'm assuming that with the mods and proficiency the SCR does 100hp per shot?
that means starter fits die in 3 rounds, i.e less than a second.
and how can you mathematically inflict that much damage on somebody like that before they kill you?
you can't.
hence invincibility
hence 49-0
this isn't anything against the player, I know they are a forum-user. don't hate the player hate the game I guess
but some people do take the ****.
You can't use 4 slots on a Gallente logi, and good luck getting 830 armour, 3 complex damage mods, triage hives, AND an imperial SCR. It's overpowered, but it's not quite as bad as you say. In that video I was using 1x complex shield extender and 2x enhanced damage mods in my high slots. You are correct in thinking that the Imperial SCR does 100 damage per shot with proficiency and damage modifiers though.
Hush Logi user, you are not welcome here :P
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Tectonic Fusion
593
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Posted - 2013.11.23 18:22:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Cat Merc wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXa5GZszk8&t=9
Look at that.
First of all, that Gallente logi has as much armor as my Gallente Assault has total eHP.
He also has a passive 5hp/s regeneration, making him that much more tanky.
That point where he was hacking a CRU and was almost killed?
If it was an assault suit he would be dead.
Also, notice how once the dude spawned he could see him?
That's because Logis have lower scan precision than assaults (lower = better), and putting just one point into passive scanning he can already see all assaults, while they can't see him.
Then there's the equipment.
The scanner makes it so that unless he is hacking, no one can sneak on him.
Then as soon as he takes damage he can just plop down a triage hive.
Then resupply his ammo.
The logi is literally a one man army.
No wonder almost everyone I see in PC runs logi. An easy fix would be to just take away that 5th slot and give it to the assault or just simply buff assault. I have proto amarr assault and proto amarr logi, these two are well balanced I believe provided people utilise the assault bonus which is what its about right? Utilising bonus and skills.
This^
Also, one nerf at a time. If you nerf everything at once it will end up like the LOLTAR and the LOLFlaylock.
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