DUST Search - Here's a perfect example of why logis are simply better

Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

Cat Merc wrote:

TechMechMeds wrote:

Cat Merc wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXa5GZszk8&t=9

Look at that.
First of all, that Gallente logi has as much armor as my Gallente Assault has total eHP.
He also has a passive 5hp/s regeneration, making him that much more tanky.
That point where he was hacking a CRU and was almost killed?
If it was an assault suit he would be dead.
Also, notice how once the dude spawned he could see him?
That's because Logis have lower scan precision than assaults (lower = better), and putting just one point into passive scanning he can already see all assaults, while they can't see him.

Then there's the equipment.
The scanner makes it so that unless he is hacking, no one can sneak on him.
Then as soon as he takes damage he can just plop down a triage hive.
Then resupply his ammo.

The logi is literally a one man army.
No wonder almost everyone I see in PC runs logi.

An easy fix would be to just take away that 5th slot and give it to the assault or just simply buff assault.

I have proto amarr assault and proto amarr logi, these two are well balanced I believe provided people utilise the assault bonus which is what its about right? Utilising bonus and skills.

The Amarr assault is the only assault with a proper bonus Roll

And a simple buff to assaults would also require a buff to scouts and heavies and commandos.

Scouts, heavies, and commandon'ts need a buff anyway, lol, even if you don't buff the assault.

Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.

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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 3914	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:24:00 - [1] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXa5GZszk8&t=9 Look at that. First of all, that Gallente logi has as much armor as my Gallente Assault has total eHP. He also has a passive 5hp/s regeneration, making him that much more tanky. That point where he was hacking a CRU and was almost killed? If it was an assault suit he would be dead. Also, notice how once the dude spawned he could see him? That's because Logis have lower scan precision than assaults (lower = better), and putting just one point into passive scanning he can already see all assaults, while they can't see him. Then there's the equipment. The scanner makes it so that unless he is hacking, no one can sneak on him. Then as soon as he takes damage he can just plop down a triage hive. Then resupply his ammo. The logi is literally a one man army. No wonder almost everyone I see in PC runs logi. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 581	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:28:00 - [2] - Quote I agree with all of the above. KDR > ALL ME > KDR ME > ALL
Cody Sietz Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 1526	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:33:00 - [3] - Quote InB4ButLogisAreSlowerThenAssaultsAndHaveLowerBaseStatsAndNoSidearm!
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 581	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:37:00 - [4] - Quote Just remove the assault class already and refund our skill points. KDR > ALL ME > KDR ME > ALL
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Ahrendee Mercenaries 420	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:38:00 - [5] - Quote Stuff like camping on a triage hive is just plain stupid. Having all those dmg mods whilst having that much HP is a crime against nature. Mediocre shooter trying to learn.
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 356	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:42:00 - [6] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXa5GZszk8&t=9 The score was mostly the fault of the lack of matchmaking in FW, but beyond that I agree with you. CCP's stance is probably that we can only have proper bonuses once we have more stuff in the game, but the current state of the game is suffering a lot due to (very) bad bonuses on the suits. Let's just say that there's room for a lot of improvement.
Shruikan Iceeye 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 95	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:43:00 - [7] - Quote The only real problem i have with Logis atm is dat 5hp/s. That's a huge advantage as far as i'm concerned
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5324	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:43:00 - [8] - Quote I feed on your tears. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 3918	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:44:00 - [9] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I feed on your tears. I expected you to eventually say that. :P Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 581	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:44:00 - [10] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I feed on your tears. You sir, got the FOTM jackpot standing on the repair hives with your logi, throwing core locus grenades, and spamming your ScR. KDR > ALL ME > KDR ME > ALL

Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5324	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:44:00 - [11] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I feed on your tears. You sir, got the FOTM jackpot standing on the repair hives with your logi, throwing core locus grenades, and spamming your ScR. I did it before it was cool. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 3918	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:45:00 - [12] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I feed on your tears. You sir, got the FOTM jackpot standing on the repair hives with your logi, throwing core locus grenades, and spamming your ScR. I did it before it was cool. Yeah... I miss that time when we discovered the wonders of Triage hives. It was like new life for armor tanking. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
gg JKl 0	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:46:00 - [13] - Quote He has 3 complex dam mods with the imperial and hes exploiting the overheat as well... lol
daishi mk03 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 404	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:48:00 - [14] - Quote Every decent player would have sent him to hell after 1 min (the CRU hacking scene). How can one not see that big red marker?
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 682	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:53:00 - [15] - Quote places jaw in up right and locked position. though an HP buff isn't what scouts need, I sorta think it might be on the path to usefulness now. "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout, tanker. CLOSED BETA VET
Ryme Intrinseca Seraphim Auxiliaries 273	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:53:00 - [16] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: InB4ButLogisAreSlowerThenAssaultsAndHaveLowerBaseStatsAndNoSidearm! This about covers it.
Ryme Intrinseca Seraphim Auxiliaries 273	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:56:00 - [17] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Just remove the heavy class already and refund our skill points. Fixed. Fatties are welcome at the logi QQ party aren't they?
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 3919	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:56:00 - [18] - Quote daishi mk03 wrote: Every decent player would have sent him to hell after 1 min (the CRU hacking scene). How can one not see that big red marker? Logi suit compensates for that Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 3919	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:57:00 - [19] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Just remove the heavy class already and refund our skill points. Fixed. Fatties are welcome at the logi QQ party aren't they? Yes, yes they are. Scouts are the honorary guests, as they have it the worse. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1480	Posted - 2013.11.23 15:01:00 - [20] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXa5GZszk8&t=9 Look at that. First of all, that Gallente logi has as much armor as my Gallente Assault has total eHP. He also has a passive 5hp/s regeneration, making him that much more tanky. That point where he was hacking a CRU and was almost killed? If it was an assault suit he would be dead. Also, notice how once the dude spawned he could see him? That's because Logis have lower scan precision than assaults (lower = better), and putting just one point into passive scanning he can already see all assaults, while they can't see him. Then there's the equipment. The scanner makes it so that unless he is hacking, no one can sneak on him. Then as soon as he takes damage he can just plop down a triage hive. Then resupply his ammo. The logi is literally a one man army. No wonder almost everyone I see in PC runs logi. An easy fix would be to just take away that 5th slot and give it to the assault or just simply buff assault. I have proto amarr assault and proto amarr logi, these two are well balanced I believe provided people utilise the assault bonus which is what its about right? Utilising bonus and skills. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.

Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5324	Posted - 2013.11.23 15:02:00 - [21] - Quote gg JKl wrote: He has 3 complex dam mods with the imperial and hes exploiting the overheat as well... lol No I don't? Look at the shield bar. How do I get that much shielding without extenders? Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 3920	Posted - 2013.11.23 15:03:00 - [22] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Cat Merc wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXa5GZszk8&t=9 Look at that. First of all, that Gallente logi has as much armor as my Gallente Assault has total eHP. He also has a passive 5hp/s regeneration, making him that much more tanky. That point where he was hacking a CRU and was almost killed? If it was an assault suit he would be dead. Also, notice how once the dude spawned he could see him? That's because Logis have lower scan precision than assaults (lower = better), and putting just one point into passive scanning he can already see all assaults, while they can't see him. Then there's the equipment. The scanner makes it so that unless he is hacking, no one can sneak on him. Then as soon as he takes damage he can just plop down a triage hive. Then resupply his ammo. The logi is literally a one man army. No wonder almost everyone I see in PC runs logi. An easy fix would be to just take away that 5th slot and give it to the assault or just simply buff assault. I have proto amarr assault and proto amarr logi, these two are well balanced I believe provided people utilise the assault bonus which is what its about right? Utilising bonus and skills. The Amarr assault is the only assault with a proper bonus And a simple buff to assaults would also require a buff to scouts and heavies and commandos. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 3920	Posted - 2013.11.23 15:03:00 - [23] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: gg JKl wrote: He has 3 complex dam mods with the imperial and hes exploiting the overheat as well... lol No I don't? Look at the shield bar. How do I get that much shielding without extenders? 1 complex shield extender and two enhanced damage mods :P Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5324	Posted - 2013.11.23 15:04:00 - [24] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Cat Merc wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXa5GZszk8&t=9 Look at that. First of all, that Gallente logi has as much armor as my Gallente Assault has total eHP. He also has a passive 5hp/s regeneration, making him that much more tanky. That point where he was hacking a CRU and was almost killed? If it was an assault suit he would be dead. Also, notice how once the dude spawned he could see him? That's because Logis have lower scan precision than assaults (lower = better), and putting just one point into passive scanning he can already see all assaults, while they can't see him. Then there's the equipment. The scanner makes it so that unless he is hacking, no one can sneak on him. Then as soon as he takes damage he can just plop down a triage hive. Then resupply his ammo. The logi is literally a one man army. No wonder almost everyone I see in PC runs logi. An easy fix would be to just take away that 5th slot and give it to the assault or just simply buff assault. I have proto amarr assault and proto amarr logi, these two are well balanced I believe provided people utilise the assault bonus which is what its about right? Utilising bonus and skills. The Amarr assault is the only assault with a proper bonus And a simple buff to assaults would also require a buff to scouts and heavies and commandos. Scouts, heavies, and commandon'ts need a buff anyway, lol, even if you don't buff the assault. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 3920	Posted - 2013.11.23 15:05:00 - [25] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Cat Merc wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Cat Merc wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXa5GZszk8&t=9 Look at that. First of all, that Gallente logi has as much armor as my Gallente Assault has total eHP. He also has a passive 5hp/s regeneration, making him that much more tanky. That point where he was hacking a CRU and was almost killed? If it was an assault suit he would be dead. Also, notice how once the dude spawned he could see him? That's because Logis have lower scan precision than assaults (lower = better), and putting just one point into passive scanning he can already see all assaults, while they can't see him. Then there's the equipment. The scanner makes it so that unless he is hacking, no one can sneak on him. Then as soon as he takes damage he can just plop down a triage hive. Then resupply his ammo. The logi is literally a one man army. No wonder almost everyone I see in PC runs logi. An easy fix would be to just take away that 5th slot and give it to the assault or just simply buff assault. I have proto amarr assault and proto amarr logi, these two are well balanced I believe provided people utilise the assault bonus which is what its about right? Utilising bonus and skills. The Amarr assault is the only assault with a proper bonus And a simple buff to assaults would also require a buff to scouts and heavies and commandos. Scouts, heavies, and commandon'ts need a buff anyway, lol, even if you don't buff the assault. Heavies not so much, in relation to assaults they are balanced with the HP increase. Scouts need a major buff. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
21yrOld Knight Pradox One Proficiency V. 315	Posted - 2013.11.23 15:08:00 - [26] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Just remove the assault class already and refund our skill points. HA NO! If you are going to be fake, don't be made in china.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5324	Posted - 2013.11.23 15:09:00 - [27] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Just remove the assault class already and refund our skill points. HA NO! I like my Amarr assault. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 3921	Posted - 2013.11.23 15:16:00 - [28] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Just remove the assault class already and refund our skill points. HA NO! I like my Amarr assault. Because sitting in a 900eHP suit gets boring after a while Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 3923	Posted - 2013.11.23 15:24:00 - [29] - Quote meow Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5324	Posted - 2013.11.23 15:26:00 - [30] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: meow Attention seeking cat. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.



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