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Ulysses Knapse duna corp 610	Posted - 2013.11.23 10:33:00 - [1] - Quote Have you ever wondered why dropsuits don't get names? I know I have. In EVE, even combat drones get their own names, like "Hobgoblin" or "Vespa", "Ogre" or "Wasp". In Dust 514, dropsuits don't get their own names. They get classifications only. Oh boy. "The Minmatar Supercarrier: Hel" "The Gallente Medium Combat Drone: Hammerhead" "The Caldari HAV: Sica" "The Gallente Assault Dropsuit: Gallente Assault Dropsuit" ... Yeah. How boring. Example Guy wrote: But Ulysses, we would run out of names if we named the dropsuits, too!" Oh really? I highly doubt it. In fact, I already came up with possible (example) names for the Gallente Dropsuits. Velites Dropsuit -- Gallente Light Dropsuit, T1 Proskopos Dropsuit -- Gallente Scout Dropsuit, T2 Legionnaire Dropsuit -- Gallente Medium Dropsuit, T1 Phalanx Dropsuit -- Gallente Assault Dropsuit, T2 Iatros Dropsuit -- Gallente Logistics Dropsuit, T2 Legatus Dropsuit -- Gallente Crusader Dropsuit, T2 Centurion Dropsuit -- Gallente Heavy Dropsuit, T1 Oplismos Dropsuit -- Gallente Sentinel Dropsuit, T2 Pyrovolo Dropsuit - Gallente Commando Dropsuit, T2 These are obviously just example names, but I'm sort of fond of them. Point is, there are more than enough possible names. There were enough names available that I, a person that is certainly not easy to please, was able to come up with a list I felt relatively satisfied with. I was not pressed for choice here. I also came up with a list for the Minmatar and Amarr dropsuit names, but I decided that posting such here would be getting ahead of myself (I also didn't think they were as good. Acceptable, yes, but not as much). Furthermore, from a functional standpoint, if we ever get multiple dropsuits of the same specification and faction, names will make it much easier to distinguish them. I can't really make an example in Dust, because we don't have any variants yet. To all you capsuleers out there, though, can you imagine if the Drake, Ferox and Naga were named "Caldari Battlecruiser Type-A", "Caldari Battlecruiser Type-B" and "Caldari Battlecruiser Type-C"? Would be awful, right? So, can I haz dropsuit names? Humanity is the personification of change.
zibathy numbertwo Nox Aeterna Security 272	Posted - 2013.11.23 13:12:00 - [2] - Quote I agree with this. They need names. But the classification-esque names help identify them, you know? I think it would have to have a name with the names we have currently in subtext below it in the market. Just for better understanding. Long Live Freedom; Long Live the Federation.
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 57	Posted - 2013.11.23 13:15:00 - [3] - Quote Gallente heavy commando 'Hecatonchires'
Ulysses Knapse duna corp 615	Posted - 2013.11.23 13:51:00 - [4] - Quote zibathy numbertwo wrote: I agree with this. They need names. But the classification-esque names help identify them, you know? I think it would have to have a name with the names we have currently in subtext below it in the market. Just for better understanding. EVE has widely varying ship classifications as well, and I've never had any real problems identifying ships. It helps that EVE lovingly showers you with identification material. Keep in mind, though, that all dropsuits are organized by classification in the market already, so a subtext might be a little unnecessary. Humanity is the personification of change.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 870	Posted - 2013.11.23 17:54:00 - [5] - Quote +1 Amarr Logistics STD: Keeper ADV: Beholder PRO: Reclaimer [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Burner of faces. The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 368	Posted - 2013.11.23 18:20:00 - [6] - Quote WHOA WHOA WHOA, some of us weren't in dust since 1.5 years ago. *Assassination is my thing.*
Ulysses Knapse duna corp 623	Posted - 2013.11.24 01:20:00 - [7] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: WHOA WHOA WHOA, some of us weren't in dust since 1.5 years ago. Your point being? Humanity is the personification of change.
Arc-08 Knights Of Ender Public Disorder. 131	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:01:00 - [8] - Quote this is a great idea, but the Minmatar Heavy should be named Achilles, it can only be destroyed if you hit it with 100 damage to it's heel. Advanced Recon Commando's (A.R.C's) --- The most Elite fighting force in the galaxy
Ulysses Knapse duna corp 628	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:23:00 - [9] - Quote Arc-08 wrote: this is a great idea, but the Minmatar Heavy should be named Achilles, it can only be destroyed if you hit it with 100 damage to it's heel. The name fits with the Gallente better, as the masters of Greek names. Humanity is the personification of change.
Oswald Rehnquist 659	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:25:00 - [10] - Quote You copied some ship names, so those can't be used, also I will suggest a few changes Fizzer94 wrote: +1 ~REVISED~~REVISED~ AMARR Amarr Assault STD: Errant (credit of MINA Longstrike) ADV: Knight PRO: Templar Amarr Logistics STD: Keeper ADV: Beholder PRO: Reclaimer Amarr Scout STD: Initiate ADV: Chosen PRO: Exile Amarr Sentinel STD: Monaster ADV: PRO: CALDARI Caldari Assault STD: ADV: PRO: Caldari Logistics STD: Egret ADV: PRO: Caldari Scout STD: Nightingale ADV: PRO: Harrier (it means harasser as well so that is more scout) Caldari Sentinel STD: Vulture ADV: PRO: Below 28 dB

Ulysses Knapse duna corp 628	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:29:00 - [11] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: You copied some ship names, so those can't be used, also I will suggest a few changes Fizzer94 wrote: +1 ~REVISED~~REVISED~ AMARR Amarr Assault STD: Errant (credit of MINA Longstrike) ADV: Knight PRO: Templar Amarr Logistics STD: Keeper ADV: Beholder PRO: Reclaimer Amarr Scout STD: Initiate ADV: Chosen PRO: Exile Amarr Sentinel STD: Monaster ADV: PRO: CALDARI Caldari Assault STD: ADV: PRO: Caldari Logistics STD: Egret ADV: PRO: Caldari Scout STD: Nightingale ADV: PRO: Harrier (it means harasser as well so that is more scout) Caldari Sentinel STD: Vulture ADV: PRO: You forgot to remove Vulture. Humanity is the personification of change.
Ulysses Knapse duna corp 628	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:31:00 - [12] - Quote Here are my Amarr names I came up with earlier. I might as well show them if everyone else is going to show theirs. Herald Dropsuit -- Amarr Light Dropsuit, T1 Augur Dropsuit -- Amarr Scout Dropsuit, T2 Vicar Dropsuit -- Amarr Medium Dropsuit, T1 Evocator Dropsuit -- Amarr Assault Dropsuit, T2 Curator Dropsuit -- Amarr Logistics Dropsuit, T2 Elohim Dropsuit -- Amarr Crusader Dropsuit, T2 Sectarian Dropsuit -- Amarr Heavy Dropsuit, T1 Subjugator Dropsuit -- Amarr Sentinel Dropsuit, T2 Garroter Dropsuit -- Amarr Commando Dropsuit, T2 It follows the Amarr naming conventions pretty well, unlike someone elses (I'm not pointing out names, here ). Humanity is the personification of change.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 905	Posted - 2013.11.24 06:41:00 - [13] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: Here are my Amarr names I came up with earlier. I might as well show them if everyone else is going to show theirs. Herald Dropsuit -- Amarr Light Dropsuit, T1 Augur Dropsuit -- Amarr Scout Dropsuit, T2 Vicar Dropsuit -- Amarr Medium Dropsuit, T1 Evocator Dropsuit -- Amarr Assault Dropsuit, T2 Curator Dropsuit -- Amarr Logistics Dropsuit, T2 Elohim Dropsuit -- Amarr Crusader Dropsuit, T2 Sectarian Dropsuit -- Amarr Heavy Dropsuit, T1 Subjugator Dropsuit -- Amarr Sentinel Dropsuit, T2 Garroter Dropsuit -- Amarr Commando Dropsuit, T2 It follows the Amarr naming conventions pretty well, unlike someone elses (I'm not pointing out names, here ). Why don't you like my names? I tried to make them sound more infantry-like. Yours sound good, but I don't think the Amarr would name anything after the Elohim. That's almost heretical. In particular, I like Herald, Vicar, Subjugator, and Garroter. They each sound fitting for the dropsuit you prescribed them to. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered. REMOVE ALL BPOs
Ulysses Knapse duna corp 628	Posted - 2013.11.24 07:00:00 - [14] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Why don't you like my names? Some of them are kind of boring, or stereotypical. Like Knight, Chosen, Keeper, or Templar. They also don't sound right when you put them next to some other Amarr vessel names. Fizzer94 wrote: I don't think the Amarr would name anything after the Elohim. That's almost heretical. Funny you should mention that... Humanity is the personification of change.
Ulysses Knapse duna corp 628	Posted - 2013.11.24 07:23:00 - [15] - Quote Alright, just to get the creative juices flowing, I've created a complete list of dropsuit names. Give me ideas for improvement if you want. I won't be making names for separate tiers, however, because I hate the current tier system. I would prefer to see EVE's Tech Level system instead. - - - GALLENTE DROPSUIT NAMES: Velites Dropsuit -- Gallente Light Dropsuit, T1 Proskopos Dropsuit -- Gallente Scout Dropsuit, T2 Legionnaire Dropsuit -- Gallente Medium Dropsuit, T1 Phalanx Dropsuit -- Gallente Assault Dropsuit, T2 Iatros Dropsuit -- Gallente Logistics Dropsuit, T2 Legatus Dropsuit -- Gallente Crusader Dropsuit, T2 Centurion Dropsuit -- Gallente Heavy Dropsuit, T1 Oplismos Dropsuit -- Gallente Sentinel Dropsuit, T2 Pyrovolo Dropsuit - Gallente Commando Dropsuit, T2 Theos Dropsuit - Gallente Strategic Dropsuit, T3 - - - AMARR DROPSUIT NAMES: Herald Dropsuit -- Amarr Light Dropsuit, T1 Augur Dropsuit -- Amarr Scout Dropsuit, T2 Vicar Dropsuit -- Amarr Medium Dropsuit, T1 Evocator Dropsuit -- Amarr Assault Dropsuit, T2 Curator Dropsuit -- Amarr Logistics Dropsuit, T2 Elohim Dropsuit -- Amarr Crusader Dropsuit, T2 Sectarian Dropsuit -- Amarr Heavy Dropsuit, T1 Subjugator Dropsuit -- Amarr Sentinel Dropsuit, T2 Garroter Dropsuit -- Amarr Commando Dropsuit, T2 Seraphim Dropsuit -- Amarr Strategic Dropsuit, T3 - - - CALDARI DROPSUIT NAMES: Wren Dropsuit -- Caldari Light Dropsuit, T1 Darter Dropsuit -- Caldari Scout Dropsuit, T2 Kite Dropsuit -- Caldari Medium Dropsuit, T1 Jackdaw Dropsuit -- Caldari Assault Dropsuit, T2 Sparrow Dropsuit -- Caldari Logistics Dropsuit, T2 Cardinal Dropsuit -- Caldari Crusader Dropsuit, T2 Harrier Dropsuit -- Caldari Heavy Dropsuit, T1 Adzebill Dropsuit -- Caldari Sentinel Dropsuit, T2 Shrike Dropsuit -- Caldari Commando Dropsuit, T2 Nightingale Dropsuit -- Caldari Strategic Dropsuit, T3 - - - MINMATAR DROPSUIT NAMES: Fray Dropsuit -- Minmatar Light Dropsuit, T1 Surge Dropsuit -- Minmatar Scout Dropsuit, T2 Rive Dropsuit -- Minmatar Medium Dropsuit, T1 Sunder Dropsuit -- Minmatar Assault Dropsuit, T2 Baste Dropsuit -- Minmatar Logistics Dropsuit, T2 Skoll Dropsuit -- Minmatar Crusader Dropsuit, T2 Cudgel Dropsuit -- Minmatar Heavy Dropsuit, T1 Bludgeon Dropsuit -- Minmatar Sentinel Dropsuit, T2 Fracture Dropsuit -- Minmatar Commando Dropsuit, T2 Vali Dropsuit -- Minmatar Strategic Dropsuit, T3 Humanity is the personification of change.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5271	Posted - 2013.11.24 07:24:00 - [16] - Quote I agree. They need names on all of them. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
Ulysses Knapse duna corp 628	Posted - 2013.11.24 07:39:00 - [17] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I agree. They need names on all of them. I agree with this man's agreement! Humanity is the personification of change.
Subject 36 The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 13	Posted - 2013.11.24 08:28:00 - [18] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: Here are my Amarr names I came up with earlier. I might as well show them if everyone else is going to show theirs. Herald Dropsuit -- Amarr Light Dropsuit, T1 Augur Dropsuit -- Amarr Scout Dropsuit, T2 Vicar Dropsuit -- Amarr Medium Dropsuit, T1 Evocator Dropsuit -- Amarr Assault Dropsuit, T2 Curator Dropsuit -- Amarr Logistics Dropsuit, T2 Elohim Dropsuit -- Amarr Crusader Dropsuit, T2 Sectarian Dropsuit -- Amarr Heavy Dropsuit, T1 Subjugator Dropsuit -- Amarr Sentinel Dropsuit, T2 Garroter Dropsuit -- Amarr Commando Dropsuit, T2 It follows the Amarr naming conventions pretty well, unlike someone elses (I'm not pointing out names, here ). I like the Amarr Sentinel Dropsuit. I don't know why but it appeals to me. The Logi That Saves.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 116	Posted - 2013.12.09 01:34:00 - [19] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Gallente heavy commando 'Hecatonchires' Caldari scout 'Kamaitachi' Minmatar logistics 'Valkyrie' (may be used by a drone) Amarr assault 'Errant' The Hecatonchires is taken as a name by a loyal Amarr FW corporation. Sorry you're going to have to find another. Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
TheLord HighMarshal Hellbrecht THE HECATONCHIRES 2	Posted - 2013.12.09 01:40:00 - [20] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Gallente heavy commando 'Hecatonchires' Caldari scout 'Kamaitachi' Minmatar logistics 'Valkyrie' (may be used by a drone) Amarr assault 'Errant' We are the Hecatonchires

Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1245	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:28:00 - [21] - Quote Ehh I just name most of my suits after gods even though Amarrians are polytheistic "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Faunher The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 13	Posted - 2013.12.09 05:04:00 - [22] - Quote Minmatar Medium: Rusty Can Minmatar Scout: Fast Rusty Can Minmatar Assault: Rusty Can w/ Duct Tape Minmatar Logi: Rusty Can that applies Duct Tape
Samael Artico Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 21	Posted - 2013.12.12 06:56:00 - [23] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Ehh I just name most of my suits after gods even though Amarrians are polytheistic Monotheistic, you ignoramus!
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 817	Posted - 2013.12.20 05:19:00 - [24] - Quote Faunher wrote: Minmatar Medium: Rusty Can Minmatar Scout: Fast Rusty Can Minmatar Assault: Rusty Can w/ Duct Tape Minmatar Logi: Rusty Can that applies Duct Tape It's not rust, the metal always looks like that. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 72	Posted - 2013.12.20 13:45:00 - [25] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: zibathy numbertwo wrote: I agree with this. They need names. But the classification-esque names help identify them, you know? I think it would have to have a name with the names we have currently in subtext below it in the market. Just for better understanding. EVE has widely varying ship classifications as well, and I've never had any real problems identifying ships. It helps that EVE lovingly showers you with identification material. Keep in mind, though, that all dropsuits are organized by classification in the market already, so a subtext might be a little unnecessary. Ulysses, I fully agree with your mindset. Nothing says "EVE" better than a "Name" that either comes from CCP designers' nickname for the shape of the ship, or comes from one of the racial industry brands right out of Eve lore. I even suspect that the devs agree with you too, and that's why up until the last patch they had Clarity Ward shield booster, and Jovian powerplant module, Carapace armor hardener, etc. I can understand and accept SOME of the things we slap on our suits as being just "generic enhanced coffee grinder", "basic graffiti spray can nozzle", "complex grip can opener". But balance that with just what you say: "a loving shower of identification material", whenever possible! It gives Dust the important "EVE flavor", without any real risk of damaging our gridiron "DUST mercilessness". It gives individual players like me the vanity I want, so I can say "my vehicle has 2 poly-plasma plates, protected by the coveted Tibus-Hess regenerator" And it makes sense as we merge more and more into interaction with EVE Online players, that we grab more of the naming-customs that EVE uses,... (not drift further away from them, like we just did with Patch 1.7). Cheers Ulysses!
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1109	Posted - 2013.12.20 19:26:00 - [26] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: Velites Dropsuit -- Gallente Light Dropsuit, T1 Proskopos Dropsuit -- Gallente Scout Dropsuit, T2 Legionnaire Dropsuit -- Gallente Medium Dropsuit, T1 Phalanx Dropsuit -- Gallente Assault Dropsuit, T2 Iatros Dropsuit -- Gallente Logistics Dropsuit, T2 Legatus Dropsuit -- Gallente Crusader Dropsuit, T2 Centurion Dropsuit -- Gallente Heavy Dropsuit, T1 Oplismos Dropsuit -- Gallente Sentinel Dropsuit, T2 Pyrovolo Dropsuit - Gallente Commando Dropsuit, T2 I wasn't really buying the idea until you gave them Roman and Greek ancient military names. I run Gallente equipment, and I'd love to have all my suits have these names. I'd hate it if CCP gave these names to the Amarr. Tarn chose peace. Tallen chose war. Where is my Gallente sidearm? SoonGäó514
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 915	Posted - 2013.12.29 06:26:00 - [27] - Quote Cool names for the win? What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage is more lethal.
Delenne Arran Ivory Hounds 57	Posted - 2013.12.29 07:50:00 - [28] - Quote I don't feel particularly strongly about this one way or the other, but lean slightly towards "nah."As much as I love lore, it makes sense to me that the dropsuits don't each get individual names, in part because they're just body armor. It makes sense to say "get in your Gunnlogi," but not "put on your Cardinal." Besides that, the current naming scheme resists confusion since the suit's class, race of origin, and tech level are all there is to it. I'd much rather know at a glance if I'm shooting at a militia or prototype Caldari Assault suit than sit there trying to remember what the hell race and tech level a Jackdaw is. Of course, we could always take a page from the Aurum variants and meet halfway. Make it display as '"Jackdaw' Assault C/1-Series" or something.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 919	Posted - 2013.12.29 07:55:00 - [29] - Quote Delenne Arran wrote: Besides that, the current naming scheme resists confusion since the suit's class, race of origin, and tech level are all there is to it. I'd much rather know at a glance if I'm shooting at a militia or prototype Caldari Assault suit than sit there trying to remember what the hell race and tech level a Jackdaw is. To be honest, I think each dropsuit having their own individual names would be less confusing, as each dropsuit would be more memorable as a result of their naming. There would be a slightly higher learning curve, but better retention overall, especially if there are multiple variants per dropsuit class. Also, a decent icon is a good indicator. It can tell you tech level and faction at a glance. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage is more lethal.
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 43	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:49:00 - [30] - Quote ok but ships actually get names. military suits dont. There are fighter jets out the with names like "warthog" and "harrier". they dont name kevlar vests (bulletproof vests) things like "Wildcat" or BDU's like "Thunderbolt"



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