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          Tesfa Alem 
          Death by Disassociation Zero-Day
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 00:50:00 -
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          Bad news for all vehicles, we will all have to return to the supply depot. Every single forge gunner /av user will know exactly where we will all HAVE TO BE at some point in the match. Imagine if every single infantry player had to sit in front of tank at least once every match in order to re-arm. 
  You infantry guys may say "what about domination." In domination no player is forced to hack the objective out in the open, one by one, in front of thales sniper, in order to get more ammo. 
  It takes just 1 forge gunner, or one rail tank to take out all of the supply depots on a map, congratulations pilot, your vehicle is now useless. You'll recall and call in a replacement tank or dropship every time you run out ammo, which same forge gunner can observe and blow up at leisure.
  Tank Drivers expect landmines, swarms, forges and redline rail tanks to zero in on every route to every supply depot. Dropships you only have to worry about 2500 k forge rounds as you a forced to land.
  I will still fly, but being forced to be at fixed point with such a large target, underfire every single player in the game knows about really grates my nerves.
 *I fly I shoot I rep I tank/ 
Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/
I'm the Jack of all trades/
Master of Some 
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          DUST Fiend 
          OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 00:52:00 -
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          I wonder if we'll be seeing deployable installations sometime soon, so you could just drop your own supply depot. It's not that hard to recall your vehicle and call in another in the meantime.
 Words / Vids / OSG 
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          Nguruthos IX 
          PEN 15 CLUB
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 00:57:00 -
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          lol @ no vehicles in ambush anymore
  And the fact that Skirm games take way too long and risk way too much in a vehicle to remotely pay break even over a few games.
  Terrible SP and ISK no matter how well you do. Make one mistake, lose a million isk
  Make no mistakes but a turret falls on your head or RDV decloaks inside you, or MCC missile intersects with your path and its GG
  Plus they removed 2 slots off assault ds.  Yeah, this so far is looking as ill-thought out as I'd expect it to be.
 
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          Nguruthos IX 
          PEN 15 CLUB
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 00:58:00 -
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          Tesfa Alem wrote:Bad news for all vehicles, we will all have to return to the supply depot. Every single forge gunner /av user will know exactly where we will all HAVE TO BE at some point in the match. Imagine if every single infantry player had to sit in front of tank at least once every match in order to re-arm. 
  You infantry guys may say "what about domination." In domination no player is forced to hack the objective out in the open, one by one, in front of thales sniper, in order to get more ammo. 
  It takes just 1 forge gunner, or one rail tank to take out all of the supply depots on a map, congratulations pilot, your vehicle is now useless. You'll recall and call in a replacement tank or dropship every time you run out ammo, which same forge gunner can observe and blow up at leisure.
  Tank Drivers expect landmines, swarms, forges and redline rail tanks to zero in on every route to every supply depot. Dropships you only have to worry about 2500 k forge rounds as you a forced to land.
  I will still fly, but being forced to be at fixed point with such a large target, underfire every single player in the game knows about really grates my nerves.  
  Even if this mechanic wasnt stupid as hell, the radius you need to be within near a supply depot is too close
  Can't wait to see all the tanks and LAV's wrecking into me as I try to restock ammo infront of every forge gunner's candy filled pinata 
  and other terrible pilots flying in for ammo, smashing me to pieces. Wow CCP
  wow
  just wow.
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          Tesfa Alem 
          Death by Disassociation Zero-Day
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:00:00 -
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          I wish, but I can't tell you how many times I'vve blown up vehicles being called in. Or how many times i've screamed at bluedots to GTFO...BOOM rail round in the face. Ultra long cooldown cycle for hardeners means even during recall my ship will be weaker than ever.
 
  Mind you, i am also going to exploit this.
 *I fly I shoot I rep I tank/ 
Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/
I'm the Jack of all trades/
Master of Some 
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          Vulpes Dolosus 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:02:00 -
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          Nguruthos IX wrote:lol @ no vehicles in ambush anymore
  And the fact that Skirm games take way too long and risk way too much in a vehicle to remotely pay break even over a few games.
  Terrible SP and ISK no matter how well you do. Make one mistake, lose a million isk
  Make no mistakes but a turret falls on your head or RDV decloaks inside you, or MCC missile intersects with your path and its GG
  Plus they removed 2 slots off assault ds.  Yeah, this so far is looking as ill-thought out as I'd expect it to be.
 
    We can still recall vehicles and call them back in...
 Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane 
Kills- Incubus: 2; Pythons: 0; Logistics: 0; Militia: 10 
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          Atiim 
          Living Like Larry Schwag
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:02:00 -
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          So it was perfectly balanced to have literal infinite ammo on your turrets? 
  AV is already being nerfed so like I asked in another thread "dafuq you want?"
  Don't even bother answering that question, I already know what tankers want.
 Check out my corp's new website here :D 
-HAND 
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          IceShifter Childhaspawn 
          DUST University Ivy League
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:02:00 -
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          I would be heavily investing in proximity mines and flux grenades (if we had a player market.)
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          Tesfa Alem 
          Death by Disassociation Zero-Day
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:10:00 -
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          Atiim wrote:So it was perfectly balanced to have literal infinite ammo on your turrets? 
  AV is already being nerfed so like I asked in another thread "dafuq you want?"
  Don't even bother answering that question, I already know what tankers want.  
 
  I don't want infinite ammo at all.
  I also don't want to be forced to show up at one obvious target in order to resupply.
  Forge guns are not nerfed by the way. 
  When all infantry can carry nano hives (infact people complain about nanohive spam). One thing infantry has never complained about is a lack of ammunition. Also, you dont have to return to the redline in a line under fire in order to resupply. That would be unbalanced.
 
 *I fly I shoot I rep I tank/ 
Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/
I'm the Jack of all trades/
Master of Some 
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          Nguruthos IX 
          PEN 15 CLUB
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:12:00 -
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          Tesfa Alem wrote:Atiim wrote:So it was perfectly balanced to have literal infinite ammo on your turrets? 
  AV is already being nerfed so like I asked in another thread "dafuq you want?"
  Don't even bother answering that question, I already know what tankers want.  I don't want infinite ammo at all. I also don't want to be forced to show up at one obvious target in order to resupply. Forge guns are not nerfed by the way.  When all infantry can carry nano hives (infact people complain about nanohive spam). One thing infantry has never complained about is a lack of ammunition. Also, you dont have to return to the redline in a line under fire in order to resupply. That would be unbalanced.  
 
  CCP really herp durped their way through so many things in this patch. I'd be enraged if I cared about this game anymore.
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          ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals 
          Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:19:00 -
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          I'll wait till it drops before being all gloom-n-doom.
 Damn Imperials! 
Dust 514 belongs to the ARs! 
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          Viktor Hadah Jr 
          Negative-Impact Cult of War
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:21:00 -
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          There is a supply depot at every spawn that generally does not get destroyed.
 For the Empire! 
Dual tanking is a sin. 
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          The dark cloud 
          The Rainbow Effect
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:25:00 -
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          This is what you deserve for blowing up supply depots the whole day long. And yes i will put 300 "landmines" around red supply depots and wait with a swarm launcher for a tank. Carma is a b!tch.
 I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun 
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          Reav Hannari 
          Red Rock Outriders
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          ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:I'll wait till it drops before being all gloom-n-doom.  
  This. Don't assume that they haven't accounted for the need to resupply vehicles.
 // Logistics / Scout / Dropship Pilot // https://twitter.com/reesnoturana 
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          Tesfa Alem 
          Death by Disassociation Zero-Day
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:27:00 -
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          Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:There is a supply depot at every spawn that generally does not get destroyed.  
  Because its not a threat. If every tank had to park next to it, it will become a target. That supply depot is either going to be bait, or destroyed to prevent acess. 
 
 *I fly I shoot I rep I tank/ 
Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/
I'm the Jack of all trades/
Master of Some 
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          Patrick57 
          GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:29:00 -
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          What happened to passive ammo regeneration?
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          Cosgar 
          ParagonX
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:31:00 -
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          Maybe we'll eventually get logistics vehicles that can supply ammo?
 I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?" 
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          XxWarlordxX97 
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          Tesfa Alem wrote:Bad news for all vehicles, we will all have to return to the supply depot. Every single forge gunner /av user will know exactly where we will all HAVE TO BE at some point in the match. Imagine if every single infantry player had to sit in front of tank at least once every match in order to re-arm. 
  You infantry guys may say "what about domination." In domination no player is forced to hack the objective out in the open, one by one, in front of thales sniper, in order to get more ammo. 
  It takes just 1 forge gunner, or one rail tank to take out all of the supply depots on a map, congratulations pilot, your vehicle is now useless. You'll recall and call in a replacement tank or dropship every time you run out ammo, which same forge gunner can observe and blow up at leisure.
  Tank Drivers expect landmines, swarms, forges and redline rail tanks to zero in on every route to every supply depot. Dropships you only have to worry about 2500 k forge rounds as you a forced to land.
  I will still fly, but being forced to be at fixed point with such a large target, underfire every single player in the game knows about really grates my nerves.  
  You will run out of ammo and I will get you,Scary AV guy said 
 Level 5 forum warrior 
Heavy/Scout <3 
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          Patrick57 
          GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:32:00 -
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          Cosgar wrote:Maybe we'll eventually get logistics vehicles that can supply ammo?   Maybe give a use for Logi LAVs and Dropships? They could also get 10-15 points for resupplying :D
 ö/\ö :D 
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          Tesfa Alem 
          Death by Disassociation Zero-Day
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:33:00 -
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          Cosgar wrote:Maybe we'll eventually get logistics vehicles that can supply ammo?  
  I really hope so.
 *I fly I shoot I rep I tank/ 
Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/
I'm the Jack of all trades/
Master of Some 
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          Cosgar 
          ParagonX
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:35:00 -
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          Tesfa Alem wrote:Cosgar wrote:Maybe we'll eventually get logistics vehicles that can supply ammo?  I really hope so.   Judging from they way CCP is making vehicles more like dropsuits, it's inevitable.
 I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?" 
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          Heathen Bastard 
          The Bastard Brigade
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:36:00 -
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          Atiim wrote:So it was perfectly balanced to have literal infinite ammo on your turrets? 
  AV is already being nerfed so like I asked in another thread "dafuq you want?"
  Don't even bother answering that question, I already know what tankers want.  
  the swarms and grenades are being nerfed. and they can restock anywhere on the field(who makes an AV fit without a nanohive? A moron, that's who) instead of clearly defined points that every enemy on the field will be watching, or being totally useless for a minute and having their million invested be a sitting duck for up to 30 seconds while the drunk RDV can't find the "drop off tank" button.
  I'm so sorry that you're being nerfed less than we are to preserve the AV=superiority style of play that exists right now.
  Tankers want to be remotely competitive, not pinatas.
 If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened. 
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          Reav Hannari 
          Red Rock Outriders
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:36:00 -
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          Cosgar wrote:Maybe we'll eventually get logistics vehicles that can supply ammo?  
  You mean the true meaning of logistics? That makes way too much sense.
 // Logistics / Scout / Dropship Pilot // https://twitter.com/reesnoturana 
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          Tesfa Alem 
          Death by Disassociation Zero-Day
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:36:00 -
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          XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:Bad news for all vehicles, we will all have to return to the supply depot. Every single forge gunner /av user will know exactly where we will all HAVE TO BE at some point in the match. Imagine if every single infantry player had to sit in front of tank at least once every match in order to re-arm. 
  You infantry guys may say "what about domination." In domination no player is forced to hack the objective out in the open, one by one, in front of thales sniper, in order to get more ammo. 
  It takes just 1 forge gunner, or one rail tank to take out all of the supply depots on a map, congratulations pilot, your vehicle is now useless. You'll recall and call in a replacement tank or dropship every time you run out ammo, which same forge gunner can observe and blow up at leisure.
  Tank Drivers expect landmines, swarms, forges and redline rail tanks to zero in on every route to every supply depot. Dropships you only have to worry about 2500 k forge rounds as you a forced to land.
  I will still fly, but being forced to be at fixed point with such a large target, underfire every single player in the game knows about really grates my nerves.  You will run out of ammo and I will get you,Scary AV guy said   
  dem Kala...kaliotaka....kalkia mama.....ARRG! 
  Proto Forges ARE scary! 
  I'd love to see the day when a giant blue ball flashes by the cockpit of dropship, and the pilot is all "no worries m8"
 *I fly I shoot I rep I tank/ 
Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/
I'm the Jack of all trades/
Master of Some 
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          Patrick57 
          GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:38:00 -
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          Tesfa Alem wrote:I'd love to see the day when a giant blue ball flashes by the cockpit of dropship, and the pilot is all "no worries m8"   These days it's just "OH **** WHAT THE **** WAS THAT!!!" *jumps out **commits suicide because he got out through the front door
 ö/\ö :D 
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          Mortedeamor 
          WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:39:00 -
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          DUST Fiend wrote:I wonder if we'll be seeing deployable installations sometime soon, so you could just drop your own supply depot. It's not that hard to recall your vehicle and call in another in the meantime. 
  Wait till everyone has to buy each round they use, vehicle and infantry alike   i personally would like to see the logistics lavs reworked to compliment the tanks like logi's compliment heavies..including the ability to shuttle ammo to a tanker | 
      
      
      
          
          1st Lieutenant Tiberius 
          0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:40:00 -
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          The dark cloud wrote:This is what you deserve for blowing up supply depots the whole day long. And yes i will put 300 "landmines" around red supply depots and wait with a swarm launcher for a tank. Carma is a b!tch.  
  Karma*
 The Sinwarden 
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          Patrick57 
          GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 01:41:00 -
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          1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:The dark cloud wrote:This is what you deserve for blowing up supply depots the whole day long. And yes i will put 300 "landmines" around red supply depots and wait with a swarm launcher for a tank. Carma is a b!tch.  Karma*   ******* :D
  That didn't work like I wanted it to.
 ö/\ö :D 
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          Mr m4gic 
          Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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          I like the idea of having to resupply your vehicles but u will never need to with drop ships or LAV cos they get blown up almost instantly anyway, they need to make them Powerful again, tanks seem to be doing ok atm theyre lasting pretty well in battles, they need to make Lavs able to squash ppl nd handle better then make them cost more, and offer more cover from them in the maps with sand banks walls bunkers and so on, Lavs are easy to take out, I never understood why they changed it. drop ships need to rain a barrage of machine gun fire if u played cod u got so many kills then called in a gunship then ended up with a mass load of kills, its standard of wargames to die LOADS and get frustrated, if they weren't theyd be borin I say make them all BADASS but so exspensive tht u have to KILL a lot off ppl to be able to afford such extras in battle. | 
      
      
      
          
          Cosgar 
          ParagonX
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        Posted - 2013.11.20 02:26:00 -
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          Reav Hannari wrote:Cosgar wrote:Maybe we'll eventually get logistics vehicles that can supply ammo?  You mean the true meaning of logistics? That makes way too much sense.    There's probably going to be more to logi vehicles than dropping ammo and rep bombing. There's lots of EWAR opportunities when it comes to vehicle on vehicle combat.
 I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?" 
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