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Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 14	Posted - 2013.11.20 00:50:00 - [1] - Quote Bad news for all vehicles, we will all have to return to the supply depot. Every single forge gunner /av user will know exactly where we will all HAVE TO BE at some point in the match. Imagine if every single infantry player had to sit in front of tank at least once every match in order to re-arm. You infantry guys may say "what about domination." In domination no player is forced to hack the objective out in the open, one by one, in front of thales sniper, in order to get more ammo. It takes just 1 forge gunner, or one rail tank to take out all of the supply depots on a map, congratulations pilot, your vehicle is now useless. You'll recall and call in a replacement tank or dropship every time you run out ammo, which same forge gunner can observe and blow up at leisure. Tank Drivers expect landmines, swarms, forges and redline rail tanks to zero in on every route to every supply depot. Dropships you only have to worry about 2500 k forge rounds as you a forced to land. I will still fly, but being forced to be at fixed point with such a large target, underfire every single player in the game knows about really grates my nerves. *I fly I shoot I rep I tank/ Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/ I'm the Jack of all trades/ Master of Some
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7831	Posted - 2013.11.20 00:52:00 - [2] - Quote I wonder if we'll be seeing deployable installations sometime soon, so you could just drop your own supply depot. It's not that hard to recall your vehicle and call in another in the meantime. Words / Vids / OSG
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 2254	Posted - 2013.11.20 00:57:00 - [3] - Quote lol @ no vehicles in ambush anymore And the fact that Skirm games take way too long and risk way too much in a vehicle to remotely pay break even over a few games. Terrible SP and ISK no matter how well you do. Make one mistake, lose a million isk Make no mistakes but a turret falls on your head or RDV decloaks inside you, or MCC missile intersects with your path and its GG Plus they removed 2 slots off assault ds. Yeah, this so far is looking as ill-thought out as I'd expect it to be.
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 2254	Posted - 2013.11.20 00:58:00 - [4] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Bad news for all vehicles, we will all have to return to the supply depot. Every single forge gunner /av user will know exactly where we will all HAVE TO BE at some point in the match. Imagine if every single infantry player had to sit in front of tank at least once every match in order to re-arm. You infantry guys may say "what about domination." In domination no player is forced to hack the objective out in the open, one by one, in front of thales sniper, in order to get more ammo. It takes just 1 forge gunner, or one rail tank to take out all of the supply depots on a map, congratulations pilot, your vehicle is now useless. You'll recall and call in a replacement tank or dropship every time you run out ammo, which same forge gunner can observe and blow up at leisure. Tank Drivers expect landmines, swarms, forges and redline rail tanks to zero in on every route to every supply depot. Dropships you only have to worry about 2500 k forge rounds as you a forced to land. I will still fly, but being forced to be at fixed point with such a large target, underfire every single player in the game knows about really grates my nerves. Even if this mechanic wasnt stupid as hell, the radius you need to be within near a supply depot is too close Can't wait to see all the tanks and LAV's wrecking into me as I try to restock ammo infront of every forge gunner's candy filled pinata and other terrible pilots flying in for ammo, smashing me to pieces. Wow CCP wow just wow.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 15	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:00:00 - [5] - Quote I wish, but I can't tell you how many times I'vve blown up vehicles being called in. Or how many times i've screamed at bluedots to GTFO...BOOM rail round in the face. Ultra long cooldown cycle for hardeners means even during recall my ship will be weaker than ever. Mind you, i am also going to exploit this. *I fly I shoot I rep I tank/ Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/ I'm the Jack of all trades/ Master of Some
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 301	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:02:00 - [6] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: lol @ no vehicles in ambush anymore And the fact that Skirm games take way too long and risk way too much in a vehicle to remotely pay break even over a few games. Terrible SP and ISK no matter how well you do. Make one mistake, lose a million isk Make no mistakes but a turret falls on your head or RDV decloaks inside you, or MCC missile intersects with your path and its GG Plus they removed 2 slots off assault ds. Yeah, this so far is looking as ill-thought out as I'd expect it to be. We can still recall vehicles and call them back in... Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane Kills- Incubus: 2; Pythons: 0; Logistics: 0; Militia: 10
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1168	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:02:00 - [7] - Quote So it was perfectly balanced to have literal infinite ammo on your turrets? AV is already being nerfed so like I asked in another thread "dafuq you want?" Don't even bother answering that question, I already know what tankers want. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 409	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:02:00 - [8] - Quote I would be heavily investing in proximity mines and flux grenades (if we had a player market.) GûæGûæGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê ]GûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûä - Just a bit further... IlGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê] ..GùÑGèÖGû¦GèÖGùñ......GùÑGèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGùñ xxx xxx xxx
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 16	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:10:00 - [9] - Quote Atiim wrote: So it was perfectly balanced to have literal infinite ammo on your turrets? AV is already being nerfed so like I asked in another thread "dafuq you want?" Don't even bother answering that question, I already know what tankers want. I don't want infinite ammo at all. I also don't want to be forced to show up at one obvious target in order to resupply. Forge guns are not nerfed by the way. When all infantry can carry nano hives (infact people complain about nanohive spam). One thing infantry has never complained about is a lack of ammunition. Also, you dont have to return to the redline in a line under fire in order to resupply. That would be unbalanced. *I fly I shoot I rep I tank/ Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/ I'm the Jack of all trades/ Master of Some
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 2254	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:12:00 - [10] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Atiim wrote: So it was perfectly balanced to have literal infinite ammo on your turrets? AV is already being nerfed so like I asked in another thread "dafuq you want?" Don't even bother answering that question, I already know what tankers want. I don't want infinite ammo at all. I also don't want to be forced to show up at one obvious target in order to resupply. Forge guns are not nerfed by the way. When all infantry can carry nano hives (infact people complain about nanohive spam). One thing infantry has never complained about is a lack of ammunition. Also, you dont have to return to the redline in a line under fire in order to resupply. That would be unbalanced. CCP really herp durped their way through so many things in this patch. I'd be enraged if I cared about this game anymore. I think after seeing how bad 1.7 is nobody who does vehicles will.

ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 476	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:19:00 - [11] - Quote I'll wait till it drops before being all gloom-n-doom. Damn Imperials! Dust 514 belongs to the ARs!
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 1128	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:21:00 - [12] - Quote There is a supply depot at every spawn that generally does not get destroyed. For the Empire! Dual tanking is a sin.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 1884	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:25:00 - [13] - Quote This is what you deserve for blowing up supply depots the whole day long. And yes i will put 300 "landmines" around red supply depots and wait with a swarm launcher for a tank. Carma is a b!tch. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1867	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:25:00 - [14] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: I'll wait till it drops before being all gloom-n-doom. This. Don't assume that they haven't accounted for the need to resupply vehicles. // Logistics / Scout / Dropship Pilot // https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 16	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:27:00 - [15] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: There is a supply depot at every spawn that generally does not get destroyed. Because its not a threat. If every tank had to park next to it, it will become a target. That supply depot is either going to be bait, or destroyed to prevent acess. *I fly I shoot I rep I tank/ Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/ I'm the Jack of all trades/ Master of Some
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1560	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:29:00 - [16] - Quote What happened to passive ammo regeneration? ö/\ö :D
Cosgar ParagonX 7940	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:31:00 - [17] - Quote Maybe we'll eventually get logistics vehicles that can supply ammo? I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
XxWarlordxX97 5537	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:32:00 - [18] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Bad news for all vehicles, we will all have to return to the supply depot. Every single forge gunner /av user will know exactly where we will all HAVE TO BE at some point in the match. Imagine if every single infantry player had to sit in front of tank at least once every match in order to re-arm. You infantry guys may say "what about domination." In domination no player is forced to hack the objective out in the open, one by one, in front of thales sniper, in order to get more ammo. It takes just 1 forge gunner, or one rail tank to take out all of the supply depots on a map, congratulations pilot, your vehicle is now useless. You'll recall and call in a replacement tank or dropship every time you run out ammo, which same forge gunner can observe and blow up at leisure. Tank Drivers expect landmines, swarms, forges and redline rail tanks to zero in on every route to every supply depot. Dropships you only have to worry about 2500 k forge rounds as you a forced to land. I will still fly, but being forced to be at fixed point with such a large target, underfire every single player in the game knows about really grates my nerves. You will run out of ammo and I will get you,Scary AV guy said Level 5 forum warrior Heavy/Scout <3
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1560	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:32:00 - [19] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Maybe we'll eventually get logistics vehicles that can supply ammo? Maybe give a use for Logi LAVs and Dropships? They could also get 10-15 points for resupplying :D ö/\ö :D
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 17	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:33:00 - [20] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Maybe we'll eventually get logistics vehicles that can supply ammo? I really hope so. *I fly I shoot I rep I tank/ Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/ I'm the Jack of all trades/ Master of Some

Cosgar ParagonX 7940	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:35:00 - [21] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Cosgar wrote: Maybe we'll eventually get logistics vehicles that can supply ammo? I really hope so. Judging from they way CCP is making vehicles more like dropsuits, it's inevitable. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 691	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:36:00 - [22] - Quote Atiim wrote: So it was perfectly balanced to have literal infinite ammo on your turrets? AV is already being nerfed so like I asked in another thread "dafuq you want?" Don't even bother answering that question, I already know what tankers want. the swarms and grenades are being nerfed. and they can restock anywhere on the field(who makes an AV fit without a nanohive? A moron, that's who) instead of clearly defined points that every enemy on the field will be watching, or being totally useless for a minute and having their million invested be a sitting duck for up to 30 seconds while the drunk RDV can't find the "drop off tank" button. I'm so sorry that you're being nerfed less than we are to preserve the AV=superiority style of play that exists right now. Tankers want to be remotely competitive, not pinatas. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1867	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:36:00 - [23] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Maybe we'll eventually get logistics vehicles that can supply ammo? You mean the true meaning of logistics? That makes way too much sense. // Logistics / Scout / Dropship Pilot // https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 17	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:36:00 - [24] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Bad news for all vehicles, we will all have to return to the supply depot. Every single forge gunner /av user will know exactly where we will all HAVE TO BE at some point in the match. Imagine if every single infantry player had to sit in front of tank at least once every match in order to re-arm. You infantry guys may say "what about domination." In domination no player is forced to hack the objective out in the open, one by one, in front of thales sniper, in order to get more ammo. It takes just 1 forge gunner, or one rail tank to take out all of the supply depots on a map, congratulations pilot, your vehicle is now useless. You'll recall and call in a replacement tank or dropship every time you run out ammo, which same forge gunner can observe and blow up at leisure. Tank Drivers expect landmines, swarms, forges and redline rail tanks to zero in on every route to every supply depot. Dropships you only have to worry about 2500 k forge rounds as you a forced to land. I will still fly, but being forced to be at fixed point with such a large target, underfire every single player in the game knows about really grates my nerves. You will run out of ammo and I will get you,Scary AV guy said dem Kala...kaliotaka....kalkia mama.....ARRG! Proto Forges ARE scary! I'd love to see the day when a giant blue ball flashes by the cockpit of dropship, and the pilot is all "no worries m8" *I fly I shoot I rep I tank/ Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/ I'm the Jack of all trades/ Master of Some
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1560	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:38:00 - [25] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: I'd love to see the day when a giant blue ball flashes by the cockpit of dropship, and the pilot is all "no worries m8" These days it's just "OH ** WHAT THE ** WAS THAT!!!" jumps out *commits suicide because he got out through the front door ö/\ö :D
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL 771	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:39:00 - [26] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I wonder if we'll be seeing deployable installations sometime soon, so you could just drop your own supply depot. It's not that hard to recall your vehicle and call in another in the meantime. Wait till everyone has to buy each round they use, vehicle and infantry alike i personally would like to see the logistics lavs reworked to compliment the tanks like logi's compliment heavies..including the ability to shuttle ammo to a tanker
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 503	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:40:00 - [27] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: This is what you deserve for blowing up supply depots the whole day long. And yes i will put 300 "landmines" around red supply depots and wait with a swarm launcher for a tank. Carma is a b!tch. Karma* The Sinwarden
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1561	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:41:00 - [28] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: The dark cloud wrote: This is what you deserve for blowing up supply depots the whole day long. And yes i will put 300 "landmines" around red supply depots and wait with a swarm launcher for a tank. Carma is a b!tch. Karma* ******* :D That didn't work like I wanted it to. ö/\ö :D
Mr m4gic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 13	Posted - 2013.11.20 02:01:00 - [29] - Quote I like the idea of having to resupply your vehicles but u will never need to with drop ships or LAV cos they get blown up almost instantly anyway, they need to make them Powerful again, tanks seem to be doing ok atm theyre lasting pretty well in battles, they need to make Lavs able to squash ppl nd handle better then make them cost more, and offer more cover from them in the maps with sand banks walls bunkers and so on, Lavs are easy to take out, I never understood why they changed it. drop ships need to rain a barrage of machine gun fire if u played cod u got so many kills then called in a gunship then ended up with a mass load of kills, its standard of wargames to die LOADS and get frustrated, if they weren't theyd be borin I say make them all BADASS but so exspensive tht u have to KILL a lot off ppl to be able to afford such extras in battle.
Cosgar ParagonX 7940	Posted - 2013.11.20 02:26:00 - [30] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Cosgar wrote: Maybe we'll eventually get logistics vehicles that can supply ammo? You mean the true meaning of logistics? That makes way too much sense. There's probably going to be more to logi vehicles than dropping ammo and rep bombing. There's lots of EWAR opportunities when it comes to vehicle on vehicle combat. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"

deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 146	Posted - 2013.11.20 02:32:00 - [31] - Quote Solution, vehicle only nano hives low slot module, activating it is drops a hive,enough for 3 full ressuply obly 2 can be carried And either slight buff to low slot mods or an additional slot to all/most vehicles Christ is lord Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now. Free tacos
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10415	Posted - 2013.11.20 02:35:00 - [32] - Quote And people said planet side 2 was more balanced when it's ammo and effectiveness is more restrained. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 722	Posted - 2013.11.20 03:27:00 - [33] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Atiim wrote: So it was perfectly balanced to have literal infinite ammo on your turrets? AV is already being nerfed so like I asked in another thread "dafuq you want?" Don't even bother answering that question, I already know what tankers want. I don't want infinite ammo at all. I also don't want to be forced to show up at one obvious target in order to resupply. Forge guns are not nerfed by the way. When all infantry can carry nano hives (infact people complain about nanohive spam). One thing infantry has never complained about is a lack of ammunition. Also, you dont have to return to the redline in a line under fire in order to resupply. That would be unbalanced. In each red zone you are given a supply depo that the enemy can not reach you can also recall your vehicle while deep in the redzone so your arguement doesn't really make any since. I am sure CCP will also add more depos in the redzone so if one gets blown up takers will have an alternative. If they loose there SDS then just recall =p. State Patriots a loyal Caldari based corporation is accepting all Caldari and Amarr to help fight on the front.
Void Echo 2215	Posted - 2013.11.20 03:38:00 - [34] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Atiim wrote: So it was perfectly balanced to have literal infinite ammo on your turrets? AV is already being nerfed so like I asked in another thread "dafuq you want?" Don't even bother answering that question, I already know what tankers want. I don't want infinite ammo at all. I also don't want to be forced to show up at one obvious target in order to resupply. Forge guns are not nerfed by the way. When all infantry can carry nano hives (infact people complain about nanohive spam). One thing infantry has never complained about is a lack of ammunition. Also, you dont have to return to the redline in a line under fire in order to resupply. That would be unbalanced. In each red zone you are given a supply depo that the enemy can not reach you can also recall your vehicle while deep in the redzone so your arguement doesn't really make any since. I am sure CCP will also add more depos in the redzone so if one gets blown up takers will have an alternative. If they loose there SDS then just recall =p. more depos doesn't solve anything, ammunition regeneration does. Youtube Closed Beta (Tanker) Vet Level 2.2 Forum Warrior
Zero Notion Wraith Company 354	Posted - 2013.11.20 03:39:00 - [35] - Quote Sounds like vehicle users are simply going to have to become better with their shots and think more carefully about how they expend their ammo. This way, you can cultivate better tank squads, dropship squads and the like who are skilled with the turrets. This is merely going to force the bad vehicle users out and make the good ones even better at what they do.
taxi bastard Minor Trueblood 16	Posted - 2013.11.20 03:47:00 - [36] - Quote firstly some tankers take out resupply depo's to stop infantry using them to change out suits...... good to see that will change. secondly finite ammo is a great thing, nothing more tedious than a tank spamming blaster shots next to you because they know you need to get past.
rebecca watson OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 73	Posted - 2013.11.20 03:55:00 - [37] - Quote I'm curious to see the exact mechanics of this. To be honest, this could introduce some incredibly interesting new levels of strategic play. Questions: Can you only resupply vehicles at a supply depot? Will nanohives work? (probably not) What about new vehicle nanohive? Will there be more supply depots after 1.7, or will their placement be changed to be behind enemy-redline-rail-snipe cover?
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1484	Posted - 2013.11.20 03:59:00 - [38] - Quote Meh, blame tankers. Vehicle balance is done with them in mind.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 897	Posted - 2013.11.20 04:00:00 - [39] - Quote are you reporting news from 2 months ago?
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals EoN. 228	Posted - 2013.11.20 04:02:00 - [40] - Quote Atiim wrote: So it was perfectly balanced to have literal infinite ammo on your turrets? AV is already being nerfed so like I asked in another thread "dafuq you want?" Don't even bother answering that question, I already know what tankers want. get STD Winmatar logi get ADV nano hives then fill the 3 slots with 3 different nano hives now you have enough ammo to swarm a tank 4 times over. Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........ Tanker/Logi Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have

Rusty Shallows 513	Posted - 2013.11.20 04:05:00 - [41] - Quote low genius wrote: are you reporting news from 2 months ago? Some of us thought the changes were going to be in place two months ago... "She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now," Thank you SR-71
Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 505	Posted - 2013.11.20 04:10:00 - [42] - Quote They should allow llavs to run ammo for other vehicles as a built in module. Each llav has one that relates to the race it comes from, so the shield llav resupplies rockets, and the armor one resupplies plasma rounds. Rail rounds should be one of those things that a supply depot should only supply as they are probably going to be quite powerful, and in short supply.
Joel II X AHPA 190	Posted - 2013.11.20 04:28:00 - [43] - Quote With all these vehicle threads, it makes me wonder: When are the pilot suits coming?
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10415	Posted - 2013.11.20 04:29:00 - [44] - Quote Zekain K wrote: They should allow llavs to run ammo for other vehicles as a built in module. Each llav has one that relates to the race it comes from, so the shield llav resupplies rockets, and the armor one resupplies plasma rounds. Rail rounds should be one of those things that a supply depot should only supply as they are probably going to be quite powerful, and in short supply. I like where this is going. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4637	Posted - 2013.11.20 04:53:00 - [45] - Quote >Implying that we will always be out of ammo and humping a supply depot. Never forget Level 4 Forum Warrior King of airborne swine.
Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 507	Posted - 2013.11.20 05:55:00 - [46] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Zekain K wrote: They should allow llavs to run ammo for other vehicles as a built in module. Each llav has one that relates to the race it comes from, so the shield llav resupplies rockets, and the armor one resupplies plasma rounds. Rail rounds should be one of those things that a supply depot should only supply as they are probably going to be quite powerful, and in short supply. I like where this is going. Then deliver the idea to CCP.


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