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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:03:00 -
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AR, MD, LR.
That's it.
Every body's always whining about AR 514, but look at the friken alternatives. A year and a half this game has been up and running now and all we have is 3 light anti-infantry weapons? Why? Seriously I want an official explanation. This game should have like ten or fifteen diferent light AI weapons. I mean yaknow, this seems like a no brainier here - integral to player retention - FPS 101. WERE IS THE VARIETY AND WHY DON'T WE HAVE IT YET.
Getting tired of waiting.
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ACE OF JOKERS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
99
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:04:00 -
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SCR? |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
319
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:06:00 -
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ACE OF JOKERS wrote:SCR?Grenades?
Weapon variants?
AR variant? Yup me thinks so.
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Project Serenity
252
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:07:00 -
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The troll is weak with this one.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
319
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:09:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:The troll is weak with this one.
Not trolling I'm serious.
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Meeko Fent
Commando Perkone Caldari State
1599
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:10:00 -
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ScR, Shotgun, SMG, ScP, HMG
There's a decent number of alternatives. Plus the variants of those
Yet, we see one pop up almost exclusively...
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Project Serenity
252
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:12:00 -
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You missed the ASCR and the already announced Combat Rifle and Rail Rifle (coming in 1.7)
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
319
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:13:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:ScR, Shotgun, SMG, ScP, HMG
There's a decent number of alternatives. Plus the variants of those
Yet, we see one pop up almost exclusively...
SGs don't count,to situational. The rest of your list consists of two sidearms and a heavy weapon.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
319
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:14:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:You missed the ASCR and the already announced Combat Rifle and Rail Rifle (coming in 1.7)
And you missed post #3 in this thread.
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Meeko Fent
Commando Perkone Caldari State
1599
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:26:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:ScR, Shotgun, SMG, ScP, HMG
There's a decent number of alternatives. Plus the variants of those
Yet, we see one pop up almost exclusively... SGs don't count,to situational. The rest of your list consists of two sidearms and a heavy weapon. That's like saying the TAR isn't to be counted because it's too situational to be a anti infantry weapon
And, the ScR is a light weapon thank you.
You doubt the power of a SMG
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Meeko Fent
Commando Perkone Caldari State
1600
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:29:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:ACE OF JOKERS wrote:SCR?Grenades?
Weapon variants? AR variant? Yup me thinks so. So, because it defies your idea it is therefore wrong?
The ScR is a precision style weapon, it is quite different from the AR
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TcuBe3
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
243
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:31:00 -
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Hush 1.7 is on the Horizon, soon we will have more alternatives... |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
319
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:33:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:ScR, Shotgun, SMG, ScP, HMG
There's a decent number of alternatives. Plus the variants of those
Yet, we see one pop up almost exclusively... SGs don't count,to situational. The rest of your list consists of two sidearms and a heavy weapon. That's like saying the TAR isn't to be counted because it's too situational to be a anti infantry weapon And, the ScR is a light weapon thank you. You doubt the power of a SMG
TAR is not situational. Deadly at 20m and beyond is not situational. Now deadly at no more than 10m, that is situational. SCR is just a friken AR variant. This game need to get creative with weapons design (which so far is terrible). Where are the weapons of the future? Where is the variety?
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
319
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:34:00 -
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TcuBe3 wrote:Hush 1.7 is on the Horizon, soon we will have more alternatives...
Yah great, more ARs. Just what we need. *Shakes his head*
{edit>>> more ARs that should have already been in the game by the time dust went into commercial release no less. Not to mention all the other stuff that was missing.
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TcuBe3
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
243
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:42:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:TcuBe3 wrote:Hush 1.7 is on the Horizon, soon we will have more alternatives... Yah great, more ARs. Just what we need. *Shakes his head* {edit>>> more ARs that should have already been in the game by the time dust went into commercial release no less. Not to mention all the other stuff that was missing.
Ok smart guy, since you are unsatisfied with all the weapon that are in the game. What is your suggestion then? What type of weapons should they add? Instead of being part of the problem why don't you contribute to the solution instead of spewing out garbage and complaints.
CCP Announcement
"Attention everyone, Son Of A Gun is not pleased with the current weapons in game, Drop everything you are doing to appease his requests".
GTFO...
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
319
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:46:00 -
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TcuBe3 wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:TcuBe3 wrote:Hush 1.7 is on the Horizon, soon we will have more alternatives... Yah great, more ARs. Just what we need. *Shakes his head* {edit>>> more ARs that should have already been in the game by the time dust went into commercial release no less. Not to mention all the other stuff that was missing. Ok smart guy, since you are unsatisfied with all the weapon that are in the game. What is your suggestion then? What type of weapons should they add? Instead of being part of the problem why don't you contribute to the solution instead of spewing out garbage and complaints. CCP Announcement "Attention everyone, Son Of A Gun is not pleased with the current weapons in game, Drop everything you are doing to appease his requests". GTFO...
Why don't you try and read the feedback/suggestion section every once and a while. It's full of Interesting ideas that are going absolutely nowhere. My feedback/suggestion days are long past now. Once I finally realized no one was listening or cared.
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
471
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:53:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:SGs don't count,to situational. The rest of your list consists of two sidearms and a heavy weapon.
This is where I stopped looking through this thread.
Damn Imperials!
Dust 514 belongs to the ARs!
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TcuBe3
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
243
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:54:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:TcuBe3 wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:TcuBe3 wrote:Hush 1.7 is on the Horizon, soon we will have more alternatives... Yah great, more ARs. Just what we need. *Shakes his head* {edit>>> more ARs that should have already been in the game by the time dust went into commercial release no less. Not to mention all the other stuff that was missing. Ok smart guy, since you are unsatisfied with all the weapon that are in the game. What is your suggestion then? What type of weapons should they add? Instead of being part of the problem why don't you contribute to the solution instead of spewing out garbage and complaints. CCP Announcement "Attention everyone, Son Of A Gun is not pleased with the current weapons in game, Drop everything you are doing to appease his requests". GTFO... Why don't you try and read the feedback/suggestion section every once and a while. It's full of Interesting ideas that are going absolutely nowhere. My feedback/suggestion days are long past now. Once I finally realized no one was listening or cared.
umm....
So you are accusing me of not reading the feedback forums because I told you to quit whining and stay positive. I am not going to now go and search over the thousands of feedback threads to find the one that you originated, mabye a link to your thread included with your bitching post would have stopped me.
Interesting, There is probably nothing I can say at this point as you have already made up your mind and you feel the need to whine and ***** like a little kid.
You have nothing to offer this community forums other than a negative attitude and complaints. Sarcasm ---->Because we all know that, that is going to do a hell of alot more good than offering constructive critisism and recommendations. |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
319
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Posted - 2013.11.19 02:01:00 -
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TcuBe3 wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:TcuBe3 wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:TcuBe3 wrote:Hush 1.7 is on the Horizon, soon we will have more alternatives... Yah great, more ARs. Just what we need. *Shakes his head* {edit>>> more ARs that should have already been in the game by the time dust went into commercial release no less. Not to mention all the other stuff that was missing. Ok smart guy, since you are unsatisfied with all the weapon that are in the game. What is your suggestion then? What type of weapons should they add? Instead of being part of the problem why don't you contribute to the solution instead of spewing out garbage and complaints. CCP Announcement "Attention everyone, Son Of A Gun is not pleased with the current weapons in game, Drop everything you are doing to appease his requests". GTFO... Why don't you try and read the feedback/suggestion section every once and a while. It's full of Interesting ideas that are going absolutely nowhere. My feedback/suggestion days are long past now. Once I finally realized no one was listening or cared. umm.... So you are accusing me of not reading the feedback forums because I told you to quit whining and stay positive. I am not going to now go and search over the thousands of feedback threads to find the one that you originated, mabye a link to your thread included with your bitching post would have stopped me. Interesting, There is probably nothing I can say at this point as you have already made up your mind and you feel the need to whine and ***** like a little kid. You have nothing to offer this community forums other than a negative attitude and complaints. Sarcasm ---->Because we all know that, that is going to do a hell of alot more good than offering constructive critisism and recommendations.
Oh yes, and marily going along pretending that everything is just dandy, when its not, is exactly the attitude that will get things fixed. Why didnt i see this before. Gee, I wonder if that would have worked for slaver or women's rights. You sir have the mind of a scholar.
/sarcasm
{edit>>> And no I'm not going looking for my old posts from a year or so ago either.
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Argent Mordred
DUST University Ivy League
20
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Posted - 2013.11.19 02:27:00 -
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Ok, we have shotguns, assault rifles (plasma and scrambler variants, with railgun and bullet variants soon to come), sniper rifles, grenade launchers, rpgs (the plasma launcher seems to fit this category, being intended to kill a heavy or able to try suppress a group somewhat,) laser rifles (which are sort of like an assault rifle but is it's own unique category of weapon, sui generis if you will,) as well as side arms like the pistol and the smg (the smg is a pocket light weapon anyway, really.)
What variant of firearm do want added? The only thing we don't have is a lmg, but the heavies have an hmg and suppression is only so useful in this game; it can be useful but a little of it goes a long way, and heavies are in search of a viable role these days. The hmg should probably be sufficient for anything that mass drivers or assault rifles can't handle. A lot of the weapons need work, but we aren't missing any major categories; we just have a lot of weapons poorly integrated into the game. |
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1480
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Posted - 2013.11.19 02:38:00 -
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By that logic BF4, COD74325904325 and Halo 10 all have only like a couple of real weapons too if I can lump things together like that
But yes, it does feel a bit low but the new content is helping that.
Closed Beta Vet
Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
319
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Posted - 2013.11.19 02:50:00 -
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@Argent Mordred
shotguns: already adressed this
assault rifles (plasma and scrambler variants, with railgun and bullet variants soon to come): part of the list I already gave.
sniper rifles: same deal as the shot gun only in reverse
, grenade launchers: MD part of the list I already gave
rpgs (the plasma launcher seems to fit this category, being intended to kill a heavy or able to try suppress a group somewhat,): AV weapon wasn't intended to be seriously viable against infantry, aside from that, there is no significant difference between this weapon and the MD.
laser rifles (which are sort of like an assault rifle but is it's own unique category of weapon, sui generis if you will,): part of the list I gave.
as well as side arms like the pistol and the smg (the smg is a pocket light weapon anyway, really.): range is to short, not a stand alone weapon, also SMG is just an AR with no range.
What variant of firearm do want added?
How about some type of gravity base weapon
How about a shoulder wide energy disk weapon
How about a some type of drone projectile
Look, I could sit here and put some real thought into it and come up with all kinds of bad*** ideas. But that is not the point of this thread. The point is to point out the severe lack of creativity that has gone into the weapons design for this game.
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TcuBe3
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
245
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Posted - 2013.11.19 03:05:00 -
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Last time I checked. You are not a Dev.
You have no control over the game.
This issue has clearly got you very spun up.
Why? I have no idea?
I guess ill ask you why do you play the game and spend so much time on the forums if it is such a hoorible game ? What has made you stay? Then ask yourself, if the game isn't going to be fixed to your liking why are you still insisting on complaining. You still have not offered any solutions |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
319
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Posted - 2013.11.19 03:14:00 -
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TcuBe3 wrote:Last time I checked. You are not a Dev.
You have no control over the game.
This issue has clearly got you very spun up.
Why? I have no idea?
I guess ill ask you why do you play the game and spend so much time on the forums if it is such a hoorible game ? What has made you stay? Then ask yourself, if the game isn't going to be fixed to your liking why are you still insisting on complaining. You still have not offered any solutions
Dude, I'm through talking to you. I am a paying coustomer of this of this game, an unstatified one at that, along with MANY other, whether for similar or various other reasons (and if you can't see what relevance my opinion has, I can't help you). What right do you have to come in here and try to shut me down? Rehtorical question. I'll tell you, exactly none, except for the desire to be an *** toward me. Now if you don't mind.
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
3
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Posted - 2013.11.19 03:24:00 -
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Message from Godin: You are missing the Scr's, the LR's, the PLC's, the Shotty's, the Sniper, and we also have 2 more rifles coming in about 2-3 weeks. We don't really need any more AI light weapons. |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
319
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Posted - 2013.11.19 03:27:00 -
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Roger Cordill wrote:Message from Godin: You are missing the Scr's, the LR's, the PLC's, the Shotty's, the Sniper, and we also have 2 more rifles coming in about 2-3 weeks. We don't really need any more AI light weapons.
Already ardressed all this over a cople of posts now.
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Knights of Eternal Darkness
252
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:08:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:You missed the ASCR and the already announced Combat Rifle and Rail Rifle (coming in 1.7) And you missed post #3 in this thread. ASCR, CR and the RR are AR (should be blaster rifle imo) are all AR variants though that just might be me.
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Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
193
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:14:00 -
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Don't feed the trolls guys
an easy fix to Matchmaking
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Tectonic Fusion
580
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:27:00 -
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Eh. I only am good with the AR, the ScR, the shotgun, and the Mass Driver. And I don't even have the Assault MD yet but the Scrambler Pistol and the Shotgun are underrated. Get a 480 EHP Gallente scout and a K5 Shotgun. It's awesome. The AR isn't the only effective way to kill. Headshots make the shotgun really easy to kill with, not to mention how easy it is to headshot with it.
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Knights of Eternal Darkness
252
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:29:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Don't feed the trolls guys Don't spoil the fun :|
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