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Argent Mordred
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.11.19 02:27:00 -
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Ok, we have shotguns, assault rifles (plasma and scrambler variants, with railgun and bullet variants soon to come), sniper rifles, grenade launchers, rpgs (the plasma launcher seems to fit this category, being intended to kill a heavy or able to try suppress a group somewhat,) laser rifles (which are sort of like an assault rifle but is it's own unique category of weapon, sui generis if you will,) as well as side arms like the pistol and the smg (the smg is a pocket light weapon anyway, really.)
What variant of firearm do want added? The only thing we don't have is a lmg, but the heavies have an hmg and suppression is only so useful in this game; it can be useful but a little of it goes a long way, and heavies are in search of a viable role these days. The hmg should probably be sufficient for anything that mass drivers or assault rifles can't handle. A lot of the weapons need work, but we aren't missing any major categories; we just have a lot of weapons poorly integrated into the game. |
Argent Mordred
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:31:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:@Argent Mordred
What variant of firearm do want added?
How about some type of gravity base weapon
How about a shoulder wide energy disk weapon
How about a some type of drone projectile
Look, I could sit here and put some real thought into it and come up with all kinds of bad*** ideas. But that is not the point of this thread. The point is to point out the severe lack of creativity (or productivity for that mater) that has gone into the weapons design for this game.
How would the gravity based weapon work? There is no point shoving people or objects around in this game, unless you could throw some one up so high that they died from fall damage. That also seems like it would executed in a way that is either unbalanced or limited so it is functionally pointless, being unable to do anything that couldn't be done more simply with another weapon, so that you should just use a real weapon. If it was the later then it is just a troll weapon or maybe a nifty way of chucking grenades back that could be better served by adding a to-throw-grenade-back-press-square feature.
If you mean something that uses gravity to propel a projectile, then congratulations you just reinvented the wheel; and you did it in an even more pointlessly complicated way. Come join the rest of us using railguns or firearms to chuck metallic projectiles around.
Situationally you could push someone off a roof with a gravity weapon, but that would too limited even assuming you could get up there. It's only use would be for trolling the campers who constantly tower snipe, regardless of it is tactically useful for their team that match or not; and only if you have a drop ship to get up there.
Shoulder wide? The energy disk or the weapon? So what is so special about it? Is it a rapid firing weapon? If so, then how is it different from an hmg, ar, or smg. If you can't come up with a reason, then you have just created a shiny energy weapon variant of every other automatic weapon type in game. If it is high damage, semi-auto, and close range? Then you have created a way too fancy energy weapon that is basically indistinguishable from a shotgun. High damage, semi-auto, long range? You have created a very attention getting energy weapon that is exactly like a sniper rifle. Except that screams, "my owner is right over here, guys" to the entire enemy team with a line of sight on your target every time you use it. Think like a laser rifle's beam except less subtle.
I have never played tribes, so I am not sure, but are you maybe proposing that they rip off a spinfusor?
Drone Projectile? Do you mean a projectile fired by a drone? A guided missile with a dedicate launcher of some sort? If you want to make a suggestion for a new uva vehicle like a predator drone or something go right ahead. It sounds like it might be a decent idea, but I don't have a clue what you meant by a drone projectile weapon.
If you are going to complain about lack of variety of weapon types other than variants of weapons based off real world firearms and other types of military arms, you might at least have one type or more of new weapon that you would like to see. |
Argent Mordred
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.11.21 18:48:00 -
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How can you claim they are not creative enough when you can't even give a type of weapon that is new and not functionally identical to any of the others? If you are going to complain, than at least give an example of a problem.
For example, if you could come up with a weapon type that combines two of the roles of other weapon types but that isn't either of them, and give reasons why that weapon would be uniquely useful and what trade offs would balance it, that would be workable. Right now you are complaining and can't even be bothered to offer a proposal for a new type.
For example, a designated marksman rifle would combine the high ammunition of an assault rifle and semi-auto fire with the range and accuracy/higher damage of a sniper rifle; it's trade off would be that it is weaker than a true sniper rifle and has a lower rate of fire than an assault rifle. In reality, it is probably covered (or would be overshadowed) by the tac sniper, tac ar, rail rifle, laser rifle, and scrambler rifle all of whom are long range weapons that fall in one of the two categories. But at least it is a suggestion, and something that can be debated. Currently it sounds like you are going, "Make some new weapons, I don't why they are needed or how they are supposed to be helpful; but make them, because I say so." |
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