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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4538	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:00:00 - [1] - Quote So uhhh.... I decided to waste my SP and go scouts. I am currently using advanced scouts and I want to rage quit. How do you guys function? Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Harry Bawlss NervousMoment. 8	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:01:00 - [2] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So uhhh.... I decided to waste my SP and go scouts. I am currently using advanced scouts and I want to rage quit. How do you guys function? You dont run into a group of them.
Deranged Disaster The Rainbow Effect 561	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:01:00 - [3] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: How do you guys function? They die. We chew nyan cats and spit rainbows.
Rogue Saint Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 388	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:02:00 - [4] - Quote Flank... Alcohol... Flank... Alcohol... Kill... GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦
Oswald Rehnquist 622	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:03:00 - [5] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So uhhh.... I decided to waste my SP and go scouts. I am currently using advanced scouts and I want to rage quit. How do you guys function? I highly recommend watching these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8X7qUXaqS8 about to finish uploading my second video Literally just finished uploading this, will fill description http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT8LHUCYmSk&feature=youtu.be Below 28 dB
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2242	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:04:00 - [6] - Quote Depends on the scout. Which you running. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4538	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:04:00 - [7] - Quote Harry Bawlss wrote: Cat Merc wrote: So uhhh.... I decided to waste my SP and go scouts. I am currently using advanced scouts and I want to rage quit. How do you guys function? You dont run into a group of them. I already do that. But even 1v1, I sneak up on a guy, aim, unload a few bullets, he turns around and melts my scout. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4538	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:04:00 - [8] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Depends on the scout. Which you running. Gal. Gallente for life biatch. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2242	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:06:00 - [9] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Depends on the scout. Which you running. Gal. Gallente for life biatch. Hmm you'll have to get shotty or an equally experienced armor scout then, personally I'm a Matari scout. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Oswald Rehnquist 622	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:08:00 - [10] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Depends on the scout. Which you running. Gal. Gallente for life biatch. Scan radius + a high alpha damaging weapon + dampening = an 11k fit that works decently Below 28 dB

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4538	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:10:00 - [11] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Depends on the scout. Which you running. Gal. Gallente for life biatch. Scan radius + a high alpha damaging weapon + dampening = an 11k fit that works decently ok Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Oswald Rehnquist 623	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:19:00 - [12] - Quote Essentially play it extremely safe, if you are fighting a fair fight, then something went wrong. Dragonfly BPO 2 x TT3 Standard RE BPO Dampener Advance Dampener BPO Grenade I am saving up for the Cal Scout so I don't have any points into an actual scout suit, so you can forgo dampening a little, you just need to make sure it is below 28. Below 28 dB
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2642	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:29:00 - [13] - Quote Tank a reactive plate and enhanced plate. Slap a few shield extenders on, or damage mods. Always flank from behind. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 168	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:35:00 - [14] - Quote scouts have turned into the assassins of this game so you what high burst damage weapons, SG/NK/MD/PLC/Scram pistol. you get the idea, charge scram rifle might work well at range. if you are minmatar DO NOT use your lows for tank, go for either one kincat one cardstab, or a CPU upgrade and a damper. universally I have seen minmatar scouts running extenders in the highs. scouting is a lot like playing the spy in TF2 you sneak in some where the enemy doesn't expect you drop an enemy and disappear, try to engage one on one, or when they are under by your teamates from an other direction. NEVER!! leave cover near an enemy! avoid being out of cover as much as possible, if you don't get first hit use your speed and disappear. when running away don't run in a straight line, use cover as much as possible and remember the enemy losses line of sight and they cant see you any more, use this to your advantage to get around behind them, some of the best scout out their the ones I aspire to be like, will run around the same three objects getting kill after kill, even tho they look trapped. there is this really fine line between too aggressive, and never getting a kill with a scout, I tend to fail on the aggressive side, I try to win instead of engaging intelligently, the best mentality of a scout seems to be a cold cunning slayer of men, you love to outwit and out maneuver your opponent, while staying level headed when the game is not going in your favor. Scouting is hell, its hard mode, but for the few that like it its the only fun way to play the game and thats why they keep playing scout.
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 168	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:39:00 - [15] - Quote whoops cant say for galent scout min scouts are too slow as is, but yea sneaky fit, never fight fair,
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 68	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:59:00 - [16] - Quote hgghyujh wrote: scouts have turned into the assassins of this game so you what high burst damage weapons, SG/NK/MD/PLC/Scram pistol. you get the idea, charge scram rifle might work well at range. if you are minmatar DO NOT use your lows for tank, go for either one kincat one cardstab, or a CPU upgrade and a damper. universally I have seen minmatar scouts running extenders in the highs. scouting is a lot like playing the spy in TF2 you sneak in some where the enemy doesn't expect you drop an enemy and disappear, try to engage one on one, or when they are under by your teamates from an other direction. NEVER!! leave cover near an enemy! avoid being out of cover as much as possible, if you don't get first hit use your speed and disappear. when running away don't run in a straight line, use cover as much as possible and remember the enemy losses line of sight and they cant see you any more, use this to your advantage to get around behind them, some of the best scout out their the ones I aspire to be like, will run around the same three objects getting kill after kill, even tho they look trapped. there is this really fine line between too aggressive, and never getting a kill with a scout, I tend to fail on the aggressive side, I try to win instead of engaging intelligently, the best mentality of a scout seems to be a cold cunning slayer of men, you love to outwit and out maneuver your opponent, while staying level headed when the game is not going in your favor. Scouting is hell, its hard mode, but for the few that like it its the only fun way to play the game and thats why they keep playing scout. honestly i find 1 plate and 1 complex cat to be much more effective than the stamina mod speed tanking is useless atm
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 436	Posted - 2013.11.18 11:08:00 - [17] - Quote Standard procedure when coming face to face with a mass driver is to jump 200ft into the air and scatter yourself over a wide area "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
Jackof All-Trades The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 272	Posted - 2013.11.18 11:19:00 - [18] - Quote Shotgun and scanner. Wait till someone breaks off from the main group and assassinate. Rinse and repeat. "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 168	Posted - 2013.11.18 11:35:00 - [19] - Quote mr musturd wrote: hgghyujh wrote: scouts have turned into the assassins of this game so you what high burst damage weapons, SG/NK/MD/PLC/Scram pistol. you get the idea, charge scram rifle might work well at range. if you are minmatar DO NOT use your lows for tank, go for either one kincat one cardstab, or a CPU upgrade and a damper. universally I have seen minmatar scouts running extenders in the highs. scouting is a lot like playing the spy in TF2 you sneak in some where the enemy doesn't expect you drop an enemy and disappear, try to engage one on one, or when they are under by your teamates from an other direction. NEVER!! leave cover near an enemy! avoid being out of cover as much as possible, if you don't get first hit use your speed and disappear. when running away don't run in a straight line, use cover as much as possible and remember the enemy losses line of sight and they cant see you any more, use this to your advantage to get around behind them, some of the best scout out their the ones I aspire to be like, will run around the same three objects getting kill after kill, even tho they look trapped. there is this really fine line between too aggressive, and never getting a kill with a scout, I tend to fail on the aggressive side, I try to win instead of engaging intelligently, the best mentality of a scout seems to be a cold cunning slayer of men, you love to outwit and out maneuver your opponent, while staying level headed when the game is not going in your favor. Scouting is hell, its hard mode, but for the few that like it its the only fun way to play the game and thats why they keep playing scout. honestly i find 1 plate and 1 complex cat to be much more effective than the stamina mod speed tanking is useless atm if I was gonna do that I would use a damp or a cpu extender in that slot instead if you get into armor in a minja you fail anyways. But like I said I fail aggressively and the extra stam lets me jump and run my way out of some crazy situations I mean I'm either running shooting, or reloading in that suit thats how much stam it has.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic Top Men. 302	Posted - 2013.11.18 12:06:00 - [20] - Quote Jackof All-Trades wrote: Shotgun and scanner. Wait till someone breaks off from the main group and assassinate. Rinse and repeat. You can do this but it's not as necessary as you think, with some points into passive scanning you can do the same albeit at a shorter range. Especially with the shotgun, you are already going to be at short distance. But with a scanner you are better able to tank cus you don't need the enhancer or range amplifier. I prefer remotes or nanos, though nanos can be hard to fit.

Acturus Galaxy Happy Pumpkin 183	Posted - 2013.11.18 13:26:00 - [21] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Harry Bawlss wrote: Cat Merc wrote: So uhhh.... I decided to waste my SP and go scouts. I am currently using advanced scouts and I want to rage quit. How do you guys function? You dont run into a group of them. I already do that. But even 1v1, I sneak up on a guy, aim, unload a few bullets, he turns around and melts my scout. You need to use the breach shotgun and pray it is not an armor tanked Gallente. Practice headshots with the scrambler as sidearm, and lots of jumping, preferable jump into them and hope they are not skilled enough and used to really close combat.
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 68	Posted - 2013.11.18 23:37:00 - [22] - Quote hgghyujh wrote: mr musturd wrote: hgghyujh wrote: scouts have turned into the assassins of this game so you what high burst damage weapons, SG/NK/MD/PLC/Scram pistol. you get the idea, charge scram rifle might work well at range. if you are minmatar DO NOT use your lows for tank, go for either one kincat one cardstab, or a CPU upgrade and a damper. universally I have seen minmatar scouts running extenders in the highs. scouting is a lot like playing the spy in TF2 you sneak in some where the enemy doesn't expect you drop an enemy and disappear, try to engage one on one, or when they are under by your teamates from an other direction. NEVER!! leave cover near an enemy! avoid being out of cover as much as possible, if you don't get first hit use your speed and disappear. when running away don't run in a straight line, use cover as much as possible and remember the enemy losses line of sight and they cant see you any more, use this to your advantage to get around behind them, some of the best scout out their the ones I aspire to be like, will run around the same three objects getting kill after kill, even tho they look trapped. there is this really fine line between too aggressive, and never getting a kill with a scout, I tend to fail on the aggressive side, I try to win instead of engaging intelligently, the best mentality of a scout seems to be a cold cunning slayer of men, you love to outwit and out maneuver your opponent, while staying level headed when the game is not going in your favor. Scouting is hell, its hard mode, but for the few that like it its the only fun way to play the game and thats why they keep playing scout. honestly i find 1 plate and 1 complex cat to be much more effective than the stamina mod speed tanking is useless atm if I was gonna do that I would use a damp or a cpu extender in that slot instead if you get into armor in a minja you fail anyways. But like I said I fail aggressively and the extra stam lets me jump and run my way out of some crazy situations I mean I'm either running shooting, or reloading in that suit thats how much stam it has. I disagree balancing one plate with one kinetic cat has become a very viable build for the minny I run nothing but minny scout and almost all my builds consist of either a ferro or reactive plate and complex kin kat the extra stamina use to be helpful but now you need the extra HP
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 649	Posted - 2013.11.18 23:43:00 - [23] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So uhhh.... I decided to waste my SP and go scouts. I am currently using advanced scouts and I want to rage quit. How do you guys function? Get good scrub, been running scout with a possitive k/d without using scrubby ARs since chromo. Edit This isnt ment to be serious, I just want to bust Cats metaphorical feline balls Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 649	Posted - 2013.11.18 23:50:00 - [24] - Quote >all these people saying fight one on one You guys are doing it wrong, you fight groups at a time. Sprint in and around them, back and forth, confuse the heck out of them and kill them in their panic. Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5166	Posted - 2013.11.19 00:21:00 - [25] - Quote If encountering an enemy group, attack from the rear and pick off any lone stragglers from behind. Also, keep a very close eye on your mini map if you're using range amplifiers for enhanced passive scan range. Gallente scouts have a passive scan range advantage over all other suits. Three enhanced range amps with maxed out Gallente scout skill can help me see up to 51 meters at least through any obstruction without needing any active scanners. The added bonus is that you can spot your enemy without alerting them to your presence and you can decide the terms of the engagement by knowing where they're going and which way they're facing when you do engage them. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 521	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:07:00 - [26] - Quote hey cat I run nothing but gallente scout's and hardly ever run an advanced its either g-I or gk.0 but with gallente my highs are always a complex extender so X2 should get you well over 220 shield my lows on g-I are almost always a plate and rep this should net you close to 500 hp with only a 3% penalty to speed ACTIVE SCANNER SCAN ATTEMPT FAILED
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 657	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:31:00 - [27] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Depends on the scout. Which you running. Gal. Gallente for life biatch. DJINN marauder is a better gal scout than me. GAL scout to 5 this will make it so only proto scanners can pick you up. wall hack, your base scan radius is 16m with full passive skilling you can get this up to 24m i think. use these tools to your advantage and play tight areas where you can see them coming before they can see you. also a complex sheild extender and a complex armor rep go a long way to help you kill. if that advice fails (it probably will) use the med frames as meat shields, you think I'm kidding? I assure you I'm not. the odds are somebody on the other team has a scanner and is scanning down the blueberry hord you are largely immune to the scanner and can hide in plain sight among the blueberries picking off kills. just stick to the back of the crowd. I've never been any good with a shotty so i use an AR if you need shotty advice I'm not your scout. "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout, tanker. CLOSED BETA VET
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 1758	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:33:00 - [28] - Quote Flank like it's going out of style. Your goal is to only shoot people in the back. :D Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4142	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:34:00 - [29] - Quote Well in the brief time Aero and I worked together as scouts we learnt. The Scrambler pistol is god....2x is even better. Don't fight what you can evade. Our motto was "NOT OUR WAR!" I wouldn't even bother trying to go slayer, you will have more fun wreaking havoc in the oppositions back field as a shotgunner or ambushing scout, hacking their points or assets. Scanner is good. Never scout alone....its a cold, short existence. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4142	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:35:00 - [30] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Flank like it's going out of style. Your goal is to only shoot people in the back. :D Or in the head. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"

Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 1758	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:36:00 - [31] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Flank like it's going out of style. Your goal is to only shoot people in the back. :D Or in the head. Both work. :D Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1548	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:37:00 - [32] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So uhhh.... I decided to waste my SP and go scouts. I am currently using advanced scouts and I want to rage quit. How do you guys function? I dumped my SP into Tanks. htfu :D ö/\ö :D
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4142	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:38:00 - [33] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: So uhhh.... I decided to waste my SP and go scouts. I am currently using advanced scouts and I want to rage quit. How do you guys function? I dumped my SP into Tanks. htfu :D Tanks are epic when you get them working. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4142	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:39:00 - [34] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: True Adamance wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Flank like it's going out of style. Your goal is to only shoot people in the back. :D Or in the head. Both work. :D That they do....and make you feel like and epic badass.....especially if you pull an AC style building jump to get your kills. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1865	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:41:00 - [35] - Quote When I run scout it's usually a Minmatar M/1 dampened below 28 dB with an assault SMG and Flaylock. I carry either a scanner or uplinks depending on intent. I can tear up heavies but brick tanked logistics are a problem. Generally I work the fringes, hack things, then kill anybody that comes to hack back. AKA: Rees Noturana https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1789	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:44:00 - [36] - Quote With passive... use the directional info to follow someone (with no friends) on their way to something... and murder them from behind.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1548	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:46:00 - [37] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Tanks are epic when you get them working. Yep, I've had some pretty fun games with them, but the RoF bonus was a little much IMO.....that means that Swarms are getting nerfed after they got buffed. CCP could have kept the RoF and just applied the range nerf, although relaxed a little, to at least 225 Meters... Future Damage < Current Damage Future Range < Current Range Current RoF > Past RoF See an imbalance? If this is confusing, contradicting, or just plain stupid, I am pretty tired. ö/\ö :D
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 722	Posted - 2013.11.19 02:06:00 - [38] - Quote There is a lot of solid advice in this thread, for me the biggest thing to keep in mind as a scout is my job isn't to actually kill clones. It's to shape the flow of battle; or turn it's tide with my uplinks. It's to keep objectives locked down. To infiltrate behind enemy lines.... distract the enemy from a strong push by taking their back letter, etc., etc.... that's just how I do it though. There are plenty of good scouts who focus on just putting down clones. But for sure pick your fights, don't just wade in and hope for the best. Don't shoot until you are in optimal position (flanked or behind opponent), stalk your prey if needed instead of firing from a sub-optimal range, lure them to come after you into a waiting grenade or remote explosive.... Most scouts have the best luck with high alpha weapons, and I find as a Gallente half of my fits have shield extenders in the high (I run the basic gallente scout suit) and the other half have precision enhancers, because more and more medium frames are running dampeners. There is no shame in retreating, as well - especially when alone!
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 657	Posted - 2013.11.19 02:20:00 - [39] - Quote scout lesson 2 when faced with three unaware enemies take out the targets of least importance first. IE MLT,STD,PRO are all caught off guard. you have one kills time before the realize you exist. option A: take out the proto while the most valuable target and the most deadly once you chew thourhg his armor the other 2 are shooting you and you die. option B: start with the MLT he is a scrub, but he has a gun, .5 seconds later he is dead, you are halfway through the STD by the time they know what is going on, the STD is dead, you are now left 1v1 with a proto suit, A hard but not impossible fight. use terrain you are a gallente scout walls railings and buildings are your new armor never get out of shields. "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout, tanker. CLOSED BETA VET
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1549	Posted - 2013.11.19 02:22:00 - [40] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: scout lesson 2 when faced with three unaware enemies take out the targets of least importance first. IE MLT,STD,PRO are all caught off guard. you have one kills time before the realize you exist. option A: take out the proto while the most valuable target and the most deadly once you chew thourhg his armor the other 2 are shooting you and you die. option B: start with the MLT he is a scrub, but he has a gun, .5 seconds later he is dead, you are halfway through the STD by the time they know what is going on, the STD is dead, you are now left 1v1 with a proto suit, A hard but not impossible fight. use terrain you are a gallente scout walls railings and buildings are your new armor never get out of shields. *Assuming you use Assault Rifles, which kill faster than Shotguns.... ö/\ö :D

Jackof All-Trades The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 276	Posted - 2013.11.19 05:02:00 - [41] - Quote Galvan Nized wrote: Jackof All-Trades wrote: Shotgun and scanner. Wait till someone breaks off from the main group and assassinate. Rinse and repeat. You can do this but it's not as necessary as you think, with some points into passive scanning you can do the same albeit at a shorter range. Especially with the shotgun, you are already going to be at short distance. But with a scanner you are better able to tank cus you don't need the enhancer or range amplifier. I prefer remotes or nanos, though nanos can be hard to fit. I use minmatar scout mainly - and those have extremely low health. Full shield extenders bring you to 343 with upgrades, and that's barely enough to tank someone as you flee. Low slots are kin cats. I prefer the scanner "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
Tectonic Fusion 587	Posted - 2013.11.19 05:10:00 - [42] - Quote I haven't put any skill into it, but I do use a dragonfly scout. It's a 483 EHP scout with a K5 and a toxin. It's great for flanking, and works good in close quarter maps where you can hide and pop out. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Sleepy Zan Xer Cloud Consortium 2845	Posted - 2013.11.19 05:34:00 - [43] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So uhhh.... I decided to waste my SP and go scouts. I am currently using advanced scouts and I want to rage quit. How do you guys function? Get some sunglasses, you will be walking into the light a lot Quick, no, hard... I got all your scopes here ... and for a limited time only you can receive the 360 edition!
Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 500	Posted - 2013.11.19 05:35:00 - [44] - Quote Lol dedicated scouts. you're all doing it wrong.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 525	Posted - 2013.11.19 05:36:00 - [45] - Quote Zekain K wrote: Lol dedicated scouts. you're all doing it wrong. I will shlt all over your part time scout SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
Aria Gomes Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 128	Posted - 2013.11.19 05:54:00 - [46] - Quote I've been using the militia basic light frame Minmatar scout and I run two different fits: 1 reactive plate 2 enhanced shield extenders Scrambler Rifle Scrambler Pistol 1 enhanced cardiac regulator 2 enhanced shield extenders Shotgun Scrambler Pistol I use the former suit more because I hate CQC, but if I needed to use the Shotgun I'd use it.
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS 778	Posted - 2013.11.19 06:56:00 - [47] - Quote Use dampeners, range amps, some plates, some shield ext. red biotic for quick burst of speed. the plates will save you most of the time. damage mods. It's not hard to be a scout. The more you play as 1 the more you'll learn. Anything in specific you need help with? USE the scout g-1. it is better then adv. Have several fits to try, one for running fast. one for assault with armor plates and reps. 1 with a damp and range. 1 with hacking and damp. It's all about the low slots. I'm a pro gal. Greatest benefit is the damp. and range. Can't forget about REs to lay traps. A great challenge you can try is hacking enemy's home point and guard it from WAVES of reds. Bring UL so you can come back again or get an RE and blow them all to ez mode hell. As a scout you have to turn tail from everyone i.e. noobs, mlt gear, protos. It's all about making them look stupid.
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS 778	Posted - 2013.11.19 07:02:00 - [48] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: >all these people saying fight one on one You guys are doing it wrong, you fight groups at a time. Sprint in and around them, back and forth, confuse the heck out of them and kill them in their panic. I like this myself. The red and ferroscale mods can be a great combo for this. You run in quick, jumping and strafing and cause chaos! Kill one here, injure one there and either escape or die. By that time the blues will come in and see them trying to shoot the scout with ARs. CAT also try this. SG and knives can work the best for this. This isn't a scout anymore, it is a doombringer!! Oh yeah. Don't be afraid to die.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4154	Posted - 2013.11.19 07:25:00 - [49] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Tanks are epic when you get them working. Yep, I've had some pretty fun games with them, but the RoF bonus was a little much IMO.....that means that Swarms are getting nerfed after they got buffed. CCP could have kept the RoF and just applied the range nerf, although relaxed a little, to at least 225 Meters... Future Damage < Current Damage Future Range < Current Range Current RoF > Past RoF See an imbalance? If this is confusing, contradicting, or just plain stupid, I am pretty tired. Doesn't matter to me anymore this game is so bad and broken I have no desire to play it. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 235	Posted - 2013.11.19 07:39:00 - [50] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Patrick57 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Tanks are epic when you get them working. Yep, I've had some pretty fun games with them, but the RoF bonus was a little much IMO.....that means that Swarms are getting nerfed after they got buffed. CCP could have kept the RoF and just applied the range nerf, although relaxed a little, to at least 225 Meters... Future Damage < Current Damage Future Range < Current Range Current RoF > Past RoF See an imbalance? If this is confusing, contradicting, or just plain stupid, I am pretty tired. Doesn't matter to me anymore this game is so bad and broken I have no desire to play it. Ever taken a newberry and told them to gun in an Lav? God its fun. Ever taken a newberry and said 'nab a mlt scout and play shotty alongside me?' I haven't but i will tomorrow. -Newly proclaimed Lazor riffle specialist- "You said yourself fantastically 'congratulations you are all alone.'"

knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 63	Posted - 2013.11.19 07:44:00 - [51] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So uhhh.... I decided to waste my SP and go scouts. I am currently using advanced scouts and I want to rage quit. How do you guys function? generally when I scout I use both matari and Gallente scout I always stay away from my team and always have a active scanner with a shotgun when im matari It depends, my fun fit is a nova knife and flaylock with scanners and KIN. CATS. and Card. Reg. always try to stay behind the enemy, and hide if he suspects someone to be around him if he is alone and you will kill your prey(like batman lol) when im Gallente I use shotty and flaylocks or smg's but like I said I always have scanners, but I act diff. in gall scout. I use on Kat for a slight speed buff, I hunt enemies on my own, avoid sticking around teammates, willing to run around the entire map just to flank enemy (same for matari scout) when I engage targets I use jumping tactics and running in circles if im up close and S-formation if im at a distance. if im fighting multiple targets I always go for the weakers one for they are usually more dangerous than a heavy, unless heavy is stupid and doesn't know im there. basically in my gall suit im an aggressive (frontline) assassin, but when im Matari scout im a master of stealth and patients and am willing to follow a target for as long as I want as long as he is alone or in a small group.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 227	Posted - 2013.11.19 08:53:00 - [52] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Depends on the scout. Which you running. Gal. Gallente for life biatch. Scan radius + a high alpha damaging weapon + dampening = an 11k fit that works decently our dampening beaten to death by advanced/proto scanners and even if you beat a scanner the user gets a notification that you are there the only thing you can hide is your excat position on the minimap and thats it for stealth in this game. Even though the SG hit detection gets better you rely on OHKs because if you don't kill your opponent in one shot your are dead unless you encounter someone without a clue. Scouts are fun but they desperately need a role on the battlefield right now they are fun but not needed.
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 754	Posted - 2013.11.19 09:35:00 - [53] - Quote Just wait until you get into a match where all your opponents are noobs and they have terrible lag... then it'll be no problem, and you can pretend to be good like all the other Scouts.
Jeanne D'Arc IV Astroya Guard 0	Posted - 2013.11.19 14:38:00 - [54] - Quote Zekain K wrote: Lol dedicated scouts. you're all doing it wrong. Best player i ever seen so far!
Everything Dies Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 227	Posted - 2013.11.19 15:24:00 - [55] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So uhhh.... I decided to waste my SP and go scouts. I am currently using advanced scouts and I want to rage quit. How do you guys function? Advanced Gallente scout suit with two basic profile dampeners = you'll be scanned maybe once every ten FW matches. Slap on a shotgun and use REs as a defensive assassin to protect nodes. If you're lucky, there'll be a supply depot nearby--I have three versions of the scout suit, one with REs (for actual combat) one with compact nanohives (if I need the armor repair, or if the trek to the SD is too far) and my default suit, which has an uplink for making that initial push at the start of the game. Then it's a game of hide-and-go-seek. Let the enemy make their way towards a node/installation/etc. and dash in behind them before unloading one or two shotgun blasts (unless it's a heavy, in which case you'll want to use your REs.) Life is killing me.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1479	Posted - 2013.11.19 15:38:00 - [56] - Quote There are a few fits that work quite well. A few people pointed out that shotguns are not scaling too well with the ehp increase we've seen in the past month or so. So if you do plan on you using a shotgun/scanner combo consider a complex dmg mod. I like using this fit: STD shotgun/K-5 M209 assault smg M1/C-7 flux Complex shield extender Complex/enanced shield extender Basic Reactive plate or basic/enhanced repper Enhanced/complex cardio mod or kincat Quantem scanner You can swap out the shield extenders for dmg mods but personally I don't think that's the way a shotgun is meant to be used. Best tactic when with a squad is scan and flank, circle around red dots and only engage if you know you can fight and run or eliminate everyone in the area. Otherwise, you most likely won't survive in your suit for long. That 380-400 ehp isn't going to last long, but if you can escape your shields will kick in after 4 secs allowing you to stealth engage again. The basic reactive plate/repper isn't meant to keep you alive in combat it's meant to being you back it after a redberry turned around for no reason and started blasting you. Without a squad it's about the same, but you probably won't have bluebies distracting the enemy all the time so you can sneak in.
Onesimus Tarsus Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 683	Posted - 2013.11.19 15:43:00 - [57] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: There is a lot of solid advice in this thread, for me the biggest thing to keep in mind as a scout is my job isn't to actually kill clones. It's to shape the flow of battle; or turn it's tide with my uplinks. It's to keep objectives locked down. To infiltrate behind enemy lines.... distract the enemy from a strong push by taking their back letter, etc., etc.... that's just how I do it though. There are plenty of good scouts who focus on just putting down clones. But for sure pick your fights, don't just wade in and hope for the best. Don't shoot until you are in optimal position (flanked or behind opponent), stalk your prey if needed instead of firing from a sub-optimal range, lure them to come after you into a waiting grenade or remote explosive.... Most scouts have the best luck with high alpha weapons, and I find as a Gallente half of my fits have shield extenders in the high (I run the basic gallente scout suit) and the other half have precision enhancers, because more and more medium frames are running dampeners. There is no shame in retreating, as well - especially when alone! Plus 40
Ridire Greine 1	Posted - 2013.11.19 15:50:00 - [58] - Quote GLU-5 TAC + Scout Suit = (This is with a roughly 350 eHP Minmatar Scout) Was posting +20/0s with it yesterday. The important thing is knowing the limit of the TAC, try to keep them at a distance, if they get up close, cook a grenade, and finish them with the TAC (Blindfire) or your sidearm, which in my case was the M512-A You're a noob, and so am I!
Koan Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 31	Posted - 2013.11.19 17:40:00 - [59] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: Flank... Alcohol... Flank... Alcohol... Kill... Sounds about right! Work the flanks, have a drink, carry a weapon that can be humorous to get kills with. (Like my plasma cannon) Eventually you get used to the short combat lifespan and learn to maneuver so you get hit less and extend that lifespan. Im actually a fairly effective scout for what im running. Basic suit with advanced modules, basic cannon and advanced pistol. Go positive pretty much every game and usually get a little over 1k warpoints. Carry equipment that is good to have for battlefield shifting like uplinks. I start the game with a scout with two enhanced codebreakers and then swap into my cannon scout after hacking the first objectives. Scout gameplay is very situation and you always have to be aware of whats going on, even the things you cant see. Use that new buffed scan radius of yours and put some points into profile dampening so you dont get seen as much yourself. Two in the head boss? Two in the head...
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1570	Posted - 2013.11.19 18:07:00 - [60] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So uhhh.... I decided to waste my SP and go scouts. I am currently using advanced scouts and I want to rage quit. How do you guys function? Join Learning Coalition chat and ask the R 0 N 1 N guys. Oh, and sorry about calling one of your recent posts in an HMG thread GÇ£complete Bull ****GÇ¥. Turns out that you were 100% right, and my understanding of what the problem with the HMG was, was completely off base.



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